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[04:20] techrights-sec[2] Sometime, can you add a domain name for tr-new (204.197.160.3) ?

[04:20] techrights-sec[2] I figure it is time to start looking at adding the prerequisite services

[04:20] techrights-sec[2] to it HTTP+TLS, Gemini, etc

[04:21] schestowitz-TR2 at the moment "ipfs" domain is linked to that, but can add more

[04:42] techrights-sec[2] Any placeholder name will do

[04:54] schestowitz-TR2 there is now "news", but wait for dns to propagate a little

● Oct 24

[05:16] techrights-sec[2] thanks

[05:16] techrights-sec[2] Placeholder in place

[05:47] schestowitz-TR2 nice, that was fast

[05:47] techrights-sec[2] np

[05:47] techrights-sec[2] now the 'rest' can be added more leisurely between now and Feb.

[05:49] schestowitz-TR2 did not sleep too well, oversplent too, thinking how to best approach the epo and upc thing

[05:49] schestowitz-TR2 I'm still not sure, but now it's monday so there should be many comments

[05:49] schestowitz-TR2 I will try to place all emphasis on the comments, without giving platform to the lies

[05:49] schestowitz-TR2 later on ota, maybe soon

[05:58] schestowitz-TR2 "A wiki that few people have seen but I occasionally use for private projects; Gopher and Gemini, because I despise the web and like toying with alternatives." https://ageinghacker.net/blog/posts/32/

[05:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ageinghacker.net | SMTP, OrangeWebsite and using your own computing resources 2022-10-24 00:35

[05:58] schestowitz-TR2 via Planet GNU hours ago

[05:59] schestowitz-TR2 re MIT 'Reviews', I was expectedly annoyed by that, he probably paid to run those 3 URLs

● Oct 24

[06:00] schestowitz-TR2 anyway, I'll OTA after I post Daily Links

[06:00] techrights-sec[2] ack

[06:00] techrights-sec[2] Likelt

[06:00] techrights-sec[2] ack

[06:01] schestowitz-TR2 Graveley uses the same strategy

[06:01] schestowitz-TR2 when you're as guilty as hell all you can try is help people "forget"

[06:01] schestowitz-TR2 Nat Friedman knows we know what he did last summer

[06:02] techrights-sec[2] The MIT posts sure look like paid shill pieces

[06:02] techrights-sec[2] The corruption has probably gotten worse since the Epstein

[06:02] schestowitz-TR2 I am sure it's paid for

[06:02] techrights-sec[2] The corruption has probably gotten worse since the Epstein and Ito scandals

[06:02] techrights-sec[2] Yes it is quite clearly paid for but the hard part is digging up or acquiring

[06:02] techrights-sec[2] proper evidence of that.

[06:04] schestowitz-TR2 RMS gives a talk tomorrow, but I don't know the URL if any

[06:04] schestowitz-TR2 I posted their intro/promotional video of it

[06:04] schestowitz-TR2 if we let them shoot the man, then they shoot the concepts/ideas

[06:04] schestowitz-TR2 brb 20 mins, Daily Links

[06:04] techrights-sec[2] revisionism : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_Media_Lab

[06:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | MIT Media Lab - Wikipedia

[06:06] schestowitz-TR2 wikipedia is almost 20

[06:06] schestowitz-TR2 it won't last so long

[06:06] schestowitz-TR2 it's failing to guard itself

[06:06] schestowitz-TR2 i think it turned 20

[06:06] schestowitz-TR2 either way, it was not good 10 years agoi

[06:06] schestowitz-TR2 but got worse, not better

[06:06] schestowitz-TR2 it's optimised for politics and PR

[06:06] schestowitz-TR2 not accuracy

[06:07] techrights-sec[2] It's more than 20 years old, there was some turnover about 20 years go though

[06:07] techrights-sec[2] and major changes. That might have been when they turned to corporate money

[06:07] techrights-sec[2] and abandoned proper research apparently in favor of product development.

[06:42] schestowitz-TR2 a) about to delete what's left temporarily of gulag'

[06:42] schestowitz-TR2 b) gulag nose downtime this past week

[06:42] schestowitz-TR2 c) spying re-added

[06:42] schestowitz-TR2 d) almost nothing shows up in recent days

[06:42] schestowitz-TR2 some time this week I will delete it ("linux")

[06:42] schestowitz-TR2 searx.be is mostly ok for search

[06:42] schestowitz-TR2 OTA

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[08:05] schestowitz-TR2 done, 50-min video

[08:05] schestowitz-TR2 showing only the comments

[08:05] schestowitz-TR2 we should contact breyer from german PP

[08:05] schestowitz-TR2 he can raise the subject again

[08:05] schestowitz-TR2 he already confronts breton over UPC

[08:05] schestowitz-TR2 do you have contacts with him? I just know his blog (rss)

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[08:13] techrights-sec[2] I was just thinking about Breyer but have no address for him or other means

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] to contact him, and am furthermore outside of his geographic area. The reason

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] though that I was thinking was that some countries have very, very strictly

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] enforced laws prohibiting registers of ethnicity, with the goal to prevent

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] another round of the genocide that went on in WWII. However, Facebook has

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] thousands of datapoints with specificially identify religion, ethnicity,

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] political leanings and other explicitly prohibited factors. Furthermore,

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] they have the ability to further aggregate and synthesize such information.

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] So along those lines maybe Schrems would know who to contact.

[08:13] schestowitz-TR2 FB can be paid to change people's leanings (CA scandal)

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] The EFF,

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] if it weren't so busy rolling over, would also be one to contat. Yes, that

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] is why FB is tolerated, I would guess.

[08:13] techrights-sec[2] https://www.patrick-breyer.de/zur-person/

[08:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.patrick-breyer.de | Zur Person / Kontakt Patrick Breyer

[08:14] schestowitz-TR2 it's safe to assume he read TR

[08:14] schestowitz-TR2 I will contact him some time later

[08:14] schestowitz-TR2 he also opposes swpats

[08:15] techrights-sec[2] https://schre.ms/?page_id=29

[08:15] techrights-sec[2] https://noyb.eu/en/contact

[08:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Contact | Max Schrems | schre.ms | Max Schrems

[08:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Contact | noyb.eu

[08:44] techrights-sec[2] So there may be laws on the books in several countries prohibiting what FB does

[08:44] techrights-sec[2] if they can be enforced, but FB and M$ seem excempt from any and all laws,

[08:44] techrights-sec[2] regulations, and guidelines.

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● Oct 24

[09:47] schestowitz-TR2 draft

[09:47] schestowitz-TR2 (you should contact your mep, I will contact breye as a german)

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] yes

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] The first paragraph should (yet again) mention that the UPC is invalid/illegal/ddefunct

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] It's implied in the one sentence but could be stated clearly just to be sure.

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] The European Patent Contention did improve things, and it should be stated

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] (yet again) for emphasis what it prohibits (hint sw patents). Yes, that can

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] risk being repetitive but the aspects can vary each time and it is very

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] important that the posts kind of be able to stand on their own.

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] The paragraph "All three havent been active..." could be merged with the one

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] preceding it.

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] "EPO" has a link but the acronym should be expanded in the text itself once.

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] Is the UPC in crisis or causing a constitutional crisis. The former is not

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] important, the latter is very bad.

[09:50] techrights-sec[2] Some context on who Grabinksi is and how he relates to the topic in the post.

[09:51] schestowitz-TR2 gym, biab

[09:51] schestowitz-TR2 still encoding

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● Oct 24

[12:00] schestowitz-TR2 "Dropping out of the fediverse" https://www.linuxuserspace.show/309

[12:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxuserspace.show | Linux User Space: Episode 3:09: The Pico-Sized History of Nano

[12:08] techrights-sec[2] ack

[12:08] schestowitz-TR2 I hope for more of this

[12:08] schestowitz-TR2 it would lessen time-wasting

[12:25] techrights-sec[2] biab

[12:38] schestowitz-TR2 i cannot find the email of breyer in his web page

[12:38] schestowitz-TR2 I'm sure he know TR's work

[12:38] schestowitz-TR2 and want to speak to him on telephone

[12:38] schestowitz-TR2 schrems is another issue altogether, the outsoucing of epo to microsoft

[12:39] techrights-sec[2] checking

[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 see email

[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 I wrote it in a rush, it's not as important as what follows, if anything...

[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 we need to remind more people to contact MEPs

[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 I might prepare a template later, in order for others to raise a stink

[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 right now I want to get on top of links, as I'm back to work tonight

[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 Free software and the media are in a crazy state, and I think it's TR's cup of tea

[12:51] techrights-sec[2] ack

[12:51] techrights-sec[2] It was worded a little rushed but perhaps that is ok

[12:51] techrights-sec[2] Among other things the salutation and honorifics were missing, but more context

[12:51] techrights-sec[2] about the 1000's of hours of writing might have helped.

[12:51] techrights-sec[2] Good luck, I hope the message gets through and that there is a useful response

[12:55] schestowitz-TR2 I'm sure he read TR before and knows what I wrote

[12:55] schestowitz-TR2 as for the UK, it's not relevant to the UPC

[12:55] schestowitz-TR2 I met some politicians here who stumbled upon TR

[12:55] schestowitz-TR2 one was deupty PM, IIRC

[12:56] schestowitz-TR2 so you generally see that, despite us being so small, the hard work has impact

[12:56] schestowitz-TR2 I need to post the copyright troll's letters around xmas

[12:56] schestowitz-TR2 and use other means of deterreance against MSFT, Friedman, and Graveley

[12:56] schestowitz-TR2 don't expect shitholes like 'hacker' 'noise' and reddit to help this gain visibility

[12:56] schestowitz-TR2 they already have us labeled as "enemies" of... their paymasters, I suppose

[12:56] schestowitz-TR2 but beter labeled than DEPLATFORMED

[12:56] techrights-sec[2] ack

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 side point

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 1) john campbell's videos are becoming ridiculous because of the 'paranoia' of gulag censoring the channel

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 2) I don't need to waste 5 mins of each video going through guidelines or removing words or flattering gulag's

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 glorious guidelines

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 3) today when doing exercise with indivious we noticed the track kept getting muted when there was music

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 4) exercise channels with no voice are useless

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 5) gulag used to "label" copyright stuff (based on signatures of sound being matched)

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 I think they start to "act"

[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 and they ruined this exercise video with 38+ million views

● Oct 24

[13:00] schestowitz-TR2 your [topic] suggestion re gulag and meial was good, but I don't yet know the topic well enough to say

[13:00] schestowitz-TR2 something insightful

[13:00] schestowitz-TR2 this is related to what they do in other protocols

[13:00] schestowitz-TR2 /smeial/email/.

[13:27] schestowitz-TR2 opensourcecom-sellout.webm

[13:27] schestowitz-TR2 /kristall-techrights.webm

[13:28] schestowitz-TR2 testing upstream speeds, despite gemini being poor at that file size, as the speed is the main advantage over sel

[13:28] schestowitz-TR2 f-hosting from home. kirstall and lagrange download the files (6.9mg, 67mb) correctly

[13:31] schestowitz-TR2 v

[13:32] schestowitz-TR2 https://nitter.it/AfroLeadership_/status/1583957854461259776#m

[13:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-AfroLeadership: Governance, Data & Right in Africa (@AfroLeadership_): "We all have to care about #AI. We will be impacted about#AI. #techrights #techethics #AIEthics"|nitter.it

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 Azure has just had more layoffs

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 senile BB is trying to appease the lobbyists

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 that's expected

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 a criminal syndicate does not slow down when cornered or threatened

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 anyway, clown computing was all along a scam

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 and expensive when they try to swing into profitability

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 now the spainners in thelayoffs spalining why layoffs are a GOOD thing

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 and then someone says, but this is 4th time in 6 months

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 I've just tested large and smalled webm files with 6 or 7 clients, inc. amfora

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 the ones that don't cope are beta versions

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 the sole advantage (atm) of the second gemini server is the DC-grade connection

[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 passing files from ole tr to new-tr is like 1gb/sec

[13:50] techrights-sec[2] ack

[13:50] techrights-sec[2] I doubt solderpunk will fix the specification to repair the bug when handling

[13:50] techrights-sec[2] large files.

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 even if only TEMPORARILY done, we would be the first capsule to offer a large, extensive set of large

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 videos over gemini://

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 maybe aliad/subdomain *alias

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 "media" or similar

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 some gemini servers we used deal ok with multiple domains for the certs

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 certainly the one drew default made

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 so we can access news.tuxmachines.org and gemini.tuxmachines.org

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 i could copy across the webm files, then run a bash script to make an index

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 it would also make copies of the video files as 'backups' (yes, ame device, I know)

[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 *same

[13:57] techrights-sec[2] ack

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[14:13] schestowitz-TR2 are you ok if I go for it?

[14:13] schestowitz-TR2 same url struct

[14:13] schestowitz-TR2 i.e.

[14:13] schestowitz-TR2 gemini-base-domain/videos/[video path]

[14:13] schestowitz-TR2 I mean, not going live

[14:13] schestowitz-TR2 rather, using (like with ipfs) the machine for backup

[14:13] schestowitz-TR2 ok, best that way, yes

[14:13] schestowitz-TR2 I thought linkage of files rather of duplication would be most suitable

[14:14] techrights-sec[2] ok with what? I'm out if the tr-new is put into production prior to janaryD

[14:14] techrights-sec[2] in any form

[14:14] techrights-sec[2] Best to wait, I would think. There are more elegant options.

[14:14] techrights-sec[2] Thinking about the work flow for the posting, I'm thinking that only the date

[14:14] techrights-sec[2] field (in the form of an integer repesenting the epoch) is the way to go and

[14:14] techrights-sec[2] that if the date is in the future, that particular post remains unpublished

[14:14] techrights-sec[2] but then an 'at' job gets launched either manually or automatically to run

[14:14] techrights-sec[2] at the designated time.

[14:16] schestowitz-TR2 version control on a live server (like wordpress and drupal with extensions) is a waste of DB space, imho

[14:16] schestowitz-TR2 I reckon more than half of the wordpress DB is prior revisions of the posts

[14:16] schestowitz-TR2 wordpress is becoming to www what MS Office became to laptops and desktops

[14:16] schestowitz-TR2 to the point many people opted out and chose worse: clown and "apps"

[14:17] techrights-sec[2] That would allow for pre-loading posts to appear

[14:17] techrights-sec[2] later. It would not be version control just a postponement of publication

[14:17] techrights-sec[2] If changes are needed, then the post would have to be deleted and a new one

[14:17] techrights-sec[2] created it its place. WordPress is bloated in and of itself but the version

[14:17] techrights-sec[2] control causes the data space to grow at least arithmetically.

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 I think we ought to revisit the publication 'style' in general, seeing that many effective posts

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 can be short but higher in volume

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 not "tweets" but rather rapid updates

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 and some are more or less a template

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 like the irc posts

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 you could almost generate them based on some variables and save a lot of space

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 we don't have any head deadlines or "costs" to "manage", which means less stress

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 (our stupid stupid company still blows like $1000 a month on a few shitty VMs nobody uses 99% of the time

[14:21] schestowitz-TR2 that's because of dumb colleagues)

[14:35] techrights-sec[2] Ok it would make sense to review and possibly revise the work flow.

[14:35] techrights-sec[2] What relative to the new TM work flow could be improved?

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[15:03] schestowitz-TR2 not too sure yet, maybe too early to think of the specifics

[15:03] schestowitz-TR2 but the way TM works is good for short posts

[15:03] techrights-sec[2] It also needs to work with automated updates like for IRC logs.

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[17:17] techrights-sec[2] Maybe once the TR site is rebuilt, the search engines might restore it to

[17:17] techrights-sec[2] their indexes.

[17:43] schestowitz-TR2 we always had the occasional trolls

[17:43] schestowitz-TR2 it was a lot worse around 2009

[17:43] schestowitz-TR2 btw, several sites I follow sold out this week

[17:43] schestowitz-TR2 it's like spamfarms

[17:43] schestowitz-TR2 I shed no tear, I'll delete them if it persists for a few more days

[17:43] schestowitz-TR2 www is not the future

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[17:58] schestowitz-TR2 wait, better yet, I'll take screenshot and call them out if that persists

[17:58] schestowitz-TR2 like we did for weeks when GoogleNoise deteriorated

[17:58] techrights-sec[2] What was the gist of this one?

[17:58] techrights-sec[2] gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/24/india-continues-replacing-windows/

[17:58] techrights-sec[2] A bit can be inferred from the URL but not the body text. RMS is speaking?

[17:59] schestowitz-TR2 yes, two posts mentioned today's (latert today) talk in india

● Oct 24

[18:25] schestowitz-TR2 draft

[18:25] schestowitz-TR2 I think I capstured this in a way that's intuitive

[18:25] schestowitz-TR2 what I mean by "short posts"

[18:25] schestowitz-TR2 easier to manage with TM-style cms

[18:25] techrights-sec[2] checking

[18:25] techrights-sec[2] Can something be added to the summary to describe the phenomenon observed or to

[18:25] techrights-sec[2] back up the assertion made? Remember, GemText is text-only.

[18:26] schestowitz-TR2 I added a couple of lines at the top to summarise what the image shows

[18:35] techrights-sec[2] thanks

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[23:41] schestowitz-TR2 https://nitter.it/CamperMotorhome/status/1584581785026953216#m

[23:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Gavin (@CamperMotorhome): "Links 22/09/2022: GNOME Builder 43.0 and Hype Over Ubuntu Wallpaperhttp://techrights.org/2022/09/22/gnome-builder-43-0/Credit@Dr. Roy Schestowitz"|nitter.it

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