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[05:40] schestowitz-TR 2022.47 Migratory - Rakudo Weekly News https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/11/21/2022-47-migratory/ "FreeNode fiasco comes to mind, and now Twitter appears to be going the same direction. So it was a good opportunity to start an official channel for the Raku Programming Language on Mastodon"

[05:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rakudoweekly.blog | 2022.47 Migratory Rakudo Weekly News

[05:40] schestowitz-TR Sourav Rudra knows it's NOT FOSS and he even admits it ("It isn't open-source but works quite well."), so what does the site ItsFOSS st

[05:40] schestowitz-TR and for? https://news.itsfoss.com/vmware-workstation-17-release/

[05:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.itsfoss.com | VMware Workstation 17 Series Releases; Adds New Linux Guest OS

[05:50] schestowitz-TR :-)

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● Nov 22

[07:12] schestowitz-TR 'foss'todon = bank pages in falkon with JS on ;-)

[07:12] schestowitz-TR *blank

[07:42] Techrightssec Yes, the support of FOSS and standards is not even lip service there.

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[08:59] Techrightssec Apparently COP27 did not even raise the question of overpopulation even once.

● Nov 22

[09:00] schestowitz-TR 1. create a panel to discuss prolem x

[09:00] schestowitz-TR 2. invite those causing x

[09:00] schestowitz-TR 3. discuss no actual solution

[09:00] schestowitz-TR 4. brag about the discussion

[09:00] schestowitz-TR ...

[09:00] schestowitz-TR x. profit

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[09:17] Techrightssec Sounds also like Nokia and the fraudulent attempt at the Unified Patent Court.

[09:17] Techrightssec They're unwilling to admit how badly they got screwed by their own board an

[09:17] Techrightssec d Microsoft's Elop.

[09:17] Techrightssec The only politicians that seem aware of the situation in any country also seem

[09:17] Techrightssec to be corrupt or seem under conflict of interests. Definitely a major threat

[09:17] Techrightssec to not just technological advancement but even general purpose computing.

[09:17] Techrightssec They don't make general purpose computers so as an American company they are

[09:17] Techrightssec not affected. Furthermore, the more trouble they cause in Europe the more

[09:17] Techrightssec advantage they have in the international market. So there are a lot of

[09:17] Techrightssec perverse incentives involved.

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[09:46] Techrightssec ack

● Nov 22

[10:30] schestowitz-TR weird

[10:30] schestowitz-TR I swear I opened the SN link and it gave me 404

[10:30] schestowitz-TR maybe twice even

[10:30] schestowitz-TR after it had also taken a long time for the bot to get a response from it

[10:30] schestowitz-TR and now it works... twice in a row

[10:30] schestowitz-TR suggests (i think) some trouble at the back end, maybe OH cluster

[10:30] schestowitz-TR *HA

[10:30] schestowitz-TR high-avail

[10:36] schestowitz-TR wow, the SN story is quite sad

[10:36] schestowitz-TR and they cannot get ircd back up and running

[10:36] schestowitz-TR btw, i heard yesterday from someone who knows someone in MSFT that the expense cuts are very noticeable

[10:36] schestowitz-TR this means Microsoft will think twice or thrice about stuff like extra astrotturfing

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[10:52] Techrightssec ack

[10:52] Techrightssec

[10:52] Techrightssec Yes, there will be an unavoidable long tail, but the world will benefit from

[10:52] Techrightssec a sudden drop in M$ astroturfers once their budget is cut enough.

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● Nov 22

[11:01] schestowitz-TR thanks for buynothing urls

[11:01] schestowitz-TR i did not forget to work on that

[11:01] schestowitz-TR de and nl links are good too

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[11:10] schestowitz-TR James Zemlin: Sheela Microsoft controls me. Microsoft-funded Sheela does not listen to anything I have to say: (new talk) http://techrights.org/2022/11/16/jim-ftx-zemlin/

[11:10] schestowitz-TR techrights.org | Jim FTX Zemlin: My Wife Who is a Successful Technology Executive and Harvard MBA [and Fraudster Facing Class Action Lawsuit for Securities Fraud] Really Had an Obvious Look of Disappointment When I Told Her I Worked at a Non-Profit [sic] | Techrights

[11:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Jim FTX Zemlin: My Wife Who is a Successful Technology Executive and Harvard MBA [and Fraudster Facing Class Action Lawsuit for Securities Fraud] Really Had an Obvious Look of Disappointment When I Told Her I Worked at a Non-Profit [sic] | Techrights

[11:10] schestowitz-TR James Zemlin and the husband, Sheela Microsoft, promote Bill Gates as "security". Just see comment by zoobab https://lwn.net/Articles/914840/ for background: http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/discriminating-against-free-software/ http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/

[11:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Open-source software vs. the proposed Cyber Resilience Act (NLnet Labs) [LWN.net]

[11:10] schestowitz-TR techrights.org | Attempts to Legislate Against Free Software in Order to Elbow Such Software Aside | Techrights

[11:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Attempts to Legislate Against Free Software in Order to Elbow Such Software Aside | Techrights

[11:10] schestowitz-TR techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights

[11:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights

[11:10] Techrightssec thanks!

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[11:12] schestowitz-TR the attack surface we have here is extensible, and seems to be an HR issue as much as a technical issue

[11:12] schestowitz-TR having said that, judging by comments online people grew invcreasingly sceptical of LF

[11:12] schestowitz-TR it's wiely viewed as "Big Business" lobby

[11:12] schestowitz-TR which is correct

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[11:13] Techrightssec ack

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[11:16] Techrightssec Too many are still fooled by the name and through wishful thinking about

[11:16] Techrightssec what they would have liked the LF to be about. The hard reality is that

[11:16] Techrightssec it represents corporate interests inside kernel development and are actually

[11:16] Techrightssec antagonistic to the idea of promoting and advancing Linux in the world in

[11:16] Techrightssec general.

[11:16] Techrightssec tldr; it's a corporate lobbying group

[11:17] schestowitz-TR 1. go to linux.com

[11:17] schestowitz-TR 2. scan with the eyes

[11:17] schestowitz-TR 3. count articles about linux DESKTOP

[11:17] schestowitz-TR 4. counting articles about LINUX

[11:17] schestowitz-TR 5. count articles about COMMUNITY

[11:17] schestowitz-TR do the same in TFIR (don't; te videos are dying, too)

[11:17] schestowitz-TR the companies that run LF do NTO want Linux to succeed

[11:17] schestowitz-TR they want Linux to be CONTROLLED

[11:17] schestowitz-TR and NOT by USERS or COMMUNITIES

[11:18] Techrightssec I refuse to look at anything I know in advance is from spamnil.

[11:18] Techrightssec Right. That much was obvious when the LF eliminated community representation.

[11:18] Techrightssec That incident still does not get the attention it deserves, even though

[11:18] Techrightssec it is now so long ago in the past.

[11:20] schestowitz-TR 2016: community naughty, microsoft good

[11:20] schestowitz-TR guess who made the project LF is named after

[11:20] schestowitz-TR IN SPITE of Microsoft

[11:20] schestowitz-TR remember their finances looked awful for 2020

[11:20] schestowitz-TR I think they are also rather quiet this past month, and for a REASON

[11:20] schestowitz-TR it's not easy to get info on or from them

[11:20] schestowitz-TR if you can dig in a little, that will help

[11:20] schestowitz-TR open-source int

[11:23] schestowitz-TR --

[11:23] schestowitz-TR wow, linux.com seems like autopilot

[11:23] schestowitz-TR like nobody actually runs the site

[11:23] schestowitz-TR latest 3 "Stories" are merely links to the same site (redhat.com)

[11:23] schestowitz-TR prior to it, mere copy-pasre of linuxfoiundation.org [sic] material

[11:23] schestowitz-TR so you might as well stick a fork in that site

[11:23] schestowitz-TR it's done

[11:23] schestowitz-TR i'm doing an investigate post atm about the demise of blogs too, or sites about patents

[11:23] schestowitz-TR gathering evidence atm

[11:24] Techrightssec Check the RSS feed list. There are hundreds which have gone defunct during

[11:24] Techrightssec the last two years or less.

[11:24] schestowitz-TR investigating a bit while posting links

[11:28] schestowitz-TR brainstorming: before tantek went to Googlezilla he had technorati

[11:28] schestowitz-TR that used to hav an extensive list of blogs

[11:28] schestowitz-TR circa 2005 it still flourished

[11:28] schestowitz-TR getting a list of blogs and checking when they died might be... interesting

[11:28] schestowitz-TR owing to the very large dataset (what media might now dub "BIG DATA")

[11:28] schestowitz-TR I think I'm done with ONS for now

[11:28] schestowitz-TR do you have links to the new fatalities (by status) study?

[11:28] schestowitz-TR I'm sure the response woulkd be predominantly ad hom and similar

[11:28] schestowitz-TR "i found a typo"

[11:28] schestowitz-TR "they don't do it right" (variety of slants)

[11:28] schestowitz-TR "they are shills"

[11:34] schestowitz-TR ffii had no press release for nearly 9 months, 3 only in the past year, and i suspect its rss feed, which previously workd,

[11:34] schestowitz-TR stopped working

[11:34] schestowitz-TR then, a few weeks ago or a week back it issues one press release

[11:34] schestowitz-TR but that's far too little

[11:34] schestowitz-TR zoobab spent too much time in twitter

[11:34] schestowitz-TR and now that it's being freenoded it seems even more like wasted effort tbh

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[11:56] Techrightssec Twitter was and is a waste of time

[11:56] Techrightssec just like other manifestations of social control media

[11:56] Techrightssec That's just at the individual level. The costs and damage that social control

[11:56] Techrightssec media have done and will continue to do to society have yet to be assessed but

[11:56] Techrightssec even at this point it is very, very clear that the costs are already

[11:56] Techrightssec catastrophically high.

[11:56] Techrightssec See CBS' 60 Minutes program about "opium tiktok"

● Nov 22

[12:00] schestowitz-TR china did not forget opiun war I and opium war II

[12:00] schestowitz-TR so it blocked shit like FB right from the get-go

[12:00] schestowitz-TR and I never condemned them for doing so (nor did I conduse)

[12:00] schestowitz-TR *condone

[12:00] schestowitz-TR you might say tiktok is "cheap chinese imitation"

[12:00] schestowitz-TR albeit in very very large doses

[12:00] schestowitz-TR like with drugs they export to other countries

[12:00] schestowitz-TR synthetic (like "spice")

[12:00] schestowitz-TR turns humsn into zombies

[12:03] schestowitz-TR speaking of addictions, to oil, to sport, money etc

[12:03] schestowitz-TR I still seriously consider boycotting EPL too

[12:03] schestowitz-TR top 3 teams (by ranking) are oil money

[12:04] schestowitz-TR and it is not improving over time, it gets a lot worse fast

[12:04] schestowitz-TR I don't want to participate in promoting their sportwashing PR

[12:06] Techrightssec ack

[12:09] schestowitz-TR if you write a blog post to point this out (I''m sure many others did already)

[12:09] schestowitz-TR you risk running afoul of the "islamophobia" policing

[12:09] schestowitz-TR as if opposing

[12:09] schestowitz-TR a) human rights abuse

[12:09] schestowitz-TR b) sport 'doping' (money)

[12:09] schestowitz-TR c) sportwashing

[12:09] schestowitz-TR d) envioronmental pollution and global warning

[12:09] schestowitz-TR is something to do with religion

[12:09] schestowitz-TR a side effect is that it undermines a unifying cultural ritual ("footie")

[12:09] schestowitz-TR some people here in the UK tried to silently protest in the stadium MbS buying a football club

[12:09] schestowitz-TR the police did not mind MbS

[12:09] schestowitz-TR but instead targeted his critics

[12:09] Techrightssec ack

[12:09] Techrightssec It's the go-to excuse for most coverups these days.

[12:13] schestowitz-TR but again, no point blogging about it

[12:13] schestowitz-TR I'm sure many people noticed already

[12:13] schestowitz-TR you just look at the jerseys

[12:13] schestowitz-TR and the league ranks

[12:13] schestowitz-TR common denopminator: huge salaries covered by dirty oil

[12:13] schestowitz-TR Liverpool if owned by some financial firm I don't truly know very well

[12:13] schestowitz-TR and they seem to have lowered their ability or willingness to spend

[12:13] schestowitz-TR so they sank in the rankings

[12:13] schestowitz-TR PSG (Paris) is the most obscene example of paying like quarter billion for one transfer

[12:13] schestowitz-TR and still having a bizarre team of "human trophies"

[12:13] schestowitz-TR dancing to enterain some sheikh

[12:13] schestowitz-TR who won't have top pay as much tax and get protection from politicians in paris

[12:13] schestowitz-TR for the "generocity"

[12:33] schestowitz-TR hmm.. only just stumbled upon https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Roy_Schestowitz

[12:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Roy Schestowitz - Wikispooks

[12:33] Techrightssec checking

[12:33] Techrightssec """

[12:33] Techrightssec Wikipedia has been revealed all the way back in the 2000s by Wikiscanner to be monitored, infiltrated and its content edited by royals,

[12:33] Techrightssec dozens of intelligence agencies, hundreds of corporations and even the assistants of politicians themselves.

[12:33] Techrightssec """

[12:36] schestowitz-TR that much is rather obvious

[12:36] schestowitz-TR but takes work to show

[12:36] schestowitz-TR like nat friedman tryint to proavtively distance himself from serious scandals

[12:37] schestowitz-TR he has a whole bundle of them

[12:37] schestowitz-TR I keep notes and add more

[12:37] schestowitz-TR it'll have its time, for now he lays low

[12:43] Techrightssec Friedman is representative of the corporate culture over at m$ not an exception.

[12:44] schestowitz-TR he always swam close to the money

[12:44] schestowitz-TR even as a microsoft intern in the 90s

[12:44] schestowitz-TR so it was about power and money

[12:44] schestowitz-TR not about any practical contribution to society

[12:45] Techrightssec None of them are about contibutions or advancement of either society or

[12:45] Techrightssec technology. None. They wouldn't be attracted to that institution if they were.

[12:46] schestowitz-TR graveley is a chronological liar

[12:46] schestowitz-TR they did a popdcast together

[12:46] schestowitz-TR friedman apparently paid that 'PR' firm to destroy that link

[12:46] schestowitz-TR when you have money...

[12:54] Techrightssec ... and when there is only a single copy of the item ...

[12:55] schestowitz-TR it would be harder to recall all the books that wrongly say (because of Microsoft bribed) that Torvalds

[12:55] schestowitz-TR had plagiarised minix

[12:55] schestowitz-TR even after minix founder itself denied that

[12:55] schestowitz-TR *bribes

[12:55] schestowitz-TR *pathological

[12:55] schestowitz-TR sorry for typos

[12:59] Techrightssec The spread of disinformation has been essential to their religion.

[12:59] Techrightssec ^ cult

● Nov 22

[13:00] schestowitz-TR now they encoruage plagiarising billions of lines of code

[13:00] schestowitz-TR if you pay them monthly subscription to help

[13:00] schestowitz-TR to hide the plgiarism under veil of "HEY HI"

[13:19] Techrightssec It's not the plagiarism they aim for, though they enjoy that. They

[13:19] Techrightssec use it to scrape off the license and make GPL'd and other FOSS code

[13:19] Techrightssec proprietary.

[13:19] Techrightssec That's neither legal nor ethical but is embraced anyway because it happens

[13:19] Techrightssec to meet the anti-Freedom goals of m$

[13:22] schestowitz-TR yes, true

[13:22] schestowitz-TR a bit short on topics tbh other than buynothing which is due fri morn

[13:22] schestowitz-TR but not to worry, I ahve lots to catch up with, on or before thnkgicving

[13:22] schestowitz-TR *thanklgiving

[13:26] Techrightssec Thursday would be better for BND since lead time and planning determines

[13:26] Techrightssec shopping. If people /plan/ in advance to buy, the article is unlikely to

[13:26] Techrightssec affect their plans. However, if the article is in their thoughts while

[13:26] Techrightssec making plans, then it is more likely to effect a change. My 2 cents.

[13:27] schestowitz-TR i need your help. can you think of a scientific quantitative way to demonstrate demise of blogs in 2020,

[13:27] schestowitz-TR 2021, 2022? demise of social control media notwithstanding

[13:27] schestowitz-TR my feeds have a rule to delete after 30 days since read or retain while unread

[13:27] schestowitz-TR I cannot go far enough backwards

[13:29] Techrightssec Perhaps the feed links in the OPML file could be polled for last update time.

[13:29] Techrightssec No not reading the feeds per se, but polling over HTTP and checking the

[13:29] Techrightssec update time in the XML

[13:30] schestowitz-TR several pitfalls: selection bias (only surviving feeds assessed)

[13:30] schestowitz-TR scope as long as the length of the feed

[13:30] schestowitz-TR favouring ones that barely publish

[13:33] Techrightssec yes of course

[13:33] Techrightssec the feeds are not a random sample

[13:33] Techrightssec The OPML file here still has hundreds of defunct blog feeds listed, they have

[13:33] Techrightssec not been culled.

[13:33] Techrightssec The ones that publish only rarely would still count as much as the frequent

[13:33] Techrightssec posts, using the methodology I have in mind. Perhaps there is a better way.

[13:33] Techrightssec However, there is nothing in the standard about how long entries must be

[13:33] Techrightssec retained within a feed. So some feeds have only very recent articles. Others

[13:33] Techrightssec have a mixture of new along with ancient. However, the obviously defunct ones

[13:33] Techrightssec would either respond with HTTP 404 Not Found or else return only really old

[13:33] Techrightssec entries.

[13:34] schestowitz-TR let me check if others already did such research and published some numbers...

[13:34] schestowitz-TR (not likely; spoiler: nobody seems to measure share of code forges, either)

[13:36] Techrightssec I would not know how to investigate code forges. A confound there is that m$

[13:36] Techrightssec will (and is doing) it's utmost to hide and obscure data about M$ GitHub and

[13:36] Techrightssec it's loss of projects and accounts.

[13:37] schestowitz-TR with help from microsoft-bribed (fact) 'analysts' like redmonk

[13:37] schestowitz-TR and LPI/LF-connected cheerladers like FOSSLife, citing Microsoft's own marketing brochures as "facts"

[13:39] schestowitz 2009: https://www.briansolis.com/2009/11/rumors-of-the-death-of-blogs-are-greatly-exagerated/

[13:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.briansolis.com | Rumors of the Death of Blogs are Greatly Exaggerated - Brian Solis

[13:39] schestowitz 2019: https://hub.wtm.com/were-in-2019-and-blogs-havent-died/

[13:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hub.wtm.com | Were in 2019 and blogs havent died | WTM Global Hub

[13:40] schestowitz "I haven't seen a post-mortem on web communities that really captures the collapse of the particular math teacher group I was part of. They always tend to focus on the demise of blogs/rise of twitter but I think that's small compared to the professionalization of online life."

[13:40] schestowitz nitter

[13:40] schestowitz https://www.debbiestyleslife.com/2022/08/my-7th-blog-anniversary.html

[13:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.debbiestyleslife.com | Debbie Styles Life: My 7th Blog Anniversary

[13:40] schestowitz "I think blogging as a whole has diminished and with the demise of blogs the readers have gone bye-bye as well. Instagram and Tik-Tok are the new "flavors of the month" and have taken the place of many blogs and I find that very sad."

[13:45] schestowitz-TR apropos, many "news" sites and blogs are in a panic right now

[13:45] schestowitz-TR the lion's share of their followers are in zuckerverse and muskdom

[13:45] schestowitz-TR they didn't build a direct followerbase with rss feeds or similar

[13:45] schestowitz-TR pretty much every "youtuber" is the same

[13:45] schestowitz-TR those vloggers dance to the whims of the sponsors of youtube

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[14:27] Techrightssec FB really is a hostile enemy of news sites and blogs. Worse, many fools

[14:27] Techrightssec think that FB is a vehicle for information.

[14:27] Techrightssec fb

[14:28] schestowitz-TR fb

[14:28] schestowitz-TR a) spies on people

[14:28] schestowitz-TR b) customises what those people see; for

[14:28] schestowitz-TR c) maximal engagement (or ad-selling)

[14:28] schestowitz-TR that is not the definition of informing people but maximising diversion (ads, in.c political)

[14:46] Techrightssec Google's Youtube demonetizes and bans videos not just in pursuit of FOSS-hostile

[14:46] Techrightssec agendas but also on various undocumented whims. It's also easy enough to get

[14:46] Techrightssec a channel banned quite by accident or based on what was legitimate when posted

[14:46] Techrightssec at the time years ago.

[14:46] Techrightssec False copyright strikes are another problem area.

[14:47] schestowitz-TR it's like reddit

[14:47] schestowitz-TR sooner or later you get the messaage

[14:47] schestowitz-TR you are not wanted there

[14:47] schestowitz-TR stop cointributing

[14:47] schestowitz-TR *contributing

● Nov 22

[15:24] Techrightssec checking

[15:24] Techrightssec The summary could spell out "EPO" as either European Patent Office etc.

[15:24] schestowitz-TR draft

[15:24] schestowitz-TR to show you how one can handle links in the summary

[15:25] schestowitz-TR showing up inline with title, even in gemini

[15:53] Techrightssec "who ... really is..." couldbe expanded a few words

[15:53] Techrightssec and a hint about why he is a liability

[15:53] Techrightssec np

[15:53] schestowitz-TR adding, thanks...

[15:59] schestowitz-TR epo boobytrapped epo with microsoft-nsa

[15:59] schestowitz-TR and we know who signed the paperwork

[15:59] schestowitz-TR relevant to what I am proofreading right now ;-)

[15:59] schestowitz-TR it's NOT about the crime

[15:59] schestowitz-TR but about WHOI BENFITS from it

● Nov 22

[16:36] schestowitz-TR Spamnil's site promoting Microsoft trash again ("NVIDIA, Microsoft To Build Azure-Hosted AI Supercomputer"). 'Fuck you NVIDIA' -Torvalds

[16:43] schestowitz-TR This was always a bad idea. No IMPORTANT communications should ever have been done on "Twitter" https://walledculture.org/if-twitter-goes-down-in-flames-what-happens-to-its-huge-and-historically-important-collection-of-tweets/

[16:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/if-twitter-goes-down-in-flames-what-happens-to-its-huge-and-historically-important-collection-of-tweets/ )

[16:45] schestowitz-TR Hopefully not: Can Twitter Survive Elon Musk? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-0Ey3eXWJo

[16:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=N-0Ey3eXWJo

[16:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> yt.artemislena.eu | Can Twitter survive Elon Musk? | The Listening Post - Invidious

[16:47] Techrightssec The rightful outburst against Nvidia is always used as a distraction from

[16:47] Techrightssec what he said first in that Q & A session: that choosing the GPL was the

[16:47] Techrightssec best decision he ever made regarding the kernel

[16:47] Techrightssec s/kernel/Linux/

[16:47] Techrightssec I hope (or have an unfounded wish) that the governments and agencies which

[16:47] Techrightssec have been using proprietary Twitter in place of official channels of communication will wise up and change their behavior to resume usi

[16:47] Techrightssec ng and promoting their

[16:47] Techrightssec own official web sites.

[16:47] Techrightssec This kind of even was obvious a hundred miles away and years ago before

[16:47] Techrightssec Twitter even grew big. Using it can be "entertaining" but it should never

[16:47] Techrightssec be allowed to interfere with or replace official channels simply because it

[16:47] Techrightssec cannot.

[16:47] Techrightssec The best possible outcome is that this takes down both. The next best thing

[16:47] Techrightssec would be for Twitter to go down for the count, never to return.

[16:48] schestowitz-TR I agree 99%.

[16:48] schestowitz-TR the "1%" is, maybe they can download they archive, rehost it, use that as "site archive for that

[16:48] schestowitz-TR idiotic time we used some other site"

[16:48] schestowitz-TR I reckon Musk might soon disable downloads as an option

[16:48] schestowitz-TR seeing that many use that to flee for good... with their 'goods'

● Nov 22

[17:24] Techrightssec Not really that would still be playing into the agendas of the manipulators

[17:24] Techrightssec calling the shots at Twitter. Even the least harmful approach of making

[17:24] Techrightssec an announcement pointing only to the official pages feeds Twitter and lends

[17:24] Techrightssec it unwarranted credibility. People would assume that because the governments

[17:24] Techrightssec are using it that it is vetted and reliable. There is a lot of projection

[17:24] Techrightssec and magical thinking going on in that regard. The data, and court and

[17:25] Techrightssec congressional testimonties, show that Twitter is unreliable and maniuplative

[17:25] Techrightssec regardless of which agencies are feeding it.

[17:25] Techrightssec Stuff that /was/ in Twitter is gone. People missed their chance to try

[17:25] Techrightssec to download it and as good as 100% of those who did download either have

[17:25] Techrightssec no ability to process the format or not spare time to do so even if they can.

[17:25] Techrightssec Those that have both the ablity, interest, and time are not even a rounding

[17:25] Techrightssec error, I figure.

[17:51] schestowitz-TR Sweden Expands Espionage Law https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/21/sweden-expands-espionage-law-endangering-freedom-of-journalists-and-whistleblowers/ | Source: Scheerpost

[17:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sweden Expands Espionage Law, Endangering Freedom of Journalists and Whistleblowers - scheerpost.com

[17:52] schestowitz-TR iirc, the main reason wikileaks was orbiting .se was the perceived protection of the host and state

[17:52] schestowitz-TR for journalism

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[18:27] schestowitz-TR Sam Varghese posting obligatory spam under "black friday" theme https://itwire.com/home-it/belong,-konec-offer-mobile-deals-for-black-friday.html\\

[18:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Belong, Konec Mobile offer deals for Black Friday

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