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● Jan 22

[00:24] schestowitz-TR 30% Increase in UK Deaths, Including Young People https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/22/scandal-of-excess-deaths/

[00:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive 30% Increase in UK Deaths, Including Young People

● Jan 22

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[07:55] schestowitz[TR] troll having a stab at it again today; can't stop me, just slow me down a little. Now I have far more time not just for TR but also to properly research the stuff (very in-depth, raw evidence included)

[07:56] schestowitz[TR] I found some interesting stuff about ISO

[07:56] schestowitz[TR] but need to properly present it for more impact//salarity

[07:56] schestowitz[TR] *clarity

● Jan 22

[08:01] schestowitz-TR apropos iso, the existence of this series just serves to show that all that iso red tape is total bs

[08:01] schestowitz-TR gdpr aside, people who write things cannot be denied access to things they wrote, it's like drm - a fantasy

[08:01] schestowitz-TR fsfe tried to weaponise gdpr against pocock and it just backfired

[08:15] techrigthssec Glyn Moody pointed out Benjamin White's article which mentioned article

[08:15] techrigthssec 16(3) of the Finnish Constitution and which might be relevant not just

[08:15] techrigthssec in regards to copyright but also in regards of ridding the national

[08:15] techrigthssec institutions of m$ products, especially its formats.

[08:15] techrigthssec (kind of overlaps with DRM there)

[08:15] schestowitz-TR I saw that yesterday

[08:15] schestowitz-TR thought about pasting in irc too

[08:56] techrigthssec The formats aren't just a theoretical threat but have been used time and again

[08:56] techrigthssec to exclude competition including competition from older versions of their own

[08:56] techrigthssec productivity suite

[08:56] techrigthssec It's not a great distance to leap to show the role that DRM plays in hindering

[08:56] techrigthssec either open science, arts, etc

[08:59] schestowitz-TR anything "open" or Commons is seen as "not privatised YET"

[08:59] schestowitz-TR vaccine knowledge

[08:59] schestowitz-TR NHS

● Jan 22

[09:00] schestowitz-TR etc etc

[09:00] schestowitz-TR they can turn schools to into BUSINESSES

[09:00] schestowitz-TR and then hail the "successful business people"

[09:00] schestowitz-TR composers, conductors, actual musicians ---> sony

[09:00] schestowitz-TR i do not mind paying for water treatment, energy generation, even internet

[09:00] schestowitz-TR (british net infra is relativelt robust)

[09:00] schestowitz-TR those do take actual work, plus maintenance

[09:00] schestowitz-TR we listen to karen carpenter atm

[09:00] schestowitz-TR if we bought her albums, WHO would get paid?

[09:00] schestowitz-TR she died so long ago

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[09:03] techrigthssec

[09:03] techrigthssec s/can turn/did already turn/

[09:17] techrigthssec Look at the mystery of the lost money from the late Marc Bolan and T Rex

[09:17] techrigthssec His son spend many years trying to find out where any of it went

[09:18] techrigthssec hmm. can't find an authoritative / relevant link atm

[09:18] techrigthssec There were a few investigative articles about it

[09:35] schestowitz-TR seems like a motif/theme

[09:35] schestowitz-TR when the car carries one person, out of sight of many

[09:35] schestowitz-TR in malta and libya even car bombs

[09:35] schestowitz-TR one by mafia, the latter british spies

[09:35] schestowitz-TR hastings is another

[09:35] schestowitz-TR it'll get worse and harder to detect/investigate as cars get "smarter"

[09:38] techrigthssec Much easier with the networked cars filled with proprietary software

[09:39] schestowitz-TR it can be remotely tampered before AND AFTER

[09:39] schestowitz-TR first for stealth

[09:39] schestowitz-TR later for coverup

[09:39] schestowitz-TR history -c

[09:39] schestowitz-TR rm -rf /tmp /var/log/*

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● Jan 22

[10:15] schestowitz-TR the term lost its meaning

[10:15] schestowitz-TR it used to mean something more precise

[10:15] schestowitz-TR now it's a junk term like "smart"

[10:17] techrigthssec There must be an accurate term for automated programming done by statistical

[10:17] techrigthssec analysis of obscene quantities of data and permutations.

[10:17] techrigthssec Yes, the point a bout brute force needs to be highlighted in nearly all

[10:17] techrigthssec examples.

[10:17] schestowitz-TR it's a bunch of things

[10:17] schestowitz-TR nlp

[10:17] schestowitz-TR statistics

[10:17] schestowitz-TR or the two combined

[10:17] schestowitz-TR for image there is fusion

[10:17] schestowitz-TR but that's not always ML

[10:17] schestowitz-TR and lots of it is crap

[10:17] schestowitz-TR compensated for by crute force

[10:17] schestowitz-TR like plagiarising billions of texts

[10:17] schestowitz-TR then saying bing will do HEY HI

[10:17] schestowitz-TR while FIRING the bing staff

[10:18] schestowitz-TR for now I've quit checking the rumour mill

[10:18] schestowitz-TR hard to find signal there

[10:18] schestowitz-TR gonna open the SN links now, then do daily linkls

[10:24] schestowitz-TR gone throughj the urls quikckly, in passing

[10:24] schestowitz-TR plagiarism is a very old problems

[10:24] schestowitz-TR plagiarism and nlp are very old problems in CS

[10:24] schestowitz-TR see SCIGen for instance

[10:24] schestowitz-TR slashdot too covered that in its "golden" days

[10:24] schestowitz-TR the "sudden" hype disturbs me

[10:24] schestowitz-TR biab, gonna focus on links, will avoid multitasking to avoid distraction/slowdown

[10:24] schestowitz-TR want to do some backups by monday

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[11:15] techrigthssec ack

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● Jan 22

[12:40] schestowitz-TR daily links done, doing rss now

[12:40] schestowitz-TR topics welcome

[12:40] schestowitz-TR iso will be among the next targets

[12:40] schestowitz-TR many parts

[12:42] techrigthssec including the MOOX scandal in all the comnpnent ISO committees in each

[12:42] techrigthssec member country?

[12:43] schestowitz-TR it links to the wiki about ISO

[12:49] schestowitz-TR firsthand account of iso as papermill is damaghing enough

[12:54] schestowitz-TR good news: intensity of FUD and attacks on Linux lately, or so far this year, down notably

[12:54] schestowitz-TR I hope it means budget for things like "sponsoring" SFC has gone down

[12:57] techrigthssec Maybe m$ is realizing that it is about out of money and has already cut back

[12:57] techrigthssec on the departments dealing with financing shills and astroturfers?

[12:58] schestowitz-TR "marketing" explicitly mentioned among the cuts

[12:58] schestowitz-TR so I joked it would mean less shills/astroturfing

[12:58] schestowitz-TR "media partners" and all that...

● Jan 22

[13:13] techrigthssec Marketing used to be very clearly the largest single line item in m$ budget.

[13:13] techrigthssec However, when they got ridiculed for that, it appears that they split up

[13:13] techrigthssec the marketing among all the various sections to hide how much larger it has

[13:13] techrigthssec grown. M$ "Research" is basically sales / marketing.

[13:13] techrigthssec and little to no actual (computer) science

[13:14] schestowitz-TR yes, lewis showed the numbers before

[13:14] schestowitz-TR concluded marketing with the biggest unit

[13:14] schestowitz-TR calling it "marketing" is itself marketing

[13:14] schestowitz-TR i.e. misleading

[13:14] schestowitz-TR in nigeria, microsoft called bribery to cut off gnu/linux "marketing help"

[13:16] techrigthssec Looking at the Old version of Slashdot from 2002. No wonder m$ wanted it dead.

[13:16] techrigthssec IIRC it was announced in 2002 or 2003 that the largest line item was marketing.

[13:16] techrigthssec The next quarter's SEC filing had that "fixed" as mentioned above.

[13:17] schestowitz-TR *cough LF Research(TM) cough

[13:17] schestowitz-TR marketed by MS Perlow

[13:17] schestowitz-TR 'Research' for Snyk

● Jan 22

[14:44] schestowitz-TR So Much Sex On YouTube! Are They Trying To Compete With The Hub? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BPNWzCnIsw0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/BPNWzCnIsw0

[14:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | So Much Sex On YouTube! Are They Trying To Compete With The Hub? - Invidious

● Jan 22

[15:00] techrigthssec ack

[15:00] schestowitz-TR tumblr for videos?

[15:39] techrigthssec No idea

[15:39] techrigthssec As discussed a long while back YouTube's business model might not be

[15:39] techrigthssec economically viable.

[15:44] schestowitz-TR ag red? iirc, that was the name, "red".

[15:44] schestowitz-TR and iirc, they had other paid-for experiments/options

[15:44] schestowitz-TR that's when you knew something was amiss

[15:44] schestowitz-TR iirc, shut down due to lack of demand

[15:44] schestowitz-TR same as cnn's premium opffering

[15:44] schestowitz-TR i never watched netflix anywhere

[15:44] schestowitz-TR so not sure how it works (i read about "password-sharing", podesta did that too)

[15:44] schestowitz-TR netflix competes against youtube economics

[15:44] schestowitz-TR not hd or lesser hd

[15:44] schestowitz-TR but if youtube operates at a loss,

[15:44] schestowitz-TR then netflix basically competes with "below zero"

[15:44] schestowitz-TR they do the "uber modus"

[15:44] schestowitz-TR if they charge more or curtail "sharing", people can turn to USB, external disks, iptv etc.

[15:44] schestowitz-TR a lot of "modern" "tech" is a bubblew

[15:44] schestowitz-TR running on the money or riding the capital of oil, pension funds, and speculation

[15:44] schestowitz-TR hence microsoft, despite CLAIMING to be super-profitable, is makign deep cuts

[15:44] schestowitz-TR they all play poker and wait for time to fold

[15:44] schestowitz-TR now, they realise no winner is imminent and show the doors, don't expect many to ask for payrise in this climate

[15:45] schestowitz-TR > remember gulag red? iirc, that was the name, "red".

[15:45] schestowitz-TR and iirc, they had other paid-for experiments/options

[15:45] schestowitz-TR i meant youtube red, did not loo to check. youtube pays the "Creator" a lot less, they're not happy; 60% revenue

[15:45] schestowitz-TR share not goes to the host, not the creator that does like, 90% of the actual work

[15:56] techrigthssec Netflix has its own economic problems and it ships around large servers filled

[15:56] techrigthssec with fully-loaded hard drives to try to reduce the amount of bandwidth wasted.

[15:56] techrigthssec One of the main roles that Netflix and the other streaming services seems to

[15:56] techrigthssec fill is as a promoter of TBL's move to a non-open, DRM'd web to replace trhe

[15:56] techrigthssec open WWW we had until quite recently.

[15:56] techrigthssec Tiktok is information warfare, especially psyops against the west.

[15:56] techrigthssec That was made 100% clear by the CBS 60-Minutes segment on it a while back.

[15:56] techrigthssec Aside from CBS itself, it got NO coverage in the mainstream and almost none

[15:56] techrigthssec even on the fringes.

[15:57] techrigthssec ByteDance is not just mentally crippling a whole generation in the west,

[15:57] techrigthssec it is breaking them off from the continuity of culture and history, rendering

[15:57] techrigthssec them incapable of inheriting the reins when they would otherwise have become

[15:57] techrigthssec old enough for that to have happened.

[15:57] techrigthssec https://www.cbsnews.com/video/tiktok-in-china-versus-the-united-states-60-minutes/

[15:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cbsnews.com | TikTok in China versus the United States | 60 Minutes - CBS News

[15:57] techrigthssec """

[15:57] techrigthssec You must connect to your TV Provider to watch this video.

[15:57] techrigthssec """

[15:57] techrigthssec In contrast, in Red China, Bytedance limits access by youth in two ways.

[15:57] techrigthssec First, instead of maximizing the time spent (I hear of 4, 6 or more hours per

[15:57] techrigthssec day) the kids there are limited to no more than 40 minutes per day. Second,

[15:57] techrigthssec they are shown science and other educational videos, not how to choke themselves

[15:57] techrigthssec to death, knock out their own teeth, or eat dishwasher detergent.

[15:57] schestowitz-TR like i said, i'm all ears about tiktok, netflix etc. ZERO hands-on experience.

[15:58] schestowitz-TR I tried "gaming" things the other day in house of fraser

[15:58] schestowitz-TR helped me keep up with "state of the art", hands on literally

[15:58] schestowitz-TR it was mostly underwhelming

● Jan 22

[16:01] techrigthssec If you really are interested in Bytedance/Tiktok, get the above CBS 60-Minutes

[16:01] techrigthssec segment and take detailed notes while watching.

[16:01] techrigthssec Anyway, those 4 to 6 hours per day wasted in bytedance are not just lost

[16:01] techrigthssec they are spend being programmed into who knows what but whatever it is it has

[16:01] techrigthssec no continuity with any culture existing on the planet.

[16:01] techrigthssec Instead of addressing the national security problem head on, the talking

[16:01] techrigthssec heads and pundits blather on and on about "privacy". While privacy is an

[16:01] techrigthssec actual problem, it is only a step along the path. Same for the addictiveness

[16:01] techrigthssec of these skinner boxes, though that is rarely mentioned. It is the active

[16:01] techrigthssec programming done by these adaptive skinner boxes which is as problematic

[16:01] techrigthssec as the group controling the programming.

[16:02] schestowitz-TR could you make the case trhat this is like us state programming via tv, escept

[16:02] schestowitz-TR more hours per day

[16:02] schestowitz-TR and alwaysd in the pocket

[16:02] schestowitz-TR and more harmful "content" with little quality control

[16:02] schestowitz-TR and yet worse, intentionally bad things?

[16:05] psydruid I've read that they adapted TikTok/ByteDance to western preferences

[16:05] techrigthssec No, while TV certainly is one-way corporate programming, it is not adaptive

[16:05] techrigthssec to the individual nor highly addictive.

[16:05] techrigthssec https://www.jpost.com/omg/article-726145

[16:05] techrigthssec Though I do suspect that the TV (incl netflix, hulu, etc) intentionlly spread

[16:05] techrigthssec harmful attitudes and values by design. The whole "reality tv" trope really

[16:05] techrigthssec has modified global society in a bad way: those that excell are not to be

[16:05] techrigthssec emulated but ganged up on and torn down by small people

[16:05] techrigthssec The "reality tv" provides a template for how they can do that

[16:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.jpost.com/omg/article-726145 )

[16:05] techrigthssec and provides, by being an observed model, encouragement to do so.

[16:05] schestowitz-TR psydruid: spinach and opium

[16:06] schestowitz-TR they use it as a weapon outside China

[16:06] schestowitz-TR like British opium wars

[16:06] schestowitz-TR causing the population to be mentally sedated

[16:07] techrigthssec Not just sedated but dependent and injured.

[16:09] techrigthssec At 4+ hours per day it retards actual social and mental development.

[16:09] techrigthssec on purpose.

[16:11] schestowitz-TR if DT si correct, we'll see what youtube's promotion of sex will cause

[16:11] schestowitz-TR I hadn't heard of this phenomenon before today

[16:11] schestowitz-TR i also don't know how pr0nhub works

[16:12] schestowitz-TR and whether they can compete with that thing

[16:12] schestowitz-TR streaming pr0n was always a very bad idea

[16:12] techrigthssec The competition is probably monopoly by now and youtube won't be able to break

[16:12] techrigthssec in and the same old storage costs will bite them anyway

[16:14] schestowitz-TR i think vimeo, gulagtube etc. are unique in this regad

[16:14] schestowitz-TR user-uploaded and shared "catalogues"

[16:14] schestowitz-TR unlike netflix

[16:14] schestowitz-TR i think pr0nhub is something more like netflix, or a breed in-between

[16:14] schestowitz-TR so bandwidth, not storage costs, may cost a lot

[16:15] schestowitz-TR plus licensing

[16:15] schestowitz-TR psydruid: big match about to start

[16:15] schestowitz-TR not watching any of them, just checking the table (points, not goals)

[16:15] psydruid yeah

[16:15] schestowitz-TR i herad the 3 goals here

[16:15] schestowitz-TR i cannot not hear them

[16:15] schestowitz-TR every room

[16:16] psydruid btw, our two wingers anrsd best playe were sold to Liverpool and Chelsea in recent weeks

[16:16] schestowitz-TR i can tell the score just by listening

[16:16] psydruid they have insane amounts of money so they can buy anyone they want

[16:16] psydruid and*

[16:16] psydruid players*

[16:16] schestowitz-TR "our"?

[16:16] schestowitz-TR NL?

[16:16] psydruid PSV Eindhoven

[16:17] schestowitz-TR LFC and Chelsea seem knackered

[16:17] psydruid the club I've supported since I was a child in the late 80s

[16:17] psydruid yes

[16:17] psydruid I saw that one yesterday

[16:17] psydruid it was horrendous

[16:17] schestowitz-TR rianne was loling

[16:17] psydruid all that money gone to waste

[16:17] psydruid it looked like amateur football

[16:17] schestowitz-TR maybe lfc's owner want exit strategy

[16:17] schestowitz-TR gave away their best striker

[16:18] schestowitz-TR for cheap

[16:18] schestowitz-TR 50 mil iirc

[16:18] schestowitz-TR fcb paid like 100 for their previous leading striker

[16:18] psydruid it looks like clubs in NL and DE are run much more financially responsibly

[16:18] schestowitz-TR iirc, lfc was planning the sell the club

[16:18] psydruid relying much on youth to break into first teams

[16:18] schestowitz-TR a decade ago they pursued famous criminal billy as a buyer

[16:19] psydruid and then selling those at profit to clubs with owners who have infinitely sized pockets

[16:19] techrigthssec I've not read an analysis of the business model or costs.

[16:19] schestowitz-TR psydruid: tax evasion

[16:19] schestowitz-TR uk/london

[16:19] schestowitz-TR buy a club

[16:19] schestowitz-TR lobby

[16:19] schestowitz-TR save tax

[16:19] schestowitz-TR sportwashing

[16:21] psydruid that's what's happening

[16:21] psydruid the difference is that it's done at a massive scale

[16:21] psydruid compared to what happens in minor leagues like romania

[16:23] schestowitz-TR i stopped watching

[16:23] schestowitz-TR cold turkey

[16:23] schestowitz-TR don't check who scores, either

[16:23] schestowitz-TR we have two potent club here

[16:23] psydruid I think football is still a great sport to do

[16:23] psydruid and to watch as well

[16:23] schestowitz-TR building a positive image

[16:23] psydruid but I think it's better to support the grassroots

[16:23] schestowitz-TR i've not played in tears

[16:23] schestowitz-TR since corona

[16:24] psydruid I haven't either

[16:24] schestowitz-TR i'm a goalie since childhood

[16:24] schestowitz-TR it's a shame because I want to play

[16:24] schestowitz-TR and I rarely see groups here

[16:24] psydruid having had covid three times really makes a difference

[16:24] schestowitz-TR not even 5-a-side

[16:24] schestowitz-TR probably too busy with their skinnerboxes

[16:24] schestowitz-TR in uni we did 5-a-side a lot

[16:24] psydruid I played as a goalkeeper for a few years because I was good at it

[16:25] schestowitz-TR 3 times, wow

[16:25] psydruid but I'm actually a field player

[16:25] schestowitz-TR like my mom

[16:25] schestowitz-TR she now has medical concerns

[16:25] schestowitz-TR phoned me about it 2 hours ago

[16:25] psydruid even during my final year as a goalkeeper I played as a second striker a few times

[16:25] schestowitz-TR i can do field also

[16:25] psydruid so the reserve goalkeeper went into goal

[16:25] schestowitz-TR but my dribbling is not god enough

[16:25] schestowitz-TR *good

[16:25] schestowitz-TR hence, more defence position

[16:26] schestowitz-TR or hybrid like ederson

[16:26] psydruid you learn it by playing outside

[16:26] schestowitz-TR goalies that cannot use the feet well are worthless, esp. in 5 a side\

[16:26] psydruid I think I just did it for fun with schoolmates

[16:26] psydruid and when I was 8 the local football club came asking my parents to join

[16:26] schestowitz-TR goalie : field + hands

[16:26] schestowitz-TR not hands + field

[16:27] psydruid yeah

[16:27] psydruid now more so than back in the day

[16:27] schestowitz-TR yes, "modern goalkeeper"

[16:27] psydruid I was called Van der Sar by our captain

[16:27] schestowitz-TR the german captain used to take the free kicks

[16:27] psydruid because I was actually a field player who went into goal

[16:27] schestowitz-TR kahn

[16:27] schestowitz-TR and also covered goal

[16:28] schestowitz-TR jurgen era

[16:28] schestowitz-TR i never stayed only in goal

[16:28] schestowitz-TR as that would not let me develop legwork

[16:28] schestowitz-TR btw, I still have many dreams about it

[16:28] schestowitz-TR usually goal stuff as a teen

[16:28] schestowitz-TR it keeps coming back at night

[16:28] schestowitz-TR even this past week

[16:29] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/category/sport/

[16:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Sport

[16:29] schestowitz got soem medals

[16:29] schestowitz 2nd place

[16:29] schestowitz with a truly crap team

[16:29] schestowitz they did rely on me, not the other way around

[16:30] schestowitz oops, wrong url

[16:30] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/sports.htm

[16:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | Sports

[16:31] schestowitz-TR kickoff

[16:32] psydruid oh right

[16:39] schestowitz-TR don't know if there are goals

[16:39] schestowitz-TR old trafford is way too far

[16:40] schestowitz-TR 2+ miles away, i think

[16:44] schestowitz-TR Setting a new focus for my blog https://drewdevault.com/2023/01/22/2023-01-22-A-new-focus.html Source: Drew DeVault | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//drewdevault.com/2023/01/22/2023-01-22-A-new-focus.html

[16:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-drewdevault.com | Setting a new focus for my blog

[16:45] psydruid they're playing at the Emirates

[16:46] schestowitz-TR i was just guessing the location

[16:47] schestowitz-TR btw, weird for us-owned team to have a stadium called that

[16:50] psydruid they've completely sold out anything to do with the club

[16:50] schestowitz-TR 0-1 United :D

[16:50] psydruid they're finally playing good football again

[16:50] psydruid after almost a decade

[16:51] schestowitz-TR because ronaldo LEFT

[16:51] schestowitz-TR that's when they stopped losing

[16:51] schestowitz-TR now the "old horse" is in the land of "let's eat camel"

[16:51] psydruid I would say the new Dutch coach has had a hand in it

[16:51] psydruid I like to say that United are cheating a bit

[16:51] schestowitz-TR he lost the first two games

[16:52] schestowitz-TR seemed like disaster

[16:52] schestowitz-TR like that guy de bohr

[16:52] schestowitz-TR [sic]

[16:52] schestowitz-TR who was sacked after only 4 games, iirc

[16:52] psydruid it takes time to completely change things

[16:52] schestowitz-TR shortest coasing career ever

[16:52] psydruid well, De Boer was a disaster

[16:52] schestowitz-TR was it crystal palance?

[16:52] psydruid yes

[16:52] schestowitz-TR anyway, goin g to sleep now

[16:52] psydruid and Inter Milan before

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