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[01:58] schestowitz this page was automatically created and is linked to from the wiki index, however it doesn't work (not sure why) gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium/

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[09:07] Techrights-sec Directory index disabled.

[09:07] Techrights-sec There's nothing in the directory itself so I'll look into that, probably

[09:07] Techrights-sec the process fails somewhere before completion.

[09:07] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium/

[09:07] Techrights-sec does not exist

[09:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | World Wide Web Consortium/ - Techrights

[09:07] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium

[09:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | World Wide Web Consortium - Techrights

[09:08] Techrights-sec exists, so there might be a broken link pointing to the first one somewhere

[09:08] Techrights-sec One problem is that the wiki is interpreting the literal blockquote and

[09:08] Techrights-sec making a mailto: link:

[09:08] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/wiki/Why_are_we_giving_out_the_Office_2000_formats

[09:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Why are we giving out the Office 2000 formats - Techrights

[09:08] Techrights-sec Is this page broken or missing? http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/px03078.pdf

[09:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | 404 Not Found

[09:08] Techrights-sec Work around for now is to ignore all mailto and treat as normal text

[09:08] Techrights-sec pushed to Git

[09:08] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/wiki/Why_are_we_giving_out_the_Office_2000_formats#Full_Exhibit has a wonky link

[09:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Why are we giving out the Office 2000 formats - Techrights

[09:09] schestowitz-TR yesterday I added two new pages to the wiki, hence I noticed this. Maybe when I have spare time I should tidy up existing stuff rather than write new? Always a trade-off, but surely the wiki could be improved a great deal

[09:11] Techrights-sec there is a lot of benefit from periodic tidying. If possible, can we

[09:11] Techrights-sec rename pages with paths containing ; " ' and & in them? It would

[09:11] Techrights-sec not only simplify things, it would (IMO) add another layer of safety to

[09:11] Techrights-sec the scripts, especially anything shell script related.

[09:12] schestowitz-TR aliasing pages in the wiki would prevent bad links, but I sort of forgot how to do it, I just know it can be done.

[09:13] schestowitz-TR BTW, letting people have read-only direct access to git would be problematic if hiding your initials is required

[09:13] schestowitz-TR I've just studied the latest 3 commits

[09:16] Techrights-sec ack

[09:16] Techrights-sec Yes, they are there in the commits. I figure we should make another repository for the public, read-only edition.

[09:16] Techrights-sec "plan to throw one away" so to speak

[09:16] Techrights-sec this one has been for practice and there are still a few important tasks

[09:16] Techrights-sec to master before publishing, I would say.

[09:16] schestowitz-TR OTOH, this can encourage people to get a gemini client

[09:17] schestowitz-TR I took two days OFF next week, rianne took the weekend off (she usually works weekends only), now working towards naturalisation

[09:20] Techrights-sec Excellent.

[09:21] Techrights-sec Is there a projected timeline for naturalization?

[09:21] Techrights-sec As for promoting Gemini clients, that would mainly happen via good packaging

[09:21] Techrights-sec in a few key distros. Debian is still upstream from the most popular ones.

[09:22] schestowitz-TR rianne will be meeting a lawyer from a .org next week, I think the prospects are good, but I won't be joining as covid-19 is a risk and maybe soon even meetings won't be possible at al

[09:27] Techrights-sec Yes, that (and the other pandemics) get worse rather than better. The vaccines

[09:27] Techrights-sec do little to prevent contagion. They reduce the load on the ICUs but not

[09:27] Techrights-sec much more and they need refreshing every six months at 25 Euro pe

[09:28] schestowitz-TR more

[09:28] schestowitz-TR I know the prices

[09:28] schestowitz-TR it''s a bloody racket

[09:28] schestowitz-TR I try to mention it along the way in almost every video about patents

[09:28] Techrights-sec

[09:28] Techrights-sec Fact-checking has become more and more ideological and less and less related

[09:28] Techrights-sec to the statement of empirical facts. The doses have a cost. Yet discussion

[09:28] Techrights-sec gets quieted or shut down completely.

[09:28] Techrights-sec back in a few hours

[09:29] schestowitz-TR I still want to know the total production cost; remember that legal liability isn't a component as they waive that away

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[15:27] Techrights-sec Is this site legitimate?

[15:27] Techrights-sec https://newsnationusa.com/news/technology/nasa-apparently-needs-to-swot-up-on-its-open-source-knowledge/

[15:27] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsNation

[15:27] -altlink_2b9/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: newsnationusa.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newsnationusa.com/news/technology/nasa-apparently-needs-to-swot-up-on-its-open-source-knowledge/

[15:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-newsnationusa.com | NASA apparently needs to swot up on its open-source knowledge - News Nation USA

[15:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | NewsNation - Wikipedia

[15:27] schestowitz-TR fake

[15:27] schestowitz-TR I know it

[15:27] Techrights-sec Ok I'll add it to the filter. thanks

[15:27] Techrights-sec Pushed to Git now.

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[16:20] Techrights-sec There has been a big upswing in clearly (and not so clearly) dodgy sites

[16:20] Techrights-sec posting many detailed articles about FOSS and GNU/Linux in particular.

[16:20] Techrights-sec The has been the case for a month or so at least.

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[17:13] schestowitz this was picked up correctly gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo/

[17:20] Techrights-sec excellent. the new changes to the wiki will get picked up daily via RSS

[17:20] Techrights-sec unless they have ; & ' " in the title.

[17:20] Techrights-sec It's not necessary to ban those but having them can in principle be problematic

[17:20] Techrights-sec for any shell scripts that might be in use.

[17:21] schestowitz-TR I've only just published many historical data points about IRC, maybe I will follow that up tomorrow

[17:23] Techrights-sec for any shell scripts that might be in use.

[17:23] Techrights-sec Perl scripts contain those properly, with the right methods.

[17:23] Techrights-sec Good, IRC is important too.

[17:23] schestowitz-TR MSM pretends never to have heard of it, never mind if I've used it as long as I've been a teen

[17:24] Techrights-sec Mainstream media pushes "Slack" over IRC and like to pretend that IRC does

[17:24] Techrights-sec not exist.

[17:24] Techrights-sec Anything which raises the profile of IRC in a good way benefits the open Internet

[17:24] Techrights-sec back in about 30 minutes

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