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[03:04] schestowitz-TR still very low temps here

[03:04] schestowitz-TR going to OTA in a moment

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[07:57] techrightssec2 s/not use/nor use/

[07:57] techrightssec2 Happy Birthday today

[07:57] schestowitz-TR thanks!, catching up

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[09:58] schestowitz-TR i did not watch it all, but trust your judgement and reposted that

[09:58] schestowitz-TR still falling behind because of all the "happy bday" calls, which are mostly repetitive

[09:58] schestowitz-TR probably the thing I like the least tbh

● Dec 17

[10:04] techrightssec2 The first third was about WeaSeL specifically, the rest was two other segments

[10:04] techrightssec2 putting it into proper context and warning about what Restricted Boot, TPM 2,

[10:04] techrightssec2 and M$ Pluton are doing against general-purpose computing, specifically how

[10:04] techrightssec2 it bans BSD and Linux from the hardware.

[10:04] techrightssec2 .

[10:05] schestowitz-TR yes, this is the general direction

[10:05] schestowitz-TR "we're not preventing competition; we SUPPORT it!"

[10:05] schestowitz-TR and canonical sold out in 2016, just like LF

[10:10] mjg59_ Pluton doesn't block any OS from the hardware

[10:11] techrightssec2 That direction was laid out back 20+ years ago when M$ tried to buy some BIOS

[10:11] techrightssec2 company and at the same time added DRM to WMP after the public rejected it from

[10:11] techrightssec2 MSO or something more serious. At the time, people let their kids install

[10:11] techrightssec2 whatever the fuck they got a hold of regardless of the damage it would do

[10:11] techrightssec2 -- on actual work computers. People rejected the DRM so M$ operated through

[10:11] techrightssec2 their kids and non-essiential software, with the victims not realizing or not

[10:11] techrightssec2 caring that the changes affected the whole system. The BIOS company was either

[10:11] schestowitz-TR draft

[10:11] techrightssec2 Pheonix or AMI. They stopped pursuing the BIOS as it could not lock out Linux

[10:11] techrightssec2 and other kernels until it was replaced by UEFI.

[10:11] techrightssec2 Canonical was infiltrated but the UEFI team had something very wrong with it

[10:11] techrightssec2 from the start. The premise was wrong from the beginning and thus only fools

[10:11] techrightssec2 or traitors, or a mixture of both, signed on.

[10:12] schestowitz-TR going to be a busy day today

[10:12] schestowitz-TR started by lots of boring stuff

[10:12] schestowitz-TR I'll try to get ahead with rss feeds

[10:21] psydruid if you don't want M$ Pluton in your hardware, you're an unreasonable puppy kicker

[10:27] psydruid unfortunately for M$ the company will play an increasingly smaller role in the world of computing in general and hardware in particular

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[10:42] schestowitz-TR mg works for microsoft

[10:44] techrightssec2 ack

● Dec 17

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[11:04] techrightssec2 M$ is spinning and will continue to spin Pluton as either necessary or harmless

[11:04] techrightssec2 and will do a lot to distract from how dangerous it is to self-determination

[11:04] techrightssec2 and general-purpose computing.

[11:04] techrightssec2 DOJ should be considering it an antitrust regression but won't due to political

[11:04] techrightssec2 and resource constraints

[11:40] schestowitz-TR rianne found a greeting she wrote to me in 2013 but only handed over last night

[11:40] schestowitz-TR so that was quite special

[11:40] schestowitz-TR most bday greetings are dull, shallow, repetitve, corny and basically without any value/worth

[11:40] schestowitz-TR and that gets worse over the years

[11:40] schestowitz-TR like the age of emoji

[11:40] schestowitz-TR where even words can barely be used

[11:41] techrightssec2 :)

[11:41] techrightssec2 and the interpretations of the meanings of 'emoji' change from month to month

[11:42] schestowitz-TR some "apps" apparently have "stickers"

[11:42] schestowitz-TR and I think those are proprietary

[11:42] schestowitz-TR we don't use mobile p;hones or "apps"

[11:42] schestowitz-TR but I saw exchanges of greetings that boil down to pressing a button or choosing something

[11:42] schestowitz-TR from a selector

[11:42] schestowitz-TR that's not a greeting

[11:42] schestowitz-TR that's utter bullshit

[11:43] schestowitz-TR it's like writing someone a cheque as a "gift"

[11:43] schestowitz-TR or worse

[11:43] schestowitz-TR making a bank transfer

[11:43] schestowitz-TR although that takes more effort then sending emoji

[11:44] schestowitz-TR haha, bank transfer with transaction note that is an emoji

[11:44] schestowitz-TR party like it's 2025

[11:59] techrightssec2 ack

● Dec 17

[12:07] schestowitz-TR i think that owing to our very very old wsl articles being read lately there will be more people out there

[12:07] schestowitz-TR who unlike concern trolls and shills will point out what the "grand plan" is

[12:07] schestowitz-TR but tbh, not much remains to be said now

[12:07] schestowitz-TR microsoft rebrands it and re-annnounces it to googlebomb "linus"

[12:07] schestowitz-TR with WINDOWS

[12:09] schestowitz-TR i amk still trying to figure out where to shave off time and how

[12:09] schestowitz-TR some of that might require writing custom-made programs

[12:09] schestowitz-TR e.g. duplicate detection

[12:09] schestowitz-TR quiterss is very gui-centri (qt)

[12:09] schestowitz-TR so writing extensions to it is not an option

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[12:12] schestowitz-TR one time-consuming task can be figuring out which links you already check throughout the week

[12:12] schestowitz-TR atm I check against a complete db of the links

[12:15] techrightssec2 One way might be to have a script which loads and processes an OPML file and

[12:15] techrightssec2 then creates a web page using the summary/details elements and let the browser

[12:15] techrightssec2 track which URLs have been visited?

[12:15] techrightssec2 The script could have duplicate detection easily.

[12:15] techrightssec2 The browser does that the only problem is that there seems to be no way to

[12:15] techrightssec2 mark a URL unread once it has been read.

[12:15] schestowitz-TR i quite like how, more so lately, rss is in headlines

[12:15] schestowitz-TR esp. on blogs, not msm

[12:15] schestowitz-TR how to make social control media based on rss

[12:15] schestowitz-TR how to manage it

[12:15] schestowitz-TR why use rss

[12:15] schestowitz-TR that's a refreshing thing

[12:15] schestowitz-TR social control media is inhernely an attack on rss

[12:15] schestowitz-TR they promise the do the same

[12:15] schestowitz-TR but the masters are the miam

[12:15] schestowitz-TR messing about with what you cannot and won't see

[12:16] techrightssec2 Yes and more sites are clearly labeling the Atom or RSS feeds which they have.

[12:16] techrightssec2 Many of those that do not have the feeds can add them very easily through

[12:16] techrightssec2 their CMS.

[12:19] schestowitz-TR it's a shame that bakersoft, a gulag subsidiary, won't restore

[12:19] schestowitz-TR 1) hot bookmarks or live bookmarks

[12:19] schestowitz-TR 2) auto highlightingg, once a page is visited, where the RRS feed is

[12:19] schestowitz-TR 3) proper parsing of xml/atom/rss objects

[12:19] schestowitz-TR they fucked up all 3 intentionally

[12:19] schestowitz-TR gulag reader ran at a oss to kill the rivals, like feedlounger

[12:19] schestowitz-TR than it shut down

[12:19] schestowitz-TR self-destructed

[12:19] schestowitz-TR same for feedburder

[12:19] schestowitz-TR the WARNING is in thje NAMER ;)

[12:19] schestowitz-TR BURNER!!

[12:22] schestowitz-TR (sorry for typos)

[12:22] schestowitz-TR btw, gulagtube is not enterring the territory of morality police more and more

[12:22] schestowitz-TR vaccine science... banned

[12:22] schestowitz-TR sexy stuff.... banned

[12:22] schestowitz-TR linux... demonetised or suspended... kodi is PIRACY!!!

[12:22] schestowitz-TR they are doing a musk, gravitating towards msm

[12:22] schestowitz-TR sexy is OK, if it is mainstream

[12:22] schestowitz-TR like black women in thongs "shakin' their booty" on some bouncing vehicle

[12:22] schestowitz-TR morality police, soon qataer and mbs might offer to 'cushion' the losses in gulagtube*

[12:22] schestowitz-TR ___

[12:22] schestowitz-TR * conditions apply

[12:23] techrightssec2 If one were suspicious, that kind of method worked well to harm RSS/Atom usage.

[12:23] techrightssec2 by centralizing the service so that the alternatives die off or are abandoned

[12:23] techrightssec2 and then once the competition is gone pull the plug. GM and Firestone did

[12:23] techrightssec2 that to the streetcars in the US a long while back.

[12:23] techrightssec2 ack

[12:24] schestowitz-TR we cannot prove that the war on rss was orchetrated like this

[12:24] schestowitz-TR rather, more plausible, they had another vision

[12:24] schestowitz-TR and promoted this

[12:24] schestowitz-TR like that POS "pocket" from mozilla

[12:24] schestowitz-TR telling you what to read and tracking firefox users

[12:24] schestowitz-TR see their very latest blog posts

[12:24] schestowitz-TR they don't even hide the spying

[12:24] schestowitz-TR they boast about it

[12:24] schestowitz-TR f* mozill

[12:24] schestowitz-TR move to librewolf

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[12:42] techrightssec2 Either would be a possibile motive but there is insufficient data to prefer

[12:42] techrightssec2 one explanation over the other at this point. Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malic

[12:42] techrightssec2 e. :/

[12:42] techrightssec2 Which institution granted m$ the sw patent on ANS-Coding used in JPEG XL ?

[12:42] techrightssec2 Was it USPTO or EPO ?

[12:44] schestowitz-TR wasn't and the controversial thing duda (polish prof) complained about?

[12:44] schestowitz-TR you might want to lookm into it

[12:44] schestowitz-TR TR wote about it sveeral times

[12:44] schestowitz-TR we even spoke to duda many times

[12:44] techrightssec2 Yes his approach was to complain to Google to get them to back off but then

[12:44] techrightssec2 m$ just went and submitted a copy of the application somewhere and ignored

[12:44] techrightssec2 him.

[12:44] techrightssec2 Which institution granted m$ the sw patent on ANS-Coding used in JPEG XL ?

[12:44] techrightssec2 Can Duda recall which institution, EPO or USPTO, it was which granted the patent?

[12:45] schestowitz-TR uspto iirc

[12:46] schestowitz-TR look up 'dude theregister 2020' (ish)

[12:46] schestowitz-TR *duda

[12:46] schestowitz-TR maybe arsetechnically pedo also covered that around the same year (from memory)

[12:48] techrightssec2 Features Of Range Asymmetric Number System Encoding And Decoding

[12:48] techrightssec2 PATENT NUMBER: 11234023; DOCUMENT ID: US 11234023 B2; DATE PUBLISHED: 2022-01-25

[12:48] techrightssec2 USPTO

[12:48] techrightssec2 Not possible to link to the USPTO's database, their web "app" is a javascript

[12:48] techrightssec2 abomination and not an actual useful site or web page.

[12:48] techrightssec2 The front end is /only/ a "web app" and not possible to bookmark or link to.

[12:48] schestowitz-TR iirc, it is java at the back end

[12:48] schestowitz-TR unless they have changed that

[12:48] schestowitz-TR and they gave that away in the url structure, which is bad practice

[12:49] techrightssec2 The web "app" even captures the mouse buttons, preventing their function.

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[13:02] techrightssec2 Anyway, looking at the old TR link lists, the topic was not linked to much

[13:02] techrightssec2 so perhaps in light of recent maneuvers by Google and M$ it could be a

[13:02] techrightssec2 topic to cover again?

[13:02] techrightssec2 The patent number and such is "new" information.

[13:05] techrightssec2 Duda developed ANS back in 2007 already.

[13:05] techrightssec2 https://libreplanet.org/2022/speakers/

[13:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-libreplanet.org | LibrePlanet Speakers

[13:06] schestowitz-TR yes, i remember his talk

[13:06] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/28/ans-talk-by-jarek-duda/

[13:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | LibrePlanet 2022 Talk on Software Patent Issues (by Jarek Duda) | Techrights

[13:28] techrightssec2 Yes

[13:28] techrightssec2 The LibrePlanet web site is a bit hard to navigate, with an excessive number

[13:28] techrightssec2 of links and so on, but then TR is no example either.

[13:28] techrightssec2 https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/ans-coding-replacing-huffman-and-ac-from-introduction-to-patent-iss

[13:28] techrightssec2 ues/

[13:28] techrightssec2 At about 21:30 he starts to address the sw patents.

[13:28] techrightssec2 At about 35:50 he talks about defending against those who copy-pasta public code

[13:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 308 @ https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/ans-coding-replacing-huffman-and-ac-from-introduction-to-patent-iss )

[13:28] techrightssec2 and use that for a patent

[13:37] techrightssec2 The interviewer doesnt understand patents and talks about implementations as

[13:37] techrightssec2 if it were a matter of copyright instead

[13:37] techrightssec2 That misunderstanding persists globally.

[13:37] techrightssec2 ^ topic ?

[13:45] techrightssec2 The sound quality is worse than dreadful however

[13:46] schestowitz-TR contents should matter more than quality of equipment

[13:49] techrightssec2 Below a certain threshold, which in this case was crossed, the content is no

[13:49] techrightssec2 longer accessible in practice

[13:49] techrightssec2 The sound quality was so poor that most of the words were unintelligible.

[13:51] techrightssec2 Perhaps some filtering with Audacity or similar might help but few are going

[13:51] techrightssec2 to go through the trouble

[13:51] techrightssec2 It is ironic that a talk about lossless compression should be rendered

[13:51] techrightssec2 unusable by lossy compression.

[13:51] techrightssec2 .

● Dec 17

[14:00] schestowitz-TR there ios an interesting discussion atm in irc (tr) re rss vs email vs fedi vs twitter

[14:00] schestowitz-TR but that sort of goes around in circles

[14:00] schestowitz-TR atm, the topology of the net is a joke

[14:00] schestowitz-TR you have "gadget holders" connecting to just one domain

[14:00] schestowitz-TR say, tiktok

[14:00] schestowitz-TR and that domain then governs all the others

[14:00] schestowitz-TR a device should be accessing thousands of domains each day

[14:00] schestowitz-TR and now rely on one being a sieve

[14:01] techrightssec2 ack

[14:01] techrightssec2 s/tiktok/bytedance/

[14:01] techrightssec2 ack

[14:01] schestowitz-TR you called that chokepoint a very, veyr long time ago

[14:01] schestowitz-TR now that also applied to person-to-person comms

[14:01] schestowitz-TR not just broadcasting (news etc)

[14:01] schestowitz-TR "mega-aggragators"

[14:03] schestowitz-TR I think beign IN a planet

[14:03] schestowitz-TR is a risk

[14:03] schestowitz-TR not just FOLLOWING one

[14:03] schestowitz-TR because peoplke wrongl;y assume they already follow you

[14:03] schestowitz-TR until someone gets in the middle

[14:03] schestowitz-TR and severs the wire

[14:03] techrightssec2 ack

[14:27] schestowitz-TR "If you can avoid COVID, avoid COVID. Its probably not worth doing whatever it was that got you infected." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/12/17/still-alive-after-the-month-of-hell-covid-and-shingles/

[14:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | Still alive after the month of Hell. (COVID and Shingles) | BaronHK's Rants

[14:32] techrightssec2 ack

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[17:34] schestowitz-TR just book a migration to fibreoptics feb 1st

[17:34] schestowitz-TR this time they do it right

[17:34] schestowitz-TR underground

[17:34] schestowitz-TR not all over people's homes

[17:34] schestowitz-TR they dug it up and the lines are underground

[17:34] schestowitz-TR the connection will be 20 times faster up

[17:34] schestowitz-TR and 7.5 times faster down

[17:34] techrightssec2 \

[17:34] techrightssec2 Hopefully so.

[17:34] schestowitz-TR can be 15 times faster for extra charge, but I opted out

[17:34] schestowitz-TR not sure how reliable it'll be

[17:34] schestowitz-TR but I can be refunded within 2 or 4 weeks

[17:38] schestowitz-TR it'll be 6 pounds a monthless than what I pay now

[17:38] schestowitz-TR anyway, good way to start my 'sabattical' year

[17:38] schestowitz-TR *bbatrical

[17:38] schestowitz-TR draft

[17:38] schestowitz-TR after 26 years of non-stop employment almost

[17:40] techrightssec2 I expect the reliability and connectivity will be more stable but the speed

[17:40] techrightssec2 will be less noticed since so many web sites have devolved into crappy, slow

[17:40] techrightssec2 web "apps" with several layers of up to dozens of objects mostly retrieved

[17:40] techrightssec2 in serial.

[17:40] techrightssec2 Yes. A sabbatical is a good way to look at it.

[17:40] techrightssec2 With web "apps" no amount of bandwidth on your part will speed up the subjective

[17:40] techrightssec2 experience. But there will be a lot of other smaller benefits.

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