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[07:10] schestowitz-TR In the Age of Misleading Media (the System Relies on Induced Optimism) One Must Check Medical Facts for Oneself https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/17/medical-facts/

[07:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive In the Age of Misleading Media (the System Relies on Induced Optimism) One Must Check Medical Facts for Oneself

[07:52] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.pussthecat.org/MarkBeacham/status/1615154394764394497#m

[07:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Mark Beacham - VK3XB/5Z4XB/A65B (@MarkBeacham): "Ham Radio: Links 16/01/2023: Microsoft RNDIS Ejected From Linux https://ift.tt/mQiNhXz" | Nitter | PussTheCat.org

[07:52] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.pussthecat.org/luicito_chavez/status/1615220244431396865#m

[07:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Luicito Chavez (@luicito_chavez): "techrights.org/author/schest" | Nitter | PussTheCat.org

[07:52] techrigthssec ack

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● Jan 17

[08:09] schestowitz-TR had a productive night so far

[08:09] schestowitz-TR ons #s will be out soon

[08:09] techrigthssec ack

[08:09] schestowitz-TR I want to compare those to prior years

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[08:37] schestowitz-TR seems like good news if idg cans its old sites

[08:37] schestowitz-TR for all i care, can all the old "content" too

[08:37] schestowitz-TR lots of crap in there

[08:37] schestowitz-TR better buried

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[09:09] schestowitz-TR my open office (two words) experience was so shit that I promised myself never to do it

[09:09] schestowitz-TR it's bad for many things inc. health

[09:20] techrigthssec There are countless studies showing that open plan office spaces are dreadful

[09:20] techrigthssec for both morale and for productivity

[09:20] schestowitz-TR they help create and cement BS jobs

[09:21] techrigthssec and, as you point out, health (through stress and germs)\

[09:21] techrigthssec That's the main reason they are in use still even a little bit.

[09:23] schestowitz-TR people who insist they are OK "working at the office"

[09:23] schestowitz-TR typially turn out to be foxes in the vineyard

[09:23] schestowitz-TR the grapes are sour anyway

[09:23] schestowitz-TR iow, they're not given a choice

[09:23] schestowitz-TR they must be at the office x days

[09:25] schestowitz-TR perhaps today many at microsoft will be given indefinite "sick leave"

[09:25] schestowitz-TR no pay, don't bother coming back

[09:25] techrigthssec or unpaid "leave"

[09:26] schestowitz-TR no kidding, intel ireland did it blatantly and openly months ago

[09:26] schestowitz-TR HR gettinc "creative"

[09:52] techrigthssec gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/17/rebranding-plagiarism-as-hey-hi/

[09:52] techrigthssec who is the quote in the summary from ?

[09:52] techrigthssec tm-new gallery updated

[09:53] techrigthssec bread crumb links modified this time

[09:53] techrigthssec nft -f /etc/nftables.nft to clear the black list

● Jan 17

[10:11] schestowitz-TR Enquiry Sent to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) Regarding 'Missing' Deaths in the United Kingdom https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/17/office-for-national-statistics-enquiry/

[10:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Enquiry Sent to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) Regarding Missing Deaths in the United Kingdom

[10:13] schestowitz-TR fantastic work on tuxgallery

[10:13] schestowitz-TR so far no errors encountered!

[10:13] schestowitz-TR the 'tux museum' will be cheaper to keep alive this way

[10:31] schestowitz-TR In 2023, England and Wales Deaths More Than 22% Higher Than Pre-COVID-19 Levels https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/17/2023-and-pre-covid-19-levels/

[10:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive In 2023, England and Wales Deaths More Than 22% Higher Than Pre-COVID-19 Levels

[10:49] schestowitz-TR Week 1 Deaths in England and Wales: In 2023 a 31.2% Increase in Deaths for People Aged 15-44, 27% Increase in Deaths for People Aged 45-64 (Compared to Pre-COVID) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/17/ons-week-1-deaths-england-and-wales-by-age/

[10:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Week 1 Deaths in England and Wales: In 2023 a 31.2% Increase in Deaths for People Aged 15-44, 27% Increase in Deaths for People Aged 45-64 (Compared to Pre-COVID)

● Jan 17

[11:29] schestowitz-TR twitter needs a a boycott already. let it collapse. https://www.commondreams.org/news/covid-19-drugmaker-pushed-twitter-to-censor-activists-demanding-generic-vaccine | Source: Common Dreams

[11:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | 'Deeply Sinister': Emails Reveal Big Pharma Pushed Twitter to Silence Vaccine Equity Voices

● Jan 17

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[13:45] techrigthssec There are some redundant files to trim from it now but that can be done in

[13:45] techrigthssec a while

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● Jan 17

[14:09] schestowitz-TR just had a discussion about quitting things

[14:09] schestowitz-TR we are now 100% mumble

[14:09] schestowitz-TR rianne 100% veg

[14:09] schestowitz-TR i'm 100% off social control media

[14:09] schestowitz-TR and stopped with football cold turkey

[14:09] schestowitz-TR there are other examples

[14:09] schestowitz-TR but with gulag noise I still check sometimes

[14:09] schestowitz-TR e.g. msft layoffs

[14:09] schestowitz-TR just updated a post of mine

[14:09] schestowitz-TR now I'm 90%+ sure it's happening

[14:09] schestowitz-TR azure might be impacted too

[14:10] schestowitz-TR "eskiko" was shilling azure BS in IRC today

[14:10] schestowitz-TR I was not happy about gut feeling rather than facts re azure

[14:21] techrigthssec Great, though confirming the layoffs first is important. However they'kk

[14:21] techrigthssec do what they can to hide and misdirect and delay.

[14:21] schestowitz-TR they know it damages morale

[14:21] schestowitz-TR so we need to keep at it

[14:24] psydruid hence all this PR about HEY HI

[14:25] psydruid to mask the fact that Azure is not doing well

[14:25] psydruid and many people are getting fired

[14:27] schestowitz-TR right

[14:27] techrigthssec It also damages their share prices which they then have to spend/embezzle

[14:27] techrigthssec even more funds to pump up artificially when they do the "share repurchase"

[14:37] techrigthssec The have spare resources for playing with AI through the severely overprovisioned "Azure" hosting which is substa

[14:37] techrigthssec ntially devoid of paying clients.

[14:37] techrigthssec It's probably costing them more than they can afford to have all that

[14:37] techrigthssec dead servers space going to waste so they might as well run ML algorithms on

[14:37] techrigthssec it and try to spin that as a positive in the PR and among their shills.

[14:38] schestowitz-TR they already shut down some datacentres

[14:38] schestowitz-TR but the media picked up on this

[14:38] schestowitz-TR and it made azure look like the failure it is

[14:38] schestowitz-TR they also frantically came to our irc chat

[14:38] schestowitz-TR after we had written repeatedly about azure layoffs

[14:39] schestowitz-TR to downplay what's happening

[14:39] schestowitz-TR lewis wrote some articles on the failure that is azure

[14:39] schestowitz-TR based on insiders

[14:39] schestowitz-TR so azure has, in effect, been converted into a plagiarism machine

[14:39] schestowitz-TR pay your subscription fees to do your plagiarism with Microsoft's help

[14:39] schestowitz-TR text... images... code

[14:39] schestowitz-TR plagiarism as a service as I call it

[14:39] schestowitz-TR the new ebuzz video mentions the media bias and omission of class action lawsuiot

[14:39] schestowitz-TR there is now a new lawsuit over copyrights in image "HEY HI"

[14:39] schestowitz-TR basically sites that help create "derivatives" of artists' good work

[14:59] techrigthssec The eBuzz video nails the problem, no mainstream media at all has raised any

[14:59] techrigthssec of the key issues.

● Jan 17

[15:02] schestowitz-TR it took me a bit of time to realise all this fake hype is part of a PR campaign

[15:02] schestowitz-TR one mainly one company

[15:02] schestowitz-TR like with "github", they hide behind other brands

[15:02] schestowitz-TR musk said on the recdord that 'open HEY HI had been hijacked by MSFT years ago

[15:02] schestowitz-TR as if "HEY HI" was a nnew thing

[15:02] schestowitz-TR money buys perception

[15:02] schestowitz-TR look up "SCIGEN"

[15:02] schestowitz-TR circa 2004

[15:02] schestowitz-TR now they say things like "Office" will have this HEY HI

[15:02] schestowitz-TR and "Bing"

[15:02] schestowitz-TR "HEY HI"

[15:02] schestowitz-TR try it out!!! HEY HI

[15:02] schestowitz-TR Bing having layoffs

[15:02] schestowitz-TR pixie dust "HEY HI"

[15:02] schestowitz-TR even nadella's head will have HEY HI

[15:02] schestowitz-TR of course schneier had to massively participate in the hype campaign

[15:02] schestowitz-TR maybe without realising he had been taken for a ride by conde nasty [sic] i.e. microsoft

[15:02] schestowitz-TR sam varghese wrote about this fake hype 2 days ago

[15:08] techrigthssec Oh. I may have missed Sam's article, since ITWire doesn't get checked so often

[15:08] techrigthssec any more.

[15:08] schestowitz-TR he barely published anything anymore, like it's "seasonal"

[15:10] schestowitz-TR sam quoted an aexpert responding to microsoft bullshit that had been relayed by MS Schneier, iirc via

[15:10] schestowitz-TR Conde Nasty

[15:10] schestowitz-TR he links a lot to Conde and "new" Slashdot

[15:10] schestowitz-TR tons of crap

[15:10] schestowitz-TR I sigh a lot when seeing him posting new stuff

[15:10] schestowitz-TR now he's shilling his book that perpetuates myths about "hacker"

[15:12] techrigthssec Slashdot turned to crap after the first sale and still managed to go downhill

[15:12] techrigthssec from there.

[15:13] techrigthssec I guess it's owned by BIZX last I can tell. Dice and Conde Nast

[15:13] techrigthssec did their damage and kicked it down the road.

[15:14] schestowitz-TR are you sure conde nasty owned it?

[15:14] techrigthssec Not sure if I recall correctly

[15:15] schestowitz-TR i think that is not correct

[15:16] schestowitz-TR but dice i remember, now it's this guy logan

[15:16] schestowitz-TR who came to TR IRC

[15:16] schestowitz-TR to try to coivince us things would improve and wanted to make a good first impression

[15:16] schestowitz-TR i think dice was even worse tbh

[15:16] schestowitz-TR they activbely promoted gates lies

[15:16] schestowitz-TR and even employed microsoft moles

[15:16] techrigthssec Conde Nast still owns Ars Technica and what remains of Wired

[15:18] techrigthssec and "Reddit"

[15:18] techrigthssec At least one m$ shill seems to have been planted in Slashdot prior to the

[15:18] techrigthssec sale to Dice, if I recall the timing correctly. It certainly was under

[15:18] techrigthssec attack then

[15:20] schestowitz-TR conde used New Yorker to compel 'L'F to put Torvalds in the clinic

[15:20] schestowitz-TR they 'settled' on that

[15:20] schestowitz-TR after crazy scum mjg and his other ilk of crzzied kept libeling the man who wanted

[15:20] schestowitz-TR to keep quality control and goals in check

[15:22] schestowitz-TR RebeccaBlackOS is hardly used by anyone. Larabel uses that to shill crappy Wayland. Hey, RebeccaBlackOS doesn't need to worry about stability and compatibility. It's a JOKE distro. For JOKERS like Phorpnix. https://www.phoronix.com/news/RBOS-January-2023

[15:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-RBOS Updated As The Linux Live Environment Showcasing The Latest Wayland Code - Phoronix

[15:23] techrigthssec It was the New Yorker article which set off the lynch mob in earnest wasn't it.

[15:24] schestowitz-TR a

[15:24] schestowitz-TR s people pointed out in LWN, New Yorker demanded action BEFORE publication

[15:24] schestowitz-TR then LF agreed to put aside Torvalds

[15:24] schestowitz-TR hence, the headline at the New Yorker reported the "outcome"

[15:24] schestowitz-TR so it was a work behing the scene

[15:24] schestowitz-TR to get Torvalds "fired"

[15:24] schestowitz-TR familiar?

[15:24] schestowitz-TR dirt digging

[15:26] schestowitz-TR LT became sacrificial lamb for LF

[15:26] schestowitz-TR to "protect" its (Microsoft) brand

[15:26] schestowitz-TR LF does not value the person who made the "L"

[15:26] schestowitz-TR unless he conforms e.g. rust (github/google)

[15:26] schestowitz-TR nwo there is very little resistance to lockdown and palladium inside linux

[15:26] schestowitz-TR don't expect LT to act better than tim bl on DRM

[15:27] techrigthssec scape goat actually

[15:27] techrigthssec He remains only as a mascot, if one goes by appearances

[15:34] psydruid Gates is the master and Torvalds the puppet, at last

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[21:35] schestowitz-TR we've been getting perl errors, both accounts, when trying to add or update TM

[21:35] schestowitz-TR was anything changed on the system?

[21:35] schestowitz-TR it says it lacks the Capture/Tiny.pm module

[21:35] schestowitz-TR fixed with apk add perl-capture-tiny

[21:36] schestowitz-TR did you change something a few hours ago (around 7pm GMT)?

● Jan 17

[22:25] schestowitz-TR psydruid: MSFT layoffs

[22:25] schestowitz-TR think of that as a treat

[22:25] schestowitz-TR they're hurting

[22:25] schestowitz-TR let's do another round

[22:25] psydruid the more layoffs the better

[22:25] schestowitz-TR until there's no Microsoft left or very little

[22:25] psydruid until all employees have been laid off

[22:25] schestowitz-TR yeah, more is better

[22:25] schestowitz-TR then, if Microsoft is busted, they cannot spread windows either

[22:26] psydruid and the leadership has kicked the curb

[22:26] schestowitz-TR no microsoft crap left to spread to company

[22:26] schestowitz-TR companies, unis, etc.

[22:26] psydruid the single most malicious company ever

[22:26] schestowitz-TR no github :-)

[22:26] schestowitz-TR offline

[22:26] schestowitz-TR "BUT ME REPOS!!!"

[22:26] psydruid probably even worse than IBM in its reach

[22:26] schestowitz-TR "BUT MY LIKES/STARS!!"

[22:27] psydruid because there weren't as many computers during IBM's heyday

[22:27] schestowitz-TR "oh noes; azure is shutting down like codeplex"

[22:27] psydruid and there were more companies that competed with one another

[22:27] schestowitz-TR yeah

[22:27] schestowitz-TR concentration of power is always harmful

[22:27] psydruid most of them with their own Unix variant

[22:28] schestowitz-TR they don't need to compete as much

[22:28] psydruid Microsoft has really caused a race to the bottom

[22:28] psydruid in terms of everything to do with IT and CS

[22:29] schestowitz-TR exactly

[22:29] schestowitz-TR we've discussed it here in IRC

[22:29] schestowitz-TR that's not to say that no microsoft-> utopia

[22:29] schestowitz-TR we'll still have other perils

[22:29] schestowitz-TR but MSFT being like Novell (defunct) would be a step in the right direction

[22:29] schestowitz-TR esp. for GNU/Linux

[22:29] schestowitz-TR and FOSS

[22:30] schestowitz-TR because only one company attacks those THAT much

[22:30] psydruid without Microsoft sabotage and distraction constructive work can be done again

[22:30] schestowitz-TR yes, but there will be other barriers

[22:30] schestowitz-TR the other obstacles may included Gulag

[22:30] schestowitz-TR Gulag also doe snot like GPL

[22:30] psydruid Gulag is fortunately peripheral to most end user computing

[22:31] schestowitz-TR either way, today/tomorrow will be a good milestone

[22:31] psydruid and doesn't own GNU or Linux

[22:31] schestowitz-TR now I want to know what divisions are cut the most

[22:31] schestowitz-TR azure? github?

[22:31] psydruid no single company does

[22:31] schestowitz-TR windows?

[22:31] schestowitz-TR we'll find out soon

[22:31] psydruid hopefully all of them all of the time

[22:32] schestowitz-TR it's a momentum thing

[22:32] schestowitz-TR once you cut it gets worse

[22:32] schestowitz-TR like, fire windows devs

[22:32] schestowitz-TR and Windows Update introduces more bugs

[22:32] schestowitz-TR so people cannot reboot

[22:32] schestowitz-TR or lose file

[22:32] schestowitz-TR and that leds Windows down some death spiral

[22:32] schestowitz-TR if the corrupt media will start covering GNU/Linux

[22:32] schestowitz-TR instead of pretending the choice is about WHICH VERSIOn of Windows

[22:33] psydruid what made it clear to me that there is no way back is that the various incarnations of Windows Phone are dead and buried

[22:33] psydruid if it was so easy they could have just recompiled all applications and owned the "smartphone" market too

[22:34] schestowitz-TR microsoft seldom announes something is dead

[22:34] schestowitz-TR with atom editor they said "sunsetting"

[22:34] psydruid but they were greedy and paranoid so they launched several incompatible versions

[22:34] schestowitz-TR silverlight, zune....

[22:34] psydruid they should have stuck with a pure ARM port of desktop Windows

[22:35] schestowitz-TR msft layoffs bad news for amd and intel

[22:35] psydruid but their stupidity is our gain

[22:35] schestowitz-TR bad news for larabel

[22:36] psydruid once you have applications running on your operating system it becomes a juggernaut

[22:36] psydruid which is why free software is unstoppable

[22:36] psydruid everything gets updates to work together all the time

[22:37] psydruid larabel will cling to ARM or whatever replaces Intel and AMD

[22:41] schestowitz-TR anyway, just told rianne

[22:41] schestowitz-TR she is happy about this whole thing

[22:41] schestowitz-TR "good job, lads!"

[22:41] schestowitz-TR let's do another round of demolition at Microsoft

[22:42] psydruid https://illumos.org/docs/contributing/qds/

[22:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-illumos.org | Quality Death Spiral - illumos

[22:42] schestowitz-TR psydruid: larabel is already in deep s***

[22:42] schestowitz-TR if you check his appeals for money

[22:42] schestowitz-TR as it's harder to break even with these energy prices

[22:43] schestowitz-TR i need phoronix... for links about kernel dev

[22:43] schestowitz-TR just the links

[22:43] schestowitz-TR as nobody else daoes that

[22:43] schestowitz-TR 15 years ago a site called KernelTrap did that

[22:43] schestowitz-TR it requires deepm kernel knowledge

[22:43] schestowitz-TR LWN is not very active

[22:43] psydruid if you sell out like he has done and you still can't pay the bills, you may be doing something wrong

[22:43] schestowitz-TR maybe an article per day only

[22:44] psydruid I don't really follow LWN or Phoronix for kernel stuff

[22:44] psydruid I read the O'Reilly books about 15 years ago

[22:44] psydruid I need to read modern ones

[22:45] psydruid to get an idea of the current state

[22:45] schestowitz-TR linux is... weird

[22:45] schestowitz-TR let me explain

[22:45] schestowitz-TR linux has a "core"

[22:45] schestowitz-TR that is not THAT big

[22:45] schestowitz-TR they cull old code

[22:45] schestowitz-TR but a lot of the code is vendor-specific

[22:46] schestowitz-TR and nobody except one or few companies know it

[22:46] schestowitz-TR so something like schedular evolves

[22:46] schestowitz-TR but a lot of the code is in things like massive drivers for GPUs

[22:46] schestowitz-TR *scheduler

[22:46] schestowitz-TR so you never really know "Linux"

[22:46] schestowitz-TR then you have massive drivers for hypervisors

[22:47] psydruid you can only know a part of Linux and then it keeps moving forward (or backward)

[22:51] schestowitz-TR yes, notice con kolivas is no longer bothering

[22:51] schestowitz-TR he said it had grown too big

[22:52] psydruid I don't bother, even though I know my way around the code

[22:52] psydruid and I have no plans to take up a Linux kernel developer job

[22:53] psydruid even though ARM offered me one a few years ago to work on Linux/KVM

[22:54] psydruid there is just too much BS going around in that community

[22:55] schestowitz-TR not sure

[22:55] schestowitz-TR it can pay well

[22:55] schestowitz-TR and if you like c, it's not a bad career=

[22:56] schestowitz-TR linux won't go away any time soon

[22:56] schestowitz-TR I could probably become a linux developers

[22:56] schestowitz-TR because it's in c

[22:56] psydruid I'm not interested

[22:56] schestowitz-TR but... steep learning curve

[22:56] schestowitz-TR git mailing lists, structure, APIs

[22:56] schestowitz-TR and even then your patches might be considered "risky"

[22:56] schestowitz-TR and thus not pushed

[22:57] schestowitz-TR so you can spend months working on just a patch ~1000 lines of code

[22:57] schestowitz-TR testing and refining it

[22:57] psydruid just too much red tape for me to feel productive

[22:57] schestowitz-TR at that point,

[22:57] schestowitz-TR several linux releases were out

[22:57] schestowitz-TR like 6.0, 6.1

[22:57] schestowitz-TR with "rust now available"

[22:57] schestowitz-TR so you're always chasing yesterday's kernel

[22:58] schestowitz-TR and your code becomes obsolete a few years later

[22:58] psydruid but it might be a good job for you, if you are interested

[22:58] psydruid I think you just focus on a specific subsystem

[22:59] psydruid and yes, it will become obsolete and be in need of updating

[22:59] psydruid but that's what you get paid for

● Jan 17

[23:00] psydruid I might end up at CapGemini in the short term while working on my plans for the longer term

[23:01] schestowitz-TR arm had MANY layofgs

[23:01] psydruid I've finally been seriouslu learning web programming for the past few days on freecodecamp.org

[23:01] schestowitz-TR one third iirc

[23:01] schestowitz-TR *layoffs

[23:01] psydruid seriously*

[23:02] psydruid that's why I learned ARM assembly and immediately after RISC-V

[23:03] psydruid now anything I write for ARM I port it to RISC-V soon after

[23:04] schestowitz-TR iirc, that codecamp has microsoft boosters

[23:04] schestowitz-TR if that's the site i removed from rss

[23:04] psydruid the biggest burden will be porting things back to x86

[23:04] psydruid probably

[23:04] psydruid but I'm concerned about learning stuff, I couldn't care much about the site itself

[23:05] psydruid so far I haven't come across anything Microsoft-specific

[23:06] schestowitz-TR Larabel: AMD is sending me dozens of expensive CPUs (list here is just Ryzen series, not EPYC) https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-core-i5-13400/2

[23:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Intel Core i5 13400 Linux Performance - Raptor Lake 10 Cores / 16 Threads For $239 Review - Phoronix

[23:06] schestowitz-TR maybe they sent him over 100 by now

[23:06] schestowitz-TR but EPYC is the jewel

[23:07] schestowitz-TR sure, overpriced

[23:07] schestowitz-TR but you can offload them in ebay for 5k apiece

[23:07] schestowitz-TR and I doubt he truly needs that many

[23:07] psydruid the jewel of the nile

[23:07] schestowitz-TR AMD reckons it's cheap to send loads of these

[23:07] schestowitz-TR then he starts peddling AMD Pluton

[23:07] schestowitz-TR and clown

[23:07] psydruid maybe no one else wants them

[23:07] schestowitz-TR (azure)

[23:08] schestowitz-TR yes, they are overpriced

[23:08] psydruid AMD and Intel are caught in between

[23:08] schestowitz-TR maybe they have excess stock now

[23:08] psydruid lots of competitors are coming up now

[23:08] schestowitz-TR as a business, I'd not spend $10,000 just for a CPU

[23:08] schestowitz-TR even 120+ cores

[23:09] psydruid they're essentially a legacy product for running an obsolete and irrelevant operating system

[23:09] schestowitz-TR i worked with companies that had CPUs like these

[23:09] schestowitz-TR and like 90% of the time nothing runs on them

[23:09] schestowitz-TR overprovisioned to the extreme

[23:09] schestowitz-TR and if they run something they need fast

[23:09] schestowitz-TR it might finish minutes/hours later

[23:10] schestowitz-TR then idling for a day

[23:10] schestowitz-TR so it's uneconomic

[23:10] schestowitz-TR better to have several low powered machines

[23:10] schestowitz-TR you can turn them off when you don't need them

[23:10] psydruid people will need fewer and fewer of them

[23:10] schestowitz-TR last year I started to turn off my screens when afk

[23:10] schestowitz-TR due to rising costs of energy

[23:10] psydruid that's what I do at home

[23:10] psydruid when I don't need much -> ARM

[23:11] psydruid when I need more compute power -> x86 laptop (up to 3/4)

[23:12] psydruid in the clown they are supposed to run at 90% capacity at all time

[23:14] psydruid they can ask $10,000 due to monopoly rents

[23:14] psydruid as was mentioned earlier here

[23:15] schestowitz-TR right

[23:15] psydruid when they have to compete on equal footing prices will have to drop

[23:15] schestowitz-TR they might say "R&d"

[23:15] schestowitz-TR code for "patents"

[23:15] schestowitz-TR or ripoff

[23:15] psydruid GNU/Linux is the big equaliser

[23:15] schestowitz-TR but those dies don't cost much to make

[23:15] schestowitz-TR they overcharge

[23:15] schestowitz-TR and with so many cores I'd struggle to find use

[23:15] schestowitz-TR even video processing

[23:15] schestowitz-TR you finish faster

[23:15] schestowitz-TR and then what???

[23:15] schestowitz-TR I run ffmpeg nice'd

[23:16] psydruid I would only ever buy and run one for a private clown

[23:16] schestowitz-TR my PCs are under-utilised already

[23:16] schestowitz-TR atm I use 4 of them

[23:16] psydruid to let many developers and users access it at the same time

[23:16] schestowitz-TR with 8 screens

[23:16] schestowitz-TR with two raspi working in the background

[23:16] schestowitz-TR one does almost nothing

[23:16] schestowitz-TR shows weather and recipes

[23:18] schestowitz-TR Phoronix is an Apple site today? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Apple-M2-Pro-M2-Max relevance to Linux? NOTHING.

[23:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Apple Launches The M2 Pro & M2 Max + New Mac Mini With M2 / M2 Pro - Phoronix

[23:19] psydruid I bought a cheap used Sun SPARC rack server years ago for testing Linux at about the same time I bought my first ARM SBC and an old Powermac G5

[23:20] psydruid after a few years all that expensive hardware ends up on eBay

[23:22] schestowitz-TR i no longer use arm on here

[23:22] schestowitz-TR the arm machine I gave to rianne

[23:22] schestowitz-TR she uses two arm machines now

[23:22] schestowitz-TR i used to have 5 laptops here

[23:22] schestowitz-TR now it's done to 4, with 8 screens, not 9 or 10

[23:22] schestowitz-TR it was too much anyway

[23:22] schestowitz-TR I consolidated a bit

[23:23] schestowitz-TR rianne now uses 3 machines, I use 4+1 (pi)

[23:23] schestowitz-TR and the power bills are not insane at all

[23:24] psydruid power consumption is one of the main criteria now

[23:25] psydruid I optimize for that when the performance is already adequate

[23:25] schestowitz-TR we even pay less than before

[23:25] schestowitz-TR because of the gov. scheme

[23:25] schestowitz-TR 66 a month

[23:25] psydruid and that will get more important over time

[23:26] schestowitz-TR psydruid: my scarcity is time

[23:26] schestowitz-TR and more screens can save time

[23:26] psydruid I want to minimise my bills and get the best performance while doing so

[23:26] schestowitz-TR so I don't need to move between virtual desktops

[23:26] schestowitz-TR CPU power is not the scarcity

[23:26] schestowitz-TR video processing is the only very heavy task here

[23:27] schestowitz-TR takes up maybe 1-2 hours per day on just one machine

[23:27] schestowitz-TR and next month we should get fibre

[23:27] psydruid if I do need more performance I start one of the fast laptops

[23:32] schestowitz-TR 20 years ago with fedora and suse... wake on lan

[23:32] schestowitz-TR with sleep or hibernationm

[23:32] schestowitz-TR so you can access lab machines overnight

[23:32] schestowitz-TR using nfs

[23:32] schestowitz-TR and then run simulations on whole clusters of computers

[23:33] schestowitz-TR for the CPU capacity

[23:33] schestowitz-TR was very common even then

[23:33] schestowitz-TR for my phd I needed to run very big jobs

[23:38] psydruid I'll see what I can do in the future

[23:39] psydruid but I don't know what the future will bring