●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 ●●

● Aug 16

[00:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[00:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[01:06] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer)

[01:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[01:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[02:10] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[02:17] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[02:29] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[02:30] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

[02:31] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

[02:31] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[02:51] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

● Aug 16

[03:13] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[03:48] *britney has quit (connection closed)

[03:48] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[04:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[04:59] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[05:49] *britney has quit (connection closed)

[05:49] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[06:01] *Despatche has quit (connection closed)

[06:01] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[06:17] Techrights-sec2 gm

[06:17] Techrights-sec2 there are still some permission problems, perhaps access should be to only

[06:17] Techrights-sec2 the new IP address?

[06:17] Techrights-sec2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166522:

[06:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166522 )

[06:17] Techrights-sec2 2022-08-16 05:10:10 ERROR 403: Forbidden.

[06:17] Techrights-sec2 404 would be the error for deleted nodes I would think

[06:17] Techrights-sec2 403 is an access control list problem

[06:17] Techrights-sec2 The IRC logs from yesterday are not in IPFS :

[06:18] Techrights-sec2 Checking remote server for IPFS logs.

[06:18] Techrights-sec2 cat: /home/links/ipfs/220815.html: No such file or directory

[06:18] schestowitz-TR I am trying to finalise the weget thing atm

[06:18] schestowitz-TR about 4 nodes in the range should return this error because they were delete as dupes or similar

[06:18] schestowitz-TR oh, mea lupa

[06:18] schestowitz-TR short story, the server has an hour off

[06:18] schestowitz-TR so I set it to the wrong time

[06:18] schestowitz-TR running manually now

[06:18] schestowitz-TR *culpa

[06:18] schestowitz-TR re 404/403, I did not dleete but unpublished

[06:18] schestowitz-TR so it's just hiden basically

[06:18] schestowitz-TR *hidden

[06:24] schestowitz-TR ok try again now

[06:24] schestowitz-TR I delayed the testing or the cron job until tomorrow because the time was not set correwctly

[06:24] schestowitz-TR somehow I forgot I'd need to at least run it manually today

[06:25] Techrights-sec2 thanks!

[06:25] Techrights-sec2 tr-new seems to be at the right time

[06:26] schestowitz-TR date says 5:25

[06:26] schestowitz-TR but it is 6:25 here

[06:26] schestowitz-TR utc/bst

[06:27] schestowitz-TR we have 'leap hour' (bsd) here

[06:27] schestowitz-TR *bst

[06:27] schestowitz-TR *dst

[06:27] schestowitz-TR brtish 'summer' time

[06:27] Techrights-sec2 it seems to have trhe right date and time:

[06:27] Techrights-sec2 $ date -u; date

[06:27] Techrights-sec2 Tue Aug 16 05:26:29 UTC 2022

[06:27] Techrights-sec2 oh :/

[06:27] Techrights-sec2 ok

[06:28] schestowitz-TR this might mean I'd need to change the cron jobs absed on the season LOL

[06:30] schestowitz-TR bbl

[06:31] schestowitz-TR (btw, I use the -k option, you ewere right, I checked online, but for some links like images it still uses relative paths, so I am passing some files from

[06:31] schestowitz-TR old to newsd

[06:31] schestowitz-TR *new)

[06:31] schestowitz-TR bbl

[06:54] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

● Aug 16

[07:56] *user021 (~user@56mr8zx47jkey.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[08:08] Techrights-sec2 ok

[08:08] Techrights-sec2 ack

[08:08] Techrights-sec2 re-running the wget script, it's now pulling in additional nodes which were

[08:08] Techrights-sec2 missed before

[08:11] schestowitz-TR I am running the same script also atm, with roy in the filename

[08:11] Techrights-sec2 should I stop the script?

[08:11] Techrights-sec2 * the one I started ?

[08:11] Techrights-sec2 should I stop the script?

[08:11] Techrights-sec2 * the one I started ?

[08:17] schestowitz-TR aaaaahhh, now it makes sense

[08:17] schestowitz-TR I was trying to retrieve objects over http

[08:17] schestowitz-TR in a https request

[08:17] schestowitz see http://news.tuxmachines.org/old/node/166938 http://news.tuxmachines.org/old/node/166939 http://news.tuxmachines.org/old/node/166940 ...

[08:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Missing content type. Ignoring.

[08:19] Techrights-sec2 ack

[08:21] Techrights-sec2 should only https be used to retrieve the TM nodes? wget no longer works

[08:21] Techrights-sec2 with self-vouched-for certificates

[08:25] schestowitz-TR the downloads as they are now seem to work OK

[08:25] schestowitz-TR I'll do a second run later

[08:25] schestowitz-TR and then check the log

[08:25] schestowitz-TR after that redirect those requests

[08:29] Techrights-sec2 ack

[08:31] schestowitz-TR unrelated: on the pi, if ipfs is running, full backup can take about 2 hours

[08:31] schestowitz-TR it takes 40 mins if it's not running

[08:31] schestowitz-TR thanks for the very fine wget script, it'll come in handy later as well

[08:31] schestowitz-TR btw, I've edited the irc post as it had the template stuff left over in tact :-)

[08:31] schestowitz-TR I caught it fast enough

[08:31] Techrights-sec2 np

[08:31] Techrights-sec2 thanks

[08:41] schestowitz-TR there is currenty a mix of files (numbered 16xxxx) from old version and new version

[08:41] schestowitz-TR I'll clear them now and rerun the script

[08:41] schestowitz-TR then do a second pass

[08:41] schestowitz-TR to avoid old and new versions getting mixed up

[08:58] schestowitz-TR the dir "old" is now "old-old"

[08:58] schestowitz-TR I will start a fresh copy to keep is more compact and not a mix of test runs

[08:58] Techrights-sec2 ack

● Aug 16

[09:22] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[09:36] schestowitz x https://www.muylinux.com/2022/08/12/google-microsoft-open-source/

[09:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.muylinux.com | Google supera a Microsoft como "nmero uno" del Open Source

[09:37] schestowitz x https://www.computerworld.com/article/3670077/nvidia-avatars-could-replace-human-speakers.html

[09:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Nvidia: Avatars could replace human speakers | Computerworld

[09:37] schestowitz # enderle

[09:37] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[09:37] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[10:22] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed)

[10:22] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Connection closed)

[10:23] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[10:24] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell

[10:24] *user021 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[10:25] schestowitz-TR so far so mgood

[10:28] schestowitz-TR College Ranking System https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/breaking-ranks-college-colin-diver/ | Source: The Nation

[10:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The Broken College Ranking System | The Nation

[10:48] *user021 (~user@56mr8zx47jkey.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[11:21] schestowitz-TR windows share continues to slide, but don't want to repeat that again, will focus on restoring the old drupal nodes we lost in june

[11:21] schestowitz-TR no bugs noticed in the new CMS, will add some nodes along with rianne soon

[11:21] schestowitz-TR last night she said she added two nodes and did not immediately see them, but when I checked they were fine right there, along with one from marius

[11:21] schestowitz-TR gemini capsule shows as a day-long "sticky" the updated nodes

[11:21] schestowitz-TR those tend to be the "BIG STORIES"... ones that have a lot of coverage and hence many followups

[11:21] schestowitz-TR so this is a big improvement

[11:21] schestowitz-TR as long as the media carries on meanining them, they'll stay near the top

[11:21] schestowitz-TR reducing the chanve that readers lose sight of them

[11:21] schestowitz-TR rianna dn I struggle to finish the food fast enough, but nothing is spoiling, except us

[11:21] schestowitz-TR *rianne and I

[11:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[11:42] *techrights_guest|77 (~75bc0d1f@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[11:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[11:56] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[11:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[12:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[12:32] Techrights-sec2 ack

[12:35] *techrights_guest|77 has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))

[12:44] *techrights_guest|77 (~75bc0d1f@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[13:13] *user021 has quit (connection closed)

[13:13] *user021 (~user@56mr8zx47jkey.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[13:13] *user021 has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)

[13:36] *techrights_guest|77 has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))

[13:41] schestowitz-TR would you say new TM backup regime goes like, gzip /var/www and /home/gemini

[13:41] schestowitz-TR while the DB is put in read-only mode?

[13:41] schestowitz-TR gemini homedir 15mb

[13:41] schestowitz-TR I tag.gz old-old and will put that away

[13:41] schestowitz-TR then /var/www will be about 700MB

[13:41] schestowitz-TR many are files and images imported from old

[13:41] schestowitz-TR old-old is not a compressed file in /home/roy/

[13:41] schestowitz-TR /var/home is 624mb

[13:41] schestowitz-TR /var/www I mean

[13:41] Techrights-sec2 yes that protocol would do the job; though if no one is actively editing

[13:41] Techrights-sec2 the database it can be copied as-is

[13:41] Techrights-sec2 though the source would be /var/www/tuxmachines.org/ not /var/www/

[13:41] Techrights-sec2 for the Web part and /home/gemini/gemini/ for the Gemini part

[13:44] schestowitz-TR by the evening we ought to have all nodes accessible again

[13:44] schestowitz-TR inc. the ones we lost in the DB incidents of June+July

[13:44] schestowitz-TR as you noted, reaching old nodes is very hard

[13:45] Techrights-sec2 ack

[13:49] Techrights-sec2 oops, belay that, around but in and out for a while

[13:49] Techrights-sec2 how many of the nodes harvested via wget are orphans?

[13:50] schestowitz-TR I'd say the opposite -- the ones we get to are not orphans

[13:50] schestowitz-TR all pages are reachable

[13:50] schestowitz-TR but some barely

[13:50] schestowitz-TR wordpress has the same issue

[13:50] schestowitz-TR there are no comprehensive index pages

[13:51] Techrights-sec2 they were only accessible by referencing the URL explicitly; several attempts

[13:51] Techrights-sec2 at spidering did not find them;

[13:52] schestowitz-TR there are monthly archives, links from social control media and irc logs etc.

[13:52] schestowitz-TR but those are not good enough

[13:52] schestowitz-TR maybe we can tidy things up to that effect

[13:58] schestowitz-TR apropos, in gemini we will have similar challenge of nevigation to all pages

[13:58] schestowitz-TR for techrights we have long pages for monthly archives

[13:58] schestowitz-TR for tuxmachines we have linear navigation only

[13:58] schestowitz-TR it will make it very hard for crawling

[13:58] schestowitz-TR we got almost 3000 requests there

[13:58] schestowitz-TR but reaching something posted today one year from now means leaping between thousands of pages, even tens of thousands

[13:58] schestowitz-TR given the directory structure, the issue is very easily resollvable, even much later

[13:58] schestowitz-TR e.g. for each $month find | grep .gmi | sed => something

● Aug 16

[14:03] schestowitz-TR mind if I prottype something in bash?

[14:03] schestowitz-TR like ~/gemini/archives/index.gmi

[14:03] schestowitz-TR or, I am guessing, given URL similarity to HTTP/S

[14:03] schestowitz-TR this is something that can (should?) be done for both in one fell swoop, would be more efficient too

[14:03] schestowitz-TR one pass instead of two

[14:03] schestowitz-TR and similar to what we have in TR

[14:27] Techrights-sec2 no problem, but isn't there already a script for that?

[14:27] Techrights-sec2 /var/www/tuxmachines.org/bin/tm-generate-gemtext-index.sh

[14:29] schestowitz-TR does this take month/year as optional argument to make an index for past months/weeks/days?

[14:42] schestowitz-TR just spent some time trying to figrue out a bug in my scripts that boils down to "weird" chars that I use

[14:42] schestowitz-TR grep and sed can be confused by these

[14:42] schestowitz-TR in pattern matching

[14:42] schestowitz-TR I had that issue also years ago

[14:42] schestowitz-TR the latest neon copes better with such chars

[14:42] schestowitz-TR one very nice thing now is, when i "UPDATE" a page it'll show up again as "new" as updated

[14:42] schestowitz-TR so I can popts a link again, labelled suitably

[14:42] schestowitz-TR I told youi rianne experienced something weird last night

[14:42] schestowitz-TR but turns out she just misunderstood

[14:42] schestowitz-TR she didn not see the pages she had added... at top of the list, but they were there below the newly-updates ones

[14:42] schestowitz-TR (those tends to be more important stories with more prominent coverage)

[14:43] Techrights-sec2 it merely includes the existing feed-based list which should have been

[14:43] Techrights-sec2 made as part of the add-and-refresh or update-and-refresh scripts

[14:43] Techrights-sec2 yes that's what all the trouble with timestamps enables, among other things now

[14:43] Techrights-sec2 which part?

[14:43] Techrights-sec2 I should make the process smoother

[14:43] Techrights-sec2 Oh, that can be fixed too. But if the updated ones should have a higher

[14:43] Techrights-sec2 priority, we can leave it as it is.

[14:50] Techrights-sec2 checking

[14:50] Techrights-sec2 it looks like that step has been skipped,

[14:50] schestowitz-TR it's best as it is

[14:50] schestowitz-TR rianne just had another expectation

[14:50] schestowitz-TR so she didn't see what she had added

[14:50] schestowitz-TR re ~/gemini/archives/index.gmi

[14:50] schestowitz-TR I think /var/www/tuxmachines.org/bin/tm-generate-gemtext-index.sh

[14:50] schestowitz-TR already does something similar but for a different range criterion

[14:50] schestowitz-TR not

[14:50] schestowitz-TR tm-generate-gemtext-archive.pl/sh

[14:50] schestowitz-TR that takes year and month as argument

[14:50] schestowitz-TR and then gives a list

[14:50] schestowitz-TR which would then be possible to use as api in year/month loop

[14:50] schestowitz-TR to make an archives page

[14:50] schestowitz-TR at the very least for crawlers

[14:50] schestowitz-TR this is something drupal lacks/lacked also

[14:50] schestowitz-TR there is a page with archives for each month since start of site

[14:50] schestowitz-TR but it is not easily accessible

[14:50] schestowitz-TR and even when it is, you have to go next, next, next in pagination

[14:50] schestowitz-TR as a month can have 1000+ posts in it

[14:51] Techrights-sec2 so an index by month and an index by day are needed for Gemini?

[14:53] schestowitz-TR given the volume of posts and spiders frowning upon pages with "too many" links in them, maybe 3-level filing (year->month->day) would be best

[14:53] schestowitz-TR like the IRC archives and bulletins in TR gemini capsule

[14:54] Techrights-sec2 or by week and day only?

[14:54] Techrights-sec2 Grouping TM posts by week would still cause very long lists

[14:54] Techrights-sec2 The list per month would be unusably long and perhaps penalized in SEO eventually

[14:56] schestowitz-TR I forgot Google's link thereshold and when I last knew it was likely outdated info for now

[14:56] schestowitz-TR tbh, I think building sites for search engines might be OK just for people who tailor specific search pharases to make sales

[14:56] schestowitz-TR loyal, returning visitors are far more important

[14:56] schestowitz-TR we don't do categories in tuxmachines anymore, it speeds up info entry

[14:56] schestowitz-TR so in-site search and dates are the way to go

[14:56] schestowitz-TR some try to assess similarity/proximity to other pages

[14:56] schestowitz-TR and then add them around each page

[14:57] schestowitz-TR fuzzy search

[14:57] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[14:59] schestowitz-TR Canonical is working for Microsoft and Microsoft didn't even buy Canonical! https://ubuntu.com//blog/install-dotnet-on-ubuntu

[14:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft and Canonical announce native .NET availability in Ubuntu 22.04 hosts and containers | Ubuntu

● Aug 16

[15:08] Techrights-sec2 infiltrated through toxic staffing

[15:09] schestowitz-TR like raspi, you might be banned for "microsoft bashing" if you point it out to them

[15:09] schestowitz-TR crime syndicates <3 CoC. it makes opposition to crime "hate speech".

[15:09] schestowitz-TR Canonical should submit antitrust complaints over Microsoft blocking Linux, not work with the abuser

[15:10] schestowitz-TR James Zemlin and Sheela Microsoft = Big Oil of software http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/

[15:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights

[15:11] lightbringer has quit (.net *.split)

[15:13] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #boycottnovell

[15:16] lightbringer has quit (.net *.split)

[15:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[15:18] Techrights-sec2 ack

[15:18] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #boycottnovell

[15:25] schestowitz-TR worth doing video about? (I've prioritised site maintenance lately)

[15:25] schestowitz-TR tbh, the topis are very scarce this month

[15:25] schestowitz-TR ok, I'll do a video

[15:25] schestowitz-TR it'll take another 2 hours to download all the pages anyway

[15:25] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[15:25] Techrights-sec2 it's a good topic IMHO

[15:25] Techrights-sec2 ack

[15:25] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[15:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[15:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[16:07] schestowitz-TR [15:58] <schestowitz[TR2]> Barlow died around that time

[16:07] schestowitz-TR [15:58] <schestowitz[TR2]> last year they kicked out the other co-founde

[16:07] schestowitz-TR [15:58] <schestowitz[TR2]> EFF: same name, not the same people at the wheel

[16:07] Techrights-sec2 ack

[16:14] schestowitz-TR draft

[16:14] Techrights-sec2 ack

[16:14] Techrights-sec2 "Moving to Ubuntu" might be "Moving from Ubuntu" instead

[16:14] Techrights-sec2 see also https://9to5linux.com/peppermint-os-now-offers-devuan-based-isos-for-software-freedom-lovers

[16:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Peppermint OS Now Offers Devuan-Based ISOs for Software Freedom Lovers - 9to5Linux

[16:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[16:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[16:23] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer)

[16:34] schestowitz-TR twitter is dying

[16:34] schestowitz-TR but it's not news

[16:34] schestowitz-TR so nothing too "surprising" to present

[16:34] schestowitz-TR it quit sending me spam notifications

[16:34] schestowitz-TR like fake ones to give the false impression I have interactions

[16:34] schestowitz-TR daily impression halved since pre-Musk

[16:34] schestowitz-TR it's the next indenti.ca with pump.io

[16:34] schestowitz-TR made it irrelevant very fast

[16:39] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[16:59] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

● Aug 16

[17:03] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

[17:05] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[17:05] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

[17:09] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[17:33] schestowitz-TR gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/16/ODF_standard_and_the_code_EasyHack.gmie_code_EasyHack.gmi

[17:33] schestowitz-TR when running git pull

[17:33] schestowitz-TR I've been getting quite a few timeouts this past hour

[17:33] schestowitz-TR both TM and TR

[17:33] schestowitz-TR but cannot see an issue upstream

[17:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

[17:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[18:09] schestowitz-TR wow, rianne saved almost 50 quid with today's grocery shopping

[18:09] schestowitz-TR now downloading 168,000+

[18:09] schestowitz-TR I have a list of about 10 steps after that

[18:09] schestowitz-TR just trying to clear all rss feeds prior to these tasks

[18:09] schestowitz-TR apachetop says tm-old still does 10.5 hits/sec in the past 3 hours

[18:09] schestowitz-TR I want to see what happens when we redirect those 1800 or so newer pages

[18:09] schestowitz-TR and esp. see what pages are still in demand

[18:13] Techrights-sec2 yes, the response is almost instant

[18:13] Techrights-sec2 yes, less clutter

[18:13] schestowitz-TR the pages load very fast now, as they're static (the ones downloaded)

[18:13] schestowitz-TR and along the top right it has a mention of the new address for latest news, under "Latest News"

[18:13] schestowitz-TR The new site format is a lot better, never mind performance aspects

[18:13] schestowitz-TR the old one was far too noisy and people kept complaining either about no https (TR has that now) or

[18:13] schestowitz-TR the page reuqiring very wide screen due to the sidebars on both sides

[18:37] *schestowitz[TR] has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)

[18:37] *schestowitz[TR2] has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)

[18:50] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

[18:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

[18:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[19:05] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[19:11] schestowitz-TR Poul-Henning Kamp: Surveillance Too Cheap to Meter https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/7/262077-surveillance-too-cheap-to-meter/fulltext

[19:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cacm.acm.org | Surveillance Too Cheap to Meter | July 2022 | Communications of the ACM

[19:14] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[19:33] Techrights-sec2 ack

[19:38] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[20:22] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowitz[TR]@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[20:23] *schestowitz[TR2] (~schestowitz[TR]@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[20:23] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell

[20:31] schestowitz-TR I have a dumb question

[20:31] schestowitz-TR on /home/roy I have my wget log

[20:31] schestowitz-TR I checked file sizes for all files of interest

[20:31] schestowitz-TR it's all done

[20:31] schestowitz-TR I want to get the list of 403 or similar

[20:31] schestowitz-TR for sanity check

● Aug 16

[21:02] Techrights-sec2 checking

[21:02] Techrights-sec2 that data is not in the table

[21:02] Techrights-sec2 however, 'blacklist' might be the same

[21:02] Techrights-sec2 but a few spot checks comparing that to another log indicate that is not the

[21:02] Techrights-sec2 case

[21:04] schestowitz-TR thanks, that's enough sanity for now :-)

[21:04] schestowitz-TR it's not even original "content"

[21:04] schestowitz-TR I've not set this up to redict ALL these nodes to the new site's mirror

[21:04] schestowitz-TR no matter what is in the url as long as node/NUMBER precedes it for this range

[21:04] schestowitz-TR doing more testing now

[21:04] Techrights-sec2 try /home/tuxmachines/wget.log

[21:04] Techrights-sec2 the rewrite engine in Apach2 can do patterns and pattern-based substitutions

[21:09] schestowitz-TR testing today''s local and remote DB backup

[21:09] schestowitz-TR we can soon turn off these backups, as only cache tables will change

[21:30] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[21:31] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

● Aug 16

[22:15] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[22:16] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[22:18] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[22:20] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)

[22:22] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[22:23] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[22:31] *libertybox__ (~schestowitz_log@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[22:31] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell

[22:31] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[22:31] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-4jgiab.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

[22:32] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[22:32] *ts2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[22:32] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[22:32] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

[22:32] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[22:32] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

[22:32] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@x6gnqyt8r46u8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell