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[05:52] schestowitz > Thanks for sharing

[05:52] schestowitz >

[05:52] schestowitz > One thing that is easy to spot: the debian.community post doesn't make

[05:53] schestowitz > comment about FLOSSK anywhere. None of the FLOSSK people are in the

[05:53] schestowitz > tartan photos. Therefore, why does FLOSSK write to you, why did nobody

[05:53] schestowitz > from Debian contact you directly?

[05:53] schestowitz >

[05:53] schestowitz > "Others are also welcome to join us there for a reasonable price."

[05:53] schestowitz >

[05:53] schestowitz > I don't think the post is about the prices.

[05:53] schestowitz >

[05:53] schestowitz > A very useful way to address any complaint. Just ask one and only one

[05:53] schestowitz > question: "When was the first complaint you received about Mr Pocock?"

[05:53] schestowitz >

[05:53] schestowitz > Let them answer that before drilling down on their concerns. Their

[05:53] schestowitz > answers will eventually be contradicted with the dates. Just as the

[05:53] schestowitz > accusation of a relationship with an intern was contradicted by evidence

[05:53] schestowitz > about who really did that.

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[07:48] schestowitz-TR ota

[07:48] schestowitz-TR 7169 reqs for "rms' in today's logs

[07:48] schestowitz-TR out of 41510 for webm

[07:48] schestowitz-TR I was curious as many people do access that talk already

[07:52] schestowitz =

[07:52] schestowitz https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/04/08/lat-inte-eu-infora-natcensur-i-tysthet/

[07:52] schestowitz =

[07:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-femtejuli-se.translate.goog | Lt inte EU infra ntcensur i tysthet

[07:52] schestowitz x https://www.inach.net/the-digital-services-act/

[07:52] schestowitz =

[07:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.inach.net | The Digital Services Act INACH

● Apr 14

[10:24] Techrights-sec TR shows up high in the search results for the talk and the FSF still

[10:24] Techrights-sec has not published it anywhere , or at least no where easily found

[10:25] schestowitz-TR I mostly ignore search engine because loyal readers are a lot more important then someone clicking

[10:25] schestowitz-TR something and maybe pressing back

[10:25] schestowitz-TR yesterday you and I debated what to do about sites that become SEO spamfarms

[10:25] schestowitz-TR "Foss Linux" seems to be heading in a bad direction too

● Apr 14

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[11:27] Techrights-sec ack

[11:27] Techrights-sec much of the US government is porbably operated by and, certainly, on behalf of

[11:27] Techrights-sec microsofters

[11:27] Techrights-sec against the best interests of the nation

[11:27] schestowitz-TR Microsoft, Microsoft, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Kaseya (Windows)... https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity

[11:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Current Activity | CISA

[11:27] schestowitz-TR /2022/04/13/cisa-adds-10-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

[11:27] schestowitz-TR CISA must be run partly by Microsofters

[11:27] schestowitz-TR They save face and shift attention to FOSS in a negative light quite a lot

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[12:21] schestowitz-TR [11:54] "Training Bundle might even make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates." WTF?? https:/

[12:21] schestowitz-TR /boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html

[12:21] Techrights-sec yes boingboing has been crap since corey left they shill M$ shift often and

[12:21] Techrights-sec loudly

[12:21] Techrights-sec "make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates."

[12:21] Techrights-sec what, does it come with a complementary NAMBLA membership?

[12:21] Techrights-sec yes he probably feels burned because it was off to a good start while he

[12:21] Techrights-sec was there

[12:21] Techrights-sec They are one example of the symptom.

[12:21] Techrights-sec I guess buyouts worked for the colleges and universities and now they are turning to the reamining areas where people can self-tea

[12:21] Techrights-sec learn in spite of everything else.

[12:21] Techrights-sec s/can learn/could have learned/

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[15:44] schestowitz-TR draft

[15:44] schestowitz-TR my impression after a few weeks with kde neon is not all good

[15:44] schestowitz-TR I can see things I don't like as well

[15:44] schestowitz-TR it feels like "rolling release"

[15:44] schestowitz-TR and therefore I can spot some rougher edges

[15:44] schestowitz-TR maybe for a hobby guy like daemonfc it's OK

[15:44] schestowitz-TR but I end up wasting lots of time trying to 'fix' things

[15:44] Techrights-sec ack

[15:44] Techrights-sec the whole distro has to be rolling then

[15:46] schestowitz-TR it also reminds me of windows in the sens that it wants a reboot to install

[15:46] schestowitz-TR the system updates

[15:46] schestowitz-TR and does not want me to run apt-get upgrade

[15:46] schestowitz-TR this seems like a regression to me

[15:46] schestowitz-TR but I assume they want a whole new image to boot each time

[15:46] schestowitz-TR I did not research this properly

[15:48] schestowitz-TR vlc was causing some issues

[15:48] schestowitz-TR and now webcamoid

[15:48] schestowitz-TR installing updates takes a long time

[15:48] schestowitz-TR I'm OK with it as long as it's not "truly" my mkain machine

[15:48] schestowitz-TR but maybe one for storage of files

[15:48] schestowitz-TR and music, some browsing etc.

[15:58] Techrights-sec ack

● Apr 14

[16:01] schestowitz-TR don't get me wrong,. I put all the essensial data like email on there and usually I don't change machines

[16:01] schestowitz-TR immediately

[16:01] schestowitz-TR I still do file editing, over ssh, from the "old" machine, vonick

[16:01] schestowitz-TR I also check system error messages to assure myself nothing crazy is hapening

[16:01] schestowitz-TR that OS will soon run out of official support

[16:01] schestowitz-TR KDE neon has very cutting edge packages

[16:01] Techrights-sec ack

[16:01] schestowitz-TR I would rather records on there as the camera is of better quality

[16:01] schestowitz-TR copying across files for processing to the other machine takes only a few seconds

[16:01] schestowitz-TR about a week ago the microphone no longer worked properly

[16:02] schestowitz-TR so I set that aside and used the other one in the meantime

[16:02] schestowitz-TR after this update (read) reboot) I hope it'll be back to normal

[16:02] schestowitz-TR I wasted a lot of time trying to 'fix' it

[16:11] schestowitz-TR on the upside, this past night tuxmachines had no issues

[16:11] schestowitz-TR no downtime and the backups seem fine, I check every 12 hours

[16:11] schestowitz-TR I did not test gunzip on them

[16:11] schestowitz-TR I will do in a moment on TR

[16:11] schestowitz-TR weirdly enoughn the gzip file on archives/tm*, for yesterday, is failing

[16:11] schestowitz-TR I tried all sorts gunzip and gzip -d

[16:11] schestowitz-TR the one from a day earlier (04-12) works OK

[16:11] schestowitz-TR when extracted it is 1.62gb

[16:11] schestowitz-TR AAA

[16:11] schestowitz-TR another dump will come there soon

[16:11] schestowitz-TR I eill test it

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[16:23] Techrights-sec ok

[16:38] schestowitz-TR I still cannot fix the microphone+noisetorch, even after updates

[16:38] schestowitz-TR but maybe it can work out for the better as I want to try obs studio

[16:40] Techrights-sec I'm mostly unfamiliar with sound. I can only make the vague recommendation

[16:40] Techrights-sec to try to get each voice on a separate channel and then use Audacity or a fork

[16:40] Techrights-sec to do noise reduction.

[16:40] Techrights-sec My (mis-)understanding is that a lot of people do the audio in Audacity or a

[16:40] Techrights-sec fork and then fold that in with the video recordings using Kdenlive, after

[16:40] Techrights-sec having captured the video with OBS. Thus one of the reasons for clapping once

[16:40] Techrights-sec at the start.

[16:40] Techrights-sec That facilitates synchronizing the sound and the video.

[16:42] schestowitz-TR such a process would certainly take a lot more time

[16:42] schestowitz-TR webcamoid managed to simplify a lot of stuff

[16:42] schestowitz-TR I am not entirely sure why, just roughly when, the input

[16:42] schestowitz-TR stopped working

[16:42] Techrights-sec Yes many (nearly all) seem to have a full time production manager

[16:42] Techrights-sec The video seemed to lock up.

[16:42] Techrights-sec By the way is there a link to the official FSF arhived copy of the talk?

[16:42] schestowitz-TR which video locked up?

[16:44] schestowitz-TR I did notice that vlc was recently acting a bit odd

[16:45] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/

[16:45] Techrights-sec At least in VLC it locks up. That happens in other videos too

[16:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Video of Richard Stallmans Belated LibrePlanet 2022 Talk (With Commentary) | Techrights

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[16:52] schestowitz-TR yes, I did notice this vlc issue recently

[16:52] schestowitz-TR maybe a week ago

[16:52] schestowitz-TR for the first time

[16:52] schestowitz-TR but in firefox and other media players it plays OK

[16:52] schestowitz-TR I'm not sure why

[16:52] Techrights-sec :/

[16:52] Techrights-sec VLC used to be best but I gather it has attracted undesireable attention from M$

[16:52] Techrights-sec or other malevolent interests

[16:53] schestowitz-TR I am nore sure if what changed was vlc, the media files, or something else

[16:53] schestowitz-TR but a few times I was mortified that recordings had gone bad

[16:53] schestowitz-TR and then I saw it was OK in other players

[16:53] schestowitz-TR I cannot recall if processing the video overcame the issue

[16:58] schestowitz-TR I've just tested some older file

[16:58] schestowitz-TR it seems like procesing or re-encoding such video solves the issue for vlc

[16:58] schestowitz-TR but I think we've seen the issue whether it's recorded on the new laptop or the new

[16:58] schestowitz-TR laptop

[16:58] schestowitz-TR this leads me to suspecting vlc might be the culprit

[16:58] schestowitz-TR today I iUN-installed vlc after installing it 2 weeks ago on the new lapto

[16:58] schestowitz-TR as it was causinf severe issues at time

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[17:11] schestowitz-TR this is starting to look like a blessing in disguise

[17:11] schestowitz-TR the options in obs studio are a whole new level

[17:11] schestowitz-TR the file sizes are smaller

[17:11] schestowitz-TR it does noise cancellation

[17:11] schestowitz-TR filters are several

[17:11] schestowitz-TR and allows several cams all at ones

[17:11] schestowitz-TR with the screen also

[17:11] schestowitz-TR I think this is what I will use from now on

[17:11] schestowitz-TR shhhhiiiit

[17:11] schestowitz-TR but anyway, different workflow

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[18:00] schestowitz-TR the audio mixing is very nice too

[18:00] schestowitz-TR so now the only reason for still using webcamoid is legacy i guess

[18:00] schestowitz-TR draft

[18:00] schestowitz-TR you can see the 1-min video

[18:02] Techrights-sec I've not done video editing for a very long time

[18:02] Techrights-sec ack

[18:02] Techrights-sec Maybe the draft could have a few words about the goal of the survey or the topic

[18:02] schestowitz-TR wait, are you reading the obs draft

[18:04] schestowitz-TR also notice file size

[18:04] schestowitz-TR 2.5mb for a 1-min busy video

[18:04] schestowitz-TR a

[18:04] schestowitz-TR vastly better than before

[18:05] Techrights-sec Oh. Refreshed now. I see OBS on KDE now

[18:05] Techrights-sec The text of the post ought to mention KDE Neon by name

[18:05] Techrights-sec "BS Studio" ought to be "OBS Studio

[18:05] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

[18:05] Techrights-sec Excellent

[18:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Serial comma - Wikipedia

[18:07] schestowitz-TR important typo

[18:07] schestowitz-TR in terms of workflow

[18:07] schestowitz-TR it outputs to a bunch of formats di not like

[18:07] schestowitz-TR about 6 proprietary ones

[18:07] schestowitz-TR so I copy the output across, ffmpeg to convert to webm and then pipe through the usual

[18:07] schestowitz-TR algos

[18:07] schestowitz-TR thgis way the script is compatible with both PCs

[18:07] Techrights-sec Perhaps that could be annotated in the post as an advantage.

[18:10] schestowitz-TR which advantage? the formats|? File size? Webcamoid has more options

[18:10] schestowitz-TR and more liberal ones

[18:10] schestowitz-TR as a side note, for streaming it suggests using all sorts of disservices I strionglu dislike

[18:10] schestowitz-TR but we rarely have a need to stream anything

[18:11] Techrights-sec "also notice file size"

[18:11] Techrights-sec "16:44:55 bnchs; i'm pretty sure the trolls triggered them too much"

[18:19] Techrights-sec streaming is only useful in very specific contexts, nothing relevant to TR

[18:19] schestowitz-TR yes, there are risks associated with it in an env not carefully controlled

[18:19] schestowitz-TR like an actual studio

[18:20] Techrights-sec yep

[18:20] Techrights-sec a proper studio would be a prerequisite, too

[18:20] Techrights-sec an probably a better mic

[18:20] schestowitz-TR since you have mentioned it, I am going to weak the mic

[18:21] Techrights-sec I bet there are good used mics around now that those that tried and gave up

[18:21] Techrights-sec on vlogging plous those that found they wanted even fancier during the pandemic

[18:21] Techrights-sec have made their decisions

[18:27] schestowitz-TR this evening's tm backup went o

[18:27] schestowitz-TR jk gunzipping now

[18:27] schestowitz-TR yes, looks good

[18:27] schestowitz-TR 1.69gb

[18:27] schestowitz-TR the new few days I will focus a lot on patenbts

[18:27] schestowitz-TR i will also recover from lack of sleep and am about to mess around with obs studio

[18:27] schestowitz-TR it has ALOOOOT of funcionality

[18:27] Techrights-sec excellent

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