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[02:13] schestowitz-TR2 https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/yuhong2/status/1625296946691981312#m

[02:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "https://wiki.debian.org/PrivacyIssues There used to be a "lets remove google from foss" thread where I had to mention techrights." | La Contre-Voie - nitter

[02:14] schestowitz-TR2 https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/yuhong2/status/1625298399934435333#m

[02:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "Part of the reason I paid attention to @MarginaliaNu is the hardware issues it shows." | La Contre-Voie - nitter

[02:17] schestowitz-TR2 "Joensuu's employment services chief says she thinks that employers still have unnecessary prejudices against hiring immigrants." https://yle.fi/a/74-20017683

[02:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yle.fi | Foreigners' Finnish skills considered a bigger obstacle than they really are, city official says | News | Yle Uutiset

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[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] k00k:

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] Re: Quotations from Chairman Mao

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > The richest source if power to wage war lies in the masses of the

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > people. The imperialists are bullying us in such a way that we will have

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > to deal with them seriously.

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] >

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > Considering the revolutionary war as a whole, the operations of the

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > peoples Guerillas and those of the main forces of the Kuomintang,

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > compliment each other like a mans right arm and left arm.

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] >

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > Unquestionable victory in or defeat in War is determined mainly by the

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > masses, of Political, Economical and Natural conditions on all sides.

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] >

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > The Object of War is Specifically to preserve oneself and destroy the enemy.

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] >

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > So in hindsight, why are we supposedly helping U.S & European Union

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > imperialism?

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] >

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > Have you read the quotes from Mr Shwab of the WEF? "Pedophilia is

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > Nature's Gift to Children!" according to him. Yet surely if Mr Shwab

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > lived in China where 70 Billion ARM devices where sold, he would already

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > be hanging for his pediatric and dim view by the neck on public display!

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] >

[03:48] schestowitz[TR2] > Best wishes

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[05:00] schestowitz-pi broke glass bowl in kitchen, seconde incident in two monrings, but this damage is not expensive,

[05:00] schestowitz-pi it mostly wastes timr

[05:00] schestowitz-pi *time

[05:12] schestowitz-pi had lots to paste here yesterday (links) and some stuff to say, but worried scrollback would be

[05:12] schestowitz-pi exceeded

[05:12] schestowitz-pi anyway, that was not too important

[05:12] schestowitz-pi i have lots of time to watch the news more widely than before and go beyond foss

[05:12] schestowitz-pi i tried the version 7 of the script and I got the "~" issue again

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[05:15] schestowitz-pi saw lots of "good" news so far since 11pm rise

[05:15] schestowitz-pi when i say "good" these days it often means something bad for epople or companies that I strongly dislike

[05:15] schestowitz-pi at 10am today I want to observe ONS number

[05:15] schestowitz-pi I had some ;''throwaway' datasheets on my old drive before it crashed

[05:15] schestowitz-pi it might thus be a little tricky to quickly generate the same kind of analysis

[05:15] schestowitz-pi but i don't mind

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[05:15] schestowitz-pi if I minded those lost files, I'd back them up more often

[05:15] schestowitz-pi a "bomb" (shell) may soon drop on epo

[05:15] schestowitz-pi major scandal

[05:15] schestowitz-pi working on graphics

[05:15] schestowitz-pi btw, your february and ours feels almost like spring, can't complain..

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[06:33] schestowitz-pi near the top the feeds are more sparsely populated

[06:33] schestowitz-pi but pgup/down helps

● Feb 14

[08:06] schestowitz-pi one good thing about being unhinged, unlocked, off the rails of a gui

[08:06] schestowitz-pi and doing your own code is that it is easily extensible

[08:06] schestowitz-pi no need to lobbyp "upstream"

[08:06] schestowitz-pi but now, having been deatched from quiterss, i already think how to use heuristics

[08:06] schestowitz-pi limited to gui (like filtering by words) to script things and cluster related topics

[08:06] schestowitz-pi algorithmically

[08:06] schestowitz-pi we already manage toi post far more links per day

[08:06] schestowitz-pi (btw, just got back, catching up a bit)

[08:06] techrights[sec] In the last 15 years lobbying upstream, even when providing sampe code, is

[08:06] techrights[sec] a waste of time.

[08:06] techrights[sec] I suppose something with a GUI could be built out aspects of the feed reader

[08:06] techrights[sec] script, but it's not a high return on effort until there are more reasons to

[08:06] techrights[sec] learn PyQt and such.

[08:09] schestowitz-pi i'm quite good at guis and used many frameworks

[08:09] schestowitz-pi but would rather not rush to gui-fy things as there is a maintenance overhead

[08:09] schestowitz-pi when new versions come out

[08:09] schestowitz-pi not good roi

[08:09] schestowitz-pi my matlab/octave gui stuff had me ranked #1 in the world around 2004 or 2005

[08:09] schestowitz-pi gui fetishes are a 90s thing

[08:09] schestowitz-pi i think due to many people m,ovined from doses to various windowing things

[08:09] schestowitz-pi and it was "all the rage"

[08:12] techrights[sec] the only area a GUI /might/ help is being able to edit the OPML entry inside

[08:12] techrights[sec] the interface. Because the UI is currently a web page, that is to possible at

[08:12] techrights[sec] the moment.

[08:13] schestowitz-pi it's easy enough for me with nano and kate

[08:13] schestowitz-pi the latter is a GUI

[08:13] schestowitz-pi but sure, it does not do editing per se

[08:13] schestowitz-pi not in the beyond-nesting level

[08:13] schestowitz-pi there are xml and opml general-purpose editors

[08:13] schestowitz-pi no need to make antoher one ;-)

[08:21] techrights[sec] Exactly.

[08:22] schestowitz-pi wow, this toolset is really awesome, wish we had done this years ago

[08:22] schestowitz-pi but did not until the crash

[08:22] schestowitz-pi i already knew I was not efficient because the workflow felt wrong

[08:22] schestowitz-pi lots of clicking and copying, where the actions were repetitive

[08:24] schestowitz-pi all i really needed was 1) overview, 2) no text, 3) consistent format

[08:24] schestowitz-pi overview as in, let's see what's new atm

[08:24] schestowitz-pi btw, phoronix can barely produce even one headline worth clicking in per day now

[08:24] schestowitz-pi a lot is just some kernel patches that don't matter much

[08:24] schestowitz-pi due to over-emphasising quotas

[08:26] techrights[sec] It's all about finding which parts of the workflow cann be offloaded onto

[08:26] techrights[sec] scripts and about tuning the workflow to facilitate that while still getting

[08:26] techrights[sec] revelvant tasks done.

[08:26] techrights[sec] Too much clicking is always a bad sign even if some people enjoy it and

[08:26] techrights[sec] find it addictive^Wengaging.

[08:26] techrights[sec] Body text could be added as per the automated feeds but I think that would

[08:26] techrights[sec] add very little to no value. I've only checked two or three Phoronix articles

[08:26] techrights[sec] in recent months and they were really more like blurbs than posts or articles.

[08:26] techrights[sec] Given Michael's great work in the past, I feel bad for the situation he is in

[08:28] schestowitz-pi he still does benchmarks, but a lot of the rest is to generate "clicks" and get people to

[08:28] schestowitz-pi see the ads, which are most of each page

[08:28] schestowitz-pi i meant above to seay "no images", not "no text"

[08:28] schestowitz-pi very seldom do images become really essential to what I am reading

[08:28] schestowitz-pi esp. in technical domains

[08:28] schestowitz-pi like some photo of a politician

[08:28] schestowitz-pi adds nothing

[08:28] schestowitz-pi regarding outlines, at the moment I offload the html using my script, so use the two

[08:28] schestowitz-pi tools in parallel

[08:28] schestowitz-pi i am dump mine into /tmp in 2 mins

[08:32] schestowitz-pi two files just added to /tmp

[08:32] schestowitz-pi exmplifying the dirty script/hack

[08:32] schestowitz-pi and its output that I then use

[08:32] schestowitz-pi some feeds, like france24, are neat because they're providing just enough text, not badly

[08:32] schestowitz-pi tranculated, and there no ?tracking-junk trailing the url (i manually remove those)

[08:32] schestowitz-pi so I can read, categorise, post to irc and my backup at the site schestowitz.com while it gets added

[08:32] schestowitz-pi to Daily Llinks

[08:33] schestowitz-pi *truncated, not sure why I typed that strange word

[08:33] schestowitz-pi muscle memory I guess

[08:33] techrights[sec] Is body text needed? I figure it would be probably be hidden by a click and

[08:33] techrights[sec] if a click is needed it might as well bring up the full web page in the browser

[08:35] schestowitz-pi regarding body text, is there a "hidden" property for blockquote?

[08:35] schestowitz-pi or some other approach?

[08:35] schestowitz-pi so that it appears in the html file but not in the browser

[08:35] schestowitz-pi the context is very unpredictale, varies from site to site

[08:45] schestowitz-pi out of curiousity, and i rarely do such stuff, i checked how many requests per week for the Daily Links fish thi

[08:45] schestowitz-pi ngie (over html/SOME RSS clients but not all, def. not gemini), it says 35k-40k

[08:45] schestowitz-pi i.e. 5k+ a day

[08:45] schestowitz-pi checking image requests helps count out bots, spiders, and passive readers over the full text rss

[08:45] schestowitz-pi feed (we give everything in rss, as some people demand to read it this way and it is more

[08:45] schestowitz-pi convenient if you can afford the b/w)

[08:45] schestowitz-pi apachelog says every 5 mins about 200 reqs for the TR RSS feed

[08:45] schestowitz-pi so if you assume people poll once a day that can be a lot

[08:46] schestowitz-pi i think that, all in all, Daily Links are actually the most useful contribution of the site

[08:46] schestowitz-pi or so I was told

[08:46] schestowitz-pi i know several foss sites that tried to copy it but gave up as they cannot do it as well

[08:46] techrights[sec] I'm not sure how many feed readers are broken though

[08:49] schestowitz-pi yeah, these metrics are not reliable and should not matter much

[08:49] schestowitz-pi back in 2004ish I was getting obsessed with site traffic

[08:49] schestowitz-pi to the point where I spent too much time worrying about it

[08:49] schestowitz-pi 5 mins ago it said 100+ requests for the linux-china webm files were made in <5 mins

[08:49] schestowitz-pi those are not likely to be bots

[08:49] schestowitz-pi i was surprised to see 50k reqs for videos per week

[08:49] schestowitz-pi if you go to google.com

[08:49] schestowitz-pi press video

[08:49] schestowitz-pi search for linux stuff

[08:49] schestowitz-pi techrights is listed there and ranked well

[08:55] schestowitz-pi i feel sort of bad for people who still think Google/YouTube as a shim between their audience is safe

[08:55] schestowitz-pi or twitter "followers" instead of direct access to rss feeds

[08:55] schestowitz-pi our rss address has been the same for almost 17 years

[08:55] schestowitz-pi companies don't last this long, ot the urls don't (feedBURNER)

[08:55] schestowitz-pi anyway, sorry i i rammble on too much. i left my employer at the right time, we can not fortify what

[08:55] schestowitz-pi we have and imprrrrrrrrrrrrove it (oops, that's barrier and loggy network)

[08:55] schestowitz-pi *laggy

[08:55] schestowitz-pi high latency can result in keystroke sent several times

[08:55] schestowitz-pi i use ytalk over the raspi400

[08:55] schestowitz-pi it connected over ssh to vonick, which in turns connected to ssh

[08:55] schestowitz-pi *is connected

[08:55] schestowitz-pi and then vonick runs barrier over two machines, to reach 'itself'

[08:55] schestowitz-pi barrier would 'skip' or 'bypass' the machine in the middle if it cannot be reached

[08:55] schestowitz-pi but i spent an hour yesterday trying to debug a separate issue with the two barrier handles screen

[08:55] schestowitz-pi edges and corner for screen spaces that are of very diferent shape

[08:55] schestowitz-pi synergy does not seem to have this problem, but nothing is perfect, i timed out and gave up

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[09:00] schestowitz-pi the monthly cost of pc+external screen is low compared to the "worth" of time

[09:00] schestowitz-pi i dim down more these days, or physically switch off when afk

[09:01] schestowitz-pi distributing the processes a<cross machine can be done in a way that makes it robust to one machine

[09:01] schestowitz-pi losing the connection or rebooting

[09:01] schestowitz-pi for important open files we have the pi back up to external 3tb drive each morning

[09:01] schestowitz-pi and keep a stack going back a few days, in case removery from older scnapshot is needed

[09:01] schestowitz-pi the files are accessed over ssh, so there is also a corresponding working file in /tmp or ram

[09:01] schestowitz-pi i started doing it this way 12 months ago when vonick alerted about the ssd

[09:01] schestowitz-pi it seems like good practice in general, two working copies always on two machines

[09:01] schestowitz-pi just need to seperate the files that barely change (infrequent backups) and those that change

[09:01] schestowitz-pi all day long

[09:01] schestowitz-pi anf files you don't mind losing, e.g. browser history, images you already uploaded to a site etc./

[09:06] techrights[sec] Rsync can do incremental backup with --link-dest

[09:08] schestowitz-pi i prefer what i call "stacks" and iirc amazon calls "Glacier(TM)"

[09:08] schestowitz-pi since 2004ish

[09:08] schestowitz-pi so that in case I mess up something I can go back in time

[09:08] schestowitz-pi p[redating zfs and btrfs in linux

[09:08] schestowitz-pi also, if you use the don't delet option in rsync (or vice vers)

[09:08] schestowitz-pi then you're left with lots of cruft

[09:08] schestowitz-pi rather than a mirror

[09:16] techrights[sec] Yes, periodic use of the --delete option is essential.

[09:17] schestowitz-pi seems like a neat workaround

[09:17] schestowitz-pi to embrace of file systems that are complex

[09:17] schestowitz-pi i will take a look.....

[09:44] schestowitz-pi

[09:44] schestowitz-pi sometimes the mumble monitoring picks up or scans a scanner

[09:44] schestowitz-pi just now some ip from a block in bulgaria (it seems)

[09:44] schestowitz-pi tried some parts above 60000

[09:44] schestowitz-pi *ports

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[10:06] techrights[sec]

[10:06] techrights[sec] Scanners run all the time against many ports

[10:06] techrights[sec]

[10:27] schestowitz-TR2 So Far This Year 75,717 Deaths in England and Wales, Compared to 58,461 in the Same Period in 2019 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/02/14/30-percent-death-increase/

[10:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive So Far This Year 75,717 Deaths in England and Wales, Compared to 58,461 in the Same Period in 2019

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[12:02] schestowitz-pi pandemic is over

[12:02] schestowitz-pi back to work, folks

[12:02] schestowitz-pi good luck

[12:02] schestowitz-TR2 "persistently sad or hopeless" https://www.plenglish.com/news/2023/02/13/cdc-says-teen-girls-report-record-levels-of-violence-suicide-risk/ | Source: La Prensa Latina

[12:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.plenglish.com | CDC says teen girls report record levels of violence, suicide risk - Prensa Latina

[12:07] techrights[sec]

[12:07] techrights[sec] They are affected worst by social control media.

[12:08] schestowitz-pi make-up cannot compete with instagram

[12:08] schestowitz-pi so they will always feel ugly

[12:16] techrights[sec] Not to mention the destructive messages brought to the non-mainland Chinese

[12:16] techrights[sec] targets by ByteDance.

[12:28] schestowitz-pi idg says microsoft faces "slowing growth"

[12:29] schestowitz-pi i didn't know firing 25k staff is "growth"

[12:29] schestowitz-pi then again, i didn't know ComputerWorld News is noise

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[12:49] techrights[sec] g other that growth cannot be

[12:49] techrights[sec] mentioned. Thus collapse is even labelled as "slowing growth" or "less growth

[12:49] techrights[sec] than expect" or some other nonsense.

[12:49] techrights[sec] "growth" has become so sacred to MBAs that anything other that growth cannot be

[12:49] techrights[sec] mentioned. Thus collapse is even labelled as "slowing growth" or "less growth

[12:49] techrights[sec] than expect" or some other nonsense.

[12:49] schestowitz-pi in 1945 the soviets entered berlin

[12:50] schestowitz-pi hitler experienced "slowing growth" and shot himself

[12:50] schestowitz-pi alwaysd wanting morer and never is "enough" is a mental condition

[12:50] schestowitz-pi even putin might have it and biden pumps up the war budget

[12:50] schestowitz-pi so it seems those people run the world

[12:50] schestowitz-pi they always want more

[12:50] schestowitz-pi more salary, higher position

[12:50] schestowitz-pi "vicious cycle"

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[13:58] schestowitz-TR2 Two completely different things https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/eff-backs-california-bill-protect-people-seeking-abortion-and-gender-affirming | Source: EFF

[13:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFF Backs California Bill to Protect People Seeking Abortion and Gender-Affirming Care from Dragnet Digital Surveillance | Electronic Frontier Foundation

[13:59] techrightssec Yes, they're working to marginalize a mainsteam topic by coupling it to

[13:59] techrightssec other completely unrelated divisive. It's done on purpose.

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[14:00] schestowitz-pi EFF afaic remember focused on the core issues back in the novell days

[14:00] schestowitz-pi nothing about abortion and such

[14:00] schestowitz-pi that's ACLU

[14:00] schestowitz-pi EFF and ACLU do collaborate on overlapping issues at times

[14:01] techrights[sec] Collaboration is fine and at times useful. However, the core issues need to

[14:01] techrights[sec] be in the forefront 100% of the tine,

[14:01] techrights[sec] s/tine/time

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[15:59] schestowitz-pi unstable troublemaker in sheep clothing

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[16:04] schestowitz-pi 'back' now from in-house valentine's

[16:04] schestowitz-pi cards, gifts, other special things

[16:04] schestowitz-pi i can't believe in 2023 we're still 30% more deaths than 2019

[16:04] schestowitz-pi and the media does not mention this

[16:05] schestowitz-pi we joked just not about what we could do "out" and not just the cost

[16:05] schestowitz-pi but the risk associated

[16:06] techrights[sec] The media does not mention deaths here either

[16:06] techrights[sec] though they are many

[16:43] schestowitz-pi soon they will call people with masks on "snobs", nuns, paranoid, "criminals"

[16:43] schestowitz-pi i.e. the opposite of what it was in 20202

[16:43] schestowitz-pi policies not consistent wrt the data/evidence

[16:43] schestowitz-pi it's like a "fashion"

[16:43] schestowitz-pi now wearing them is "out of fashion"

[16:46] schestowitz-pi headsup: don't expect manyn links/articles today, i prioritise being a decent person/husband and today is 14/2

[16:48] schestowitz-pi to guys it might be a mostly normal day, but to women it is not

[16:48] schestowitz-pi partly because of peers and brain

[16:50] schestowitz-TR2 COVID-19 vaccines we have at the moment suck anyway. Efficacy far too low. Cheap to make (bar patent cartel/thicket), cause illness, don't offer sufficient protection. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Sweden-Discards-8.5-Million-Doses-of-COVID-19-Vaccines-20230213-0018.html

[16:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.telesurenglish.net | Sweden Discards 8.5 Million Doses of COVID-19 Vaccines | News | teleSUR English

[16:52] schestowitz-TR2 Lesson of the story: do NOT PRE-order junk. Certainly don't pay x100 times the production costs because of a patent collusion and DO NOT do all this under/with secret clauses at taxpayers' expense. They won't be happy about it.

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[16:57] schestowitz-TR2 the-scientist.com running "sponsored-article"[s] (spam/ads). We remember when the site had some dignity and quality. Sadly, a lot of journals went down the same path/route, even took bribes from Bill Gates to do a 180, instead of condemning his anti-health push -- as they once they -- they'd run puff pieces for him (yes, even Lancet!!!)

[16:57] schestowitz-TR2 the-scientist.com is, at this moment, 66% SPAM ("sponsored article"") and 3% "opinion" (yes, opinion, not reporting). it'll probably be offline in a few years. sold out.

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