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● May 06

[07:12] schestowitz-TR today I start the links in the middle

[07:12] schestowitz-TR glad to see CN saying "social control media" in a headline ;-

[07:12] schestowitz-TR ;-)

[07:13] schestowitz-TR *SN

[07:15] schestowitz-TR reading the comments now, they seem decent

[07:31] Techrights-sec excellent

[07:31] Techrights-sec openwashing caught on too

[07:32] schestowitz-TR openwashing caught on too

[07:32] Techrights-sec yes though the act of openwashing does not get called out enough

[07:33] schestowitz-TR I joked in IRC about Microsoft using 1995 abandonware for openwashing in PROPRIETARY shithub

[07:33] schestowitz-TR as the media is dead noboddy in "the media" called them out on it

[07:38] Techrights-sec M$ dumps abandoned code for tiny irrelevant programs and calls it supporting

[07:38] Techrights-sec Open Source or as the microsofters write it, open-source

[07:40] schestowitz-TR thenthe MSFT-sponsored "media" claps claps cmaps

[07:40] schestowitz-TR looks lik Wall Street is having some reality checks

[07:40] schestowitz-TR Lyft and Uber included

[07:40] schestowitz-TR Many people with high-risk investment are going to lose a lot of money

[07:47] Techrights-sec Uber and Lyft are scams but only on the surface, the main purpose looks to

[07:47] Techrights-sec be to knock whatremains of the bottom out of the labor market. There are now

[07:47] Techrights-sec tons of shit jobs with shit pay and part of the reason for the increase in

[07:47] Techrights-sec both is because of Uber, Lyft, and the other gig-oriented phone apps.

[07:47] Techrights-sec So anyone putting money into gig-oriented companies like Uber and Lyft are not

[07:47] Techrights-sec investing but gambling and the house always wins and the house, in that case,

[07:47] Techrights-sec uses some of its take to further attack the very concept of employment

[07:48] schestowitz-TR ebay barely brings any sales anymore

[07:48] schestowitz-TR I think it might work for very few "large sellers" who know how to "game" the system

[07:48] schestowitz-TR maybe similar to gulagtube after some changes

[07:49] Techrights-sec There are services in town here, which I won't patronize, where not only

[07:49] Techrights-sec are the workers given zero-hour contracts but also have to hire both the

[07:49] Techrights-sec space they use for work and the tools and equipment needed for said work. :(

[07:51] schestowitz-TR rianne and I spoke about car businesses that merely rent their cars

[07:51] schestowitz-TR that was yesterday afternoon

[07:51] schestowitz-TR I told her this industry sickens me and even our gym started merely renting its

[07:51] schestowitz-TR equipmetn

[07:51] schestowitz-TR "as a service"

[07:51] schestowitz-TR plus the maintenance, that's the service...

[07:51] schestowitz-TR IIRC, based on the video I saw after the Ukraine war had erupted

[07:51] schestowitz-TR most arirlines do not even own their planees

[07:51] schestowitz-TR they rent them

[07:52] Techrights-sec youtube does seem to be either on the way out or else in line for some very

[07:52] Techrights-sec major changes, beyond the ad spamming which has been recently inflicted on it

[07:52] Techrights-sec yep that's the kind of problm mentioned above

[07:52] Techrights-sec 2014 or 2022?

[07:52] Techrights-sec THe air travel industry needs a complete makeover including scrapping of most

[07:52] Techrights-sec of the existing fleet

[07:53] Techrights-sec https://youtu.be/tKodtNFpzBA

[07:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=tKodtNFpzBA

[07:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.osi.kr | The Machine that goes Ping - Invidious

[07:57] schestowitz-TR heh, some classic

[07:57] schestowitz-TR you could say it is virtual ownership

[07:57] schestowitz-TR now it is "as a service"

[07:57] schestowitz-TR "pay as you go"

[07:57] schestowitz-TR many now 'buy' their 'smart' 'phone' as a "plan" or "installman"

[07:57] schestowitz-TR spreading the fees

[07:57] schestowitz-TR so a lot of companies that "sell" things are basically links banks

[07:57] schestowitz-TR giving small loans

[07:57] schestowitz-TR ICBM included. for mainframes

[07:57] schestowitz-TR their clients are like bank clients

[07:57] schestowitz-TR paying monthly fees

[07:57] schestowitz-TR not sure what you meant by 2014 or 2022

● May 06

[08:04] Techrights-sec the attack on Ukraine

[08:04] Techrights-sec the propaganda part ofthe war started considerably earlier but the

[08:04] Techrights-sec military moved in during 2014 and the EU sat on its hands

[08:05] schestowitz-TR For 4 years there was also a seating US Lukanshnko

[08:25] schestowitz-TR I've just noticed that in today's links, with "automated" part added, something in the format

[08:25] schestowitz-TR change a little

[08:25] schestowitz-TR and some sed 'regex' would not catch what it did before

[08:25] schestowitz-TR can the change be undone?

[08:26] Techrights-sec a was added. It can be removed

[08:28] schestowitz-TR maybe tidy then changes the structure of things

[08:28] schestowitz-TR a little bit

[08:28] schestowitz-TR I've compared two files

[08:28] schestowitz-TR there are not empty </p<

[08:28] schestowitz-TR inside empty blockquote

[08:28] schestowitz-TR I actually handle these with perl

[08:29] Techrights-sec sed should never be used for HTML or any other XML / SGML derivative anyway

[08:29] Techrights-sec Ah. That is an attempt to clean up the automated links so that all items

[08:29] Techrights-sec have a similar structure regardless of whether they are empty or not.

[08:29] Techrights-sec It is part of tracking down missing descriptions

[08:29] Techrights-sec xmlstarlet is more appropriate than sed in this context

[08:30] schestowitz-TR OK, so it is that thing which led to the 'issue'

[08:31] Techrights-sec yes I think so

[08:31] Techrights-sec line breaks will also ruin sed scripts

[08:31] Techrights-sec xmlstarlet (for shell scripts) or else python or perl , etc

[08:31] schestowitz-TR it was just a dirty hack in perl to automated what I had done manually

[08:33] Techrights-sec perl but with XPath or another proper XML parser? Otherwise the brittlness

[08:33] Techrights-sec will be a pernennial problem.

[08:38] Techrights-sec Which script?

[08:38] schestowitz-TR timeline.sh

[08:38] schestowitz-TR lots of stale stuff in there too

[08:38] schestowitz-TR it's just a bunch of conversions plus other stuff on top

[08:38] schestowitz-TR preprocessng the files

[08:42] Techrights-sec That's got lots of sed

[08:43] schestowitz-TR it is a big pile of tchnical debt

[08:43] schestowitz-TR but not likely to ever be used by anyone but me

[08:50] Techrights-sec you can add a second line to process then

[08:50] Techrights-sec or else invest in xmlstarlet

[08:53] schestowitz-TR yeah, I just wondered what had changed

[08:53] schestowitz-TR a lot of the things there should really be commented out as they are

[08:53] schestowitz-TR for social control media and just add i/o overhead

[08:53] schestowitz-TR it's designed luke a thick layer of duct tape

[08:53] schestowitz-TR not even designed

[08:58] Techrights-sec "a week of coding will save an hour of planning"

[08:58] Techrights-sec try git, might need some tuning on your end

● May 06

[10:21] schestowitz-TR bbiab exercise

[10:21] Techrights-sec ack

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● May 06

[11:46] schestowitz-TR I've push some changes

[11:46] schestowitz-TR The latter change, I think, can save me about 30 secs per day and reduce chances of human

[11:46] schestowitz-TR error

[11:46] schestowitz-TR 30 secsx30 days = ~ 15 mins times 12 months = 3 hours

[11:46] schestowitz-TR I wish I had done this earlier

[11:46] schestowitz-TR I told rianne, the main question is, will this process lastg years?

[11:46] schestowitz-TR if I had known it would, I could save a ton of time

[11:47] schestowitz-TR next thurs have gulag "Meet", I will record it

[11:47] Techrights-sec it pays to periodically refactor and to aim one step ahead

[11:47] Techrights-sec checking git ...

[11:51] schestowitz-TR LOL, Ubuntu LoCo Council has begun deleting the spam or restored from backup

[11:52] schestowitz-TR or both

[11:52] schestowitz-TR today while shaving I watched some kde neon interviews with jriddell

[11:52] schestowitz-TR who was aacked by Shutjtleworth

[11:52] schestowitz-TR beccause I use his distro

[11:52] schestowitz-TR Ubuntu is "opportunist" feeding off Debian

[11:52] schestowitz-TR Daniel P sent me an email

[11:52] schestowitz-TR he will be speaking in a UN event this summer

● May 06

[12:04] Techrights-sec ack

[12:04] Techrights-sec very good, do you know in advance the topic he will present to the UN?

[12:05] schestowitz-TR I would have to open thunderbird (massive strain on swap) to check

[12:17] Techrights-sec ack

[12:38] schestowitz-TR today I have some spare time in the sense that I can sense no urgency

[12:38] schestowitz-TR so I will try to tidy up some scripts

[12:38] schestowitz-TR I've also just checked to ensure that the 'expired' SSD, based on mtime,

[12:38] schestowitz-TR does not have something I fear losing

[12:38] schestowitz-TR in case it completely breaks down

[12:38] schestowitz-TR I did the same with 'ted' in 2020

[12:38] schestowitz-TR this one can be dedeemed by a new drive, but I want to get my money's worth off of it

[12:38] Techrights-sec ack

[12:38] schestowitz-TR it does a lot of i/o in video processing

[12:38] schestowitz-TR so maybe it's a good idea to separate that machine from sensitive data

[12:39] schestowitz-TR gemini or Planet Gemini has a new section in it

[12:39] schestowitz-TR I want to improve a few things here and there

[12:39] schestowitz-TR I use that a lot

[12:39] schestowitz-TR searching workpress for "gemini://" I get 522 past posts

[12:39] schestowitz-TR some of them have over a dozen links

[12:39] schestowitz-TR I'd have to run an sql query on wrdps.posts (not revisions) to know the total

[12:40] Techrights-sec what still needed is general support with a proper gemini client packaged

[12:40] Techrights-sec for debian

[12:41] schestowitz-TR Michel packaged one for Fedora (Lagrange), days ago he packaged something for Ubuntu and said

[12:41] schestowitz-TR he would do Debian next

[12:41] schestowitz-TR Give it time, give them user

[12:41] schestowitz-TR the users themselves would sooner or later either package that themselves or ask

[12:41] schestowitz-TR someone to

[12:41] schestowitz-TR Fedora is in a tough place

[12:46] Techrights-sec fedora is mostly IBM staff and the rest only those willing to toe the IBM

[12:46] Techrights-sec line

[12:46] Techrights-sec if I understand the Fedora situation. I don't follow it much

[12:48] schestowitz-TR Yes, me saying this rep;eatedly has not helped the project, but it is true and I'd like

[12:48] schestowitz-TR to see those same volunteers putting the same effort into Arch, Gentoo, Neon etc.

[12:48] schestowitz-TR Fedora is ahead of the surve in some regard, but I think it's mostly a toy

[12:48] schestowitz-TR for IBM to get bug reports before pushing stuff to their crown jewels

● May 06

[13:04] Techrights-sec yes it looks like a development testbed for RHEL and any deviation from

[13:04] Techrights-sec that goal is squelched

[13:08] schestowitz-TR this longstanding perception has meant Fedora has not many forks or derivs

[13:08] schestowitz-TR but I think there are technical reasons for that too

[13:08] schestowitz-TR GNU/Linux is doing OK, I feel a lot more "at home" now with bleeding edge

[13:08] schestowitz-TR KDE

[13:08] schestowitz-TR but kde neon is not what I would use for a mission-critical system so to speak

[13:08] schestowitz-TR vonick is still my main machine, but the data on it I regard as transient

[13:08] schestowitz-TR even the text files I edit on there are edited over ssh

[13:08] schestowitz-TR I love this approach a great deal as it means that unless two machines are

[13:08] schestowitz-TR down at the same time your work is quite safe

[13:08] schestowitz-TR it's the master/slave approach, but we cannot say this anymore

[13:08] schestowitz-TR the main reason I bought bubi was, thunderbird is big and I don't trust a rotting

[13:08] schestowitz-TR drive with my mail boxes

[13:08] schestowitz-TR vlc on kde neon causes issues, including (I suspect) severe memory leaks

[13:33] Techrights-sec ack

[13:56] Techrights-sec I tried ordering the book "Digital Vegan" via a bookshop in the capitol

[13:56] Techrights-sec but they were not able to get ahold of it. The remaining local bookshop

[13:56] Techrights-sec doesn't take special orders any more so I am not sure of a domestec

[13:56] Techrights-sec source for the book. Ordering from the UK has some prohibitve costs

[13:56] Techrights-sec and bureaucracy attached.

● May 06

[14:02] schestowitz-TR you can see the Gemini Planet now

[14:02] schestowitz-TR I am still working on the script

[14:02] schestowitz-TR I will try to de-duplicate qith uniq or similar

[14:02] schestowitz-TR I have decided to attempt clustering, not de-duplication

[14:02] schestowitz-TR I think I need imperative programming or OOP for this, with bash scripting it can be hard

[14:02] schestowitz-TR the problem is like this:

[14:02] Techrights-sec ack

[14:02] Techrights-sec looking

[14:02] schestowitz-TR file1 file2 file3

[14:02] schestowitz-TR each has

[14:02] schestowitz-TR # Date

[14:02] schestowitz-TR under each date a list:

[14:02] schestowitz-TR => x

[14:02] schestowitz-TR => y

[14:02] schestowitz-TR =>

[14:03] schestowitz-TR we want a new file, file x, that combined for each date all the items below it

[14:03] schestowitz-TR (a sort of planet of planets)

[14:03] schestowitz-TR one option is, create a file for reach data

[14:03] schestowitz-TR and then spill onto it

[14:03] schestowitz-TR then uniq -u

[14:03] schestowitz-TR then display x latest days

[14:03] schestowitz-TR I think I might do it like that

[14:04] Techrights-sec ok

[14:04] Techrights-sec I was just thinking but don't quite understand the goal so I won't intefere

[14:08] schestowitz-TR I think I can handle it, unless "looking" is no longer applicable?

[14:08] schestowitz-TR one upside is, we are left with a dated archive of a lot of geminispace

[14:08] schestowitz-TR one file per date

[14:08] schestowitz-TR that file can, later on,

[14:08] schestowitz-TR *FILES

[14:08] schestowitz-TR be presented in one page that is an index

[14:08] schestowitz-TR so planet gemini becames like

[14:08] Techrights-sec maybe 'offsite' in the path name?

[14:08] schestowitz-TR Gemini Archive

[14:08] schestowitz-TR come to think of it... let's start with an archive

[14:08] schestowitz-TR then, presenting days {present} to {x days ago}

[14:08] schestowitz-TR is super-simple

[14:08] schestowitz-TR and we get 2 in 1

[14:08] schestowitz-TR what directory to use to not confuse people (assuming wrongly it's techrights archive)?

[14:08] schestowitz-TR gemini:techrights.org/Geminispace-Archive ?

[14:08] schestowitz-TR like Wayback machine except without local copies but just links?

[14:08] schestowitz-TR ok, offsite

[14:11] Techrights-sec or 'outerspace' ?

[14:12] schestowitz-TR some of these are Techrights (we are in some planets) and some are gopher

[14:13] Techrights-sec or 'planets' ?

[14:15] schestowitz-TR to keep it simple it'll only update the file and grow the file for the current day or past 3 days

[14:15] schestowitz-TR then leave alone older ones

[14:15] schestowitz-TR maybe /planet/archive/ ?

[14:15] Techrights-sec or 'othercapsules' ?

[14:15] schestowitz-TR yes, I will do that

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[14:49] Techrights-sec sed can kind of do that so can AWK

[14:49] Techrights-sec sed -n -e '/spat/,/e[pat/p'

[14:49] Techrights-sec sed -n -e '/spat/,/epat/p'

[14:49] Techrights-sec awk '/spat/,/epat/'

[14:49] Techrights-sec a blank line is /^$/

[14:50] schestowitz-TR can you think of trick to step grep -A NUM until some pattern in a line is found, e.g. a blank line?

[14:50] schestowitz-TR I'm close to doing all this with a one-liner of bash

[14:50] schestowitz-TR need to "delimit" the output before the prior date starts

[14:50] schestowitz-TR I think I know a trick

[14:50] schestowitz-TR do the same for prior day, then subtract the output

[14:50] schestowitz-TR thanks, getting very close now

● May 06

[15:18] Techrights-sec ack

[15:19] schestowitz-TR done

[15:19] schestowitz-TR testing now

[15:19] schestowitz-TR it is generating and regenrating today's and yesterday's

[15:19] schestowitz-TR as some items can "arrive" a day late

[15:19] schestowitz-TR I will make an index page for the archive

[15:32] Techrights-sec ack

[15:34] Techrights-sec Chris Trottier pointed out on mastodon that

[15:34] Techrights-sec 1. Microsoft paid SCO $14 million in Unix Licenses

[15:34] Techrights-sec 2. SCO debtors had to pay IBM $14,250,000

[15:39] schestowitz-TR Who is this guy and what are the connections other than the similarity in sums so many years apart?

[15:39] schestowitz-TR could be someone saw similar numbers and connected the numbers, like people connecting triange, saucers,

[15:39] schestowitz-TR and other random symbols

[15:39] schestowitz-TR or some creases on the trousers of Lady Obama

[15:40] Techrights-sec no clue

[15:40] Techrights-sec there's no corresponding blog post or article

[15:40] Techrights-sec could be

[15:40] Techrights-sec but the creases have a shape

[15:42] schestowitz-TR yes, but then that becomes an Obama strawman about First Lady literally donning a penis

[15:42] schestowitz-TR and distracts from all sorts of real Obama issues

[15:42] schestowitz-TR in the case of SCO, the payments from Microsoft are not news

[15:42] schestowitz-TR Bruce Pernes wrote about it in Linux.com

[15:42] schestowitz-TR before the site became a shit dump

[15:43] Techrights-sec https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/30/sco_tsg_vs_ibm_settlement/

[15:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | SCO v. IBM settlement deal is done, but zombie case shuffles on elsewhere The Register

[15:48] Techrights-sec https://www.heise.de/news/SCO-vs-Linux-IBM-soll-14-25-Millionen-US-Dollar-zahlen-6179831.html

[15:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.heise.de | SCO vs. Linux: IBM soll 14,25 Millionen US-Dollar zahlen | heise online

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[16:04] Techrights-sec not finding anything recent on SCO

[16:04] schestowitz-TR it's like novell, just some history lesson

[16:04] schestowitz-TR (of course some try to change history and present distortion versions of it)

[16:04] schestowitz-TR like OSI deleting the halloween documents from tis site and taking microsoft bribes

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[16:17] Techrights-sec not finding anything recent on SCO

[16:17] Techrights-sec yes in the quiet interval, the revisionists can push their agenda more easily

[16:17] Techrights-sec ack

[16:17] Techrights-sec " my fellow boardmembers at the Open Source Initiative made me move this off the OSI site"

[16:17] Techrights-sec http://www.catb.org/~esr/not-the-osi/halloween-rant.html

[16:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.catb.org | The Halloween Documents: An Appreciation

[16:21] schestowitz-TR boardmembers - whose?

[16:21] schestowitz-TR that's why I don't like such orgs

[16:21] schestowitz-TR later they also banned him

[16:21] schestowitz-TR pay money, become boardmember/s, oust the org from the guy inside out

[16:21] schestowitz-TR like in eff

[16:21] schestowitz-TR except in eff one died on his own

[16:21] schestowitz-TR and his friend didn't enjoy protection anymore

[16:21] schestowitz-TR at the end the money calls the shots

[16:21] schestowitz-TR btw, rianne left bargain-hunting 10 mins ago

[16:21] schestowitz-TR before she left she told me almost 20k workers in groceries will now be redundant

[16:21] schestowitz-TR as mccools, where we find the most discounted goods, is going bust :(

[16:21] schestowitz-TR that can impact our food bill

[16:21] Techrights-sec pay to play

[16:21] Techrights-sec they set up the organization for such a take over, either naively or

[16:21] Techrights-sec intentionally

[16:21] Techrights-sec "redundant" == fired for increased short term profit, long term loss

[16:23] schestowitz-TR no, the whole company goes into "administration"

[16:23] schestowitz-TR britishism for going under

[16:23] schestowitz-TR there is no rescue plan

[16:23] schestowitz-TR we can expect all the stores to shut down

[16:23] schestowitz-TR with some of our friends who sell us food

[16:23] schestowitz-TR this is a big blow, the other stores are further away and don't stock same discount levels

[16:23] schestowitz-TR in mccolls we got used to finding milk or bread for just 10p given the right times

[16:23] schestowitz-TR paying full price for food when prices soar is a bad thing

[16:24] Techrights-sec well that sucks then

[16:24] Techrights-sec the gradual creation of food deserts in the city

[16:25] schestowitz-TR this changes many calculations

[16:25] schestowitz-TR inc. quitting the company

[16:25] schestowitz-TR if we no longer go to the gym and if we cannot find good discounts in many stores in town, we can

[16:25] schestowitz-TR move further away from the city

[16:26] schestowitz-TR at the moment home prices are a bubble

[16:26] schestowitz-TR bad time to buy one

[16:35] schestowitz-TR quick thoughts

[16:35] schestowitz-TR I have 3 tests left to do here

[16:35] schestowitz-TR re fb, cnetralised comms was always easier, now it's innovation to move back to it?

[16:35] schestowitz-TR news/media very slow today, rianne barely found anything

[16:35] schestowitz-TR re tests, i added a new page called latest

[16:35] schestowitz-TR it's a combined page for all capsules for today and yesterday

[16:35] schestowitz-TR as expected, as a whole it takes longer than initially expected, mostly because I add more things that I

[16:35] schestowitz-TR had intended at first

[16:35] schestowitz-TR gemini will soon be about 10% of our Daily Links

[16:35] Techrights-sec every day is a slow news day in recent years

[16:36] Techrights-sec amfora and elpa-elpher are both in Debian now!!

[16:37] Techrights-sec Devuan 5 (daedalus)

[16:37] schestowitz-TR good news.

[16:37] schestowitz-TR debian 10, 11, or both? I can do a video where I show 'live' how to add it

[16:37] schestowitz-TR and to say it's aded to debian, hence sparkylinux etc.

[16:37] schestowitz-TR let me apt search on 10 and 11

[16:38] Techrights-sec elpa-elpher is in Raspberry Pi OS so far

[16:38] Techrights-sec ack

[16:44] schestowitz-TR I have just chedked. bullseye has elpher and 10 (buster) had none

[16:44] schestowitz-TR so maybe it's a devuan thing

[16:44] schestowitz-TR or maybe some other explanation

[16:52] Techrights-sec ack

[16:52] Techrights-sec it's based on Bookworm (debian 12)

[16:52] schestowitz-TR deadalus based on deadian, as MinceR might say

[16:55] Techrights-sec yes it is a cleaned up version of debian but the question is whether

[16:55] Techrights-sec systemd can metastacize faster than dvuan can excise it

[16:55] Techrights-sec maybe if more debian derivatives join in ...

[16:58] Techrights-sec https://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros

[16:58] Techrights-sec https://distrowatch.com/search.php?basedon=Devuan#simple

[16:58] Techrights-sec that second link does not give accurate results

[16:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.devuan.org | Devuan-Based Distributions | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System

[16:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.

● May 06

[17:01] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/index.gmi

[17:01] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/

[17:02] schestowitz if this looks OK to you, I shall push to git.

[17:02] schestowitz-TR forgot the most important page:

[17:02] schestowitz-TR gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/latest

[17:04] schestowitz-TR found and fixed another bug just now, wrong date was shown in a title

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[17:10] Techrights-sec ack

[17:10] Techrights-sec what's with all the cyrillic?

[17:11] schestowitz-TR CAPCOM syndicates at least one russian capsule

[17:16] schestowitz-TR UK COVID-19 Deaths 'Backlog' http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/06/uk-deaths-covid-19-in-april/

[17:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Deaths Backlog

[17:16] schestowitz-TR OTA (will mention buster/boomwork/bullseye)

[17:16] schestowitz-TR *bookworm

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● May 06

[18:06] schestowitz-TR draft

[18:21] Techrights-sec ack

[18:21] Techrights-sec the link to distrowatch is, as mentioned above, wrong

[18:21] schestowitz-TR what to use instead?

[18:22] Techrights-sec the one from devuan above

[18:22] schestowitz-TR the link is there in the post as well

[18:24] Techrights-sec yes but the distrowatch one should be removed since it is wrong

[18:25] schestowitz-TR I will put wikipedia there instead

[18:25] Techrights-sec great

[18:28] Techrights-sec the "based on" link ought to go to wikipedia;

[18:28] Techrights-sec the "impact many" ought to be the https://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros

[18:28] Techrights-sec link

[18:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.devuan.org | Devuan-Based Distributions | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System

● May 06

[20:01] Techrights-sec http://web.archive.org/web/20021215191808/opensource.org/halloween/halloween1.php

[20:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Open Source Initiative OSI - Doc1:Halloween Documents

[20:32] schestowitz-TR Social control media is bad for you https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/social-media-break-improves-mental-health-new-study/

[20:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bath.ac.uk | Social media break improves mental health new study

[20:32] SomeH4x0r is IRC social control media?

[20:33] SomeH4x0r I have nothing to do irl

[20:33] SomeH4x0r idk if I'm autistic or something, but I think my life is fucked up

[20:33] schestowitz-TR being in ukraine at the moment is hard

[20:33] SomeH4x0r it is not about Ukraine

[20:33] schestowitz-TR IRC predates by 15 years what media dubbed "social"

[20:33] SomeH4x0r the war is not relevant for this

[20:34] schestowitz-TR you said your parents are abusive towards you

[20:34] schestowitz-TR but that's a personal thing

[20:35] SomeH4x0r there is no proper way to raise a child, I think

[20:35] SomeH4x0r I "live" online. No irl friends, reality being annoyance.

[20:36] SomeH4x0r I used to escape the reality in MMO games, though then I realized they are evil, and quit them

[20:38] schestowitz-TR they are addictive

[20:38] schestowitz-TR and they are controlled by a corporation

[20:38] schestowitz-TR governments are too

[20:38] schestowitz-TR but not one corporation

[20:39] SomeH4x0r yes, so I quit

[20:41] schestowitz-TR good, it's not easy

[20:41] schestowitz-TR all of these things designed to addict are better avoided to begin with

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