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● Oct 03

[06:10] schestowitz-TR "Josh and Kurt talk about a blog post that explains there isnt really an open source software supply chain. The whole idea of open source being one thing is incorrect, open source is really a lot of little things put together. A lot of companies and organizations get this wrong." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/10/02/episode-343-stop-trying-to-fix-the-open-source-software-supply-chain/

[06:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 343 Stop trying to fix the open source software supply chain Open Source Security

[06:10] schestowitz-TR they seem to be saying more or less the same as what I said about it

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[08:12] Techrights-sec They seem to failing to see, or perhaps denying, the distributed, decentralized

[08:12] Techrights-sec nature of FOSS. There's a lot of emergent behavior as it is sometimes called.

[08:12] Techrights-sec from the FOSS side. There are also powerful or at least influential opponents

[08:12] Techrights-sec who work for the very idea of decentralization to disappear. So of course

[08:12] Techrights-sec they will not ever acknowledge it.

[08:13] schestowitz-TR tes, this is why we fight back, if not on practical grounds then at least correcting the narrative

[08:13] schestowitz-TR Jimmy and the Sunshine boys get paid to distort the narrative

[08:13] schestowitz-TR to make FS look bad

[08:13] schestowitz-TR and pass control to Pentagon contractors

[08:13] schestowitz-TR that's how it is

[08:13] schestowitz-TR calling spade a "spade

[08:13] Techrights-sec

[08:13] Techrights-sec ack

[08:14] schestowitz-TR Snyky Jimmy

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[08:27] Techrights-sec :(

[08:27] Techrights-sec Or Blackduck

[08:28] schestowitz-TR DenyDuck got bought

[08:28] schestowitz-TR and tbh I think they don't do well

[08:28] schestowitz-TR the past 2 years they're barely visible

[08:28] schestowitz-TR and unlike Synk they don't have much funded, I think

[08:28] schestowitz-TR OSI turned them away, but not LF

[08:28] schestowitz-TR irinically OSI then took money from Microsoft itself

[08:41] Techrights-sec Wasn't there a third FUD machine too? Snyk, Blackduck, ____

[08:41] Techrights-sec It's helpful that Blackduck is doing poorly, they had no value added

[08:41] Techrights-sec and peddled only FUD. Eventually that became univerally known and their

[08:41] Techrights-sec credibility vanished even among those that wanted to rent some FUD

[08:41] Techrights-sec https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/02/fifteen-year-old-black-duck-software-gets-its-exit-selling-to-synopsys-for-565-million/

[08:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fifteen-year-old Black Duck Software gets its exit, selling to Synopsys for $565 million TechCrunch

[08:42] schestowitz-TR WhiteSOurce

[08:42] schestowitz-TR didn't even heard of them in years

[08:42] schestowitz-TR maybe defunct

[08:42] schestowitz-TR OpenLogic was gone for years, then mentioned a little lately, I think OSI works with them

[08:42] schestowitz-TR closing a Microsoft circle (jerks)

[08:42] schestowitz-TR OpenLogic is where Microsoft's Stormy Peters came from too (after HP, IIRC)

[08:42] schestowitz-TR working for a Microsofter

[08:42] schestowitz-TR Bruce Perens called them out on it

[08:42] schestowitz-TR DenyDuck wrote some numbers on papers to "lookl good"

[08:42] schestowitz-TR there was no truck of 'Benjamins'

[08:42] schestowitz-TR a lot of this sector is sheer fraud, like Sheela Microsoft's Bakkt

[08:46] Techrights-sec Yes, that is the whole point, to peddle fraud. Managers with unfounded opininons contact them wishing to buy some backing supporting their bad decisions

[08:46] Techrights-sec based on unfounded opinions (instead of empirical facts). That buys them

[08:46] Techrights-sec time to either blame someone or something else for their bad decisions or

[08:46] Techrights-sec time to find a new job so that the collapse in someone else's responsibility.

[08:48] schestowitz-TR zero-sum where "I steal your money" with 'clever' ploy

[08:48] schestowitz-TR instead of creating anything of real value

[08:48] schestowitz-TR same in her prior employers

[08:48] schestowitz-TR prpopaganda mills and resellers of Microsoft

[08:48] schestowitz-TR snyk = DenyDuck 1.1

[08:48] schestowitz-TR SFC= OSI 1.1

[08:48] schestowitz-TR LF = stuart cohen (OSDL) reborn, first with a mask for a few years (Murdock as CTO), until they get the straitjacket on LT and his circle

[08:48] Techrights-sec ck

[08:50] schestowitz-TR ck lewis ;-)

[08:50] schestowitz-TR after workout I'll record 2 epo videos

[08:50] schestowitz-TR I ended up covering GPL plagiarism in a post, not a video

[08:50] schestowitz-TR rianne goes to hand over to final docs/papers to the solicitors at noon

[08:50] schestowitz-TR i don't see how they can turn down the application

[08:50] schestowitz-TR truss will have caused brain drain by now

[08:50] schestowitz-TR not that any other country thrives atm

[08:50] Techrights-sec excellent

[08:52] Techrights-sec truss has already added to the damage caused by bojotheclown

[08:56] schestowitz-TR yes, I could go on and on about it

[08:56] schestowitz-TR but refrained in recent years as I don't wish to get in trouble with the local authss

[08:56] schestowitz-TR gchq is about 700 meters from us in heron house

[08:56] schestowitz-TR and rianne has this application

[08:56] schestowitz-TR don't want them to identify the spouse on some "list"

[08:56] schestowitz-TR so I focus on stuff like EPO instead

[08:56] schestowitz-TR I keep explaining to my dad,

[08:56] schestowitz-TR to us the current turmoil is not that big a deal

[08:56] schestowitz-TR because we live in a bubble of choice

[08:57] schestowitz-TR working from home, buying discounts like 80% of the time

[08:57] schestowitz-TR inc. this laptop I'm using right now

[08:57] schestowitz-TR you can now get them even cheaper, it's amazing!

[08:57] schestowitz-TR not that I need another laptop, rianne and I use 7 machines, not counting the pi that's in the living roomn acting mostly

[08:57] schestowitz-TR as server, http proxy, gemini, file storage, backup (5am each morning), and few other things

[08:57] schestowitz-TR I turned off the LEDs a few months ago to save energy until it's positioned somewhere more visible

[08:57] schestowitz-TR it's still running ipfs but throttled

[08:58] Techrights-sec ack

[08:58] Techrights-sec Just avoid laptops with Nvidia=

● Oct 03

[09:00] schestowitz-TR in RELATIVE terms, Manchester is doing OK because of foreign investment, inc. football and estate

[09:00] schestowitz-TR we have an influx of residents

[09:00] schestowitz-TR but that won't last forever

[09:00] schestowitz-TR this latest laptop is neat, good bang for the buck

[09:00] schestowitz-TR athlon+radeon so can do video acceleration too

[09:00] schestowitz-TR it mostly does kate, lagrange, many terminals, and xchat

[09:00] schestowitz-TR oh, obs studio sometimes, but it can cope

[09:00] schestowitz-TR the footprint (ram) of the above is small

[09:00] schestowitz-TR thunderbird is like 5 times more than all the above combined

[09:01] Techrights-sec ack

[09:05] schestowitz-TR checking...

[09:05] schestowitz-TR I don't know the answer.

[09:05] schestowitz-TR regarding the buttoms, I reckon I'll fit them onto that or another Pi

[09:05] schestowitz-TR I don't have a soldering gun and borrowing is harder when I try to avoid people

[09:05] schestowitz-TR I limit myself to one "outsider" if it's very important like getting a reference for the application

[09:05] schestowitz-TR a risk worth taking

[09:05] schestowitz-TR (there was something else, not important, that I wanted to utter but forgot. will pass, move on..)

[09:06] Techrights-sec If TR is redon based on what we've learned from migrating TM, it should

[09:06] Techrights-sec probably use full time stamps internally.

[09:12] schestowitz-TR i get distracted by irc a lot

[09:12] schestowitz-TR it never truly stopds

[09:12] schestowitz-TR and not predictable either

[09:12] schestowitz-TR but s/n ratio is OK

[09:12] schestowitz-TR (dang, still trying to recall the not-so-important thign I forgot, despite knowing it was rubbish)

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● Oct 03

[10:27] Techrights-sec excellent

[10:44] schestowitz-TR abck from workout, will record soon

[10:44] schestowitz-TR irc ver on-optic

[10:44] schestowitz-TR politics are in #techpol

[10:44] schestowitz-TR it's good that I finsihed meeting those whom I needed to meet

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[13:15] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/

[13:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.it

[13:16] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/

[13:16] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1576881797618466821#m

[13:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "Linux Foundation makes 200.000.000USD/year, not bad for a charity http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/pseudo-charitable-front-group/"|nitter.it

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[16:23] schestowitz-TR "FOSSlife Team" = Microsoft liars. Watch them helping Microsoft... basically protecting criminals by blaming "Open Source" https://www.fosslife.org/hackers-target-it-staff-fake-job-offers-and-open-source-software see http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/

[16:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Hackers Use Fake Job Offers and Open Source Software to Target IT Staff

[16:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights

[16:23] schestowitz-TR OTA

[16:24] schestowitz-TR "Club LF"

[16:24] schestowitz-TR (LPI)

[16:24] schestowitz-TR Microsoft pays, we parrot

[16:24] schestowitz-TR the L in LPI stands for "Linux"

[16:25] Techrights-sec ack

[16:25] Techrights-sec that's how it usually works, once there are sellouts on staff or in decision

[16:25] Techrights-sec making positions. worst of all is the situation where there are actual

[16:25] Techrights-sec microsofters inside the organization.

[16:26] schestowitz-TR just checked, it links to a Microsoft operative inside ZDNet

[16:26] schestowitz-TR Liam Tung

[16:26] schestowitz-TR ZDNet is a Microsoft/LF hostile force

[16:26] schestowitz-TR I'm told lwn is too, but it's nowhere as bad as this

[16:28] Techrights-sec LWN was important, like ZDNet too though well over a decade ago

[16:30] schestowitz-TR Wow, the Web site of Spamnil is about as ignored as his videos. "13 views"... what's the point even running the thing?

[16:35] schestowitz-TR is it wolrth reviving the free software credibility index?

[16:35] schestowitz-TR btw, rianne submitted all the papers today

● Oct 03

[17:09] schestowitz-TR I was just reading some recipes

[17:09] schestowitz-TR no JS

[17:09] schestowitz-TR (gemini)

[17:10] Techrights-sec :)

[17:12] schestowitz-TR 1990s WWW: we send you description of a page. 2000s: we send you a page linked to other pages and light code to enhance appearance. 2010s: you need some big programs for easier navigation in site. 2020s: you cannot enter our site at all until you download and run our proprietary JS bundles.

[17:18] Techrights-sec :)

[17:18] Techrights-sec 2020s we send an unauthenticated program to run amok on your system's resources

[17:19] schestowitz-TR it is an improvement over sending you some .EXE file to run on WIndows

[17:19] schestowitz-TR but a big step back considering what COULD be accomplished with Web standards

[17:21] schestowitz-TR Chrome has already becme an "OS". See what ryan wrote about it this morning.

[17:21] schestowitz-TR and what mozilla means to Gulag.

[17:22] Techrights-sec Chrome (Chromium) as well as FF are no longer browsers but the crappiest,

[17:22] Techrights-sec leakiest, and most insecure and inefficient form of VM

[17:22] Techrights-sec FFS skip the browser and just have people fetch a docker or qemu image >:(

[17:22] Techrights-sec That's the logical next step.

[17:24] schestowitz-TR they use terms like sandbox and container

[17:24] schestowitz-TR can you imagine using such a contruct to read recipes that I send to rianne if I like them?

[17:24] schestowitz-TR maybe an ol' grandma's recipe book too should be a "VM"

[17:24] schestowitz-TR with userspace and doas?

[17:24] schestowitz-TR doas over

[17:24] schestowitz-TR *doas oven

[17:25] schestowitz-TR is that compatgible with screen readers? if not, you can make a complaint

[17:28] schestowitz-TR reminds me of activescript/trash/swf files as 'sites'

[17:28] schestowitz-TR that was 1990s as well

[17:28] schestowitz-TR the web has bad ideas

[17:28] schestowitz-TR sometimes they perish after a while

[17:28] schestowitz-TR but this time around it's like activex except it penetrates mobile too

[17:28] schestowitz-TR this could doom the web

[17:28] schestowitz-TR maybe mobile "apps" are built with web/js frameworks

[17:28] schestowitz-TR this is why a "modern" phone needs so many CPUs cores and has a battery like or old portable televisions

[17:28] schestowitz-TR *life

[17:29] Techrights-sec Those caused almost as much damage, the difference being was that ActiveX was

[17:29] Techrights-sec only on optional sites; Now days the javascripts are the only gatekeepers to

[17:29] Techrights-sec essential services.

[17:29] schestowitz-TR in south korea activex penetrated banks and iirc gov. sites

[17:30] Techrights-sec 11 cores? Ok, not 11 but way too many : https://cellularnews.com/mobile-phone/best-mobile-processors-top-10-high-performing-smartphones/

[17:30] Techrights-sec No wonder there is an electricity crisis with all those billions of phones

[17:30] Techrights-sec (portable supercomputers) needing recharging many times a day.

[17:30] Techrights-sec Then to add further injury, the wall warts are usually left plugged in when

[17:30] Techrights-sec not charging by the dickheads using the "phones"

[17:30] Techrights-sec Yes, South Korea has borderline terminal stage microsoftianism

[17:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cellularnews.com | Best Mobile Processors: Top 10 High Performing Smartphones

[17:34] schestowitz-TR based on stattcounter korea is slow to dopt gnu/linux

[17:34] schestowitz-TR i last chedked today, hoping to spot a change

[17:34] schestowitz-TR the country has a cultural problem

[17:34] schestowitz-TR and so concepts like software freedom fall on deaf ears

[17:34] schestowitz-TR an american tech who worked with koreans explained this to me over a decade ago

[17:34] schestowitz-TR after he had wrapped his head around thr way they think

[17:34] schestowitz-TR seoul mikght be ok for holiday, but that's it

[17:34] schestowitz-TR trhey immerse their life in the dumbest tech

[17:34] schestowitz-TR similar to japanese, but there are differences

[17:34] schestowitz-TR like robotics vs tech inside your toilets

[17:35] schestowitz-TR or kpop vs jpop

[17:35] schestowitz-TR they are not the same

[17:35] schestowitz-TR but rather depressing vision of life and existence and being

[17:35] schestowitz-TR a swede neighbour once told me they're know to be wortking strityluy 5 to 9 but not beyond

[17:35] schestowitz-TR then there't he ubi thing

[17:35] schestowitz-TR i think germans are like this too

[17:35] schestowitz-TR brits just go to the pub with colleagues, but stay extra hours sometimes

[17:37] Techrights-sec The country does not exist independently. It is a vassal state of M$

[17:37] Techrights-sec It's been like that since the 1990s

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[17:44] Techrights-sec otr: holy shit is it hard to find mention of her book online

[17:44] schestowitz-TR are you using baskersoft fartfox?

[17:44] schestowitz-TR *bakersoft?

[17:50] schestowitz-TR going to post daily links, then take a break (rest)

[17:50] schestowitz-TR good news: not so much microsoft spam/googlebombs so far this week

[17:50] schestowitz-TR great news: irc s/n ratio was OK today and rianne got a lot done

[17:50] schestowitz-TR annoying: seeing some new epo trash, but my expectations from reforms are low anyway

[17:50] schestowitz-TR side note: earlier today i wasnted to tell rianner about the "immune-resistant" variant and then forgot to

[17:50] schestowitz-TR when she came back home I suddenly remembered

[17:50] schestowitz-TR so mystery solved

[17:50] schestowitz-TR we like such news because it reaffirms our choices

[17:50] schestowitz-TR though it's cruel re eollctive interest

[17:50] Techrights-sec ... for some definitions of OK :/

[17:50] Techrights-sec ack

[17:51] schestowitz-TR any improvement in S/N (IRC) is good news

[17:51] schestowitz-TR techpol is active

[17:53] schestowitz-TR rant: icewm is on github

[17:53] schestowitz-TR maybe predating microsoft, but still

[17:53] schestowitz-TR phoronix links a LOT to github

[17:53] schestowitz-TR even when it's just a mirror

[17:53] schestowitz-TR or an offical independent site has the same news or better

[17:53] Techrights-sec many remain there on GitHub for a variety of invalid reasons

[17:53] schestowitz-TR lwn quality did not worsen, it was always like that

[17:53] schestowitz-TR phoronix, otho, did worsen

[17:53] schestowitz-TR and you can smell the "businessman" from a mile (he prefers the term "enterprenuer")

[17:54] schestowitz-TR i hope microsoft loses a LOT of money there

[17:54] schestowitz-TR the other day a blogger you follow shilled GitHub Actions

[17:54] schestowitz-TR i didn't link to that

[17:54] schestowitz-TR he praised it

[17:54] schestowitz-TR but they lose money on it

[17:54] schestowitz-TR they entice peopple with workfload 'freebies'

[17:54] schestowitz-TR it's not free

[17:54] schestowitz-TR it's manipulating of the market

[17:54] schestowitz-TR *tion

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[18:01] Techrights-sec bill has shown time and again that he is willing to lose money in an area

[18:01] Techrights-sec indefinitely just to ensure that no one else makes money there either

[18:01] Techrights-sec Then related to that you have the long list of economically unviable purchases

[18:01] Techrights-sec make, appartently, only to prevent GNU/Linux and other FOSS systems from

[18:01] Techrights-sec establishing a foothold in any visible market. Mojang was one example,

[18:01] Techrights-sec there was starting to be a generation of kids that were finding out how

[18:01] Techrights-sec much better any of the GNU/Linux distros were and induced absolute panic

[18:01] Techrights-sec in Redmond by actually beginning how to learn to use said distros.

[18:01] Techrights-sec The kids did not care about freedom, yet, but would have been exposed eventually

[18:01] Techrights-sec What they were interested in was the better performance and improved ease of

[18:02] Techrights-sec use of Minecraft on Linux over Minecraft on windoze

[18:03] Techrights-sec https://www.engadget.com/2015-03-04-minecraft-notch-mojang-microsoft-purchase.html

[18:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft bought 'Minecraft' after a single tweet by its creator | Engadget

[18:04] schestowitz-TR it used to be OK until FF started experiumenting with url abbreviation

[18:05] schestowitz-TR and gulag started rewriting urls using JS

[18:05] schestowitz-TR for tracking purposes

[18:05] schestowitz-TR anyway, lagrange also sucks at copy/paste support

[18:05] Techrights-sec Yes they both also hide the real URL

[18:05] schestowitz-TR fwiw

[18:06] schestowitz-TR the status bar does not help and FF does not intercept and undo this behaviour

[18:06] schestowitz-TR it's like mozilla is funded by gulag or something.......

[18:06] Techrights-sec :/

[18:43] schestowitz-TR rest

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[22:26] Techrights-sec ack

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