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[02:15] schestowitz-TR rms ukraine talk accesed another 6.2k times this past week

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[03:01] Techrights-sec It's popular and people seek out his knowledge and advice.

[03:01] Techrights-sec The talk in Poland would have been very interesting,, especially for the

[03:01] Techrights-sec Q&A because of the very different audience.

[03:01] Techrights-sec Indeed. The world benefits greatly from his activity. I hope that the FSF

[03:01] Techrights-sec is on steady feet by the time he retires or passes on. There will likely be

[03:01] Techrights-sec a move or two against the FSF from the outside or even the inside at such time.

[03:01] Techrights-sec TBL cracked though. EME was the final blow which finished off the WWW.

[03:01] Techrights-sec Now the WWW is whatever Google, Facebook, and Amazon decide it will be,

[03:01] Techrights-sec and that is bloated, proprietary surveillance.

[03:01] Techrights-sec Mozilla is playing along with that. I had a thought about that earlier.

[03:01] Techrights-sec How possible is it that the Mozilla CEO is only playing independent and

[03:01] Techrights-sec is colluding with Google on some level? There are several hundreds of millions

[03:01] Techrights-sec of reasons per year for that to be a possibility.

[03:01] Techrights-sec Well if it looks like a duck, ...

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[07:50] Techrights-sec Regarding the origins and inspirations for the WWW, Wikipedia, and Creative

[07:50] Techrights-sec Commons, there has been a lot of revisionism or at least omission lately.

[07:50] Techrights-sec RMS used to get mentioned a lot more before the last 10 years of campaigns

[07:50] Techrights-sec to wipe him and the F-word from history.

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[08:00] Techrights-sec Also Linus stated and emphasized that choosing the GPL for Linux was one

[08:00] Techrights-sec of his best decisions. Those might have been the real words which actually

[08:00] Techrights-sec got him in trouble more recently.

[08:01] schestowitz-TR Did you see the new SEATTLE event where he was asked about Rust?

[08:01] schestowitz-TR 2+2=5

[08:10] schestowitz 4th and 5th - publication is a PAID LF mouthpiece -- I thought about chasing the video to pursue the part abour Rust: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156364

[08:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Rusted Kernel and Torvalds' Views About It | Tux Machines

[08:10] Techrights-sec I missed that. Seattle venues are unlikely to host events that lead to

[08:10] Techrights-sec constructive dialog. Can you post a link?

[08:10] Techrights-sec Linus has consistently pointed out the advantages of C over the others.

[08:10] Techrights-sec Some of the claimed advantages of Rust are not there.

[08:13] schestowitz-TR github is still on their TODO list

[08:19] Techrights-sec Unable to connect.

[08:19] Techrights-sec Was it this video? https://youtu.be/H8Gd9t7FQqI

[08:19] Techrights-sec According to the one picture, he has aged terribly during the last year:

[08:19] Techrights-sec https://thenewstack.io/linus-torvalds-on-community-rust-and-linuxs-longevity/

[08:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Keynote: Linus Torvalds in conversation with Dirk Hohndel - YouTube

[08:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thenewstack.io | Linus Torvalds on Community, Rust and Linuxs Longevity The New Stack

[08:20] schestowitz-TR he is catching up with RMS. All he needs is a beard now. Did you fail to connect to TM???

[08:23] Techrights-sec Yes, for a few minutes.

[08:23] Techrights-sec TM was unavailable via HTTP.

[08:23] Techrights-sec "The New Stack" article makes selective quotes so it is hard to see the full

[08:23] Techrights-sec context of Linus' comments about Rust. However, the one quote does show

[08:23] Techrights-sec that it will start to taint the mainline kernel soon. BBBBB

[08:23] schestowitz-TR This publisher is a malicious LF mouthpiece that pushes CoC and worse

[08:29] Techrights-sec

[08:29] Techrights-sec I do not trust "The New Stack" at all. that's one of the reasons I'd like to

[08:29] Techrights-sec see the comments in their context. Rust is more about political control, IMO

[08:29] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language)#Governance

[08:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Rust (programming language) - Wikipedia

[08:29] Techrights-sec Google is on that list twice, the second time being via Mozilla.

[08:29] Techrights-sec Often the posts quote but come across as being first person. :/

[08:29] schestowitz-TR This one was an accident and is rare

[08:30] schestowitz-TR I'd rather not comment on LT's aging but instead show the parts where he speaks about Rust, though I feel he says what he feels he's 'supposed' to say

[08:35] Techrights-sec Will they publish the video of the talk with LT and Dirk?

[08:35] Techrights-sec I suppose it was too recent to get into Google's Youtube yet:

[08:35] Techrights-sec https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/

[08:35] Techrights-sec Presumably everything is ready and they are just waiting.

[08:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-events.linuxfoundation.org | Open Source Summit | Linux Foundation Events

[08:35] schestowitz-TR you can see this is on slashdot already, with LF "sponsored" publisher, i.e. PR

[08:37] schestowitz-TR BTW, LT "did a Trump" -- compensating for aging with tanning

[08:49] Techrights-sec Slashdot only has the TNS article no video.

[08:49] Techrights-sec He used to, and may still, scuba dive. IIRC he mentioned a preference

[08:49] Techrights-sec for warm water. So that will entail a lot of time out of the water

[08:49] Techrights-sec in the sun, relaxing. I doubt he would enjoy the cold water of Narvik,

[08:49] Techrights-sec for example.

[08:49] Techrights-sec Even if the diving is supposed to be great.

[08:49] Techrights-sec That couold explain the tan.

[08:49] schestowitz-TR my sister lives near him

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[09:07] schestowitz-TR maybe I'll do a video about all this, going through what is known

[09:10] Techrights-sec ack

[09:10] Techrights-sec Just as Debian is upstream for many distros, RMS and the GPL are upstream

[09:10] Techrights-sec for many projeccts.

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