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[06:20] techrights[sec] People /still/ don't see ByteDance for what it is, even in spite of

[06:20] techrights[sec] the CBS 60 Minutes segement covering it.

[06:20] techrights[sec] https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/S0bgsSTHv87osLyzWtLXib0kgmTYBc1B/

[06:20] techrights[sec] https://theglobalherald.com/news/tiktok-in-china-versus-the-united-states-60-minutes/

[06:20] techrights[sec] It's not a privacy matter, it's more health matter. More than that, it

[06:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Watch 60 Minutes: The question about TikTok - Full show on CBS

[06:20] techrights[sec] is a culture, value, mores, and customs matter. The kids which have been

[06:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-theglobalherald.com | TikTok in China versus the United States | 60 Minutes - The Global Herald

[06:20] techrights[sec] programmed by ByteDance via Tiktok may speak English natively but are not

[06:20] techrights[sec] American

[06:21] techrights[sec] It (ByteDance) does need to be banned.

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[07:42] techrights[sec] More precisely it is psychological warfare, out to harm and destroy.

[07:42] techrights[sec] It gets ignore because it is "on a phone"

[07:42] schestowitz-pi2 no wonder thy hire lobbyists, rebranded, and bought puff pieces lately

[07:51] schestowitz-pi2 "This reflects a loss of 4,638,508 sites, 240,148 domains and 13,907 computers". The Web is shrinking. Many sites go offline. https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2023/02/28/february-2023-web-server-survey.html

[07:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.netcraft.com | February 2023 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News

● Mar 02

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 i think i got into the rhythm and am posting more articles, linsk etc.

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 while culling bad ones

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 i must admit: it's MENTALLY DIFFICULT to not have RSS reader in the routine

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 for the sole reason that I used one for 20 years

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 now, I always feel like I "need to check out RSS feeds"

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 but remind myself rssoql/thunderbird/quiterss are no more

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 *rssowl (iirc, the first one I used)

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 so everything goes through kate by defauly

[09:37] schestowitz-pi2 editor and command lane

[09:38] schestowitz-pi2 *line

[09:38] schestowitz-pi2 kate has a command lne component too, but I prefer terminals detached

[09:38] schestowitz-pi2 vonick has about 20 terminals, two for password management

[09:38] techrights[sec] The new work flow cuts way down on unscheduled surfing, at least for me.

[09:42] schestowitz-pi2 in a sense, the programs have turned the www into gemini

[09:42] schestowitz-pi2 or plain text with mild formatting

[09:42] schestowitz-pi2 mind as in, just some formatting and hypertext, href

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 that in itself can be more readable then a web page because i don't need to click or hover on links

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 i can see right there in the text where they'd go

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 years ago I did wonder if I could quickly extrtact richer text than what I got off quiterss (uses blink or simi

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 lar)

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 today i configured the desk to dim down all screens except one when afk

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 turns out we pay for power almost half what some other couples pay

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 but i want to stretch it further so that never again i'll do a job i don't like for companies I cannot trust

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 i'd work casually, upon needs, there's a new report saying for "Software Development" 40% of workers

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 will one day be "remote"

[09:43] schestowitz-pi2 the important thing is to keep the skills and practice them

[09:46] schestowitz-pi2 m

[09:46] schestowitz-pi2 the unlterior goal is to transition from "i earn, you earn" to "i work all year long, you are free to do projec

[09:46] schestowitz-pi2 ts"

[09:47] schestowitz-pi2 iow, competing over salaries vs. competing over freedom/happiness (very few jobs mean "freedom")

[09:55] techrights[sec] The push for new PCs is about getting TPM2.0 out among the population in

[09:55] techrights[sec] great enough concentrations as to be able to force more software compliance

[09:55] techrights[sec] Less freedom becomes even theorertically possible with each step in that

[09:55] techrights[sec] direction.

[09:56] schestowitz-pi2 TPM2 is being pushed by Club Gulagboy into Linux

[09:56] schestowitz-pi2 Torvalds can no longer speak his mind out

[09:56] schestowitz-pi2 that's "hate"

[09:59] schestowitz-pi2 "reason: Because a Chinese company owns TikTok a smart phone app for creating and sharing short videos the Chinese government may be using it to spy" https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/03/02/the-proposed-tiktok-ban-goes-too-far-the-current-tiktok-ban-doesnt-go-far-enough/ | Source: Counter Punch

[09:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Proposed TikTok Ban Goes Too Far. The Current TikTok Ban Doesn't Go Far Enough. - CounterPunch.org

[09:59] schestowitz-pi2 the worst part about brexit and cambridge analytica is... PRIVACY?

● Mar 02

[10:20] schestowitz-pi2 some computing freedom might "always" be possib

[10:20] schestowitz-pi2 but "powers that be" will keep it niche, with things like Chrome OS to neutralise

[10:20] schestowitz-pi2 it as means of compromise

[10:20] schestowitz-pi2 Windows is still bleeding (see TR post)

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[10:32] techrights[sec] Yes, Windows is declining, they're way below the point where they can

[10:32] techrights[sec] demand monopoly rents. Thus the overwhelming majority of their income

[10:32] techrights[sec] from Windows has vanished. Their only other traditional area of income

[10:32] techrights[sec] has been their monopoly rents from the productivity software via their

[10:32] techrights[sec] control of the ever-changing proprietary formats it spreads and exploits.

[10:32] techrights[sec] There have been a lot "bill sez" lately

[10:33] schestowitz-pi2 the corporate media is of course all over this

[10:33] schestowitz-pi2 reporting the "facts"

[10:33] schestowitz-pi2 or bagging money from "bill h. sez" and microSoft

[10:33] schestowitz-pi2 i hope more people nowadays know how to respond to the billness puff pieces

[10:33] schestowitz-pi2 even if almost no site allows comments anymore

[10:33] schestowitz-pi2 the criminal will be gone in a decade or two

[10:43] techrights[sec] Hopefully sooner

[10:52] schestowitz-pi2 With the Lord Mayor of Manchester https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/03/02/lord-mayor-of-manchester/

[10:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive With the Lord Mayor of Manchester

● Mar 02

[11:24] techrights[sec] checking

[11:24] techrights[sec] Good photos

[11:24] techrights[sec] Quite an honor that the lordmayor was there

[11:25] schestowitz-pi2 apparently it's quite the exception (they said)

[11:25] schestowitz-pi2 and they also did the group photo

[11:25] schestowitz-pi2 mike is rianne's referee

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[12:58] schestowitz-pi2 Sometimes it seems like Techdirt isn't just running Microsoft ads but it also habitually lobbying for GAFAM interests, including for Microsoft, while bagging "deregulation" Koch money https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/01/microsoft-inks-10-year-deal-to-bring-xbox-games-to-nintendo-consoles/

[12:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft Inks 10 Year Deal To Bring Xbox Games To Nintendo Consoles | Techdirt

● Mar 02

[13:02] techrights[sec] What happened? He used to be quite good on /tech/ matters?

[13:10] techrights[sec] However, I stopped reading the site ages ago as fewer and fewer of the articles

[13:10] techrights[sec] were either good or relevant, unlike when he started out.

[13:13] schestowitz-pi2 techdirt history

[13:13] schestowitz-pi2 90s: short pists by young man, some links to long articles outside

[13:13] schestowitz-pi2 *posts

[13:13] schestowitz-pi2 2000s: longer posts by one man, very high volume, focusing on copyrights

[13:14] schestowitz-pi2 2010: a team of people, many covering politics, don't always agree with them

[13:14] schestowitz-pi2 2015: bad words in headlines, koch money (shiva "help"), pushing to deregulate everything

[13:14] schestowitz-pi2 "leave FB alone"... leave tiktok alone... microsoft doing better now

[13:14] schestowitz-pi2 i am still in love with the old techdirt

[13:14] schestowitz-pi2 so it has ok karma, like sjvn had until ~3 years ago

[13:14] techrights[sec] I forgot about the Koch money :(

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 this is where T.D. and reason.com go off the rails

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 except. reason is worse

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 it attacks net neutrality and some decent politicians

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 esp. in the past 2 weeks

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 i stopped even staring at it

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 as it published some truly disgusting thing

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 so i feel more gulty linking to that domain

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 *thingsa

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 *things

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 (reason.com taks koch money, reasons means whatever kochs call "freedom"... libertarian think tanks)

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 Federalist Society.. same ones pushing for patent maximalists while at the same time shouting

[13:29] schestowitz-pi2 "DEF

● Mar 02

[14:16] schestowitz-pi2 i was just thinking

[14:16] schestowitz-pi2 (and hoping) that rather than or not only

[14:16] schestowitz-pi2 banningtiktokfor kids' use

[14:16] schestowitz-pi2 they will compel politicians to not use FB etc. for "privacy" reasons

[14:16] schestowitz-pi2 no high-profile people active in social control media

[14:16] schestowitz-pi2 can help wean billions off it

[14:22] techrights[sec] Weaning billions of it would be a good thing but as long as they are distracted

[14:22] techrights[sec] by the strawman of privacy they will not address the even more severe problem

[14:22] techrights[sec] of maniuplation and intentional damage to mental and physical health.

[14:23] schestowitz-pi2 it is currently about whose manipulation

[14:23] schestowitz-pi2 not the manipulation itself

[14:23] schestowitz-pi2 and certainly not a matter of public health

[14:23] schestowitz-pi2 like the "residue" or "side effects" of "info" ny algorithms

[14:23] schestowitz-pi2 misframed as "by peer"

[14:23] techrights[sec] Yes and it appears they'd really prefer to keep attention off the manipulation.

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 twitter timeline (not sure about other sucj sites)

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 1) people to follow, chronology and subs honours

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 nothing "injected" from outside who you follow, no "algo"

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 2)manipulationstarting

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 3) shadowbanning

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 there are many other aspects

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 it sort of peaked around 2015, i think

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 it manipulated less

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 after 2016 lots of mass culls

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 and optimising for "engagement"

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 ads

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 sort of like gulag youtube in more recent years

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 in 2010 i watched lots of youtube

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 it only presented to me new stuff from channels i had subscribed to

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 this limited "provocation" and time-wasting

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 youtube quality was also higher back then

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 now a lot of youtube is the "bitchute of tiktok"

[14:46] schestowitz-pi2 iow, people crapflooding youtube with useless crap they make for the "opium" platform

[14:47] techrights[sec] The biggest turning point against Twitter was the move to aglorithmic sorting

[14:47] techrights[sec] of messages away from chronological order.

● Mar 02

[15:09] schestowitz-pi2 (NEW): Meeting Manchester's Mayor Yesterday http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/02/Meeting_Manchester_s_Mayor_Yesterday.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/02/Meeting_Manchester_s_Mayor_Yesterday.gmi

[15:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Meeting Manchester's Mayor Yesterday

[15:27] schestowitz-pi2 ACLU: banning TikTok would violate the First Amendment https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/02/aclu-banning-tiktok-would-violate-the-first-amendment/

[15:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.jurist.org | ACLU: banning TikTok would 'violate the First Amendment' - JURIST - News

[15:36] schestowitz-pi2 Lithuania wont ban TikTok from official devices https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1925533/lithuania-won-t-ban-tiktok-from-official-devices

[15:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.lrt.lt | Lithuania wont ban TikTok from official devices - LRT

[15:36] techrights[sec] Someone has infiltrated the ACLU and inverted them?

[15:36] techrights[sec] They're taking the opposite stance, one against the public health of the nation.

[15:36] techrights[sec] s/the/an/

[15:36] techrights[sec] s/an/a/

[15:39] schestowitz-pi2 we're at the cusp of debate consensus being soldified

[15:39] schestowitz-pi2 and i think it already gravitates towards

[15:39] schestowitz-pi2 tiktok=militarised=ban it

[15:39] schestowitz-pi2 and any other claim would seem insane

[15:39] schestowitz-pi2 this is where they rebrand, lobby, and buy "happy stories"

[15:39] schestowitz-pi2 critical time

[15:40] techrights[sec] Yes, there is currently a flood of "happy" stories about social control media

[15:40] techrights[sec] going on. It'd say, without much evidence, that it sure seems related to the

[15:40] techrights[sec] ongoing debate about ByteDance

[15:43] schestowitz-pi2 i saw the link above hours before you had sent it

[15:43] schestowitz-pi2 seeing it now again as I am catching up

[15:43] schestowitz-pi2 the weekend is, near so i can complete the catchup

[15:43] schestowitz-pi2 we're going to the library soon

[15:43] schestowitz-pi2 12 min walk

[15:43] schestowitz-pi2 rianne drops off her resume there

[15:43] schestowitz-pi2 then I check the tesco 200m from there

[15:43] schestowitz-pi2 they are showing her around

[15:44] schestowitz-pi2 we're trying to establish a plan to 67

[15:44] schestowitz-pi2 wherein we are mostly free and happy

[15:44] schestowitz-pi2 no more 24/7 shifts

[15:44] schestowitz-pi2 they are building a massive arena across the road from here, next to the stadium

[15:44] schestowitz-pi2 that too can open up some "walking distance" opportunities

[15:44] schestowitz-pi2 like a few hours a night

[15:44] schestowitz-pi2 my sleep, diet, family life improve, aside from online activities

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 next to rianne sat a young gentleman from HK, tall and maybe 25 years old

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 i think they managed to "suck" some talent out of PRC

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 after that in the restaurant chinese... btw...

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 a friend noted that had hire some guy form HK

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 who said that over there they worked 8am till 8pm

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 at the office

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 some stayed in the office till 11pm

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 6 times a week

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 sounds no better than japan and s korea

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 now he can work from home 4 hours a day and is very pleased

[15:47] schestowitz-pi2 they do highway engineering and such

[15:48] techrights[sec] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system

[15:48] techrights[sec] aka modern slavery

[15:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | 996 working hour system - Wikipedia

[15:50] techrights[sec] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-23/tang-ping-lying-flat-generation-rejecting-chinas-work-culture/100477716

[15:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.abc.net.au | 'Lying flat': The millennials quitting China's '996' work culture to live 'free of anxiety' - ABC News

[15:52] schestowitz-pi2 for full time work i am "done"

[15:52] schestowitz-pi2 casual? ok

[15:52] schestowitz-pi2 things will come by, over time, but i don't need to hoard

[15:52] schestowitz-pi2 living large => slavery

[15:52] schestowitz-pi2 opposite => more personal freedom

[15:52] schestowitz-pi2 we still have (some level of) national insurance to "fall back" on

[15:52] schestowitz-pi2 no eye-watering hospital bills

[15:52] techrights[sec] Exactly

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 btw, look up microsoft github 996

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 and "censorship"

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 many people forgot about this

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 also "gvreat cannon of china" (ddos, iirc via brwoser extensions)

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 in china, gulag search is small

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 and bing is not small

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 because his billness made a pact with .... his kind of people

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 from what i recall, when not cheating on his wife with lolita express

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 he may have gone with some adults of chinese lineage

[15:55] techrights[sec] Yes, a distraction;

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 but I am not sure

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 the latter is mostly used as a distraction from his complicity in outright

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 crimes

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 and maxwell is back in the news again, pleading her innocent while india media

[15:55] schestowitz-pi2 is in "spread buttcheeks, publish bill sez"

[15:58] techrights[sec] "bill sez" puff pieces do double service: they distract and they launder

[15:59] schestowitz-pi2 they're done for a fee

[15:59] schestowitz-pi2 i think more people now resist this BS

● Mar 02

[16:02] schestowitz-pi2 Young Chinese feeling 'political depression' amid hopelessness about future https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/political-depression-02282023090024.html

[16:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.rfa.org | Young Chinese feeling 'political depression' amid hopelessness about future Radio Free Asia

[16:06] techrights[sec] nder

[16:06] techrights[sec] One can hope, but there was a time 20 - 25 years ago when /everyone/ knew

[16:06] techrights[sec] what Bill was about.

[16:06] techrights[sec] https://youtu.be/H27rfr59RiE

[16:06] techrights[sec] All the tech magazines and any newspaper which even had a tech column knew

[16:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=H27rfr59RiE

[16:06] techrights[sec] about him.

[16:06] techrights[sec] If the same situation were today, he'd be described "as a meme"

[16:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> y.com.sb | Homer Simpson and Bill Gates buy out - Invidious

● Mar 02

[17:00] schestowitz-pi2 the library is nice, connected to a school

[17:00] schestowitz-pi2 lots of PCs there

[17:00] schestowitz-pi2 so i assume a lot of activity is people "online"

[17:00] schestowitz-pi2 the books are "modern" or contemporary ventilation OK

[17:00] schestowitz-pi2 sanitary

[17:00] schestowitz-pi2 back to the news now...

[17:01] techrights[sec] https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20221016-let-it-rot-once-flourishing-middle-class-faces-end-of-chinese-dream

[17:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.france24.com | Let it rot: Once-flourishing middle class faces end of Chinese Dream

[17:03] schestowitz-pi2 Many in Hong Kong continue to wear masks despite end of mandate https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/many-in-hong-kong-keep-wearing-masks-despite-end-of-945-day-long-mandate

[17:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.straitstimes.com | Many in Hong Kong continue to wear masks despite end of mandate | The Straits Times

[17:03] schestowitz-pi2 we were the only ones in the library wearing masks

[17:07] schestowitz-pi2 That seems like a smart move from Japan. Why the negative tone? Because this paper is owned and controlled by PAP and its ilk? https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/japan-s-birth-rate-plunges-to-a-record-low-in-7th-year-of-decline

[17:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.straitstimes.com | Japans birth rate plunges to a record low in 7th year of decline | The Straits Times

[17:10] schestowitz-pi2 cphpost publishing spam, as do some other sites, might need to add a filter for these to my scripts as even just scrolling past them is unnecessary distraction (notice URL): https://cphpost.dk/2023-03-02/sponsored/a-new-fitness-supplement-sarms/

[17:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cphpost.dk | A New Fitness Supplement: SARMs - The Post The Post

[17:21] techrights[sec] checking

[17:21] techrights[sec] It'd be hard to filter from the feed itself though there is /sponsor/ in the

[17:21] techrights[sec] URL path

[17:23] schestowitz-pi2 it's the first time i see them do this

[17:23] schestowitz-pi2 techdirt has that, the-scientist has loads of these

[17:23] schestowitz-pi2 aap in michaelwest is not a solved issue

[17:23] schestowitz-pi2 algorithmically, not with the gui in quiterss ("filter")

[17:23] schestowitz-pi2 but i still have an abundance of "signal"

[17:23] schestowitz-pi2 with 1000+ feeds and two ways to see them

[17:24] techrights[sec] Let me check on the Michael West links...

[17:26] schestowitz-pi2 you've fixed it already, i follow that via "merged"

[17:26] schestowitz-pi2 today i did lots of catching up with stories

[17:26] schestowitz-pi2 phipps just covered FRAND/SEP in OSI's site

[17:26] schestowitz-pi2 rianne added this despite it being OSI

[17:26] schestowitz-pi2 he's still the least sinister person in OSI

[17:26] techrights[sec] I thought the automated script now skips the AAP posts there

[17:26] techrights[sec] FRAND is pure toxic waste

[17:27] schestowitz-pi2 yes, it is fixed there

[17:27] schestowitz-pi2 but i use two modes, even three

[17:28] schestowitz-pi2 the falkon stuff is best for "sweeping"

[17:28] schestowitz-pi2 it shows only headlines and is concise

[17:28] techrights[sec] and amounts to shilling for software patents

[17:28] techrights[sec] In -merged AAP posts are culled from Michael West's feed.

[17:36] schestowitz-pi2 The title here is misinformation which serves Microsoft https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/pop-os-new-text-editor/

[17:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxtoday.com | Pop!_OS Is Working on a New Text Editor Based on Vim, VS Code

[17:37] schestowitz-pi2 "Based on Vim, VS Code"

[17:38] techrights[sec] The python script cannot process content. That'd be a waste of time and

[17:38] techrights[sec] effort each time it was run unless there was some major change to the work

[17:38] techrights[sec] flow such that it would make sense.

[17:38] techrights[sec] It's slow as it is and making a full HTTP request for each item in the feed

[17:38] techrights[sec] would take tens of minutes to complete each time. That's just fetching.

[17:38] techrights[sec] Then parsing the HTML would slow that down further.

[17:38] techrights[sec] A more serious problem is that there were 202 links in the latest post

[17:38] techrights[sec] containing links. Regardless of what's in them, that's way too many for

[17:38] techrights[sec] a single post.

[17:39] schestowitz-pi2 what's a good number or "sweet spot"?

[17:39] schestowitz-pi2 100?

[17:39] schestowitz-pi2 i try to focus on technical things and judge by importance, i.e. no sport, gossip...

[17:57] techrights[sec] I'm not sure. Maybe 100 or less for now.

[17:57] techrights[sec] The thing is that there are quotes included along with the titles so

[17:57] techrights[sec] even 100 is a lot to wade through. Quality is better than quantity.

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 ok, i will finalise my current batch

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 it's mostly gnu/linux

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 if we have MOAR of those links, the better

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 as they're not so easy to find anymore

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 and you can see sites like linuxtoday slowing down to like 4 posts per day, half of which howtos

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 and missing some very important news of the day

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 the quality, i think, is in the topology and clustering

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 both in TM and TR

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 other sites lack the tools and workflow to organise them similarly

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 some tried and gave up

[17:59] schestowitz-pi2 and we have 3 people working on it, if not more if you count marius

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[18:00] schestowitz-pi2 so emergent news can come within <1 hour, almost real time

[18:00] schestowitz-pi2 even when we're outside the house

[18:00] schestowitz-pi2 the problem witn long Daily Links is,

[18:00] schestowitz-pi2 the entaiol a lag between breaking news and appearance in TR

[18:00] schestowitz-pi2 so breaking them down into smaller batches means latency is lower

[18:00] schestowitz-pi2 biab, finalising

[18:06] techrights[sec] ity.

[18:06] techrights[sec] Given the work flow as it is, there is not a way to shorten the cycle that I

[18:06] techrights[sec] can think of.

[18:08] schestowitz-pi2 with the new cms we can tailor-make and change workflowsf

[18:08] schestowitz-pi2 for irc, links, short posts, in-depth

[18:08] schestowitz-pi2 but the transition takes planning

[18:08] schestowitz-pi2 today rianne did a "blog" in TM

[18:08] techrights[sec] I think so.

[18:08] techrights[sec] Nice.

[18:09] schestowitz-pi2 eeting Manchester's Mayor Yesterday http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/02/Meeting_Manchester_s_Mayor_Yesterday.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/02/Meeting_Manchester_s_Mayor_Yesterday.gmi

[18:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Meeting Manchester's Mayor Yesterday

[18:09] schestowitz-pi2 you might also say she is gemlogging now

[18:10] techrights[sec] Which one? It is not distinguished by title.

[18:15] techrights[sec] Checking

[18:15] techrights[sec] Excellent!

[18:16] schestowitz-pi2 the important thing is that she's almost always happy

[18:16] schestowitz-pi2 it's all about perspective

[18:16] schestowitz-pi2 and it helps keep oneself focused, motivated

[18:16] schestowitz-pi2 no social control media

[18:16] schestowitz-pi2 not comparing to anyone

[18:17] techrights[sec] Great news.

[18:17] techrights[sec] Social control media is about dissatisfaction by exploiting negative emotions.

[18:17] techrights[sec] Happiness is inversely proportional to exposure to it.

[18:17] techrights[sec] there are other factors in happiness, of course, but exposure to social control

[18:17] techrights[sec] media is a guaranteed path to misery

[18:18] schestowitz-pi2 is it fair to say "happy" people buy less?

[18:18] schestowitz-pi2 or is another work more suitable here?

[18:18] schestowitz-pi2 *word

[18:20] techrights[sec] Probably

[18:20] techrights[sec] Fear and jealousy are usually the main emotions used to drive advertising and

[18:20] techrights[sec] thus sales.

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 social control media is for people who want to show, not do

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 esp. the facebook branch

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 i think tiktok rewards westerners for mischivious, unruly behaviour

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 sort of like youtube

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 had a chat about it with mike yesterday

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 people making a "scene", giving the cops extra job

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 just so that they can cause drama and make videos

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 provocation

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 re "fear and jealousy", they are connected in the sense that the latter is relatd to "social anxiety"

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 class consciousness

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 fear of losing connection due to perceived "poverty" ('failure')

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 but that's going into psychological philosophy

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 ryan has been clinically sad lately

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 he chats with me more privately sometimes

[18:22] schestowitz-pi2 same with trmanco

[18:32] techrights[sec] The "mischevious" aspect of tiktok is actually highly destructive to the

[18:32] techrights[sec] individual and society, on purpose. ByteDance is a propganda company, and

[18:32] techrights[sec] up front about that. The damage to the individual is both physical and to

[18:32] techrights[sec] the psyche. It's warfare. Psychological warfare but warfare nonetheless.

[18:32] techrights[sec] Worse, it is aimed at pre-teens

[18:32] techrights[sec] and thus the real damage escapes the attention of ignorant adults who dismiss

[18:32] techrights[sec] the attack as "just a phone" or "just playing on the phone"

[18:32] schestowitz-pi2 i did not watch the documentary, only read articlkes about it (at the time)

[18:32] schestowitz-pi2 if they actually do call it spinach and opium, then it sounds like they

[18:32] schestowitz-pi2 justify this by recalling the opium wars I and II by the british

[18:32] schestowitz-pi2 but that was so long ago

[18:33] techrights[sec] With enough exposure, they become culturally removed from the preceding

[18:33] techrights[sec] generations and no longer culturally part of the nation they reside in despite

[18:33] techrights[sec] speaking the local language(s).

[18:33] techrights[sec] A more recent article called it digital fentanyl, as a nod to both the harm

[18:33] techrights[sec] and to the origin. If ByteDance is digital fentanyl, then M$ is digital

[18:33] techrights[sec] krokodil. :(

[18:33] techrights[sec] People might make some money selling it, but anyone on the receiving end is

[18:33] techrights[sec] worse off and for businesses the injection will prove very harmful if not

[18:33] techrights[sec] outright fatal.

[18:35] schestowitz-pi2 at the library i spoke to one staffer, who was nice and helpful

[18:35] schestowitz-pi2 i checked their computer terminals but could not figure out the OS

[18:35] schestowitz-pi2 as there is just a login screen

[18:57] techrights[sec] Likely Vista10 there unless they are modern and use LTSP

[18:57] techrights[sec] the latter is increasingly rare though.

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