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● Jan 02

[04:11] schestowitz-TR tarring /var/www/tuxmachines

[04:11] schestowitz-TR doing a few more backups

[04:11] schestowitz-TR a month from now we should have faster connection at home

[04:11] schestowitz-TR that wouldhelp with offsite backups

[04:12] schestowitz-TR oh, I see this backup now includes your static gallery mirror

[04:28] techrightssec2 the gallery mirror should not be backed up yet, so that is an oversight

[04:28] techrightssec2 the methods for converting the gallery to a static site are still being hammered

[04:28] techrightssec2 out and will need more time. perhaps the simplest way is to delete that directory hierarchy for now?

[04:30] schestowitz-TR no need, it's OK

[04:30] schestowitz-TR the gz file for the htdoc is about 1.7gb

[04:30] schestowitz-TR instead of about 700mb

[04:30] schestowitz-TR not a huge deal

[04:30] schestowitz-TR I like to keep such dumps in case the db breaks itself or something

[04:30] schestowitz-TR lots of work going into that site

[04:30] schestowitz-TR i try to think ahead pessimistically for D-R purposes

[04:30] schestowitz-TR in fact, I need to back up my laptops again today, before news "picks up"

[04:31] techrightssec2 but the gallery is only partially there in that directory.

[04:31] schestowitz-TR the "master copy" is in old, or rather, in the db container (mariadb)

[04:33] techrightssec2 ack

[04:33] techrightssec2 \

[04:35] schestowitz-TR am downloading full file system backup of my personal site atm

[04:35] schestowitz-TR over 20 years of stuff

[04:35] schestowitz-TR I've just done a second pass through gemini due to new year's tasks

[04:35] schestowitz-TR and did in fact find an oversight

[04:35] schestowitz-TR there was a bulletin index page missing the link to the new year

[04:35] schestowitz-TR so I'm not satisfied all is covered

[04:35] schestowitz-TR and added that to my node for next year (jan 2024)

[04:35] schestowitz-TR i can finally say I caught up with ress feeds (jan 2nd)

[04:35] schestowitz-TR i paced it that way

[04:37] techrightssec2 ack

[04:38] schestowitz-TR due to economic woes LOTS of sites shut down, quietly

[04:38] schestowitz-TR this means lots of history is lost

[04:38] schestowitz-TR if you endure this, you might be the last one to cover topics x y and z

[04:38] schestowitz-TR that in itself has importanace

[04:38] techrightssec2 strangely short clips: >http://techrights.org/2023/01/01/richard-stallman-nit-calicut/

[04:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman Recently Went to India to Give Talks | Techrights

[04:43] schestowitz-TR those are the only ones that I could find

[04:43] schestowitz-TR and only today

[04:43] schestowitz-TR at least evidence he was hopping between unis there

[04:43] schestowitz-TR fsf did not even mention that

[04:43] techrightssec2 ok\

[04:43] schestowitz-TR as if they fear people who contact deans

[04:43] schestowitz-TR an org that hides its own father, news at 11

[04:43] schestowitz-TR fsf used to announce almost all his talks in advance

[04:43] schestowitz-TR using site calendars and rss

[04:43] schestowitz-TR the other people who arrange talks in this way (punblic speaking) are neonazis

[04:43] schestowitz-TR not just to avoid cancelation but also deportation

[04:43] schestowitz-TR maybe rms can be the new paul robeson

[04:43] schestowitz-TR the register trolled FS yesterday

[04:43] schestowitz-TR simon sharwood, mentioned in irc several times

[04:43] schestowitz-TR like FS is a weapon for "china" and "Russia"

[04:47] techrightssec2 The FSF doesn't even announce his talks after the fact nor do they provide

[04:47] techrightssec2 videos any more. Something has gone south at FSF, especially in light of

[04:47] techrightssec2 other recent announcements. Too bad.\

[04:48] schestowitz-TR there are new, creative tactitics against

[04:48] schestowitz-TR fsf and gnu

[04:48] schestowitz-TR plagiarism as a service (copilot)

[04:48] schestowitz-TR canceling

[04:48] schestowitz-TR all this "ethical" BS

[04:48] schestowitz-TR where they say, block china or else!

[04:48] schestowitz-TR we'll see more of that

[04:48] schestowitz-TR the only way for "Linux" to be accepted into the mainstream if for LF (i.e. pantagon) to control

[04:48] schestowitz-TR it first, with drm and valve and...

[04:48] schestowitz-TR and we need to reject that

[04:49] techrightssec2 Apropos China, the whine in congress against ByteDance has been about

[04:49] techrightssec2 surveillance only not manipulation or, worse, health damage.

[04:49] techrightssec2 s/health/physical and mental health/

[04:51] schestowitz-TR the media did fill the gap a bit

[04:51] schestowitz-TR by covering all aspects

[04:51] schestowitz-TR (what's left of the media... not much)

[04:51] schestowitz-TR I've spoken about some of these issues for more than 5 years

[04:51] schestowitz-TR esp. what a storm that causes in the brain

[04:51] schestowitz-TR cannot concentrate

[04:51] schestowitz-TR I was using twitter a lot in the golden days of wikileaks

[04:53] techrightssec2 Some of the politicians seem to be somewhat open about the desire to enable

[04:53] techrightssec2 surveillance for their interests while blocking surveillance from competing

[04:53] techrightssec2 interests. However, they do that by ignoring the intentional damage that

[04:53] techrightssec2 ByteDance and, to a certain extent, Meta do to physical and mental health of

[04:53] techrightssec2 their victims^wsubscribers

● Jan 02

[05:19] schestowitz-TR i have a lot of thoughts on that, but further thinking and input from articles (imc. Daily Links)

[05:19] schestowitz-TR will make our arguments more convincing

[05:19] schestowitz-TR the goal is to get people to frame and to explain the problems correctly

[05:19] schestowitz-TR as with... war on cash... "self-checkout" etc.

[05:19] schestowitz-TR to the point where more people quit using skinnerboxes and "social" "media"

[05:19] schestowitz-TR one nice thing would be, more people on gemini/rss/irc

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[05:29] schestowitz-TR not sure if bug or not

[05:29] schestowitz-TR somehow arindam posted a story with a title blank

[05:29] schestowitz-TR that caused some consistency issues in the site

[05:29] schestowitz-TR I got the url from gemini side

[05:29] schestowitz-TR and updated

[05:29] schestowitz-TR added title

[05:30] schestowitz-TR this mostly resolved things, but maybe not fully

[05:30] schestowitz-TR the navigation arrows link to it, but not the index below

[05:30] schestowitz-TR it is still there in the rss feed. i am strating to suspect he entered invalid title,, e.g. a url

[05:30] schestowitz-TR ah, ok, it is there in updated at the top, so it's gone from nowhere

[05:30] schestowitz-TR long story short, a story with void title got added somehow, but changing it to have one seems to have

[05:30] schestowitz-TR solved everything, no db consistency issues afaictr

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● Jan 02

[08:34] techrightssec2 """

[08:34] techrightssec2 ...Gasse recanted, saying, "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I

[08:34] techrightssec2 deserve it." \

[08:34] techrightssec2 """

[08:34] techrightssec2 https://birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/

[08:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-birdhouse.org | He Who Controls the Bootloader

[08:34] techrightssec2 https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/21/canonical-now-hopes-to-ipo-in-2023/

[08:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techcrunch.com | Ubuntu-maker Canonical now plans to IPO in 2023

[08:34] techrightssec2 exit plan\

[08:34] techrightssec2 https://linuxiac.com/canonical-considering-ipo-in-2023-what-it-means-for-ubuntu-users/

[08:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxiac.com | Canonical Considering IPO in 2023: What It Means for Ubuntu Users

[08:34] schestowitz-TR yes, no users, lower value

[08:34] schestowitz-TR they don't make anything truly essential anyway

[08:34] schestowitz-TR red hat does a lot of gnome

[08:35] techrightssec2 No uses anymore thanks to Mark and co selling out to m$, a company which wants

[08:35] techrightssec2 Canonical and its flagship product, Ubuntu, quite dead after a bit of public

[08:35] techrightssec2 humiliation

● Jan 02

[09:46] schestowitz-TR apropos destroing canonical in this way, see my latest post

[09:46] schestowitz-TR going to work out now

[09:46] schestowitz-TR lots of material to come this year, it ain't pretty

[09:47] techrightssec2 Checking

[09:47] techrightssec2 About the shell company?

[09:48] schestowitz-TR yes

[09:48] schestowitz-TR compulsory signing of new contract

[09:48] schestowitz-TR not sure about uk law, but I'm quite sure employers cannot do that

[09:48] schestowitz-TR and breaches some protocols

[09:48] schestowitz-TR like giving me time to check with lawyer

[09:48] schestowitz-TR maybe i can consult a lawyer now to see if what they did was even legal

[09:48] schestowitz-TR we've not reached that part yet, it'll take weeks

● Jan 02

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● Jan 02

[11:03] schestowitz-TR Controversy of init and systemd in Linux https://linuxtldr.com/init-vs-systemd/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxtldr.com/init-vs-systemd/

[11:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxtldr.com | Controversy of 'init' and 'systemd' in Linux

[11:03] schestowitz-TR the author wanted to post in Techrights too

[11:03] schestowitz-TR thoughts?

[11:22] techrightssec2 checking

[11:22] techrightssec2 Waffle is not Gemini :(

[11:22] techrightssec2 The linked HTTPS article has rather lame content in that it does not delve

[11:22] techrightssec2 into the issues like is needed. Some points have been missed, for example\

[11:22] techrightssec2 systemd is /not/ an init system even if it might contain one.

[11:22] techrightssec2 Another SystemD article there omits any hint of the politics that forced

[11:22] techrightssec2 SystemD into Debian via the TC and thus into 100s of derivatives.

[11:22] techrightssec2 Popular != Common

[11:22] techrightssec2 I dunno the articles spot checked are not up to the 9to5 Linux level or OMG Ubuntu level

[11:22] techrightssec2 By the way, I am wondering if the scaping method is an appropriate direction at

[11:23] techrightssec2 all because it's starting to look like the same images get downloaded multiple

[11:23] techrightssec2 times. I suppose it would be possilbe to find duplicates and replace them with\hard links instead though. Thoug

[11:23] techrightssec2 hts?

[11:23] schestowitz-TR dupe detection does work

[11:23] schestowitz-TR but not perfect

[11:23] schestowitz-TR I'd leave TM as it is

[11:32] techrightssec2 Leaving the legacy site as it is creates a liability of unmaintained software

[11:32] techrightssec2 neede for content which seems to be archivable as a static site.

[11:32] techrightssec2 If it can be upgraded to static content the CMS can be decommissioned and an

[11:32] techrightssec2 expensive, large VM removed.

[11:32] schestowitz-TR i was referring to the static part

[11:32] schestowitz-TR assuming you meant the uploader

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[11:39] techrightssec2 Oh. I am referring to the gallery and other components still on tm-old

[11:50] schestowitz-TR makes sense

[11:50] schestowitz-TR I think I gradually become as productive as I was in 2009

[11:50] schestowitz-TR when I had more spare time

[11:50] schestowitz-TR we can pick up speed asI re-adjust back to normal sleeping hours

[11:55] techrightssec2 ack

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● Jan 02

[12:11] schestowitz-TR No, EFF hardly did anything about software patents or "Patent Trolls" last year https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/12/seeing-patent-trolls-clearly-2022-review | Source: EFF

[12:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Seeing Patent Trolls Clearly: 2022 in Review | Electronic Frontier Foundation

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[12:56] schestowitz-TR i did a 44-min video to demonstrate how little eff was doing to combat not just EPO

[12:56] schestowitz-TR but also anyting patent-related

[12:58] schestowitz-TR See the "Note"; seems like a Microsoft propaganda site and Microsoft is, in fact, a media partner https://analyticsindiamag.com/toxic-linux-community-acting-as-the-perfect-repellent-for-new-users/

[12:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-analyticsindiamag.com | 'Toxic' Linux Community Acting As the Perfect Repellent for New Users

[12:59] schestowitz-TR maybe he got some email about GNU and decided to add horns and scorn to tux

● Jan 02

[13:04] psydruid this looks like a write-up by someone from Microsoft the comical media company

[13:04] techrightssec2 The graphics is secondary to the multiple lies propagated in that link.

[13:04] schestowitz-TR reddit, byfieldism.. I'd say bin the site

[13:04] schestowitz-TR I've seen enough

[13:04] schestowitz-TR seen his history, not just the site's

[13:05] schestowitz-TR I used to skip that site

[13:05] schestowitz-TR as it was full of Microsoft lies

[13:05] schestowitz-TR now we know Microsoft is also paying them

[13:05] schestowitz-TR worth doing a video about?

[13:05] schestowitz-TR or waste of time/publicity for them?

[13:06] psydruid Windows does NOT just work

[13:06] psydruid macOS does NOT just work

[13:07] psydruid yes, I would do a video about them

[13:07] psydruid they're from India, the rest of the world doesn't care that much

[13:07] psydruid but Microsoft knows it can exceed certain limits there

[13:08] psydruid more than it would in western media

[13:08] psydruid and they know the next billions of potential users are in Asia and Africa

[13:09] psydruid so it's a serious matter of life and death for Microsoft

[13:09] schestowitz-TR psydruid: this is one of two articles of his

[13:09] schestowitz-TR both anti-Linux

[13:09] schestowitz-TR in two days

[13:09] psydruid Analytics India Mag should think twice about sending this kind if message into the world and should be punished for it now

[13:09] schestowitz-TR you can see the other one in his history

[13:09] schestowitz-TR Analytics India Mag takes Microsoft money

[13:10] schestowitz-TR they even admit this

[13:10] schestowitz-TR "brand" partner

[13:10] psydruid yes, a lot is at stake at thus crossroads

[13:10] schestowitz-TR so you see how much Microsoft loves Linux

[13:10] psydruid punish them for it now

[13:10] psydruid so they learn a lesson very quickly

[13:10] schestowitz-TR ok, hang on

[13:10] schestowitz-TR but

[13:10] schestowitz-TR no links

[13:10] schestowitz-TR just screenshots

[13:10] schestowitz-TR hang on

[13:11] psydruid I see a lot of those Indian so-called FOSS sites sell out

[13:11] psydruid that will be fine

[13:14] techrightssec2

[13:14] techrightssec2 Well, the "toxic" part is not Linux but systemd

[13:14] techrightssec2 Yes, it is a matter of life and death for m$ there in India. While India

[13:14] techrightssec2 has most of the worst engineers and programmers it also has some of the very

[13:14] techrightssec2 best too, and the nation could rather easily reach a tipping point towards

[13:14] techrightssec2 software freedom if m$ and its minions cannot maintain tight control over

[13:14] techrightssec2 the print media.

[13:14] psydruid I worked at a data integration company

[13:14] psydruid I never touched Windows or Microsoft tools

[13:15] psydruid missions critical infrastructure doesn't use Microsoft

[13:15] psydruid mission-critical*

[13:22] schestowitz-TR i want to ask quickly

[13:22] schestowitz-TR the thing tou said about ibm and microsoft as brand partners

[13:22] schestowitz-TR is that the animated stuff, like carousel?

[13:22] schestowitz-TR i am taking screenshot

[13:22] schestowitz-TR is there another place?

[13:26] schestowitz-TR crude draft, not even previewed yet

[13:26] techrightssec2 ?

[13:26] techrightssec2 contexrt?

[13:29] techrightssec2 https://analyticsindiamag.com/about/

[13:29] techrightssec2 scroll down to "Brands We Partner With"

[13:29] techrightssec2 Anything positive they wrote must have been either a fluke or merely baiting

[13:29] techrightssec2 the hook

[13:29] techrightssec2 "I use 'Linux' at home but ..." type of stuffd

[13:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-analyticsindiamag.com | About Analytics India Magazine

[13:29] schestowitz-TR is the draft ok?

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[13:40] techrightssec2 checking

[13:40] techrightssec2 some links to counter points would help, such as showing desktop market

[13:40] techrightssec2 \share with and without android, showing supercomputer marketshare ;) and

[13:40] techrightssec2 so on. There were also some usability studies around showing that GNU/Linux

[13:40] techrightssec2 has been much easier to use on the desktop than M$ for decades now.

[13:40] techrightssec2 The canard brought up there is installation but 1) installation is eaiser on

[13:40] techrightssec2 GNU/Linux anyway, but 2) installation is irrelevant because people buy with

[13:40] techrightssec2 a system pre-installed, see the birdhouse link about the idea that the OEMs

[13:40] techrightssec2 have no technical barrier to having the hardware come pre-loaded with a choice

[13:40] techrightssec2 of several systems and that the purchaser chooses upon first boot.

[13:41] schestowitz-TR I think I'll use these notes and chain that into a video next time I record (tomorrow morning, we

[13:41] schestowitz-TR cover some ISO crap)

[13:41] techrightssec2 ok but no direct quoting of the above please

[13:41] schestowitz-TR ok, sure

[13:41] schestowitz-TR just notes for the mind

[13:44] schestowitz-TR i suspect he'll carry on, so having a page or two to link two for rebuttal can help

[13:44] schestowitz-TR like we did icbm before it started viciously attacking the community as "sexist" and "racist"

[13:47] psydruid my mom hasn't used Windows in 6 years since a ransomware attack took out Windows 7

[13:48] schestowitz-TR maybe we need to watch AIM just to monitor for further hatchet jobs

[13:48] psydruid of course all the real data was on a separate drive inaccessible to Windows

[13:48] schestowitz-TR not sure

[13:48] psydruid but she'll never use that malware again

[13:49] psydruid my uncle likewise hasn't used Windows in years

[13:49] psydruid these are normal people, who aren't tech-savvy

[13:49] schestowitz-TR About AIM, I told you months ago they were Microsofters

[13:49] schestowitz-TR it might be worth still watching them

[13:49] schestowitz-TR and putting in other_links

[13:49] schestowitz-TR to see if they keep at it

[13:49] psydruid my cousin told me to erase Windows 10 from his laptop

[13:49] schestowitz-TR and respond

[13:52] schestowitz-TR cool:)

[13:56] techrightssec2 ack

● Jan 02

[14:00] psydruid reading the Serif forum thread about GNU/Linux support it has become clear to me that entire fields are on GNU/Linux now with just a few applications not being ported over probably due to underhanded tactics and secret agreements with Microsoft and Apple

[14:01] psydruid GNU/Linux adoption is artificially limited at this point

[14:08] techrightssec2 They're M$ "partners" so they will only be able to parrot m$ talking points.

[14:08] techrightssec2 Though that is annoying it does show what m$ is paying fools to spew to the

[14:08] techrightssec2 public these days.

[14:24] psydruid there are more closed source products that work on all 3

[14:24] schestowitz-TR yeah

[14:25] psydruid https://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/

[14:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.qoppa.com | PDF Studio - PDF Editor Software for Mac, Windows and Linux

[14:25] psydruid https://www.bricsys.com/nl-nl

[14:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Bricsys | 2D & 3D CAD Software

[14:26] psydruid http://www.viva.us/en/products/desktop-publishing/vivadesigner-desktop-version

[14:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.viva.us | VivaDesigner (Desktop)

[14:26] techrightssec2 The R-Project is probably one example of a field which is artificially being

[14:26] techrightssec2 hobbled to keep any Windoze around

[14:27] psydruid markets are changing, so we can expect more M$ and Apple FUD in the near future

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● Jan 02

[15:01] schestowitz-TR yes, Apple too

[15:01] schestowitz-TR but Apple tends to proxy a bit via cultists

[15:01] schestowitz-TR not just MVPs and such

[15:56] techrightssec2 m$ recent aggression might be due to both a bad financial situation combined

[15:56] techrightssec2 with growing political awareness of the importance of ending m$ deployments

[15:56] techrightssec2 in production (and development) environments.

[15:57] techrightssec2

[15:57] techrightssec2 CNet and others are pushing spam but it is the nature of the spam which is

[15:57] techrightssec2 telling. By selling "lifetime" subscriptions, m$ is making a grab for the data\and hoping that people will fall

[15:57] techrightssec2 for the sunk cost fallacy some more.

● Jan 02

[16:15] psydruid in India GNU/Linux is the main competitor to M$, not Apple

[16:15] psydruid so that probably explains why they think they have to be aggressive now

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