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00:00 starstreak; activelow detected ^^
00:05 TR News; More vacuous and hypocritical privacy posing from Mozilla https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/08/24/its-time-to-pass-u-s-federal-privacy-legislation/
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00:05 TR Bot; It's Time to Pass U.S. Federal Privacy Legislation - Open Policy & Advocacy
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00:06 schestowitz[TR]; activeLone
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00:09 TR News; (UPDATED): $29 Inovato Quadra Arm mini PC runs Armbian on Allwinner H6 processor (UPDATEDx2) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/_29_Inovato_Quadra_Arm_mini_PC_runs_Armbian_on_Allwinner_H6_pro.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/_29_Inovato_Quadra_Arm_mini_PC_runs_Armbian_on_Allwinner_H6_pro.gmi
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00:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines $29 Inovato Quadra Arm mini PC runs Armbian on Allwinner H6 processor (UPDATEDx2)
00:10 TR News; Classic Macintosh gets a massive ePaper display | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/24/classic-macintosh-gets-a-massive-epaper-display/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/24/classic-macintosh-gets-a-massive-epaper-display/
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00:10 TR Bot; Classic Macintosh gets a massive ePaper display | Arduino Blog
00:11 loner; "$29 Inovato Quadra Arm mini PC runs Armbian on Allwinner H6 processor" ... and?
00:12 loner; there's no freedom of choice with such either
00:12 DaemonFC; "WebKit as a project will need to reassess certain software development practices that may have facilitated the abuse of these vulnerabilities. The practice of committing security fixes to open source long in advance of corresponding Safari releases may need to be reconsidered."
00:12 starstreak; linux is also a hell of a lot faster than windows
00:12 DaemonFC; Apple has never pushed security fixes to their users very fast.
00:12 loner; ^ it isn't
00:13 starstreak; XD
00:13 DaemonFC; WebkitGTK doesn't suffer from this as much.
00:13 DaemonFC; If there's a security patch, it goes in the monthly WebkitGTK security rollup.
00:13 starstreak; it is on my system
00:13 DaemonFC; Sometimes Apple doesn't even ship the patch for 6-8 months and that gives nation states like China plenty of time to attack Safari users.
00:14 starstreak; linux has a way better scheduler so apps actually use all my threads
00:14 DaemonFC; Which means that Apple's Webkit-only rule makes their security mess every other browser's problem too on the iPhone.
00:14 starstreak; windows is properietary too
00:14 TR News; "PureOS on the Librem 5 USA has a long list of default capabilities and a longer list of applications that are available to install and an even longer list of applications that are coming." https://puri.sm/posts/pureos-on-the-librem-5-usa-summer-2022-snapshot/
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00:14 TR Bot; PureOS on the Librem 5 USA Summer 2022 Snapshot Purism
00:14 MinceR; expecting security on an iGrenade is Doing It Wrong
00:14 DaemonFC; Apple should be bumping Webkit for security problems every month or so like GNOME does.
00:15 starstreak; i would trust a pinephone over android
00:15 starstreak; pinephone > ios > android
00:15 loner; at least, with w3m/lynx/links some real alternative remained... however which libc could be digested without vendor-specific anti-competitive ASM?
00:15 DaemonFC; I can use Privacy Browser on Android.
00:16 DaemonFC; It disables JavaShit by default. Which of course breaks AMP because this "open source" framework makes everyone first call out to a JavaShit file that's nearly 100 KB and hosted only by GULAG.
00:16 DaemonFC; mjg59_ probably thinks this is fine too.
00:17 loner; problem isn't "free software" follows "innovative" trends, problem is any real alternative is locked out, by anti-competitive practices
00:17 DaemonFC; Even if you could locally host all of your own resources, AMP is terrible.
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00:17 loner; and, GNU/FSF etc. do follow the anti-competitive practices
00:17 DaemonFC; Normal Web pages at least work somewhat without JavaShit. All you get with AMP is a blank page.
00:18 loner; just recently, the last remaining news site, www.dw.com, "improved" their web site: "need JavaShit" now...
00:18 TR News; (NEW): Everything You Need to Know About Linux Mint https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Everything_You_Need_to_Know_About_Linux_Mint.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Everything_You_Need_to_Know_About_Linux_Mint.gmi
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00:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Everything You Need to Know About Linux Mint"
00:18 techuser; normal? AMP may become new normal!
00:18 TR News; (UPDATED): Kdenlive 22.08 released (UPDATEDx3) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.gmi
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00:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08 released (UPDATEDx3)
00:18 DaemonFC; Every year, the list of reasons to load Brendan Eich into a SpaceX capsule as the dummy payload grows longer.
00:19 TR News; "So you build a GitLab project, you created a pipeline and then a scheduler to run every week your pipeline. And then you realize that you are polluting the internet with deprecated (garbage) things, at some point you have a debug option on, bla bla bla etc etc. It is time to clean up your mess!" https://balaskas.gr/blog/2022/08/24/remove-previous-gitlab-pipelines-from-a-project/
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00:19 TR Bot; - Remove Previous GitLab Pipelines from a project Evaggelos Balaskas - System Engineer
00:20 TR News; (NEW): Kate - New Features - August 2022 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kate_New_Features_August_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kate_New_Features_August_2022.gmi
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00:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kate - New Features - August 2022
00:20 DaemonFC; There's a continuation of some of Netscape's Web server programs.
00:20 MinceR; i'm not quite sure how this DT_HASH issue is an ABI issue, honestly
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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00:20 DaemonFC; Red Hat got ahold of them and kept developing them, and now IBM owns it.
00:20 MinceR; i thought random applications didn't need to read any of this, as it was the dynamic linker's job?
00:20 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you used to link a lot to AMP pages
00:20 DaemonFC; I didn't really stop to consider what it was.
00:20 schestowitz[TR]; 'pages'
00:21 DaemonFC; That's how they get you.
00:21 DaemonFC; That and their GULAG Now app prefers AMP and won't show you normal pages.
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; The Register adopted it
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; I wonder if all those URLs you gave here still work at all
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; or fail gracefully, for now..
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; Gulagf didn't have enough with its browser monopolies
00:22 DaemonFC; Now I have the AMP redirect extension in my browser.
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; it also wanted to serve you all the pages from its OWN servers
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; next it will compltely block people from entering techrights
00:22 loner; situation is, i would be willing too, to drop all multimedia capabilities (which i still got with gcc47 c-only toolchain)
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; saying techrights is not in the CA cartel
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; hence, "dangerous"
00:23 loner; however, with the libc and ASM issue, even this wouldn' suffice, to retain some minimal *nix development box
00:23 DaemonFC; I don't know that I'll ever get a cat again.
00:23 DaemonFC; I'll obviously keep my two that I have now but it really makes things difficult.
00:24 loner; and that's why i am asking, how would i pose a threat to the business prospects of any of the "made in usa" "free software" corporates?
00:24 DaemonFC; Moving, paying vet bills, extra deposits, landlords going "I don't know. The list of things I don't like is getting long.".
00:24 DaemonFC; Saying goodbye someday breaks your heart.
00:24 loner; what's the real incentive of Pentagon, to lock out any alternative with their anti-competitive shitware?
00:24 loner; i haven't got a libc anymore.
00:25 DaemonFC; Some people have a lot of money and can't move past their last cat or dog, so they pay for some unethical cloning job.
00:25 DaemonFC; Then $12,000 later when a lot of failed clones died horribly, they get their cat.
00:25 DaemonFC; And it doesn't remember them, of course, and doesn't act like the cat it was cloned from.
00:26 DaemonFC; My Bobcat is a sweet little kitty, but learning that everything has to end is one of the horrible parts of life.
00:27 DaemonFC; I think one of the reasons that people today are so mentally fucked is because instead of dealing with trauma, they've regressed, mentally, into childhood.
00:27 DaemonFC; Where they felt safe, and comfortable.
00:28 DaemonFC; Life isn't safe. In fact, it does terrible things to you every year, maybe even every day, and more is coming.
00:28 DaemonFC; So people have picked crazy things to bicker about, like gender pronouns.
00:28 DaemonFC; It's a weird hill to die on. Insisting that refusal to say they/them is a big deal in the scheme of things.
00:29 MinceR; regressed -- or never progressed out of
00:29 DaemonFC; Yeah.
00:29 starstreak; https://external-preview.redd.it/M0KR8QVJSZAhW-6meBIKkNQruCX7S0CDp3PdK2FtaSc.jpg?auto=webp&s=dd13913521dbf296746dbd1006730763512e41bc
00:29 TR News; (NEW): [compiz] Compiz 0.9.14.2 released https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/_compiz_Compiz_0_9_14_2_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/_compiz_Compiz_0_9_14_2_released.gmi
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00:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines [compiz] Compiz 0.9.14.2 released
00:29 DaemonFC; People who physically age, maybe accumulate knowledge, and manage to go to work and pay their taxes.
00:30 DaemonFC; But they have the mind of a child.
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; they still buy toys
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; but the more expensive types
00:30 DaemonFC; Yeah, MARISOL.
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; ones that might be metal and plastic
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; not just plastic
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; payd for by plastic
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; (card)
00:31 DaemonFC; And then their employer cuts their earnings potential with no warning, but all of these bills are not able to be renegotiated.
00:31 DaemonFC; So they're stuck dealing with that for years, and if they're smart they won't build the pile any higher.
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; the best thing, I found, was learning to live with less
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; smaller budget, fewer things to maintain
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; then you stop worrying
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; you can also save a bit
00:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Yes, MARISOL has loaded them up with debt that can't be negotiated anymore.
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; save actual currency
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; not earpods
00:32 techuser; idk how to be happy
00:32 techuser; seems buying things doesn't make me happy
00:32 DaemonFC; She signed the mortgage, the car loans, the credit card applications (and loaded them all up and got more in Marks name and loaded those up).
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: write down what you like
00:32 DaemonFC; And they had two kids that rightfully hate her.
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; things you do enjoy do more of them
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00:32 DaemonFC; I feel for the kids, I really do.
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00:33 techuser; computers maybe? But they get destroyed by corporations all the time
00:33 DaemonFC; Mandy told me that their kids refer to her as "that bitch".
00:33 techuser; my life was about computers since early childhood
00:33 DaemonFC; She was slapping her daughter around the house one day for that.
00:33 techuser; then I noticed things are bad
00:33 DaemonFC; Because, right to her face.
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: computers can still last 10+ years
00:33 loner; schestowitz[TR]: 50years
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; if you treat them OK and repair
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; loner: at 50 even the plastics are yellowing
00:34 techuser; yes, if we don't have shitty software (or shitty updates, idk)
00:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It's not the fault of their kids that their parents are horrible people.
00:34 techuser; cuddlybear66: ^ parents
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: if you enjoy iurc, do more of it
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; better than killing time on "games"
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; also cheaper
00:34 techuser; IRC is being ruined by IRCv3
00:34 DaemonFC; Part of the reason I haven't handed their mom over to the IRS, yet, is because their kids would suffer for it.
00:34 loner; a raspi 1.3 1GH 512MiB RAM is year 2000, roughly, and with "free software" tailored for such a thing, it is good enough for another 20 years
00:34 DaemonFC; I'd be hurting people who don't deserve it and are in her orbit.
00:34 techuser; pirated videogames are ok
00:35 starstreak; IRC is being ruined by IRCv3 <--- how so?
00:35 techuser; embrace, extend and extinguish
00:35 techuser; will kill IRC
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's compatible mostly
00:35 techuser; eventually they will say compatibility needs to be sacrificed
00:35 starstreak; is irc adding image support? cuz i love memes
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; ircv3 = some more features you can use
00:35 loner; however, just as said, with "free software", i haven't got at least a libc anymore
00:36 starstreak; thats why i love discord, its like irc with graphical memes
00:36 loner; well then, back to this
00:36 loner; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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00:36 TR Bot; Apollo Guidance Computer - Wikipedia
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: irc does meme
00:36 DaemonFC; Even ChatZilla is IRCv3 compatible.
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; you put a url
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; then people click on them
00:36 loner; that's ttl7400 series era computing... why not? maybe at least this one remained free as in free as in free
00:36 DaemonFC; So it's not like there's a shortage of client software.
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; and they can opt out
00:36 techuser; DaemonFC: yes, so the cancer grows
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; by not clicking
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; or
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; some irc clients will render image links
00:36 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], fair enough but i like seeing them as part of the chat
00:36 techuser; stop turning IRC to Discord
00:36 DaemonFC; Update your damned software. If it's so old you can't use IRCv3, what security issues are in it?
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; I have one irc client that shows previews of urls in irc
00:36 techuser; fuck your updates
00:36 starstreak; techuser, LOL XD
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. it uses browser components
00:37 DaemonFC; Saying IRCv3 is Discord is ridiculous.
00:37 techuser; I can't be happy with it
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; so if you link to images it'll render them
00:37 starstreak; what irc client renders images?
00:37 techuser; IRC gets destroyed as society does
00:37 starstreak; im using hexchat and it doesnt
00:37 CrystalMath; techuser: it's all backwards compatible though
00:37 DaemonFC; If it were Discord, schestowitz[TR] would be forcing you to go to discord's Web site and load JavaShit, and a 600 MB browser tab, and he'd have no control over his "server" which wouldn't be a server.
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; I am using xchat at the moment
00:37 loner; catgirl irc client seems decent, just saying
00:37 loner; it easily links against bearssl-libtls too
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; xchat 2.8.8
00:37 CrystalMath; techuser: people can still join in with ircjr on DOS, and it works :)
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; compiled 2 years ago
00:38 techuser; iirc catgirl is evil
00:38 starstreak; one of the nice things about irc imo is that i could use dosbox-x with networking, windows 3.11 with tcp/ip and mIRC worked in 2022
00:38 techuser; because working with TLS only
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; we support non-tls
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; intentionally
00:38 CrystalMath; techuser: TLS-only is a per-server decision
00:38 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], ooooo
00:38 DaemonFC; There are good reasons to use TLS on IRC. Like, so your ISP can't log the text.
00:38 CrystalMath; DaemonFC: but not here, since the text is logged onto an HTTP server
00:39 CrystalMath; :P
00:39 CrystalMath; everybody's ISP can see this
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; CrystalMath: not all channels
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; only 5 channels
00:39 CrystalMath; i mean, everybody and their ISP
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; not direct messages and all the other channels
00:39 CrystalMath; right
00:39 DaemonFC; The ISP bulk data collection programs want to know about you.
00:39 DaemonFC; Want to know all about you.....
00:39 DaemonFC; (singing(
00:39 DaemonFC; Mr. GULAG did that!
00:40 DaemonFC; While he "changed them from within".
00:40 DaemonFC; :P
00:41 DaemonFC; I've been using Searx.be for searches and it mostly works fine.
00:41 DaemonFC; You can tell there's a clear disgust for things like GULAG and JavaShit applications, which is what New Reddit is.
00:41 techuser; waiting until they put JS onto IRC?
00:42 DaemonFC; Oh, you could use JavaShit in IRC with ChatZilla in the late 90s.
00:42 DaemonFC; That's what it's written in, and so you can also change it with JavaShit.
00:42 DaemonFC; :)
00:42 loner; catgirl irc too got a bouncer, pounce... not bad
00:42 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
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00:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
00:42 DaemonFC; But even JavaShit extensions are better than mirc script.
00:43 loner; cannot link statically yet, because this needs some different network administration, to socksify irc traffic
00:43 DaemonFC; Because mirc scripts like to call out to compiled code, and then you have no idea what the hell they're telling you to run.
00:43 loner; proxychains requires LD_PRELOAD... meh... no
00:43 loner; i'll try redsocks proxy tomorrow
00:44 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Privacy, Massive Wiki, Manjaro, and Linux Mint https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Videos_and_Shows_Privacy_Massive_Wiki_Manjaro_and_Linux_Mint.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Videos_and_Shows_Privacy_Massive_Wiki_Manjaro_and_Linux_Mint.gmi
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00:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Privacy, Massive Wiki, Manjaro, and Linux Mint
00:44 DaemonFC; JavaScript can be "minified", which by effect obfuscates it.
00:44 DaemonFC; So an open source JavaScript should have the original source and instructions on how to minify it so the user can verify how it turns into the same thing as the minified script.
00:44 loner; why would you want to re-implement shit as opensource?
00:45 TR News; Qwiic Digital Desk Sign with MicroMod - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5125 Source: SparkFun Electronics | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sparkfun.com/news/5125
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00:45 TR Bot; Digital Desk Sign with MicroMod - News - SparkFun Electronics
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00:46 TR News; Out-of-control HEY HI hype https://www.epistem.ink/p/it-looks-like-youre-trying-to-take
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00:46 TR Bot; It Looks Like Youre Trying To Take Over The Narrative
00:46 loner; i haven't got a libc anymore
00:47 TR News; Hello Shiny Python | R-bloggers https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/hello-shiny-python/ Source: R | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/hello-shiny-python/
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00:47 TR Bot; Shiny Python | R-bloggers
00:47 loner; and, why is it called libc if all of them contain malicious ASM shit?
00:47 MinceR; because it's a standard library to be used by programs written in C?
00:48 loner; yes, and those "standard" libraries contain non-standard ASM shit
00:48 loner; libasm (c) pentagon corp
00:48 TR News; "Zatko was fired from Twitter in January this year for ineffective leadership and poor performance, in the words of a Twitter spokesperson. CNNs report is very long, and worth reading in full. If even partially true, what Zatko is alleging is extremely alarming." https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/08/24/twitter-mudge
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00:48 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: Ex-Twitter Security Chief Peiter 'Mudge' Zatko Files Blockbuster Whistleblower Report Over the Platform's Security
00:49 loner; anyway, there's not much i can do anymore
00:50 TR News; "Nakamoto Scheme" https://blog.dshr.org/2022/08/investment-frauds.html
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00:50 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Investment Frauds
00:51 TR News; "The phone numbers and email addresses of anonymous dissidents are very sensitive, but Id argue that the contents of DMs are the most sensitive information Twitter holds." https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/08/24/wapo-zatko-twitter
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00:51 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: The Washington Post on Peiter 'Mudge' Zatko's Whistleblower Report on Twitter Security
00:53 DaemonFC; It's clearly time we go back to libc.so.5
00:53 loner; i fear i couldn't repair dietlibc.a at least
00:53 DaemonFC; Everything since 1997 was a mistake.
00:54 loner; almost
00:54 loner; this is the comparison i propose: just burn all books and libraries, we got wikipedia nowadays, written in php5
00:55 TR News; Maker Creates DIY Raspberry Pi Pico GPIO Ethernet Connection | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-ethernet-hack Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-ethernet-hack
=> ↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-ethernet-hack
=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-ethernet-hack
00:55 DaemonFC; Then we can recycle all of the cars and cans and beer bottles.
00:55 TR Bot; Maker Creates DIY Raspberry Pi Pico GPIO Ethernet Connection | Tom's Hardware
00:55 DaemonFC; And become Amish
00:55 TR News; (UPDATED): DeskPi Super6C mini-ITX board takes up to 6x Raspberry Pi CM4 modules (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/DeskPi_Super6C_mini_ITX_board_takes_up_to_6x_Raspberry_Pi_CM4_m.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/DeskPi_Super6C_mini_ITX_board_takes_up_to_6x_Raspberry_Pi_CM4_m.gmi
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/DeskPi_Super6C_mini_ITX_board_takes_up_to_6x_Raspberry_Pi_CM4_m.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/DeskPi_Super6C_mini_ITX_board_takes_up_to_6x_Raspberry_Pi_CM4_m.gmi
00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines DeskPi Super6C mini-ITX board takes up to 6x Raspberry Pi CM4 modules (UPDATED)
00:55 *ender2070 (~blozza@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights
00:55 schestowitz[TR]; oh
00:55 loner; DaemonFC: Amish? why? don't conflate their religion. that's distracting.
00:55 schestowitz[TR]; ender
00:56 TR News; Raspberry Pi Project Enables I2C Interface Using HDMI Port | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c
=> ↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c
=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c
00:56 ender2070; hey!
00:56 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Project Enables I2C Interface Using HDMI Port | Tom's Hardware
00:56 schestowitz[TR]; welcome back 2010
00:56 loner; because, the Amish haven't got an Apollo Guidance Computer
00:56 ender2070; im the same as starstreak
00:56 loner; nowadays, we haven't got at least this anymore
00:56 schestowitz[TR]; fedora has ambassadors again
00:56 TR News; How To Hide Passwords in Your Code With Raspberry Pi Pico W | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/hide-passwords-in-code-raspberry-pi-pico-w Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/how-to/hide-passwords-in-code-raspberry-pi-pico-w
=> ↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/hide-passwords-in-code-raspberry-pi-pico-w
=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/how-to/hide-passwords-in-code-raspberry-pi-pico-w
00:56 TR Bot; How To Hide Passwords in Your Code With Raspberry Pi Pico W | Tom's Hardware
00:57 ender2070; right now im connected to irc using windows 3.11 and mIRC
00:57 TR News; Raspberry Pi Cat Doorbell Listens for Meows | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-cat-doorbell Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-cat-doorbell
=> ↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-cat-doorbell
=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-cat-doorbell
00:57 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Cat Doorbell Listens for Meows | Tom's Hardware
00:57 schestowitz[TR]; ender2070: cannot open https links
00:58 starstreak; this is the nice thing about irc: https://i.imgur.com/1PvLUGG.png
=> ↺ https://i.imgur.com/1PvLUGG.png
00:58 starstreak; it still works in windows 3.11
00:58 TR News; Gossip about the mother instead of news. What has AP become? https://federalnewsnetwork.com/u-s-news/2022/08/attorney-florida-school-shooter-was-a-damaged-person/
00:58 TR Bot; Florida school shooters birth mom abused cocaine, alcohol | Federal News Network
00:59 *ender2070 is starstreak
00:59 *ender2070 is 16-bit
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.80
00:59 ender2070; if techrights required ssl, this wouldn't work
01:00 ender2070; there are problems with not using ssl though, my isp and the feds can read this
01:01 schestowitz[TR]; they can:
01:01 schestowitz[TR]; read morning logs
01:01 schestowitz[TR]; they can read real-time logs
01:01 schestowitz[TR]; viaa gemini
01:01 schestowitz[TR]; or my machine at home
01:01 schestowitz[TR]; or my copy on the site
01:01 schestowitz[TR]; or the site's own copy
01:02 schestowitz[TR]; but for this channel only
01:02 schestowitz[TR]; this channel is not private
01:02 schestowitz[TR]; you can private-message people
01:02 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, SparkFun, Librem, and Arduino https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun_Librem_and_Arduino.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun_Librem_and_Arduino.gmi
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun_Librem_and_Arduino.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun_Librem_and_Arduino.gmi
01:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, SparkFun, Librem, and Arduino
01:02 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/crime/armed-man-with-gas-can-taped-to-chest-fatally-shot-by-officer-in-waukegan-police-say/
01:02 TR Bot; Armed man with gas can taped to chest fatally shot by officer in Waukegan, police say | WGN-TV
01:03 DaemonFC; WAUKEGAN, Ill. An armed man was shot and killed Wednesday after ignoring a Waukegan officers verbal commands, according to police.
01:03 DaemonFC; "Waukegan, State of ILL. A man was shot after failing to obey and survive."
01:03 schestowitz[TR]; "OBEY, OBEY"
01:03 schestowitz[TR]; 2 seconds llater, shots fired
01:04 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], techrights sort of works in IE5 for Win3.11: https://i.imgur.com/Adfom1K.png
=> ↺ https://i.imgur.com/Adfom1K.png
01:04 schestowitz[TR]; "armed"= there was some postil in a holster somewhere
01:04 schestowitz[TR]; "so that's OK then"
01:04 DaemonFC; It was a knife.
01:04 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], i tried clicking on a link but it was too large to load
01:04 DaemonFC; "Authorities note that as the officer attempted to put out the blaze with a fire extinguisher, a man armed with a knife, hammer and gas can taped to his chest advanced toward the officer.
01:04 DaemonFC; Police ordered the male subject to stop advancing. When the male offender didnt comply, the officer opened fire, wounding the victim. "
01:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: he could throw it!
01:05 schestowitz[TR]; did they shoot the legs?
01:05 DaemonFC; Nope. Center mass.
01:05 DaemonFC; :)
01:05 schestowitz[TR]; cops
01:05 DaemonFC; You think they're going to kneecap someone, Roy?
01:05 DaemonFC; You aim for center mass. It's not the most effective place to shoot someone but it's the most likely place to hit.
01:06 DaemonFC; Then if you need to, you can shoot them more.
01:06 schestowitz[TR]; ender2070: not I remember that globe thing
01:06 DaemonFC; Like shooting them in the back after they're on the ground and barely even alive.
01:06 DaemonFC; Totally justified!
01:06 DaemonFC; Now the cop can say whatever lie he wants.
01:07 schestowitz[TR]; "failing to obey and survive.""
01:07 DaemonFC; No chance that the victim pulls through and contradicts his story.
01:07 schestowitz[TR]; Interesting wording
01:07 schestowitz[TR]; like "offcer-involved shooting'
01:07 schestowitz[TR]; we shot a man with a hammer in the lungs and heart
01:07 schestowitz[TR]; he was hammered
01:07 ender2070; lol
01:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], In Grand Theft Auto V, the police in California have "Obey and Survive" on the door of all the cop cars.
01:07 DaemonFC; So I just started saying it when I saw that.
01:08 ender2070; im a genius, i configured an ne2000 network card in dosbox-x and added it to windows 3.11, then installed microsoft tcp/ip and an old version of 16-bit mIRC
01:08 DaemonFC; What the politicians really hate about video games is it teaches kids to hate police officers.
01:08 schestowitz[TR]; your country loves guns more than it valued life
01:08 DaemonFC; It portrays the cops as violent, unintelligent savages.
01:08 schestowitz[TR]; *values
01:08 DaemonFC; Even better, corrupt, on the take, etc.
01:08 DaemonFC; Duke Nukem even had "pig cops".
01:09 DaemonFC; And they'd run around with "LARD" on their uniforms.
01:09 schestowitz[TR]; pigs are quite harmless
01:09 schestowitz[TR]; LAPD=LARD
01:09 DaemonFC; Yeah
01:10 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY9-2xJE5eU
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY9-2xJE5eU
01:10 TR Bot; https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=qY9-2xJE5eU
=> ↺ https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=qY9-2xJE5eU
01:10 TR Bot; yt.artemislena.eu | Down Periscope Stocking the Pantry - Invidious
01:10 schestowitz[TR]; "ghetto people"
01:11 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], https://i.imgur.com/dIl43xx.png
=> ↺ https://i.imgur.com/dIl43xx.png
01:11 ender2070; this is so retro
01:11 schestowitz[TR]; when was 3.11 released?
01:11 *ender2070 slaps starstreak around a bit with a large trout
01:11 ender2070; 1993
01:12 ender2070; so a 30 year old OS is working fine on irc
01:13 *ender2070 is now known as ender2070_16bit
01:13 starstreak; -ender2070_16bit- VERSION mIRC16 v5.31 K.Mardam-Bey
01:13 ender2070_16bit; XD
01:14 loner; ender2070_16bit: DOSBox isn't 30years old
01:14 schestowitz[TR]; I will use the screenshots shortly :-0
01:14 schestowitz[TR]; thanks
01:14 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y52-nr-P1EU
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y52-nr-P1EU
01:14 TR Bot; JONATHAN BANKS | Mike Ehrmantraut & Tuco Salamanca | Better Call Saul - Invidious
01:14 schestowitz[TR]; celebrating backward compat
01:14 ender2070_16bit; oh cool!
01:15 ender2070_16bit; loner: I know dosbox isn't 30 years old but I did boot DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11 in it
01:15 loner; and neither were "free software" nor "open source"
01:15 ender2070_16bit; I needed a config.sys so I had to boot the OS instead of use the emulated dos
01:18 ender2070_16bit; I suppose I could have used FreeDOS
01:18 ender2070_16bit; I was doing this for nostalgia sake though
01:18 loner; there's even some open-source (with Verilog) ia32 SoC available (without ethernet i think)
01:19 loner; it's impressive still, except, except for the minor missing pieces of this
01:19 ender2070_16bit; I would love to setup all this on bare metal some day, maybe i can find a vintage computer
01:19 ender2070_16bit; the mister fpga might be a good choice
01:19 ender2070_16bit; i think it has a 486 module
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:20 loner; https://github.com/archlabo/Frix
=> ↺ https://github.com/archlabo/Frix
01:20 TR Bot; - archlabo/Frix: IBM PC Compatible SoC for a commercially available FPGA board
01:20 *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights
01:20 loner; https://github.com/alfikpl/ao486
=> ↺ https://github.com/alfikpl/ao486
01:20 TR Bot; - alfikpl/ao486: The ao486 is an x86 compatible Verilog core implementing all features of a 486 SX.
01:20 loner; however, i think those are missing ethernet/usb1
01:20 loner; and, the Altera tooling isn't "free" nor "opensource" either
01:21 TR News; (NEW): Privacy and Security Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.gmi
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.gmi
01:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Privacy and Security Leftovers
01:21 loner; just as said, i backtracked this, and arrived at ttl7400 series era computing, if at all
01:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Just do what they say.
01:22 DaemonFC; They're not fucking around.
01:22 loner; because then, with this type of computing, there is little to no chance for ethernet and tcp/ip
01:22 DaemonFC; If you give a cop any excuse to kill you, they can and they very well might.
01:23 DaemonFC; You're really playing with fire because there's pretty much no accountability.
01:23 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Programming_Leftovers.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
01:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
01:24 TR News; http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/compiz-0-9-14-2/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/compiz-0-9-14-2/
01:24 TR Bot; Links 24/08/2022: Mishi Choudhary Leaves Software Freedom Law Center and Release of Compiz 0.9.14.2 | Techrights
01:24 ender2070_16bit; loner: im not doing this to avoid the GNU/FSF/UN/Pentagon/IBM/Wintel conspiracy
01:25 loner; there's many reasons to do it
01:26 ender2070_16bit; lol Hexchat uses 50.1MB of ram, DOSBOX-X uses 118.9MB ram
01:27 ender2070_16bit; loner: pretty much all CPUs have backdoors in them, even arm (trustzone)
01:29 techuser; yes, because people let corporations do computers
01:29 techuser; inventing a computer was either a mistake, or an evildoing
01:29 ender2070_16bit; I do have some hope with risc-v and openrisc
01:29 techuser; I have none
01:30 ender2070_16bit; you could always buy a computer older than a core2duo
01:30 techuser; can these processors be done/altered at home?
01:30 techuser; without really expensive equipment
01:32 ender2070_16bit; fair enough
01:32 loner; i doubt there will be at least a libc without evil ASM extensions available, only GNU binutils could digest
01:33 TR News; Techrights Compatible With Computers From 30+ Years Ago | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/
01:33 TR Bot; Techrights Compatible With Computers From 30+ Years Ago | Techrights
01:33 ender2070_16bit; hrm, mIRC doesn't seem to use the sound card, its using the pc speaker
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; try:
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; gemini.techrights.org
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; ssl optional
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; see if the context is legible
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; *content
01:35 techuser; does Gemini works without TLS at all?
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's serving over port 80 too
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; and 443
01:35 ender2070_16bit; i don't think gemini uses 80/443
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; it does web
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; that's my home ip address
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's in my living room
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; see how msie copes
01:36 ender2070_16bit; your gemini server does http too?
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; yes
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; we wrotew aproxy
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; in perl
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; it does ipfs also
01:37 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D333.jpg
=> ↺ gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D333.jpg
01:37 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D683.jpg
=> ↺ gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D683.jpg
01:38 DaemonFC; Never underestimate will to live.
01:38 TR News; On Keeping Gimmicks Out of the Classroom gemini://rochelimit.uk/articles/20220824_on_keeping_gimmicks_out_of_the_classroom.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://rochelimit.uk/articles/20220824_on_keeping_gimmicks_out_of_the_classroom.gmi
01:38 DaemonFC; Like that time Gonad the Barbarian had me in the chokehold, bleeding profusely, concussed.
01:38 TR News; "The point is made that any new approach to teaching will produce measurable improvements, but only because of the enthusiasm of the practitioner. Infectious enthusiasm is most likely the key, and not all teachers have that, so maybe the gadgets help these classes. But I'm not convinced." gemini://rochelimit.uk/articles/20220824_on_keeping_gimmicks_out_of_the_classroom.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://rochelimit.uk/articles/20220824_on_keeping_gimmicks_out_of_the_classroom.gmi
01:38 DaemonFC; And right before it all went dark, I managed to grab a large rock and break his hand in two places so I could get away from him.
01:39 DaemonFC; He was a soldier. I was a teenager. I still quickly figured it out at the last minute what I had to do to live.
01:40 *ender2070_16bit slaps DaemonFC around a bit with a large trout
01:40 DaemonFC; My mother had my go lie to the prosecutor and play it down.
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; you could kick him in the gnats :-)
01:40 DaemonFC; Two weeks later I was homeless anyway, and they made him pay a small fine and go to anger management.
01:40 ender2070_16bit; i used the mirc slap command lol
01:41 ender2070_16bit; this is so retro its glorious
01:41 ender2070_16bit; a/s/l?
01:41 DaemonFC; 15 F Police Trap
01:41 DaemonFC; Errr, I mean, Taco Bell.....Come meet me. Bring a lot of incriminating shit with you.
01:41 DaemonFC; I mean LOL!
01:42 DaemonFC; Why don't you have a seat?
01:42 DaemonFC; :)
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; s/s/l?
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; "NO!"
01:42 DaemonFC; Only the United States could make a reality show about a bunch of old perverts showing up to try to fuck kids and laugh at them running from the police.
01:43 starstreak; https://www.retrorgb.com/mister.html
=> ↺ https://www.retrorgb.com/mister.html
01:43 TR Bot; FPGA Hardware | RetroRGB
01:43 ender2070_16bit; a/s/l means age/sex/location
01:43 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GhkypiYyqTU
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GhkypiYyqTU
01:43 TR Bot; To Catch A Predator Host Chris Hansen Arrested - Invidious
01:43 ender2070_16bit; its something i used to ask a lot on IRC back before 2000
01:44 ender2070_16bit; i would hang out in #teenzone on DALnet when i was growing up
01:44 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zJIlftta6fk
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zJIlftta6fk
01:44 TR Bot; Man brings pizza to teens house, meets Chris Hansen instead - Invidious
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; dalnet is still online
01:44 ender2070_16bit; yes it is
01:44 ender2070_16bit; im too old for #teenzone now though
01:45 techuser; I wonder why age matters
01:45 techuser; why do they create these weird channels
01:45 ender2070_16bit; lol
01:45 ender2070_16bit; a place for teens to ask each other asl and hook up
01:45 techuser; make kids grow up asap and start working all day until they die
01:46 ender2070_16bit; i used to have online girlfriends way before I had real ones
01:46 DaemonFC; https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/werewolfsboxingforum53765/jeff-sokol-died-last-summer-t3468.html
=> ↺ https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/werewolfsboxingforum53765/jeff-sokol-died-last-summer-t3468.html
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's not what irc does
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's what schools do
01:46 TR Bot; Jeff Sokol died last summer - Hotel Dixie Boxing Forum
01:46 DaemonFC; https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/16835/predator-rabbit-sokols-divorce-bankruptcy
=> ↺ https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/16835/predator-rabbit-sokols-divorce-bankruptcy
01:46 TR Bot; predator rabbit hole: Jeff Sokol's divorce and bankruptcy | Temple of TCAP
01:46 DaemonFC; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/214277280/jeffrey-sokol
=> ↺ https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/214277280/jeffrey-sokol
01:46 TR Bot; Jeffrey Jeff Sokol (1971-2020) - Find a Grave Memorial
01:46 ender2070_16bit; i remember back in the 90s, i scanned my student ID photo to hand out to online girls
01:46 ender2070_16bit; before digital cameras
01:47 techuser; I know some online girls
01:47 DaemonFC; Chris Hansen's show has caused at least three of the men they ensnared to commit suicide.
01:47 ender2070_16bit; and even now in 2022, i prefer online people to real people
01:47 ender2070_16bit; because i have social anxiety
01:47 techuser; idk why should I meet them
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; my fist "online gf" from from thunderbay
01:47 ender2070_16bit; im asexual now so i actually would prefer to meet a woman and date her online only
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; *first
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; but I met some whom I met "irl"
01:48 techuser; horseface thinks cuddlybear66 is my online girlfriend
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; before "irl" and "afk" was a thing
01:48 ender2070_16bit; schestowitz[tr] was that thunderbay, ontario?
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; yes
01:48 ender2070_16bit; nice
01:48 techuser; but I treat her as just an "IRC friend", like others
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; she even conatcted me right before I got married
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; which was strange
01:48 ender2070_16bit; i still have my six digit ICQ number
01:48 ender2070_16bit; (yes ICQ is still around)
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; icq = putin :-)
01:49 techuser; Helenah is another IRC female I know, once again no special attraction to her
01:49 ender2070_16bit; i think a russian company owns icq now
01:49 techuser; there are others maybe
01:49 ender2070_16bit; add me on ICQ, my UIN is 438570
01:49 techuser; I hate genders and sexes
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; irc was ahead of its time in some ways
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; like experimental real-time typing
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; over modem
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; ytalk still does this
01:49 ender2070_16bit; there is a plugin for pidgin that works with the new icq protocol
01:50 techuser; ender2070_16bit: iirc old ICQ protocol supports custom servers
01:50 techuser; but I did fail to find good clients for it
01:50 Helenah; techuser: I don't need special attraction towards me. lol
01:50 DaemonFC; Lesson 1: Don't believe anything a person on the other end of a computer tells you.
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; irc = software youi use to find out people's ip addresses and then winnuke them
01:50 techuser; ender2070_16bit: are you from somewhere the former USSR?
01:50 Helenah; I don't need to be the centre of attention.
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; also see: icq
01:50 ender2070_16bit; nah
01:50 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> irc = software youi use to find out people's ip addresses and then winnuke them
01:50 ender2070_16bit; techuser - im from ontario, canada
01:50 Helenah; I have ADHD but that doesn't mean I'm a brat.
01:51 ender2070_16bit; ICQ was popular here back in the 90s and early 00s
01:51 DaemonFC; There were a lot of Yahoo Messenger nukes that I used to use on people.
01:51 ender2070_16bit; before msn messenger came out
01:51 ender2070_16bit; then it was msn
01:51 DaemonFC; AIM had them too. The software wasn't very well written.
01:51 DaemonFC; It had a lot of DDoS attack vulnerabilities.
01:51 ender2070_16bit; i miss the days of pidgin with msn/aim/icq
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; you ended up running "antuinuke"
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; any of the bunch
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; a whole process
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; just to block packets
01:52 schestowitz[TR]; instead of having the bug patches
01:52 DaemonFC; Yeah, there was YTunnel to protect against Yahoo booters targeting you.
01:52 schestowitz[TR]; *patvcched
01:52 ender2070_16bit; pidgin uses about 50MB ram and discord uses about 400MB
01:52 techuser; I'm not asexual, but the way sex is done makes me unwilling to do it with people
01:52 DaemonFC; I cracked it and turned it into YTunnelPro.
01:52 techuser; I mean, males harassing female to get sex
01:52 DaemonFC; https://www.neowin.net/news/ytunnelpro-25-build-498-beta/
=> ↺ https://www.neowin.net/news/ytunnelpro-25-build-498-beta/
01:52 TR Bot; Y!TunnelPro 2.5 Build 498 Beta - Neowin
01:53 techuser; then marriage happening and the relationships sometimes getting toxic
01:53 DaemonFC; There were a lot of minors on the Indiana_M4M room.
01:53 techuser; then suicides or other issues because failures at love
01:53 DaemonFC; Worse than Grindr. Much worse. It was totally unregulated, and the police back then didn't really have any sort of organized online presence.
01:53 DaemonFC; How do I know there were a lot of minors? I was 15 years old.
01:54 DaemonFC; I was meeting adults online and having sex with them at 15. Like, when my parents weren't there.
01:54 DaemonFC; They never really were. Off at work, or mom cheating on dad, or dad off with Jan.
01:54 starstreak; https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems <--- a great place for retro stuff
=> ↺ https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
01:54 TR Bot; WinWorld: Library
01:54 starstreak; they even got old versions of windows
01:54 techuser; I never had sex and probably not going to have it
01:55 ender2070_16bit; virgin alert
01:55 ender2070_16bit; how old are you techuser?
01:55 DaemonFC; There was a 38 year old man in South Bend, Indiana that was sending me nudes when I was 15.
01:55 techuser; 18
01:55 DaemonFC; Just emailing them to me.
01:55 ender2070_16bit; nvm
01:55 DaemonFC; He said his name was Joe Schaffer.
01:55 schestowitz[TR]; i actually did sleep with my first "online g/f"
01:55 DaemonFC; I mean, people didn't even hide it back then because there was really nobody looking for it.
01:55 ender2070_16bit; i was a virgin till i was 19
01:55 schestowitz[TR]; but only when we were about 20
01:56 ender2070_16bit; schestowits[tr] the one from thunderbay?
01:56 techuser; btw cuddlybear66 thinks sex is only acceptable when it is to get pregrant and give birth to a child
01:56 ender2070_16bit; schestowitz[tr] the one from thunderbay?
01:56 schestowitz[TR]; yes, she was already in winniipeg by then
01:56 ender2070_16bit; ahhh
01:56 ender2070_16bit; nice :)
01:56 DaemonFC; After there was an organized police crackdown, it scared away all the ones that were smart enough to realize that it could be a trap and something really awful would happen to them. Right?
01:56 DaemonFC; In the late 90s, there were few sex offender lists.
01:57 ender2070_16bit; I was in love with this girl from alberta
01:57 ender2070_16bit; but we never met
01:57 DaemonFC; No online sex crime police units.
01:57 ender2070_16bit; she was in love with my friend
01:57 DaemonFC; The laws weren't that tough. The absolute worst that might happen is they bust you on something and send you to jail for a year or two.
01:57 DaemonFC; So more people were open about it.
01:58 DaemonFC; If I had to put my finger on when that changed, I'd say around 2005 or so.
01:58 techuser; love is too expensive
01:58 techuser; I partially have social anxiety, partially unwillingness to interact with people in some ways
01:58 DaemonFC; By then the politicians had caught up with it and passed tough laws and made it something that would ruin your life if you got caught, and gave cops unlimited funding.
01:58 DaemonFC; So now the only people they catch are the stupid ones.
01:59 DaemonFC; Because those are the people nothing will scare off.
01:59 ender2070_16bit; i got full blown social anxiety, i have panic attacks around too many people
01:59 schestowitz[TR]; or the "fallman"?
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 128.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 125.85
01:59 schestowitz[TR]; rich allen jones?
01:59 techuser; like I don't support "love" because it makes one waste money and go into toxic relationships
02:00 ender2070_16bit; fair enough
02:00 ender2070_16bit; you're too young to be so cynical though
02:00 techuser; I think the issue is that my life was about computers from early childhood, then I realized things were always wrong with computers, and now idk what I want to do at all
02:01 techuser; I can't be happy with computers, but at the same time I did replace "real life" with computers in before
02:01 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> rich allen jones?
02:01 DaemonFC; I think he was stupid.
02:01 schestowitz[TR]; computers don't last long
02:01 ender2070_16bit; i've replaced real life with computers and its amazing
02:01 schestowitz[TR]; compared to humans
02:01 DaemonFC; It's a pretty safe assumption that anyone who knows how the system works and gets caught is stupid.
02:01 schestowitz[TR]; even some OLD cars can last 50 years
02:01 techuser; so I have no hope
02:01 techuser; no life and bad computers
02:03 techuser; I tried to get into free software. It seems I met agents. Liars who told me that GNU/Linux is really good and it will save me. It isn't.
02:03 techuser; it is ruined by systemd and other shit
02:03 techuser; anything big has corporation parasites
02:04 ender2070_16bit; is this allowed?
02:04 techuser; colors
02:04 techuser; yes
02:04 ender2070_16bit; i still remembered how to do it in mIRC
02:05 techuser; however I'm now going to sleep
02:05 techuser; see you... if ever?
02:05 techuser; people disappear and never appear again
02:05 ender2070_16bit; ill be around
02:05 ender2070_16bit; im starstreak/britney
02:05 techuser; ok
02:05 ender2070_16bit; see ya :)
02:06 techuser; I don't notice/remember behavior patterns often, so a nickname change can make me think a person did disappear
02:06 ender2070_16bit; i lost "britney" because i was an idiot with nickserv
02:06 schestowitz[TR]; this discussion made me reecall a lot of things
02:06 DaemonFC; Yeah, I feel like every generation says this.
02:06 DaemonFC; But we grew up a lot faster I think.
02:06 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: in my experience, you won't find compatible girls online
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; it's like depicting characters in a book without illustrations
02:07 techuser; (still here) oh, I'm not looking for them
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; then you meet in person and it's all different
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; defies expectations
02:07 techuser; I just happened to know cuddlybear66 is a girl
02:07 techuser; I don't ask
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; girls I met through irc and icq were not compatible
02:07 ender2070_16bit; schestowitz[tr]: it was better back in the 90s and early 00s for women because computers were more rare so you found women online with the same interests
02:07 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> even some OLD cars can last 50 years
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; it was all platonic, also due to our age
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; like 15-17
02:07 ender2070_16bit; now im on dating apps and i have nothing in common with these women
02:07 DaemonFC; They figured out the Buick emissions problem. That's solved.
02:07 techuser; I don't expect to meet anyone irl
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; girld I knew from work were more compatible
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; the "first girldfriend" thing, she contacted me before my wedding
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; so clearly she was still stalking me 15 years later
02:08 techuser; if I want sex I can masturbate, though need to get rid of this habit if possible at some point
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; after the wedding another girlfriend of mine (we met as she was a neighbour) wrote to me
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; she was back in chian by then
02:09 DaemonFC; These people on that Predator show made a lot of obvious mistakes.
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; girls stalk guys online
02:09 ender2070_16bit; guys stalk girls too
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; but there's this stigma or "pervy" guys stalking girls
02:09 DaemonFC; Chief among them was planning to trespass in another person's house.
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; *of
02:09 DaemonFC; That's actually worse than the sex offense, as far as consequences go.
02:10 DaemonFC; Even if it was real, if dad shows up and shoots you, nobody is going to convict dad.
02:10 Helenah; hmm
02:10 Helenah; :3
02:10 *Helenah gives DaemonFC a hamper of chocolates
02:10 schestowitz[TR]; people you "meet" online = almost always disappointment
02:10 *Helenah gives schestowitz[TR] a hamper of chocolates
02:10 schestowitz[TR]; for dating anyway
02:10 *Helenah gives ender2070_16bit a hamper of chocolates
02:10 Helenah; Hi hi
02:10 schestowitz[TR]; maybe not for collaboration etc.
02:10 techuser; so probably going to sleep now
02:10 *Helenah gives techuser a hamper of chocolates
02:10 DaemonFC; There was this case in Texas a few months ago where a woman caught a man having sex with her teenage daughter.
02:11 DaemonFC; So she ran over him with their car.
02:11 DaemonFC; Nobody even filed charges against her for doing that.
02:11 ender2070_16bit; hey Helenah!
02:11 Helenah; Hi :D
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; 0/
02:11 DaemonFC; It's Texas. They know the jury won't cooperate.
02:11 ender2070_16bit; im starstreak in windows 3.11/16-bit mirc
02:11 Helenah; I want a bit off the rails on another IRC network.... :/
02:11 TR News; Stop uploading photos to ZuckerCreep for merely some useless effects you can apply offline anyway https://www.maketecheasier.com/search-camera-filters-effects-instagram/
=> ↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/search-camera-filters-effects-instagram/
02:11 TR Bot; How to Search for and Use Camera Filters and Effects on Instagram - Make Tech Easier
02:12 starstreak; Helenah, https://i.imgur.com/dIl43xx.png
=> ↺ https://i.imgur.com/dIl43xx.png
02:12 *Helenah clickifies
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; ender2070_16bit: I assume you cannot be winnuked there
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; as it's a VM
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; or simialr
02:12 Helenah; Ooooooh nostalgia!
02:13 Helenah; Too bad it's Windows
02:13 ender2070_16bit; i dont know actually
02:13 Helenah; :(
02:13 ender2070_16bit; windows 3.11 is probably vulnerable to stuff
02:13 Helenah; Me want no windows, no gates.
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; otherwise I'd send you a packet
02:13 ender2070_16bit; lol
02:13 Helenah; Just doors and penguins to walk through them.
02:13 ender2070_16bit; it IS a vm running DOS 6.22 and Win3.11
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; The Doors
02:13 Helenah; Ah
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8lVqEchxIxw
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8lVqEchxIxw
02:14 TR Bot; The Doors - Touch Me - Invidious
02:14 Helenah; I just wanna............. GNU/Linux
02:14 Helenah; :D
02:14 starstreak; Helenah, https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems <--- a great place for retro stuff
=> ↺ https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
02:14 TR Bot; WinWorld: Library
02:14 ender2070_16bit; you can find retro versions of linux there
02:15 Helenah; Okay I'll install it inside a VM ender2070_16bit but only because it's soo old and won't spy on me and steal my files and all that stuff, you know?
02:15 ender2070_16bit; lol
02:15 ender2070_16bit; i use arch btw, it doesnt do those things either
02:15 Helenah; Me too
02:15 Helenah; and devuan
02:16 ender2070_16bit; i know lol
02:16 *ender2070_16bit is starstreak
02:16 Helenah; Yeah I'm too stoned to keep tabs on everyone around here...
02:16 ender2070_16bit; i dont mind systemd so i use centos stream 9 for servers
02:16 ender2070_16bit; i love firewalld
02:17 Helenah; iptables here
02:17 TR News; A fuzzy issue of responsible disclosure [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/904293/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/904293/
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02:17 TR Bot; fuzzy issue of responsible disclosure [LWN.net]
02:17 ender2070_16bit; firewalld is a noob frontend for iptables
02:17 Helenah; Ah
02:17 Helenah; sysvinit and openrc here.
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HqKXXiNl3TQ
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HqKXXiNl3TQ
02:17 TR Bot; The Best Of The Doors - Invidious
02:17 Helenah; and systemd
02:18 Helenah; I'm moving my arch systems to artix.
02:18 Helenah; I'll be down to sysvinit and openrc then.
02:18 ender2070_16bit; i can get a VM for $1/month with 512mb ram so systemd isnt such a big deal anymore
02:18 Helenah; Don't run systemd on that!
02:18 Helenah; lol
02:19 TR News; Tornado Cash and collateral damage [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/904960/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/904960/
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02:19 TR Bot; Cash and collateral damage [LWN.net]
02:19 ender2070_16bit; why not
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; artix is good
02:19 ender2070_16bit; last time i had a vm, a centos system with systemd used around 130mb ram
02:19 Helenah; systemd eats resources like candy and you only got 512 MB RAM
02:19 ender2070_16bit; with cjdns and znc
02:19 Helenah; systemd isn't an init system, it's a suite of system utilities, one being the init system.
02:20 ender2070_16bit; i know
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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02:20 Helenah; Up to you but don't be surprised.
02:20 ender2070_16bit; it really doesnt use that much ram
02:20 ender2070_16bit; im not trying to squeeze everything into a 128mb ram vm
02:20 TR News; (UPDATED): Linux 6 RC1 (Many Updates, UPDATEDx9) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/15/Linus_Torvalds_Linux_6_0_rc1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/15/Linus_Torvalds_Linux_6_0_rc1.gmi
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02:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux 6 RC1 (Many Updates, UPDATEDx9)
02:20 Helenah; I don't know I had to remove it from my IRC servers because it filled up a chunk of the 128 MB RAM
02:21 Helenah; Now the servers only use around 64 MB RAM each.
02:21 ender2070_16bit; yeah thats good
02:21 schestowitz[TR]; are they hosted at home?
02:22 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: On my hypervisor.
02:22 ender2070_16bit; is your hypervisor at home?
02:22 Helenah; No, dc.
02:22 schestowitz[TR]; my rasdpi server uses 750MB of RAM atm
02:22 Helenah; Ah
02:22 schestowitz[TR]; file server+webserver(nginx)+gemini+ipfs..
02:23 loner; my distro, with ssh active and nfs mounted requires 32MiB RAM
02:23 schestowitz[TR]; but this time I booted it into a desktop env too
02:23 Helenah; I even have a web server using only around 20 MB RAM of 32 MB RAM
02:23 ender2070_16bit; i had ssh+cjdns+znc+systemd running around 130MB
02:24 Helenah; That's good going!
02:24 schestowitz[TR]; ipfs can take up 400mb, but that varies
02:24 Helenah; I am a low footprint person.
02:24 ender2070_16bit; i wonder if i should put my collection of conspiracy books on ipfs
02:25 XRevan86; britney: i still have my six digit ICQ number (yes ICQ is still around)" <- Did ye confirm your phone number there?
02:25 Helenah; Try sleeping outside and you will appreciate life more and understand what it means to be low footprint.
02:26 ender2070_16bit; XRevan86: I wasn't asked for a phone number
02:26 TR News; ZDNet is NOT dead. 3 "Linux" articles in past 9 days. Used to be 3 per day ;-)(
02:26 XRevan86; "firewalld is a noob frontend for iptables" <- For nftables.
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; I think in icq I'm a 5-digit number
02:27 ender2070_16bit; nice!
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; I cannot even recall my username
02:27 ender2070_16bit; you can login with the number
02:27 XRevan86; britney: They require it these days.
02:27 *schestowitz[TR] checks notes
02:27 XRevan86; Unless they dropped the requirement for whatever reason.
02:27 ender2070_16bit; XRevan86: I use pidgin with the new icq protocol plugin, nothing asked me for a phone number
02:28 ender2070_16bit; i even used the ios app and same thing
02:28 ender2070_16bit; the problem is, nobody uses icq anymore so theres no point lol
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; "-See what happens with old 166 MMX computer which is unused. Consider taking it as only problem is modem contacts. If taken, fetch keyboard, (mouse) and wires as well. Extra PB monitor is already in possession. see if old files, ICQ and E-mail can be dug up."
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; 2003 notes
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; I wanted to excavate m,y old computer 19 years ago
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; maybe with irc stuff on it
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02:29 ender2070_16bit; its a shame i deleted my old files
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; I wonder if https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirabilis_(company) kept full logs
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirabilis_(company)
02:29 TR Bot; Mirabilis (company) - Wikipedia
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; and, if so, what happened to them
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; they can use them as dirt on people who are not much older
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; imagine they selling them to you
02:30 schestowitz[TR]; very old chats
02:30 ender2070_16bit; all they got is teenage me talking to girls online lol
02:31 schestowitz[TR]; you never know
02:31 schestowitz[TR]; how thee things can be weaponised
02:31 XRevan86; britney: I mean, there's always FSB to talk to :)
02:31 schestowitz[TR]; when social control is taken up a notch
02:31 schestowitz[TR]; to classify people
02:31 ender2070_16bit; lol XRevan86
02:31 schestowitz[TR]; to be clear, I didn't do anything illegal in irc
02:31 schestowitz[TR]; but I'm sure many did
02:31 schestowitz[TR]; and they don't need to use illegal things
02:32 XRevan86; Do I count?
02:32 schestowitz[TR]; they can use "embrassing"
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; same for browsing history, email..
02:33 XRevan86; britney: This reminds me that there was a case where as evidence the prosecution provided ICQ private messages obtained by unknown means.
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; everyone onm the planet once upon a time landed on some nazi site, even by sheer sderendipity
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; in EPO we saw how such stuff gets weaponised even to discredit judges
02:34 ender2070_16bit; I once had a conversation with Andrian Lamo over AIM
02:34 ender2070_16bit; we used the encryption plugin in pidgin
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; he spoke to me in twitter
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; before he died
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; Adrian
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Lamo
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Lamo
02:35 TR Bot; Adrian Lamo - Wikipedia
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; what's the latest?
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; "Despite a complete autopsy and supplemental testing, no definitive cause of death was identified."
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article210989594.html
=> ↺ http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article210989594.html
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4498280/Adrian-20-Lamo.pdf
=> ↺ https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4498280/Adrian-20-Lamo.pdf
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; why does Wikipediaa have such a long article about him?
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; comes to show hoiw stupid wikipedia is
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; it's not like he's a very important person
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; I know people who get people to write extensive wikipedia pages about themselves
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; toi make them LOOK important
02:36 ender2070_16bit; there was this really good documentary which included Andrian Lamo called "Hackers Wanted" and it made me find him
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; "b"
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; "Lamo was best known for reporting U.S. soldier Chelsea Manning to Army criminal investigators in 2010"
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; This was his claim to fame
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; beign a rat
02:37 Helenah; Mew
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; *being
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02:37 schestowitz[TR]; apparently with tantoo fbi somethiong
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02:37 ender2070_16bit; i love Chelsea Manning
02:37 XRevan86; > ICQ < https://zona.media/news/2018/05/17/ispyonyou >
=> ↺ https://zona.media/news/2018/05/17/ispyonyou
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; being turned into asset, allagedly
02:37 XRevan86; Found it.
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; *llgedly
02:38 schestowitz[TR]; "Lamo was a grey hat hacker who viewed the rise of the World Wide Web with a mixture of excitement and alarm. "
02:38 schestowitz[TR]; This is not info
02:38 schestowitz[TR]; this is promotional prose
02:38 schestowitz[TR]; an obituary
02:38 Helenah; I <3 my cat, he's loyal to me. :3
02:38 schestowitz[TR]; in wikipedia
02:38 Helenah; He follows me everywhere.
02:39 Helenah; I treat him like a baby.
02:39 schestowitz[TR]; wikipedia's demise makes me sad, I gave them lots of links
02:39 Helenah; <3
02:39 ender2070_16bit; i love cats
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-240822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-240822.txt
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02:39 schestowitz[TR]; our neighbours' cats come here
02:39 schestowitz[TR]; we pat them, let them off
02:39 Helenah; ender2070_16bit: He follows me to the shop!
02:39 Helenah; :D
02:39 schestowitz[TR]; no responsibility needed
02:39 Helenah; And I let him do it!!! :D
02:39 schestowitz[TR]; no fur in the home
02:39 ender2070_16bit; :D
02:39 Helenah; Then he waits outside the shop for me!
02:40 Helenah; It's like having a dog on a lead exept it's a cat that acts as your companion! :D
02:40 Helenah; I fuckin' <3 him!
02:40 ender2070_16bit; thats so cute
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02:40 Helenah; Yeah :D
02:40 schestowitz[TR]; yo dawg, i heard you hed cats!
02:40 Helenah; There is even a main road, he like... waits for cars to go by before crossing, what a smart cat!
02:40 Helenah; Anyway...
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02:41 Helenah; I can't reproduce and like I love him like he's offspring, he's soo lovely <3
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02:41 Helenah; He's called George
02:41 schestowitz[TR]; cats are vicious animals:-)
02:41 Helenah; Or Georgeeeeeeeee
02:41 schestowitz[TR]; big cats are bigly vicious animals
02:41 Helenah; because cats respond better to that in like a high pitch
02:41 schestowitz[TR]; they gang up on harmless large mammals
02:42 ender2070_16bit; i had a cat named Xenu, i named her after scientology's devil
02:42 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: He has a bell.
02:42 ender2070_16bit; Lord Xenu
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02:42 Helenah; So no bird killing.
02:42 schestowitz[TR]; ender@xenu # du
02:42 ender2070_16bit; lol
02:43 Helenah; I respect the environment and domesticated cats are an imbalance in the eco system, they are by nature bigger than that, they are now at a bigger advantage because of their tiny lightweight bodies.
02:43 ender2070_16bit; my hostname is actually "archbtw"
02:43 Helenah; People don't think of this but it's true!
02:43 Helenah; They're a man made speices...
02:43 schestowitz[TR]; "i use archbtw btw'
02:43 Helenah; They have been bred by humans to be that way.
02:43 ender2070_16bit; LOL
02:44 Helenah; So I think humans should take full responsibility for what they created.
02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-24.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-24.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:44 loner; cats eat squirrels, they're brutal
02:44 schestowitz[TR]; 'created'
02:44 Helenah; But yeah he's sweeeeeeet :3
02:44 schestowitz[TR]; selective breeding
02:44 Helenah; loner: Yeah but mine can't because he has a bell.
02:44 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is just angry that free speech finds a way.
02:44 schestowitz[TR]; taking oddball small ones
02:44 schestowitz[TR]; iterating over and over
02:44 DaemonFC; I haven't seen any strong evidence that even Kiwi Farms has driven anyone to suicide.
02:44 schestowitz[TR]; until the animals cannot even give natural birth
02:44 Helenah; The point of the bell is so nearby creatures can hear the cat approaching.
02:45 schestowitz[TR]; and struggle to beathe
02:45 schestowitz[TR]; *breathe
02:45 DaemonFC; One of the three possible examples listed on Wikipedia was a pseudonym of a person who may or may not have ever existed.
02:46 DaemonFC; The administrator of the site tells another story completely.
02:46 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/254332
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02:46 DaemonFC; One of being "deplatformed" by Cancel Culture people and constant harassment via lawsuit.
02:47 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/254342
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02:47 DaemonFC; It may be better to revive the site as a Tor Hidden Service.
02:47 DaemonFC; That would make it harder to take down.
02:47 *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights
02:47 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
02:47 DaemonFC; They haven't actually done anything illegal, but people like GULAG don't care about that.
02:47 starstreak; Hackers Wanted (Documentary): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn3ooBnShtY
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02:47 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=Mn3ooBnShtY
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02:47 XRevan86; "One nation, one president, one victory Politicians and propagandists turn Dugina's memorial service into a pro-war rally"
02:47 TR Bot; ( status 502 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=Mn3ooBnShtY )
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02:48 XRevan86; "Missing anti-Kadyrov Telegram chat moderator killed, Team Against Torture lawyer says"
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; if gulag bans you, you are guilty
02:49 Helenah; I think I got the black lung...
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; what schmidt said
02:49 Helenah; Just kidding but...
02:49 Helenah; I'm doing a lot of coughing like cause I smoke
02:49 XRevan86; "One nation, one president, one victory" <- The new head of LDPR (the party of Zhirinovsky) gets it.
02:49 Helenah; big black phlems are coming up, I need to quit, I seriously need to quit...
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; https://video.danielpocock.com/Eric-Schmidt.mp4
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02:49 Helenah; I've had this before...
02:50 Helenah; I stopped smoking for a bit and they got healthier looking until they were back to healthy.
02:50 Helenah; But yeah my phlem is black currently.
02:50 AdmFubar; yummy
02:50 Helenah; AdmFubar: What is? Black phlem? o.o
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rXHnijzImE0
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02:51 TR Bot; D Smoke Performs Black Habits I Alongside Deontay Wilder at WilderFuryII - Invidious
02:58 TR News; (NEW): EasyOS 32-bit i686 Dunfell-series version 4.3.5 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/EasyOS_32_bit_i686_Dunfell_series_version_4_3_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/EasyOS_32_bit_i686_Dunfell_series_version_4_3_5.gmi
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02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines EasyOS 32-bit i686 Dunfell-series version 4.3.5
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 108.65
03:01 DaemonFC; https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-man-accused-threatening-conservative-convention-rcna44157
03:01 TR Bot; Texas man accused of threatening conservative convention
03:01 schestowitz[TR]; g conservative convention
03:01 schestowitz[TR]; code for coup plot
03:01 schestowitz[TR]; threatening to overthrow the government?
03:02 DaemonFC; The FBI arrested a leftist Latino teenager for threatening mass murder.
03:02 DaemonFC; So, uhhhh.
03:02 DaemonFC; It was their terrorism task force that got him.
03:02 DaemonFC; "Velasquez was arrested in San Antonio and charged with making threatening interstate communications. He was also charged with possession of child pornography for images allegedly found on his phone."
03:03 *DaemonFC laughs
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; FBI to GOP: no, we are not biased
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; "we also entrap brown people"
03:03 DaemonFC; They also found child porn on his phone.
03:03 DaemonFC; Maybe mjg59_ can petititon to remove "LatinoZoomer" from Shitter.
03:04 DaemonFC; From his ShitHub account, of course.
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; they often seem to add some CP on top of it
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; to make sure nobody online would express sympathy
03:04 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 208745 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42277 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 2 weeks 6 days ago
03:04 Helenah; tut tut tut tut
03:04 Helenah; Windows 11 sounds a mess!
03:04 Helenah; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11
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03:04 TR Bot; Windows 11 - Wikipedia
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; it''s Vista 11
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; the service pack of Vists 10
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; to make it seem like something new gets made
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; it's "mojave experiment II"
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; Wikipedia is gamed by Microsoft
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03:05 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 5.7 GB TotalOut: 1.9 GB
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; never look up Microsoft products names in wikipedia
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2008/12/05/waggener-edstrom-wikipedia/
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03:05 TR Bot; Microsoft Agents from Waggener Edstrom Airbrush Wikipedia, Glorify Paymaster | Techrights
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; military-grade propaagnda
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; literally connected to the US military
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; Shaw/WER
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; *E-W
03:06 Helenah; Read it though and you'll see why it's bad... the differences from that and Windows 10...
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; *W-E rather
03:06 Helenah; Windows gets worse by version...
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; it's written by Microsoft
03:06 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; by proxy
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; oe edited
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; like, delete what they don't like
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; only let the flattering things stay
03:06 Helenah; Well if so then they've brought themselves down, shot themselves in the foot, wrote negative shit about themselves.
03:06 DaemonFC; First they came for the Social Justice Warriors, and I said nothing because I was not a Social Justice Warrior. Then they came for the groomers, and I said nothing, because I was not a groomer. Then they came for the left-wing Latino terrorist, and I said nothing because I was not a left-wing Latino terrorist. And then they came for the child pornographers. And I again said nothing, because I wasn't a child pornographer.
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; that's collaboration -- the Microsoft way
03:06 DaemonFC; :P
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03:07 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you know, I went to the gym today
03:07 schestowitz[TR]; first time in 15 months
03:07 Helenah; Like...
03:07 schestowitz[TR]; we're not getting back there
03:08 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is arguing for canceling the people who point out that most of the people who go away for CP are, uhhhh, not conservatives.
03:08 Helenah; The crazy thing is...
03:08 DaemonFC; :)
03:08 schestowitz[TR]; will still work out from home
03:08 schestowitz[TR]; COVID-19 killed it for us
03:08 Helenah; This is a repeat of the Windows 98 situation
03:08 schestowitz[TR]; WIndows ME
03:08 Helenah; Which caused landfill to be full of i486 machines overnight!
03:08 Helenah; They're doing it again...
03:08 schestowitz[TR]; with TPM
03:08 Helenah; Which means more waste...
03:08 schestowitz[TR]; they won't pull this off
03:09 Helenah; And CPU gen too
03:09 DaemonFC; Why would you toss a 486 in the landfill? It should run Windows 98 just fine after removing the Antitrust bullshit and turning it back into a glorified Windows 95.
03:09 Helenah; I'm not happy about this.
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/12-months-later-vista-11-still-mia-very-small-share-and-in-some-places-vista-7-has-higher-share-than-vista-10/
03:09 TR Bot; 12 Months Later Vista 11 Still MIA (Very Small Share) and in Some Places Vista 7 Has Higher Share Than Vista 10! | Techrights
03:09 Helenah; DaemonFC: Because people want more.
03:09 Helenah; All the time they want more
03:09 Helenah; And Microsoft know this
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; no
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; they buy a new PC
03:09 Helenah; So what happens is you obsolete hardware overnight
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; the old one broke
03:10 schestowitz[TR]; and new ones will force them to get an OS they do not want
03:10 Helenah; and people will bow down to you and buy a new PC
03:10 schestowitz[TR]; that's not free market
03:10 schestowitz[TR]; it's a cartel
03:10 Helenah; And so landfill gets filled with a generation of PCs
03:10 Helenah; And I'm not happy about that...
03:10 DaemonFC; https://nitter.it/QuarantinedCoof/status/1560642098667261957#m
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03:10 TR Bot; (@QuarantinedCoof): "I'm noticing a pattern. Baked Alaska - Jan 6th, assault, vandalism Ethan Ralph - Revenge porn Big Tech - Domestic violence, Child abuse Latino Zoomer - Terroristic threats, Child pornography"|nitter.it
03:10 Helenah; Plus I never liked how Windows nannied the user.
03:11 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-9/
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03:11 TR Bot; My Year as a Digital Vegan Part IX Hard Reckonings: The Nine Circles of E-Waste | Techrights
03:11 Helenah; GNU/Linux <3
03:11 Helenah; I got a teddy collection
03:11 Helenah; I've yet to add a tux to it! :(
03:12 Helenah; A good old plain tux, no fancy bells and whistles like a red hat on its head.
03:12 schestowitz[TR]; maybe gnu
03:12 schestowitz[TR]; https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gift
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03:12 Helenah; Yeah :D
03:12 TR Bot; Gift - Free Software Directory
03:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://shop.fsf.org/
03:13 TR Bot; FSF Shop
03:13 Helenah; You remember back when Mandriva was called Mandrake? They had a store and on that store they were selling these HUGE and I'm not kidding, they were the best tux on the market, tux penguin teddies! :D
03:13 schestowitz[TR]; $35.00 for a tshirt
03:14 DaemonFC; I don't know what these people are so angry about.
03:14 Helenah; And they were a popular buyers choice.
03:14 schestowitz[TR]; that probaby costs 2 dollars at most to make in Bangladesh
03:14 schestowitz[TR]; made by workers who are paid under $2 for a whole day
03:14 DaemonFC; A lot of them have more money than me, they're half my age with their entire life ahead of them, they look better than I do.
03:14 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Agreed
03:14 DaemonFC; What's there to be mad about?
03:14 Helenah; But people will try and justify it
03:15 Helenah; They'll try and justify the markup on the t-shirt price.
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; https://shop.fsf.org/gear/stuffed-baby-gnu
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03:15 TR Bot; Stuffed Baby Gnu | FSF Shop
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; 25 dollars
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; let's compare to ebaty
03:15 DaemonFC; The nutty thing about being pissed off is telling people you're about to kill people.
03:16 DaemonFC; I mean, do you want to be arrested for doing it or for talking about it?
03:16 DaemonFC; Then again, half the time the cops are so fucking retarded that they miss people like Robert Crimo and issue them gun permits after they know what they are.
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155027356018
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03:17 TR Bot; PAPO Wild Animal Kingdom Gnu Toy Figure 3465000501013 | eBay
03:17 DaemonFC; You notice how they just let things like this happen and then they happen to have a 1,400 page gun bill ready to pass in the middle of the night? And even if it doesn't pass, that's fine because the State Police will use it as an excuse for gun confiscation anyway?
03:18 DaemonFC; You don't write bills this long in the 1-2 days after a mass shooting. You write them and then you let something happen so you can pass them.
03:18 DaemonFC; That's how they did the PATRIOT ACT.
03:18 schestowitz[TR]; rapberry pi 4 on sale... ripoffs now
03:18 schestowitz[TR]; due tto shortages
03:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195306794107
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03:18 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Model B With 8GB Ram | eBay
03:18 schestowitz[TR]; more than twice original RRP
03:19 DaemonFC; The State of Illinois wanted the Highland Park Shooting to happen. Why else would they have issued a FOID card to a guy they'd already removed weapons from twice and taken to be "observed" after suicidal threats, who was kicked out of high school for having a "kill book" complete with drawing pictures of himself killing his classmates.
03:19 DaemonFC; Makes no sense at all.
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144662441640
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03:19 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - 4GB Ram - Brand New In sealed Box | eBay
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; 96 pounds
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; used to be 45 or 25 IIRC
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; or 35
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; same thing, 3 years later... 3 times the price
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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03:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The air conditioner is drawing in the neighbor's nasty cigarettes.
03:20 DaemonFC; Ick.
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295180439681 < USED ones still for MORE than the NEW thing
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03:20 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB RAM FULLY WORKING With Argon One Case | eBay
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; so you sell your used pi for more than you got it for!
03:20 Helenah; Did I show my nails? :3 https://i.imgur.com/6qxQIhd.jpg
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03:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225130574560 77 pounds for USED one
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03:20 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB RAM Single Board Computer with case and fan | eBay
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; roy's nails https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Spijkers_%28Nails%29.jpg/220px-Spijkers_%28Nails%29.jpg
03:22 ender2070_16bit; i wouldn't mind owning a raspi 4
03:22 ender2070_16bit; but im thinking rock64 might be a better option
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; they became expensive
03:23 ender2070_16bit; :(
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; like half the price of a decent laptop
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; and a laptop has keyboard, screen, more
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; webcam, mic..
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; fans!
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; battery!!
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; so it works without power (outages)
03:24 starstreak; https://www.pine64.org/devices/single-board-computers/rock64/
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03:24 TR Bot; ROCK64 | PINE64
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; rianne managed to get a raspi400 before the price soared completely
03:24 ender2070_16bit; nice
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; now 104, just for the base unit https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334285996791?epid=6042469748
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03:24 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 400 Computer Kit UK Keyboard Layout 633696492981 | eBay
03:25 ender2070_16bit; a raspi400 is nice but I'd want to use my own keyboard
03:25 ender2070_16bit; i have a nice clicky mechanical one
03:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mostly I like the VPN and HTTPS-only Mode and not using GULAG directly for anything because I don't want it to be logged with GULAG when I become interested in something.
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; even used ones now cost more than what she paid https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115500193543?
=> ↺ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115500193543?
03:25 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 400 (microSD, Broadcom BCM2711, 1.80 GHz, 4GB, US layout) Keyboard | eBay
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; she paid in february
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; just before putler diddled with his ...
03:25 ender2070_16bit; lol
03:25 DaemonFC; I mean, if you're interested in something that's not illegal but it could be used to embarrass you or justify additional surveillance you don't know about....
03:26 DaemonFC; Why would you want GULAG to know about it?
03:26 DaemonFC; The government doesn't necessarily need to have anything damning on you to start watching you more.
03:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://video.danielpocock.com/Eric-Schmidt.mp4
=> ↺ https://video.danielpocock.com/Eric-Schmidt.mp4
03:26 schestowitz[TR]; mind controls
03:27 DaemonFC; And it can make bad things happen that seem totally random.
03:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Like, you end up on their shitlist and your license plate goes by a cop car.
03:27 DaemonFC; You start getting tickets every time you're out.
03:27 DaemonFC; Coincidence?
03:27 schestowitz[TR]; the tickets are love letters
03:28 ender2070_16bit; eric schmidt is a piece of work
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03:28 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aNFbYEKm3qg
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03:28 TR Bot; Latino Zoomer Reading my awesome Quote - Invidious
03:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Does this guy not seem weird?
03:29 DaemonFC; I think this must have been a few years before they busted him last week.
03:29 DaemonFC; They said he turned 19 on the day they arrested him (Friday).
03:29 phanes; https://youtu.be/uXzhx1gQY8A
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03:29 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=uXzhx1gQY8A
=> ↺ https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=uXzhx1gQY8A
03:29 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Top 5 Best Dash Cam for Police Encounter & Stops in 2022 (Buying Guide & Review) - Invidious
03:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Emphasis on 23 seconds into the video.
03:31 DaemonFC; "laughs creepily Nice private parts I can play with!" then near the end "Respectful of minorities and a Christian."
03:31 DaemonFC; "threatened SAS tampa and got arrested and they found cheese pizza on his phone"
03:32 DaemonFC; So that's how people are getting by GULAG Tube's censor bot now.
03:32 DaemonFC; CP - Cheese Pizza
03:33 ender2070_16bit; oh yay my eyes are fucked
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; ""Um, no, a box of frozen pizza rolls is not $22
03:34 *ender2070_16bit gets glasses
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5bax7/bill-gates-is-adorably-terrible-at-guessing-the-cost-of-everyday-groceries
03:34 TR Bot; Bill Gates Is Adorably Terrible at Guessing the Cost of Everyday Groceries
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; Bill is like all of us :-)
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; MSM
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; funded by Bill
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; "Adorably Terrible"
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; adorable!!
03:34 DaemonFC; Yes, Bill Gates is adorable
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; adorable thieves
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; adorable
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bills-friendship-with-epstein-helped-drive-us-to-divorce-says-melinda-gates-7dxqptp96
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; adorable
03:35 TR Bot; Bills friendship with Epstein helped drive us to divorce, says Melinda Gates | News | The Times
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
=> ↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
03:35 TR Bot; Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; adorable
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/
03:35 TR Bot; Sheela Microsoft (Zemlin) Does Not Like Linux and Jim Zemlin Idolises Bill Gates | Techrights
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; adorable
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; what jim zemlin called his daughter
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; "adorable"
03:35 ender2070_16bit; bill gates is going to give all his money away to charity and thats because the divorce will end up costing him 50%
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; in TED talk
03:36 ender2070_16bit; if he spends it before the divorce goes to court he wont have any money to give her
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI
=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI
03:36 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI
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03:36 TR Bot; not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI )
=> ↺ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; if you search gulag for anything "bill gates" they will tell you alll abot "conspiracy theories"
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; amplifying the nonsense
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; to distract from legit criticism
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; gulag is an oligarch's buddy
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; unless you are RUSSIAN oligarhs
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; does sergei brin count as russian oligarchs?
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; he is richa dn born in moscow
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; "search engines" became just filters
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they used to strive to be actual search sites
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; now it's another layer of social control
03:38 ender2070_16bit; apparently chrome won't support ad blockers after january
03:38 ender2070_16bit; i wonder if brave will be effected
03:40 ender2070_16bit; it has its own ad blocker but i use ublock origin
03:40 schestowitz[TR]; www needs to die already
03:40 schestowitz[TR]; it's drm
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's forcing you to submit to CA cartel
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's bloated
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's a noise machine
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; we need alternatives to be adopted
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; gnunet is also interesting
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; but not stable yet
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; they did to tim b-l what they do to linus
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; w3c became like lf
03:42 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium
=> http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium
03:42 TR Bot; World Wide Web Consortium - Techrights
03:42 schestowitz[TR]; also moz http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla
=> http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla
03:42 TR Bot; Mozilla - Techrights
03:43 TR News; (NEW): Robustel industrial IoT gateways run Debian-based OS, offer 5G, 4G LTE, LoRaWAN connectivity https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Robustel_industrial_IoT_gateways_run_Debian_based_OS_offer_5G_4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Robustel_industrial_IoT_gateways_run_Debian_based_OS_offer_5G_4.gmi
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Robustel_industrial_IoT_gateways_run_Debian_based_OS_offer_5G_4.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Robustel_industrial_IoT_gateways_run_Debian_based_OS_offer_5G_4.gmi
03:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Robustel industrial IoT gateways run Debian-based OS, offer 5G, 4G LTE, LoRaWAN connectivity
03:45 DaemonFC; "I want to mention that while DT_HASH is very good at finding existing symbols, it performs badly with the missing ones. As you could see in the example with searching for "foobar", you need to walk through a random chain and compare strings only to bump into the STN_UNDEF. This becomes even worse in real life because symbols are searched in multiple shared libraries, so you'll have to walk multiple random chains."
03:46 DaemonFC; Brought to you by Fraunhofer? :P
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03:47 DaemonFC; They made MP3. A codec so advanced it didn't have any concept of seek tables.
03:48 DaemonFC; DAAAAAALEKS HAVE NO CONCEEEEEEPT OF ELEGAAAAAAAANCE!
03:49 DaemonFC; Apple's MP3 decoder still has only crude seeking support.
03:49 DaemonFC; It assumes all frames are the same size as the first one in the file.
03:50 DaemonFC; Which works out well when it's VBR and you'll be correct no more than about 15-20% of the time.
03:50 *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights
03:50 TR News; (NEW): Firefox 105 Beta Brings Memory Fixes, Two-Finger Swipe Back/Forward Gesture on Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Firefox_105_Beta_Brings_Memory_Fixes_Two_Finger_Swipe_Gesture.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Firefox_105_Beta_Brings_Memory_Fixes_Two_Finger_Swipe_Gesture.gmi
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=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Firefox_105_Beta_Brings_Memory_Fixes_Two_Finger_Swipe_Gesture.gmi
03:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Firefox 105 Beta Brings Memory Fixes, Two-Finger Swipe Back/Forward Gesture on Linux
03:50 DaemonFC; The end result being the user clicks on the progress bar and ends up at a completely unexpected point in the file.
03:51 TR News; It hasn't even been 3 years since COVID-19 and at the gym (where I was for 20 years) they've already sacked/pushed out 3 administrators. It's insane.
03:51 DaemonFC; Every competently designed decoder walks the entire file in the background and builds a seek table that works. You can accomplish this in <1 second on almost any computer.
03:52 DaemonFC; It's not how the specification should have been designed, but there are ways to deal with it. Apparently a "trillion dollar company" can't do that.
03:53 TR News; 2 days ago: "In the long run, when this is all over I think we will see a much larger percentage of Linux and Ope Source use, at least in Russia. Which too is unlikely to hurt the mentioned corporate players." http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36793/
=> ↺ http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36793/
03:53 TR Bot; What part of open source do they not understand?: Red Hat moves out of Russia
03:53 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> it's forcing you to submit to CA cartel
03:53 DaemonFC; Let's Encrypt is a band-aid that's designed as an attack on CACert.
03:53 TR News; "I've just moved to Manjaro after an 11 hour upgrade of Linux Mint Cinnamon (20.3 to 21.0) left me with a broken desktop. For me it's a return to KDE, and I'm loving it." http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36801/
=> ↺ http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36801/
03:53 TR Bot; I'm running Garuda on my laptop.: Garuda Linux: All-Rounder Distro Based on Arch Linux
03:53 DaemonFC; mjg59_ probably knows that even if he'd never say so.
03:55 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/300212903_519247640009382_3964893351813664494_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=aflEX6v1fJoAX_L6Bnk&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT_6gTv_ZQZd2bg_RtZaZ-Ai8L206PQE7dMXF0yLPlQECA&oe=630BA9A3
03:55 ender2070_16bit; garuda linux eh, i use arch btw
03:58 DaemonFC; Liberals: Elon Musk is going to save the planet with the Teslas!
03:58 DaemonFC; https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/elon-musk-planes-9-minute-35-mile-flight-sparks-outrage/
=> ↺ https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/elon-musk-planes-9-minute-35-mile-flight-sparks-outrage/
03:58 TR Bot; Elon Musk plane's 9-minute, 35-mile flight sparks outrage
03:58 starstreak; https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/
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03:58 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/ )
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03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.03
03:59 DaemonFC; https://nypost.com/2022/08/24/bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-is-just-joe-sticking-it-to-the-little-guy-again/
03:59 TR Bot; Biden's student loan 'forgiveness' is just Joe sticking it to the little guy -- again
04:00 *ender2070_16bit slaps techrights-ipfs-bot around a bit with a large trout
04:00 DaemonFC; "The reality is that its not the government forgiving debt but the US taxpayer being forced to cover it. And estimates show canceling $10,000 per borrower earning less than $125,000 will cost the country a whopping $300 billion and each US taxpayer around $2,000."
04:00 DaemonFC; I hope someone sues to block this.
04:01 DaemonFC; Since it costs every taxpayer money, every person who pays taxes in America is harmed and has standing to sue.
04:01 DaemonFC; There's also no provision in any law that gives Biden the authority to do this.
04:02 DaemonFC; The only law on student loan forgiveness is for people who attended a college that was taken to court by the DoJ for defrauding its students.
04:02 DaemonFC; Being an idiot and signing a loan document does not make the loan a "fraud".
04:03 DaemonFC; "The universities themselves, meanwhile, must be thrilled by Bidens plan. Loan forgiveness functions the same way federal aid does: It essentially greenlights colleges and universities to continue to hike prices, knowing the federal government has no qualms about covering tuition costs in the immediate future. No wonder student debt is expected to climb back to its current levels within the next four years. Indeed, as basic economics teache
04:03 DaemonFC; s us, adding a lane to the highway does not reduce traffic it increases demand and often makes traffic worse."
04:03 DaemonFC; Yes, more people will take on loan debt expecting to demand "forgiveness" again later.
04:04 DaemonFC; But I wouldn't bet on that. Biden's days in office are numbered.
04:04 DaemonFC; And he's even pissing me off.
04:04 DaemonFC; "Any serious discussion surrounding student debt would ask the fundamental question of how best to reduce tuition price tags, as ours dwarf those of peer nations. But this isnt a serious discussion. It is a bribe to Bidens base in anticipation of the midterm elections, and the US taxpayers are the ones footing the bill."
04:05 DaemonFC; It's a bad idea.
04:05 DaemonFC; People who didn't get to go or worked very hard to pay theirs off won't be happy about it.
04:07 TR News; Yesterday's Official Numbers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/25/covid-summers/
=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/25/covid-summers/
04:07 TR Bot; Blog Archive Tale of Three Summers of COVID-19 in the UK, as Told by Yesterdays Official Numbers
04:07 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/22/illinois-residents-who-used-snapchat-eligible-for-payout-from-35-million-settlement/
04:07 TR Bot; Illinois residents who used Snapchat eligible for payout from $35 million settlement
04:07 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, August 24, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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04:07 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Snapchat (Facebook) and BIPA, again.
04:08 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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04:08 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:08 DaemonFC; This brings their total losses to like $600 million under the BIPA.
04:08 Helenah; Garlic bread
04:08 ender2070_16bit; yum
04:08 Helenah; :3
04:09 Helenah; So erm... did anyone see my pretty nails? :3 https://i.imgur.com/6qxQIhd.jpg
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04:10 Helenah; I painted them blue
04:10 Helenah; but the truth is I painted them red
04:10 ender2070_16bit; yeah they look nice
04:10 ender2070_16bit; i'd add a coat of clear glitter myself
04:10 Helenah; Ooooo
04:11 Helenah; I've done that many times, I should do that at some point again. :D
04:12 schestowitz[TR]; Garlic bread is good
04:12 schestowitz[TR]; usually a bit expensive
04:12 ender2070_16bit; you can make your own
04:12 schestowitz[TR]; lots fo work
04:12 schestowitz[TR]; and not the same quality
04:12 schestowitz[TR]; naan is also good, btu expensive
04:12 schestowitz[TR]; some ingredients are hard to get
04:12 ender2070_16bit; i love garlic naan
04:12 schestowitz[TR]; and the process
04:13 Helenah; Yeah I make my own and it tastes a whole lot better! :3
04:13 schestowitz[TR]; they sell them as singles and doubles here
04:13 schestowitz[TR]; and it's like one pound
04:13 schestowitz[TR]; you can get a whole loaf of bread for less
04:13 schestowitz[TR]; now with ovens costing more to oeprate
04:14 ender2070_16bit; i love eating hamburgers with mini naan rounds
04:14 loner; gladly, i worked off my student loan
04:14 Helenah; For reference guys, 1 GBP = 1.18 USD = 1.18 EUR
04:14 schestowitz[TR]; they should consider rationing energy
04:14 schestowitz[TR]; to avoid blackouts and brownouts
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; loner: harder to do in us than deutschland
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; cost of raising kid 300k
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; average, that is
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; to 18
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; "better off" families maybe 500,000
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; than 300k for "good" college
04:16 Helenah; It's probably good in the end that I don't have a kid.
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; so 3 kids can cost 2.5 million dollars
04:16 loner; schestowitz[TR]: with 100K annual income or something
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; 2 million pounds
04:16 loner; ?
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; those jobs are terriblew
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; they get you to work long hours
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; and then ask you to use their 'free' smart phone
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; so they can pester you any time of the day
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; "BUT WE ARE PAYING YOU!@!"
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; "we own you.."
04:17 loner; how is this different?
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; "100% o f the time=" - IBM managers
04:17 Helenah; IBM
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; I once went to a former IBM office
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; it wa s sclient called first utility
04:17 Helenah; Interesting.
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; before they sold
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; they were losing customers when I was there
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; as I saw it in theior databases
04:18 Helenah; hmm
04:18 DaemonFC; Okay, I have signed up for this Facebook settlement too.
04:18 schestowitz[TR]; and they used a dead zombie building of old relic IBM
04:18 schestowitz[TR]; soon IBM will be an indian company
04:18 DaemonFC; I figure if they had to give me $500 last time, it'll probably be $50-60 out of this one.
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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04:23 DaemonFC; My guess is that GNU is removing DT_HASH mostly to spite the BSDs again.
04:24 DaemonFC; If the BSDs want the Linuxulator to work, they'll need to implement DT_GNU_HASH if they haven't already in their libc.
04:25 TR News; Over 600 million cases of COVID-19 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries in the UK, 203,000 dead.
=> ↺ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
04:25 TR Bot; COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
04:27 TR News; Always amusing to see China claiming that only 5k people died of COVID-19 there (5,226), compared to half a million in India or loads of people who nowadays die in South Korea and Japan (despite it being summer). Serves to show what a lying regime governs China.
04:28 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/23/cops-find-gang-member-in-possession-of-loaded-ak-47-style-rifle-handgun-in-waukegan-prosecutors/
04:28 TR Bot; Cops find gang member in possession of loaded AK-47-style rifle, handgun in Waukegan: prosecutors
04:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Obviously he had a FOID card, you know.
04:29 DaemonFC; ;)
04:29 DaemonFC; The Mask, Jim Carey.....Detective pulls out a rocket launcher from his pocket.
04:29 DaemonFC; "I HAVE A PERMIT FOR THAT!"
04:29 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
04:30 TR News; Your Life is a Recording. Which Someone can Play Back https://yewtu.be/watch?v=m9goxwS0GR0
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=m9goxwS0GR0
04:30 TR Bot; Your Life is a Recording. Which Someone can Play Back. - Invidious
04:30 DaemonFC; "Julius D. Gaines, 34, of North Chicago, was charged with armed habitual criminal, two counts of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, felon in possession of a firearm and possession of a controlled substance.
04:30 DaemonFC; Lake County Assistant States Attorney Lillian Lewis said officers with the Waukegan Police Department observed a vehicle with no tail light and no license plate last Wednesday.
04:30 DaemonFC; A traffic stop was conducted on the vehicle and Gaines was the driver and sole occupant."
04:30 DaemonFC; Mommas don't let your sons grow up to be an armed habitual felon with no license plate.
04:30 DaemonFC; Yes, I remember this song.
04:30 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Sing it with me now!
04:31 DaemonFC; I have a bottle of whiskey with your name on it if you can keep up.
04:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], See what happens?
04:32 TR News; Years after this talk he shoehorned or helped shoehorn DRM into Web browsers and Web site. Tim B-L: MAJOR disappointment. His solution: MOAR JavaScript... controlled by Microsoft proprietary software prison. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OM6XIICm_qo
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OM6XIICm_qo
04:32 TR Bot; Tim Berners-Lee: The next Web of open, linked data - Invidious
04:32 DaemonFC; Remember when I said, if you're going to commit a felony, don't commit misdemeanors and infractions?
04:32 DaemonFC; If he had a plate and a working tail light, they wouldn't have noticed him.
04:33 DaemonFC; "Lewis said that Gaines was not cooperative with officers and called a woman over to get things from him.
04:34 DaemonFC; Mistake #2: If you get pulled over anyway, be respectful.
04:34 DaemonFC; "While officers were speaking with Gaines, he handed the woman some of his belongings, which included a small bag. "Gaines was arrested and officers found a white powder substance in the bag, which was determined to be 2.1 grams of crack cocaine."
04:34 DaemonFC; Man, that's a lot of crack cocaine. That's like.....Hunter Biden quantities.
04:35 TR News; The Web wasn't even innovative. It was done similarly 3 decades earlier. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sz77x05rySc
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sz77x05rySc
04:35 TR Bot; Ian Ritchie: The day I turned down Tim Berners-Lee - Invidious
04:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Do you have a crack "epidemic" in the UK?
04:35 DaemonFC; Guessing no.
04:35 DaemonFC; They use the word "epidemic" like crack is a disease.
04:36 DaemonFC; "Hey, what happened to Steve?" Oh, it was The Crack. It kills you know. It's a really bad epidemic. Bill Gates has them working on a Crack Vaccine.
04:37 DaemonFC; I'm so glad I have the opportunity to live in America.
04:37 DaemonFC; Greatest country on Earth.
04:38 DaemonFC; And in the best state, no less. Felonois
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; yes drugs get compared tom viruses
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; even if they are just chemicals
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; the words get twisted a lot
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; they also call crimes that
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; like crime is biology
04:40 DaemonFC; Yeah, "crime wave".
04:40 DaemonFC; "crime epidemic"
04:40 DaemonFC; Well, let's ask our resident biologist mjg59_
04:40 DaemonFC; :)
04:41 DaemonFC; If he's not too busy pulling a MARISOL. Believing oneself to be all powerful is not a good sign.
04:41 DaemonFC; I see a lot of the same sort of behavior going on with him.
04:41 DaemonFC; He thinks threatening to leave his blog will get them to cancel Clownflare, which he's only mad about because they host Kiwi Farms, which is worse than the Taliban I'll have you know.
04:42 TR News; xkcd: Tetherball Configurations https://xkcd.com/2663/
04:42 TR Bot; Tetherball Configurations
04:43 DaemonFC; Kiwi Farms may or may not have been a contributing factor in the suicide of 2 or 3 entire people (1 may not exist and is known only due to a pseudonym) (the other two were definitely crazy to begin with, hell, one self-immolated).
04:43 DaemonFC; Even if that's true, which it's debateable, but even if true, the Taliban are definitely nowhere near as bad as the Kiwi Farms.
04:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I doubt we'll ever know how many people Chris Hansen drove to suicide for the entertainment and laughter of Americans.
04:44 DaemonFC; My guess is....more than Kiwi Farms.
04:46 DaemonFC; My guess is mjg59_ doesn't post on Shitter about Cloudflare and the Taliban.
04:46 DaemonFC; He doesn't want to insult Muslims.
04:47 DaemonFC; Or call attention to FGM or you know, women being kept illiterate and out of society.
04:47 ender2070_16bit; i think everyone should try LSD at least once in their life
04:47 ender2070_16bit; its such an experience
04:47 DaemonFC; And hmm, what would they do with trans people?
04:47 DaemonFC; Probably worse than calling one of them Keith.
04:47 DaemonFC; But what do I know?
04:47 ender2070_16bit; and watch a few movies on it: 2001 - A Space Oddessy, Tron, Star Trek 1, Dune 1980s
04:48 DaemonFC; Those were all terrible movies!
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; I didn't like them either
04:49 DaemonFC; Probably the best out of the three was Dune (1984) and that had me going "DO I REALLY NEED EXPOSITION VIA EVERY THOUGHT IN THIS CHARACTER'S HEAD!?".
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; there are much betetr films
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; like the second Back to the Future
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; take my word for it: 20 years from now nobody will give a crap about movied made in 2010-2022
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; *movies
04:50 DaemonFC; Wasn't that the one where Future Biff stole the sports almanac?
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; it is a dark age and the death of the industry
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; it just doesn't "accept" its death yet
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; by a thousand cuts
04:50 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> it is a dark age and the death of the industry
04:51 ender2070_16bit; they're good movies for being on LSD
04:51 DaemonFC; Oh Roy, you know that Emoji Movie was up there with Lawrence of Arabia in 4K.
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it's where they have hoverboards
04:51 ender2070_16bit; you don't like Tron?
04:51 ender2070_16bit; I absolutely love both Tron movies
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; the third one was awful
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, it was also the last
04:51 ender2070_16bit; there is a third?
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; the first was not so bad, but he travels backwards
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; and meets his parents
04:51 DaemonFC; I thought the third one was better.
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; the second was about what thye future would be like
04:52 DaemonFC; Yeah, the third one is a Western, because he gets stuck in the 1800s.
04:52 schestowitz[TR]; yes, awful
04:52 ender2070_16bit; oh you're talking about back to the future, all three were great. my favourite was #2
04:52 schestowitz[TR]; all that fox is remembered for is this franchsise and his parkinsons
04:53 DaemonFC; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/back_to_the_future_3
=> ↺ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/back_to_the_future_3
04:53 ender2070_16bit; spin city was awesome
04:53 TR Bot; Back to the Future Part III - Rotten Tomatoes
04:53 DaemonFC; 80% on the Tomato Meter.
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; lloyd weber is dead
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; but he was also known for frankenstein iirc
04:53 DaemonFC; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/back_to_the_future_2
=> ↺ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/back_to_the_future_2
04:53 TR Bot; Back to the Future Part II - Rotten Tomatoes
04:53 DaemonFC; 63%
04:53 DaemonFC; Seems the critic consensus is the third part was better.
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; www = dumb young people
04:53 DaemonFC; They're not always right.
04:53 ender2070_16bit; Freddy Got Fingered is such a classic, Tom Green is a genius
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; the mvoie predates this
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; probably a bunch of whiners clicking down on a man with hovrboard
04:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The reviews on Rotten Tomatoes can go back into the 90s.
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; while clicking on their "Smart" phones
04:54 DaemonFC; Roger Ebert is one of the critics on some of them.
04:55 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.gmi
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04:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
04:55 DaemonFC; I guess I don't get Italian humor. I was mislead into watching a movie called "Short Skin" assured that it would be as funny as "American Pie".
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; which one?
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; the first?
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; the latter was shit
04:56 DaemonFC; And it turns out to be about a 14 year old Italian teenager who has painfully tight foreskin and there's an entire scene of him fucking a dead octopus he got from the store in the bathroom sink.
04:56 DaemonFC; (No it's not CP. The actor was like 19 when he did that scene!)
04:56 DaemonFC; I'm surprised the DVD was at the library in Fort Wayne though.
04:57 loner; watched Casino (1995) recently
04:57 DaemonFC; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/short_skin
=> ↺ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/short_skin
04:57 TR Bot; Short Skin - Rotten Tomatoes
04:58 loner; italian humor
04:59 TR News; Security Advisory 2022-02 for PowerDNS Recursor up to and including 4.5.9, 4.6.2, 4.7.1 https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/08/23/security-advisory-2022-02-for-powerdns-recursor-up-to-and-including-4-5-9-4-6-2-4-7-1/
04:59 TR Bot; Security Advisory 2022-02 for PowerDNS Recursor up to and including 4.5.9, 4.6.2, 4.7.1 | PowerDNS Blog
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.10
05:00 DaemonFC; My dad had that problem though.
05:00 DaemonFC; He had to get circumcised when he was 12 to deal with it.
05:01 loner; this is something, the world has to know
05:01 loner; your dad was circumcised
05:01 TR News; The Windows rival to the GNU/Linux-based Steam Decks seems like a sad joke https://xeiaso.net/blog/anbernic-win600-review
=> ↺ https://xeiaso.net/blog/anbernic-win600-review
05:02 TR Bot; Anbernic Win600 Review - Xe
05:02 loner; you know, i got trouble, digesting cheese and milk products
05:02 DaemonFC; Well almost everyone here is.
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; lactose?
05:02 DaemonFC; If you're not, it usually means your parents were poor.
05:03 loner; one of the best moments in the movie Casino (1995): "The bosses shit onto supreme court and all this crap." that's italian humor
05:03 ender2070_16bit; cheese is just a loaf of milk
05:03 loner; and the "happy ending" too was, exceptional italian humor i would say
05:03 *ender2070_16bit slaps loner around a bit with a large trout
05:03 DaemonFC; Just based on my own observation, I'd say about 2-3% of American men are uncircumcised if that, and all of them I've known were really poor growing up.
05:04 DaemonFC; Oddly, the poorest one was circumcised though.
05:04 DaemonFC; But it's almost without a doubt if you're in the US and uncircumcised, you're either poor, a racial minority, or both.
05:05 DaemonFC; But the practice seems to have caught on in the Hispanic/Latino population here.
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; <ender2070_16bit> cheese is just a loaf of milk
05:05 DaemonFC; It seems to be something of a class indicator, although I've never found many studies on the issue.
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; eggs are abortions
05:06 DaemonFC; The US CDC does post racial statistics with STDs and abortions.
05:06 ender2070_16bit; if you got two pillows, one of your pillows is using the other as a pillow
05:06 DaemonFC; Their statistics say you're about 9 times as likely to encounter an STD from a black sex partner.
05:06 DaemonFC; Of course, they never expand and speculate on why that is.
05:06 TR News; LOL!! Buzzwords as "shifts". Who pays for this fake hype? Fakebook? https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/metaverse-matthew-ball-book-interview
=> ↺ https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/metaverse-matthew-ball-book-interview
05:06 TR Bot; metaverse, as explained by Matthew Ball - Protocol
05:07 loner; anyway, the movie Casino is worth watching, if you got the sense of italian humor
05:07 DaemonFC; Bill Gates did the botched circumcision experiment in Africa.
05:07 DaemonFC; But nobody has ever suggested that circumcision plays into how likely you are to get Syphilis.
05:07 DaemonFC; And that risk is 5 times higher.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; humans: we correct nature
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; and evolution, too
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; "plastic" "surgery"
05:08 DaemonFC; Either way, I doubt circumcision could possibly explain a 500% higher Syphilis rate or a 13x higher HIV rate.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; I always called that "butchering"
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; and some people adopted this term they heard from me
05:08 DaemonFC; *circumcision status
05:09 DaemonFC; I've heard all sorts of "possible" explanations.
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; humans also cut tails of animals
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; and declaw cats
05:09 DaemonFC; Including black men having sex with each other thinking it's not gay if you don't wear a condom.
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; like they "remove" seeds from fruit and veg
05:10 DaemonFC; Or if you leave your socks on.
05:10 DaemonFC; But that was something John told me. So take that for what it is.
05:10 loner; "it's not gay if you don't wear a condom"
05:10 loner; DaemonFC: ???
05:11 DaemonFC; That's what John told me black men think. I don't know. I don't know where he got that.
05:11 schestowitz[TR]; off-topci nonsense
05:11 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, back to tech
05:11 DaemonFC; I wonder what Uncle Bill will do to them next time.
05:12 DaemonFC; First it was "AIDSVAX" in Thailand (male prostitutes).
05:12 DaemonFC; Then when the vaccine didn't work very well, they just dumped them all and didn't give them any follow-up.
05:12 DaemonFC; Failed experiment. Cut losses. Pull up the tent!
05:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
05:13 DaemonFC; This is how Creepy Uncle Bill does business.
05:14 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDSVAX
=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDSVAX
05:14 TR Bot; AIDSVAX - Wikipedia
05:14 DaemonFC; 31.4% efficacy
05:14 DaemonFC; Probably better than the COVID "vaccines".
05:14 DaemonFC; Nobody really wants an AIDS vaccine.
05:14 DaemonFC; Why wipe it out when you can rob people forever?
05:15 TR News; Social control media is not dead. But is is dying.
05:15 DaemonFC; Dying 4-5 years later if they stop taking your pills is such a motivator to figure out where the $4,000 a month pills will come from.
05:15 DaemonFC; Wouldn't you agree schestowitz[TR]?
05:16 DaemonFC; There will never be an AIDS vaccine because the pills are such a money grab./
05:16 TR News; IRC is keeping steady in terms of usage for a number of years already https://netsplit.de/
05:16 TR Bot; NO TITLE
05:16 DaemonFC; It's so obvious.
05:16 DaemonFC; Peter Staley is "activist" turned pharmaceutical company advertiser.
05:17 DaemonFC; He amuses himself by having people write absolutely lurid "articles" on poz dot com.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; wow, phoronix really cannot find stories
05:17 DaemonFC; But most of it is paid spam for new drugs.
05:17 ender2070_16bit; i love irc
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; covering some random mailing lists posts and commits
05:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Yeah, nobody needed Phoronix 20 years ago.
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; there is almost no source of kernel news anymore
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; kernelTrap was OK
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; died ages ago
05:18 DaemonFC; If there was a new program released, they just gave you the elevator pitch in the release notes.
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; covering kernel new is hard anda lot of work
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; *news
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; you are able to get paid a lot by just writing a kernel driveer
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; for any company
05:19 schestowitz[TR]; then cover the development of linux
05:19 schestowitz[TR]; 'linux' foundation killed linux.com
05:19 schestowitz[TR]; test http://archive.org/
05:19 TR Bot; connect to archive.org:80; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ http://archive.org/ )
05:20 schestowitz[TR]; not just me ten
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:20 schestowitz[TR]; offline?
05:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/web.archive.org?proto=https
=> ↺ https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/web.archive.org?proto=https
05:20 TR Bot; Web.archive.org down? Current problems and status.
05:21 DaemonFC; Well, for most people, Linux (the kernel) didn't change much for a few years at a time until 2.6 came out.
05:21 DaemonFC; Then it changed quite a lot, quite often.
05:21 schestowitz[TR]; "" After freenode's network type was changed to "historical" several months ago, I noticed today, that the crawler can connect freenode again. Therefore freenode's network type was changed back to "competitor" again. Welcome back!
05:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/news.php
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05:21 TR Bot; NO TITLE
05:22 ender2070_16bit; seems to be down for me too
05:27 ender2070_16bit; I'm watching Escape from New York
05:39 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-08-20-adding-aggregators.gmi
=> ↺ https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-08-20-adding-aggregators.gmi
05:39 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
05:40 *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving)
05:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Is there some way to easily port the NewsWaffle to the Web?
05:41 DaemonFC; I think more people would end up using it that way.
05:41 DaemonFC; Web browsers tend to have better font rendering than Gemini clients.
05:42 DaemonFC; Stripping away the crap and converting it back from GemText to HTML seems to remove all the bloat and nonsense just fine.
05:42 DaemonFC; But it would be more efficient to just make the NewsWaffle a Web resource for Web users.
05:43 DaemonFC; I never was a big fan of Style Sheets.
05:43 DaemonFC; They're not as big of a problem as JavaScript, but they are a nuisance.
05:43 DaemonFC; Ideally, you'd just have the text and some "optimized" JPEGs if those are important, but have the user click on them if they want to download and see that one.
05:44 DaemonFC; By optimized, I mean stripping the EXIF tags and optimizing the Huffman Coding. Which you can do without further decay to any existing JPEG.
05:44 DaemonFC; And most sites do that, ironically, to lower bandwidth costs, even as they are quite bloated otherwise.
05:45 schestowitz[TR]; you don'ty need newswaffle for the web
05:45 DaemonFC; Worrying about reducing JPEG size by 7% is a little odd when you're mostly loading stock images, huge style sheets, and several MB of JavaScript to display a news article.
05:45 schestowitz[TR]; you can disable css and js usually
05:45 schestowitz[TR]; or use a browser that removes cruft
05:45 DaemonFC; I use the NewsWaffle on the Web via the mozz.us proxy.
05:45 schestowitz[TR]; newswafle handles images well
05:46 schestowitz[TR]; ifd you use a reader with built-in image renderer
05:46 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, we're looking beyond the web already
05:46 schestowitz[TR]; so does tuxmachines
05:46 schestowitz[TR]; the counter says 10k requests over gemini
05:46 schestowitz[TR]; but most are just uptime checkss (monitoring)
05:46 schestowitz[TR]; yesterday we had to kick nginx
05:46 schestowitz[TR]; the gemproxy was failing
05:47 schestowitz[TR]; did not investigate the cause,,m just restarted the daemon
05:49 psydruid; I mostly read techrights over gemini, because it's the fastest and most uncluttered way to do so
05:49 TR News; (NEW): Test of modules https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Test_of_modules.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Test_of_modules.gmi
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05:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Test of modules
05:49 psydruid; https://wccftech.com/stagnant-pc-hardware-inventories-may-cause-retailers-manufacturers-to-lower-prices-offer-huge-discounts/
05:49 TR Bot; Stagnant PC Hardware Inventories May Cause Retailers & Manufacturers To Lower Prices & Offer Huge Discounts
05:50 psydruid; playing into what Helen ah said a few hours ago
05:50 psydruid; I don't think Microsoft is getting away with it this time around
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft= 20,000 layoffs
05:50 schestowitz[TR]; that will be good form popcorn sales
05:51 psydruid; things have changed and used hardware from the past 10 years is still good enough for running most software
05:51 psydruid; yes
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; micerosoft RELIES
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; on preinstalles
05:51 loner; minor correction: all software
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; NOBODFY INSTALLS Windows
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; almost nobody
05:51 schestowitz[TR]; pepople buy PCs
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft works behind cloed doors to mirror Windows across newly-made complete PCs
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; fewer sales = fewer windows licence
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; nbo vista 10 user goes to a store online to "buy" Vista 11
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; and in physical stores I doubt they sell it
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; it would be too many DVDs
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; so they are obsolete
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; with gnu/linux you get a base image
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; usb
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; cd
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; sd
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; and then install what you need over the network
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; once it bootstraps live or on spinning rust or ssd
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; you can outwit them by killing off the OEMs
05:54 schestowitz[TR]; and then people who don't get p;hones but a RealComputer(R) get more choice
05:55 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> did not investigate the cause,,m just restarted the daemon
05:55 DaemonFC; What is this? Wireplumber?
05:55 DaemonFC; :)
05:57 psydruid; Wintel people also make fun of 50-100 SBCs as being not powerful enough to run "modern" software, but the joke is on them
05:57 loner; i could live with a $5 raspi zero 1.3
05:58 psydruid; and I think it's actually them trying to cope with the fact that they have to spend a lot more money to get the same performance out of their Wintel computer
05:58 DaemonFC; Wireplumber is a disaster.
05:58 schestowitz[TR]; techrights-news> With energy prices soaring do you want this liability? https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-gpu-flex-series
=> ↺ https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-gpu-flex-series
05:58 TR Bot; Announces Data Center GPU Flex Series - Phoronix
05:59 DaemonFC; I thought there was something wrong with GNOME Web playing a video and causing Wireplumber to spin the CPU.
05:59 DaemonFC; But Firefox does it sometimes as well,.
05:59 psydruid; so anything that is much cheaper and runs another less bloated operating system must be mocked and ridiculed as being a toy
05:59 schestowitz[TR]; energy will get a lot more expensive soon
05:59 psydruid; it's all just so transparent
05:59 schestowitz[TR]; due to alleged scarcities
06:00 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 112.53
06:00 schestowitz[TR]; the diff between 5 watt processor and 20 watt processor is night and day
06:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Illinois is actually doing okay on that.
06:00 schestowitz[TR]; screens are another matter
06:00 DaemonFC; Good time to be on electric for everything.
06:00 schestowitz[TR]; some electric power is made with gas
06:00 schestowitz[TR]; they use gas in the processes of spinning turbines
06:00 DaemonFC; Illinois doesn't generate much power with gas.
06:01 schestowitz[TR]; we use gas to heat up water
06:01 schestowitz[TR]; many boilers here are gas-based
06:01 schestowitz[TR]; electric showers are common too
06:01 DaemonFC; Yeah, I think the landlord uses gas in the water heater.
06:01 ender2070_16bit; I have a 2013 laptop that runs gnome perfectly fine. Faster than Windows.
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_Test_of_ReadOn.shtml
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06:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines A Test of ReadOn()
06:02 psydruid; what is also an issue for them is that today's 20 processor is going to be tomorrow's 1-5 processor
06:02 DaemonFC; I'm sure he's pissed. The best thing to do would be to invest in an electric model.
06:02 ender2070_16bit; I have a raspi zero w, I'd use BSD on it but BSD doesn't have the wifi driver :(
06:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Better get yourself a sleeping bag.
06:02 DaemonFC; It's gonna be cold in Bogusland this winter.
06:02 psydruid; I don't have any raspi
06:03 ender2070_16bit; I checked OpenBSD, NetBSD and FreeBSD
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: There are other methods
06:03 ender2070_16bit; they don't have drivers for any raspi
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; like, put allt he computers in one room
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; then seal
06:03 psydruid; and probably never will have any
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; double glazing and door
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; and that alone, togetehr with body heat, helps avoid home heaters
06:03 DaemonFC; If they're Intel that should work.
06:03 DaemonFC; :)
06:03 psydruid; because these things aren't actually open hackable devices
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; you just reuse natural combustion and electic heat waste
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; our friends, a couple, may more than twice what we pay for energy
06:04 starstreak; https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/
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06:04 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/ )
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06:04 schestowitz[TR]; and they don't even work from home
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; so go figure
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; not even counting the potrol bills for the car
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; *petrol
06:05 psydruid; I did spend a few months working with a raspi 1, but I didn't really see how it would be better than the more powerful orange pi I already had
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; you can now end up paying 400 pounds a month for "energy"
06:05 psydruid; I know about VisionFive v2
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; or 200 pounds perr person per month
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; food also went up by a lot
06:05 ender2070_16bit; it seems promising
06:05 DaemonFC; http://68k.news/
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; unless you find discounts
06:05 TR Bot; Headlines From the Future
06:05 DaemonFC; This works.
06:06 ender2070_16bit; ooooo 68k.news :D
06:06 ender2070_16bit; i love it
06:06 psydruid; and this is just the first board that is going to be more widely usable
06:07 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Privacy, Massive Wiki, Manjaro, and Linux Mint" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Videos_and_Shows_Privacy_Massive_Wiki_Manjaro_and_Linux_Mint.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Videos_and_Shows_Privacy_Massive_Wiki_Manjaro_and_Linux_Mint.gmi
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06:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Privacy, Massive Wiki, Manjaro, and Linux Mint"
06:07 psydruid; StarFive is working on a more powerful SoC and board to be launched later next year
06:07 loner; i fear such RISC-V offerings will require a most recent kernel version
06:07 loner; and this comes with alot of other trouble
06:07 ender2070_16bit; lol loner
06:08 psydruid; I hope they will be usable with several operating systems
06:08 loner; ender2070_16bit: lol what?
06:08 ender2070_16bit; you're insane
06:08 loner; irelevant, it's facts
06:09 starstreak; [britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -r
06:09 starstreak; 5.19.3-arch1-1
06:09 starstreak; I proudly run the latest kernel!
06:09 psydruid; it's logical for new hardware to be supported in newer kernel versions
06:09 loner; i mean, i already got riscv64-tcc toolchain installed ...
06:09 psydruid; whether that should be Linux is another matter
06:10 loner; kernel/version, which libc, etc?
06:10 loner; would be curious
06:10 DaemonFC; https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/ryanjrusak/article264826494.html
=> ↺ https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/ryanjrusak/article264826494.html
06:10 ender2070_16bit; I would run openbsd or freebsd, but no steam, brave, discord, element
06:11 starstreak; [britney@archbtw ~]$ gcc --version
06:11 starstreak; gcc (GCC) 12.2.0
06:11 DaemonFC; "Lets be clear about whats happening here: Working-class people will be taxed to fund a benefit for people whose degrees already give them a leg up in the economy." ""Also punished by this terrible idea are people who did things the right way. You know: suckers."
06:11 psydruid; I'm not really interested in that debate
06:11 DaemonFC; "If you paid back loans or never incurred them because you sought out cheaper alternatives, your reward is to help people who didnt think twice about borrowing tens of thousands of dollars to get an English degree."
06:12 starstreak; [britney@archbtw ~]$ ldd --version
06:12 starstreak; ldd (GNU libc) 2.36
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06:12 DaemonFC; "Bidens decision to extend the moratorium on payments is indefensible. His administration tries to persuade us that the economic bruises were all carrying arent real. It redefined recession, celebrated gas-price reductions that still leave us paying at least 50% more than when the president took office and manipulated statistics to suggest inflation is zero. On COVID-19, public health officials just announced what most of us have
06:12 DaemonFC; known for more than a year, that we have to learn to live with it. "
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06:12 psydruid; with the exception of element those are closed source applications/services
06:13 loner; i fear, GNU and LLVM will continue to lock out any real free software alternative with RISC-V again
06:13 ender2070_16bit; freebsd has a linux emulator that can run steam but it doesn't work with proton
06:13 psydruid; I have no such fear
06:14 ender2070_16bit; although technically I could use firefox, load element web and discord web
06:14 ender2070_16bit; i don't really play too many games on linux, my xbox can do that instead
06:14 psydruid; linux emulator that works only on x86
06:14 DaemonFC; Well, you can just load Wine and run games that way, right?
06:15 ender2070_16bit; oh not freebsd64?
06:15 DaemonFC; "Come to think of it, though, wed be much better off if we gave young people money to buy a truck and plumbing or lawn equipment than to spend three hours a week learning Jane Austen."
06:15 DaemonFC; :)
06:15 psydruid; I mean freebsd i386 and x86_64, but not aarch64 or riscv64
06:15 ender2070_16bit; i was surprised to see vscode working on freebsd
06:16 psydruid; what linux software would you like to run on the latter?
06:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You said they basically showed Mr. GULAG to the door in Linux development, yes?
06:16 ender2070_16bit; i probably wouldn't bother with steam on riscv64
06:16 loner; this will be the cornerstone, of proof, with RISC-V, if the tcc-toolchain (riscv64-tcc) can fully digest any libc/kernel
06:16 ender2070_16bit; my xbox can handle the gaming
06:17 loner; otherwise, if RISC-V and related software continue to lock out any alternative toolchain, in practice, almost nothing relevant changed then
06:17 psydruid; so as DaemonFC is saying, it may be easier to run games using Wine on FreeBSD x86_64
06:18 ender2070_16bit; i've put daemonfc on ignore due to transphobia
06:18 psydruid; I haven't tried so far, as I don't have any FreeBSD install
06:19 ender2070_16bit; I was talking about freebsd on my current x86_64 laptop
06:19 psydruid; an ISA doesn't lock out software, people/companies and developers in particular do
06:20 loner; psydruid: disagree
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06:20 psydruid; you are free to disagree
06:20 loner; it is both, vendor-specific/ISA assembly extensions, and GNU gas extensions, which very effictively lock-out any alternative toolchain such as tcc
06:20 loner; i haven't got a libc anymore due to this
06:20 psydruid; that's software
06:20 ender2070_16bit; fuck tcc
06:21 psydruid; if the software that you want isn't out there write your own
06:21 DaemonFC; <ender2070_16bit> i've put daemonfc on ignore due to transphobia
06:21 ender2070_16bit; if the hardware that you want isn't out there, build your own
06:21 loner; psydruid: just as said, riscv64-tcc is available already, looking forward to see any kernel/libc pass with it, including assembler
06:22 DaemonFC; This is ridiculous.
06:22 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is spewing hatred against an Asian man, openly.
06:22 loner; psydruid: i am not the vendor of RISC-V
06:22 DaemonFC; Just to stir the shit.
06:22 ender2070_16bit; RISC-V is open source
06:22 ender2070_16bit; build your own computer
06:23 psydruid; exactly
06:23 psydruid; and build your own software
06:23 ender2070_16bit; +1
06:23 loner; it is almost impossible to defend against the anti-competitive practices of the industry
06:24 loner; even if, it is simply not desireable to re-implement particular crap with a sane toolchain
06:24 ender2070_16bit; i thought it was the united nations
06:24 loner; they're involved too
06:24 loner; yes
06:24 loner; criminal, corrupt cartell
06:25 ender2070_16bit; IBM/Wintel/Pentagon/GNU/FSF/UN conspiracy right
06:25 loner; but you know, GNU/FSF etc., that's all "non-profit" "NGO"
06:26 ender2070_16bit; I guess technically I could run FreeBSD on my x86_64 laptop, use firefox instead of brave, and run element and discord in browser
06:27 psydruid; the RISC-V/ARM/POWER/SPARC/MIPS cartel are co-conspirators
06:27 DaemonFC; Ted Tso is both smarter than Garrett and has made actual contributions to Linux.
06:27 DaemonFC; So good enough reasons to target him.
06:27 psydruid; I had FreeBSD installed on a few of my laptops
06:27 ender2070_16bit; psydruid - how did you like it?
06:28 psydruid; on one of them the hard drive died, so I'll need to get an SSD to get it up and running again
06:28 DaemonFC; No user actually wants Secure Boot once they find out what it does. Mostly making it harder to boot their computer (or impossible thanks to ridiculous bugs). And then they go to try to add an unsigned module and that won't load.
06:28 DaemonFC; It's more bullshit.
06:28 DaemonFC; It's another reason to abandon the PC entirely soon.
06:29 DaemonFC; Eventually, they won't just turn it on by default, you won't have a choice.
06:29 psydruid; ender2070_16bit: it worked fine for me and it doesn't have systemd, so that's an advantage
06:29 psydruid; I didn't try to get any Linux software running, though
06:30 loner; the last relevant attempt with BSD was OpenBSD evaluating PCC compiler
06:31 psydruid; PCC aarch64 produced crashing binaries for me
06:31 psydruid; I don't know if anyone has fixed that yet
06:31 ender2070_16bit; I got a FreeBSD Virtual Machine running with Mate Desktop. It's using about 384MB
06:32 psydruid; it won't be much leaner than a modern GNU/Linux desktop, but that's because the applications are so bloated these days
06:33 loner; for fun, i could try to dump musl-libc risc-v ASM into riscv64-tcc and see how that goes...
06:33 ender2070_16bit; thats true
06:33 ender2070_16bit; oh I also use keybase
06:33 psydruid; it's as if no one knows how to write good software anymore
06:33 ender2070_16bit; there doesn't seem to be a keybase for freebsd
06:33 DaemonFC; https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/garrett-slams-tso-as-rape-apologist.html
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06:33 TR Bot; - Garrett slams Ts'o as 'rape apologist'
06:33 DaemonFC; :/
06:34 psydruid; again?
06:34 DaemonFC; "Garrett, who styles himself as a defender of women's rights."
06:34 ender2070_16bit; yeah applications are really bloated these days. discord uses about 400MB of ram
06:34 DaemonFC; 100.5% of all women, whether they want it or not.
06:34 DaemonFC; ;)
06:34 ender2070_16bit; meanwhile hexchat sits at about 50MB
06:35 ender2070_16bit; I could use discord in pidgin and that sits at about 50MB too
06:35 loner; well, catgirl irc sits at 5Megs RAM
06:35 *DaemonFC starts using different pronouns so that Matthew Garrett will come to her assistance
06:35 DaemonFC; Everyone knows women can't take care of themselves without Garrett.
06:35 ender2070_16bit; loner - i want a GUI irc client
06:36 psydruid; is he like a hitman who gets hired by LF-connected people to discredit long-term contributors to free software?
06:36 DaemonFC; He thinks doing it (for free) will get more favor from his bosses at Microshit.
06:36 psydruid; oh, that was 10 years ago
06:36 DaemonFC; And that they'll slip him more money through a proxy company.
06:37 psydruid; what will he do when Microshit goes under?
06:37 ender2070_16bit; ok so i go into facebook and use the activity log to delete all my posts and reacts, and facebook asks for my password to confirm and sends me a harassing email
06:37 ender2070_16bit; lol
06:38 psydruid; flushed down the toilet
06:38 psydruid; what is on facebook stays on facebook
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06:43 ender2070_16bit; yeah im sure they keep a copy of everything you delete
06:44 ender2070_16bit; i hate facebook but it has such good memes
06:45 psydruid; facebook is the biggest meme
06:45 ender2070_16bit; just in case they don't tho
06:45 ender2070_16bit; potential employers like to look at peoples private facebook posts
06:46 ender2070_16bit; facebook sells access
06:47 psydruid; that's why it's better not to have a facebook account
06:47 ender2070_16bit; i was at one job interview, they asked about something on my facebook, later i checked and it turns out the post was marked private
06:47 ender2070_16bit; i use facebook with a fake name now
06:48 ender2070_16bit; i want to keep in touch with a few people who aren't on other networks
06:52 DaemonFC; Fakebook will decide what "misleading" is.
06:52 DaemonFC; Thank you very much!
06:57 DaemonFC; The whole idea of "rape culture" is something out of a reprobate mind that just hates masculinity and wants to attack men using any nasty thing it can.
06:57 DaemonFC; So it doesn't surprise me that Garrett perpetuates the myth.
06:57 DaemonFC; That's all it is, is a myth.
06:59 DaemonFC; Feminists are a really nasty piece of work, but it's so much worse when it's an alleged man walking around using bullshit phrases like "toxic masculinity".
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07:00 DaemonFC; Their ultimate goal is to paint even identifying as a man as a disease and as a mental illness.
07:04 DaemonFC; From what I can tell, Ted Tso had a one liner joking about people getting really drunk and having sex.
07:05 DaemonFC; And the joke is funny when you consider it in a modern sense because of all of these idiot Democrats passing "consent" laws like the ones in California or Illinois.
07:05 DaemonFC; California requires people to affirmatively consent. "Right, hold up, I have the legal contract right here!"
07:06 DaemonFC; Illinois says if a person is drunk they can't consent. That's new. That passed this year I think. Anyway, that's where Ted Tso's joke gets really funny.
07:06 DaemonFC; Because if both of you are drunk, you just raped each other.
07:07 DaemonFC; I mean, what we used to just call life where you woke up and you knew you'd both been drinking and maybe one of you think "AHHH!!!" because the other one was below your standards and you just go your separate ways is now a federal case, right? Big stinking federal case.
07:09 DaemonFC; I went drinking the night of my 21st birthday. Woke up next to someone. Okay, it's life. You start drinking, you make lousy decisions. Trying to pin your lousy decisions on other people is a really scummy thing to do.
07:10 DaemonFC; And then there's the "I had sex but now I'm mad and I'll go get him in trouble!" "rape".
07:10 DaemonFC; Where it wasn't rape, but now going to the cops is revenge.
07:10 loner; DaemonFC: defamation is a legal offense too
07:11 DaemonFC; Ted Tso should have sued.
07:13 loner; depends, in germany, he could sue for compensation of damages due to harmed reputation in case of defamation
07:13 DaemonFC; I probably would have if someone went to various publications and tried to paint me as a rapist in order to professionally destroy me for his own stolen gain.
07:14 DaemonFC; It's very unfortunate that Ted Tso didn't do that.
07:14 DaemonFC; He could have financially ruined GULAG for that.
07:14 DaemonFC; And then we wouldn't have had to endure all of these years of him.
07:17 DaemonFC; The American Psychological Association has warned that "traditional masculinity ideology" is associated with negative effects on mental and physical health
07:17 DaemonFC; Yeah, the APA also said homosexuality was a mental illness.
07:17 DaemonFC; And now they say being trans is a mental illness.
07:18 DaemonFC; Everything's a mental illness!
07:19 DaemonFC; The APA is an oppressive organization.
07:19 DaemonFC; In any decade.
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07:20 DaemonFC; "Men who adhere to traditionally masculine cultural norms, such as risk-taking, violence, dominance, the primacy of work, need for emotional control, desire to win, and pursuit of social status, tend to be more likely to experience psychological problems such as depression, stress, body image problems, substance use, and poor social functioning."
07:20 DaemonFC; Just be a loser and a wimp. -The APA
07:21 DaemonFC; They tossed a few negatives in there just to scare the hell out of everyone.
07:21 DaemonFC; Guilt by association!
07:21 DaemonFC; Of course, violence is fine. We don't really mind violence do we?
07:21 DaemonFC; Why are we spending half our budget always being at war with people if we mind violence so much?
07:21 DaemonFC; When you vote, you're using violence.
07:22 DaemonFC; You're using state violence to control your neighbor.
07:22 loner; "cultural norms", some norms aren't cultural, they're natural, evolved over millions of years
07:22 DaemonFC; When mjg59_ sends Nancy Pelosi to the House to steal my paycheck and give it to someone else, he's using violence against me.
07:22 loner; *evolved in
07:23 DaemonFC; Yeah, you know, you go back thousands of years and rape was how most people got pregnant.
07:23 DaemonFC; There weren't any laws.
07:23 loner; i didn't live thousands of years ago, and i doubt it was a cultural norm at that time
07:23 DaemonFC; People were operating on a different level then.
07:24 DaemonFC; It was pretty common in many places.
07:24 DaemonFC; In some cultures, pedophilia was normalized, in that society. Greece did that.
07:24 DaemonFC; That was a cultural norm in Greece at a certain time.
07:24 DaemonFC; So, this respect for other cultures thing? Bullshit. It's more bullshit.
07:25 DaemonFC; The reason that American states have to raise marriage laws to 18 all of a sudden, is that Muslim perverts are moving here and raping children by "marrying" them.
07:25 DaemonFC; It wasn't a problem until now so the states didn't have to act on it really.
07:26 DaemonFC; They had all these old marriage laws on the books from when people died of old age at 40-45 and they started having kids at 13.
07:26 DaemonFC; Time to go deal with that. We have some Muslim perverts in the country now making a big fucking issue out of this.
07:26 DaemonFC; And since we can't throw them back, oh god no, we just have to regulate around the problems the sickos are causing.
07:27 loner; you won't provoke any argument with me over this
07:27 DaemonFC; This is what happens when the uncivilized world comes to live in your country.
07:28 DaemonFC; There was no "child bride" problem really until now. Like, before all these Muslims started happening, there were probably 2-3 marriages to a minor in an entire state over the course of a year.
07:29 DaemonFC; And even then it probably wasn't "gross" it was probably two minors getting their parents to sign the marriage license.
07:29 loner; which country? usa? germany?
07:29 loner; i haven't got any data.
07:29 DaemonFC; The United States.
07:30 DaemonFC; My mom got married when she was 17 and my dad was 22.
07:30 DaemonFC; I mean, that's the whole reason why we were fine with "legal safeguards".
07:31 DaemonFC; Like your parents have to sign this, and then the judge has to talk to both of you.
07:31 DaemonFC; That's how it is in Indiana.
07:32 DaemonFC; You can get married at 16 to an adult of any age in Indiana, but you can't be an adjudicated delinquent, you have to be doing well in school, your parents have to sign it, the judge has to approve the thing.
07:32 DaemonFC; There's a lot of safeguards.
07:32 DaemonFC; But then you had these states like New Jersey.
07:33 DaemonFC; They recently changed it, but basically the system was so broken that parents would force 12 year olds into arranged marriages, and there was no judge, and you know....
07:33 DaemonFC; That's just ripe for abuse.
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07:33 DaemonFC; It gets around the rape laws. So the people who brought "rape culture" to the US are the Muslims. "Child rape culture"
07:33 DaemonFC; Let's see if Matt will touch that one.
07:33 loner; the Indiana legislation is reasonable, and similar to germany's
07:34 loner; and New Jersey, i question this, whatever legislation and safeguards existed, such must be enforced somehow
07:34 loner; laws without compliance are, useless
07:34 DaemonFC; They had to wait until Chris Christie was out of office to change THAT law.
07:34 DaemonFC; He didn't want to "offend religious beliefs".
07:34 loner; could it be, New Jersey could have introduced any type of reasonable legislation and safeguards, but couldn't enforce compliance?
07:35 DaemonFC; They could enforce compliance.
07:35 DaemonFC; If you're not married and it's not on file with the state and you have sex with someone below the age of consent who is not your spouse, it is rape.
07:35 DaemonFC; That's the enforcement!
07:36 DaemonFC; States with higher age of consent laws that allow marriage under some circumstances to someone younger make exceptions for the statutory rape law.
07:36 DaemonFC; So perverts like to exploit that to prey on children and have the state be unable to stop them.
07:37 DaemonFC; Because when it's your spouse, it's not illegal.
07:38 DaemonFC; I think states should bring back felony adultery laws.
07:38 DaemonFC; There's a correct way to end a marriage and have sex outside of it.
07:38 DaemonFC; Go to the court and end the marriage.
07:38 loner; child abuse is criminal, regardless of what laws
07:38 DaemonFC; That's the thing though.
07:39 DaemonFC; A lot of pedophiles will marry their victim if they can.
07:39 DaemonFC; In some states, like Mississippi, it shuts down ACTIVE prosecutions for previous offenses!
07:39 loner; "pedophilia" is an euphemism
07:39 loner; in this context
07:40 DaemonFC; There's something we used to have in this country.....something that's gone missing.....
07:40 DaemonFC; Standards.
07:40 DaemonFC; :)
07:45 DaemonFC; Ariadne, Arch Linux patched DT_HASH back into glibc.
07:45 DaemonFC; LOL
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07:54 ender2070_16bit; yay!
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09:33 TR News; (NEW): Liso App Is An Open-source Decentralized Private Data Vault https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Liso_App_Is_An_Open_source_Decentralized_Private_Data_Vault.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Liso_App_Is_An_Open_source_Decentralized_Private_Data_Vault.gmi
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09:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Liso App Is An Open-source Decentralized Private Data Vault
09:34 TR News; (NEW): Python tops programming love list but for jobs, learn SQL https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Python_tops_programming_love_list_but_for_jobs_learn_SQL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Python_tops_programming_love_list_but_for_jobs_learn_SQL.gmi
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09:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Python tops programming love list but for jobs, learn SQL
09:34 TR News; Raspberry Pi Monitor Not Working? Try These Fixes - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/raspberry-pi-monitor-not-working-fixes/ Source: MakeTech Easier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/raspberry-pi-monitor-not-working-fixes/
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09:34 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Monitor Not Working? Try These Fixes - Make Tech Easier
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09:35 TR News; BSD Now 469: Ctrl-C Reset https://www.bsdnow.tv/469 Source: The BSD Now Podcast "FreeBSD Q2 2022 Status Report, FreeBSD in Science, fastest yes(1) in the west, Why Programmers Cant "Reset" Programs With Ctrl-C, Run Slack in FreeBSDs Linuxulator, and more."
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09:35 TR Bot; BSD Now 469: Ctrl-C Reset
09:37 TR News; So deaths this summer are basically treble what they were two summers ago (the breakout). Is that really much progress? https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/25/covid-summers/
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09:37 TR Bot; Blog Archive Tale of Three Summers of COVID-19 in the UK, as Told by Yesterdays Official Numbers
09:37 TR News; Britney has fired up Windows 3.11 to show were compatible with it, both on the IRC side and the Web side http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/
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09:37 TR Bot; Techrights Compatible With Computers From 30+ Years Ago | Techrights
09:44 TR News; 16 Open-source Starters and Boilerplate for Building Your SaaS Project https://medevel.com/16-os-saas/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/16-os-saas/
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09:44 TR Bot; 16 Open-source Starters and Boilerplate for Building Your SaaS Project
09:45 TR News; ICBM: "With technology evolving faster than ever, here are seven things you can implement today to improve your leadership game and prepare your teams for the future of work." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/it-leadership-prepare-future-work
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09:45 TR Bot; 7 ways CIOs can prepare today for the future of work | The Enterprisers Project
09:46 TR News; Explore [buzzword] with Red Hat at ArgoCon 2022 | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/25/explore-gitops-red-hat-argocon-2022 Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/25/explore-gitops-red-hat-argocon-2022
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09:46 TR Bot; Explore GitOps with Red Hat at ArgoCon 2022 | Red Hat Developer
09:46 TR News; "The just-in-time (JIT) compiler in OpenJDK improves Java performance through a number of optimizations, particularly in loops." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/25/optimize-loops-long-variables-java
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09:46 TR Bot; Optimize loops with long variables in Java | Red Hat Developer
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09:52 TR News; x86 is doomed. Raspi copycat for 5 times the price, takes up a LOT more energy. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/25/up-squared-2-is-a-compact-elkhart-lake-sbc-with-celeron-n6210-or-pentium-j6426-processor/
09:52 TR Bot; UP Squared 2 is a compact Elkhart Lake SBC with Celeron N6210 or Pentium J6426 processor - CNX Software
09:53 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: ^
10:05 psydruid; yeah, lol
10:07 psydruid; as if x86 "compatibility" is worth paying 2-5 times the price
10:07 XRevan86; schestowitz: "it''s Vista 11; the service pack of Vista 10; to make it seem like something new gets made" <- Like I previously mentioned, to bump the requirements, which Microsoft is going to do again. Windows 12 is going to be even more elitist.
10:08 psydruid; everything from Intel Alder Lake and AMD Zen 3?
10:08 psydruid; in Redmond they're suffering from headless chicken syndrome
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; price of purcahse
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; the "TCO" is worse
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; like paying extra 20 dollars per year
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; for 5-10 years
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; just for electricity
10:10 TR News; (NEW): StarFive VisionFive 2 quad-core RISC-V SBC launched for $46 and up (Crowdfunding) (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/StarFive_VisionFive_2_quad_core_RISC_V_SBC_launched_for_46_and_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/StarFive_VisionFive_2_quad_core_RISC_V_SBC_launched_for_46_and_.gmi
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10:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines StarFive VisionFive 2 quad-core RISC-V SBC launched for $46 and up (Crowdfunding) (UPDATED)
10:11 TR News; (NEW): Using eBPF for network observability in the cloud https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Using_eBPF_for_network_observability_in_the_cloud.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Using_eBPF_for_network_observability_in_the_cloud.gmi
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10:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Using eBPF for network observability in the cloud
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10:12 psydruid; Celeron N6210 isn't power-hungry, but it's also barely faster than a 20 ARM chip
10:13 psydruid; you won't want to run Vista 10/11 on it
10:16 techuser; souseksi: is your nickname related to Souseiseki from Rozen Maiden?
10:17 souseksi; techuser: yes, it is.
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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10:27 TR News; "There are old mushroom eaters, and there are bold mushroom eaters. But there are no old, bold mushroom eaters." gemini://tilde.pink/~telepta/gems/mushroom-eaters.gmi
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10:27 TR News; Why You Should Hone Your Firecraft gemini://tilde.pink/~telepta/gems/firemaking-level.gmi
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10:28 TR News; "Then generate server.crt and server.key with mkcert. However, what I'm interested in is automatically redirecting to the offline version if I visit the site in my browser. Fortunately, there is a very simple solution for this using the Redirector addon." gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-08-25.gmi
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10:34 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Android_Leftovers.gmi
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10:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
10:36 TR News; IT [sic] Pro [sic] Today wants you to think that GNU/Linux is just some slave of Microsoft Windows. https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/how-create-ubuntu-virtual-machines-easy-way
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10:36 TR Bot; How To Create an Ubuntu Virtual Machine on Windows 10 | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
10:36 TR News; Meanwhile the criminals (Microsoft) make it exceedingly hard to dual-boot or just simply boot an OS of your choice http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/antitrust-dual-booting/
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10:36 TR Bot; Antitrust Action Against Microsoft is Well Overdue | Techrights
10:38 TR News; ZDNet had moved ti "infinite scroll" fraud/faux-UI to fake 'traffic' or 'engagement'. Their numbers must be really appalling as they did a rushed job. ZDnet is uglier now than it was in the 90s.
10:40 TR News; kernel/git/akpm/mm.git - akpm's fork of linux.git https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/akpm/mm.git/commit/?h=mm-unstable&id=7b3ef2e6a64440924ecbcc5b6d3f8b7966558c66 Source: Kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/akpm/mm.git/commit/?h=mm-unstable&id=7b3ef2e6a64440924ecbcc5b6d3f8b7966558c66
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10:40 TR Bot; kernel/git/akpm/mm.git - akpm's fork of linux.git
10:42 TR News; Microsoft Azure "embraces" Linux like Being "embraces" Uyghurs
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; Beijing
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10:47 TR News; Open-source storage for beginners with Ceph | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-storage-for-beginners-with-ceph Source: Ubuntu | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-storage-for-beginners-with-ceph
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10:47 TR Bot; storage for beginners with Ceph | Ubuntu
10:49 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
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10:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
10:49 MinceR; 25 020933 < schestowitz[TR]> LAPD=LARD
10:49 MinceR; Duke Nukem 3D
10:54 TR News; (NEW): Best Music Player for Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Best_Music_Player_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Best_Music_Player_for_Linux.gmi
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10:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Music Player for Linux
10:55 TR News; Kubernetes v1.25: Pod Security Admission Controller in Stable | Kubernetes https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/08/25/pod-security-admission-stable/ Source: Kubernetes Blog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kubernetes.io/blog/2022/08/25/pod-security-admission-stable/
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10:55 TR Bot; Kubernetes v1.25: Pod Security Admission Controller in Stable | Kubernetes
10:57 TR News; (NEW): Best text editor for Linux" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.gmi
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10:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best text editor for Linux"
10:58 TR News; (UPDATED): Kubernetes v1.25: Combiner (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kubernetes_v1_25_Combiner.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kubernetes_v1_25_Combiner.gmi
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10:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kubernetes v1.25: Combiner (UPDATED)
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 130.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 116.83
11:02 TR News; [PATCH] cr16: remove obsoleted port https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-August/600296.html
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11:02 TR Bot; [PATCH] cr16: remove obsoleted port
11:02 TR News; The Future of KDAB CI - KDAB https://www.kdab.com/the-future-of-kdab-ci/ Source: KDAB | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kdab.com/the-future-of-kdab-ci/
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11:02 TR Bot; Future of KDAB CI - KDAB
11:03 TR News; (NEW): Tails 5.4 is out https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Tails_5_4_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Tails_5_4_is_out.gmi
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11:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Tails 5.4 is out
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11:08 *Helenah climbs into DaemonFC's lap and purrs
11:13 mjg59_; Wouldn't recommend that
11:16 DaemonFC; Why is that, Matt?
11:16 DaemonFC; You know what I say.
11:16 DaemonFC; Stop Asian Hate
11:17 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/married-people-trolling-each-other-29.jpg
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11:18 schestowitz[TR]; ryan and matt are not married to each other yet
11:18 schestowitz[TR]; mandy and sarah michelle gellar are taken
11:18 DaemonFC; Matt won't bmarry LOVECRUFT afaik.
11:19 mjg59_; ?
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:21 DaemonFC; Put a ring on it.
11:22 mjg59_; Still no clue what you're saying here
11:22 TR News; A lot of work for something so small. The pitfall of 3d printing for repairs is the time taken to 'manufacture' custom made part for a single piece https://jmtd.net/log/shoe_cabinet_repair/
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11:22 TR Bot; jmtd log IKEA HEMNES Shoe cabinet repair
11:25 DaemonFC; I'm trying to look into what proportion of vulnerabilities in Firefox are related to the JavaScript engine and exactly how bad they tend to be.
11:25 DaemonFC; Mozilla tries to hide their bugs for years after they fix them though.
11:26 DaemonFC; So it's difficult to get much good and recent information.
11:26 DaemonFC; Also, this is just the kind of stuff they tend to find on their own or with fuzz testing. There's absolutely no guarantee that they're finding the worst stuff that nation states are hoarding.
11:27 DaemonFC; At least some of it appears to be found when Firefox encounters some actual JavaScript and crashes and "telemetry" reports on that crash often enough.
11:27 *Helenah simulates hunting and tears up a cardboard box
11:28 *Helenah scratches the sofa to sharpen her claws
11:28 DaemonFC; SHHHHHH!!!! Be vewy vewy quiet.
11:28 DaemonFC; I'm hunting wabbits and Garretts.
11:28 *Helenah looks at DaemonFC then looks at mjg59_
11:28 DaemonFC; I got you now you wascawy wabbit!
11:28 *Helenah climbs into mjg59_'s lap and purrs
11:29 schestowitz[TR]; Mozilla tries to hide their bugs for years after they fix them though.
11:29 schestowitz[TR]; "it's not a bug"
11:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's a FICHER!
11:29 *DaemonFC uses Elmer Fudd's New Liberal Toilet Plunger on mjg59_
11:29 schestowitz[TR]; for gulag.. like DRM (EME)
11:29 schestowitz[TR]; and removing RSS support
11:29 mjg59_; Helenah: I've never met you so that's probably inappropriate
11:29 Helenah; oh
11:29 schestowitz[TR]; and making it harder to block ads
11:29 schestowitz[TR]; etc etc
11:29 MinceR;
11:29 DaemonFC; mjg59_, You're missing out.
11:29 DaemonFC; ;)
11:30 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: cheeto powder?
11:30 MinceR; no
11:30 MinceR; popcorn
11:30 schestowitz[TR]; with cheeto powder
11:30 MinceR; no
11:30 DaemonFC; I think schestowitz[TR] means those kernel seasons things.
11:30 mjg59_; Helenah: Not a concern, just an expression of boundaries
11:30 DaemonFC; I'm fond of the ranch myself.
11:32 DaemonFC; Dear diary.....TIL mjg59_ has boundaries and that he's no longer primarily driven by Fear Of Missing Out, or FOMO. Could it be that he's becoming human? What are the implications for this? Clearly must study subject further and report, for science!
11:32 TR News; "This is quick guide howto install Kernel 6.0-rc2 on Fedora 36 with or without latest NVIDIA 515.65.01 drivers. If you have NVIDIA 515.65.01 already installed, then you still have to update your drivers with patched version." https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2022/kernel-60-fedora-36-nvidia/
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11:32 TR Bot; Kernel 6.0-rc2 + Fedora 36 + NVIDIA 515.65.01 If Not True Then False
11:33 schestowitz[TR]; comes to channel of site he wishes to undermine
11:33 schestowitz[TR]; to lecture us on "boundaries"
11:33 schestowitz[TR]; pass the popcorn, MinceR
11:33 *Helenah scratches DaemonFC in the eye for treating mjg59_ like a lab rat
11:34 TR News; Bluetooth + Electrical switchgear | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/bluetooth-electrical-switchgear/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/bluetooth-electrical-switchgear/
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11:34 TR Bot; Bluetooth + Electrical switchgear | Pen Test Partners
11:34 DaemonFC; Relax, I was just going to test shampoo on him so they don't have to do it to the animals.
11:34 *MinceR hands schestowitz[TR] a fresh bag of popcorn
11:34 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: hmm?
11:34 DaemonFC; Just for that, you get Brand X.
11:34 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Could you explain the conflict here?
11:35 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: As in, what precisely is incompatible between me having boundaries about interpersonal interaction and me expressing that I think your behaviour is harmful?
11:35 schestowitz[TR]; you are incappable of understanding
11:36 schestowitz[TR]; you are like Mr. Data
11:36 schestowitz[TR]; from Google Inc.
11:36 schestowitz[TR]; The Data Company
11:36 mjg59_; A company that I no longer work for, as you keep pointing out
11:36 Helenah; Oh I thought Mr Data was from Star Trek, my bad!
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11:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Cutting-Edge Kernel, The Linux Link Tech Show, and BSD Now
11:37 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: What's the hypocrisy here?
11:37 DaemonFC; Oh I thought Mr Data was from Star Trek, my bad!
11:37 DaemonFC; If anything, mjg59_ would be like Lore, only far less capable.
11:38 *Helenah sniffs schestowitz[TR]'s bag and discovers the smell of popcorn inside
11:38 *Helenah steals schestowitz[TR]'s popcorn
11:38 DaemonFC; Remember when Lore pretended to be Data and told the Crystalline Entity to come eat everyone else on the Enterprise?
11:40 mjg59_; Helenah: The rough situation is that DaemonFC and schestowitz[TR] both criticise me at length but never actually engage in discussion about that criticism
11:41 mjg59_; Which is not to say that they're wrong for disagreeing with me (I disagree with them a lot) but they'll never actually spend time discussing that disagreement
11:41 mjg59_; DaemonFC will start talking about random unrelated things instead, schestowitz[TR] will just stop responding
11:41 Helenah; Awww
11:42 DaemonFC; It's unbelievable how bad Star Trek is at times.
11:42 Helenah; DaemonFC: Vague.
11:42 DaemonFC; But then again, some liberal pussies in California do it, so.....
11:42 mjg59_; Case in point
11:43 DaemonFC; The woman who killed the Crystalline Entity was portrayed as a villain for destroying something that lived by stripping all life off of entire planets as it went along.
11:43 DaemonFC; She kills this thing and then her career is ruined and they put HER on trial for it.
11:44 mjg59_; Yeah she was protrayed that way because at a point where they were successfully communicating with it in a way that may have deescalated the situation, she killed it
11:44 DaemonFC; After it kills everyone on a federation colony!
11:44 TR News; [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] add support for CDX bus controller - Nipun Gupta https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220817150542.483291-1-nipun.gupta@amd.com/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220817150542.483291-1-nipun.gupta@amd.com/
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11:44 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> Yeah she was protrayed that way because at a point where they were successfully communicating with it in a way that may have deescalated the situation, she killed it
11:44 DaemonFC; Thus de-escalating the situation. The thing is dead and won't ever kill again.
11:45 mjg59_; I feel like you've failed to understand the goals of the Federation here
11:45 DaemonFC; When there's a rabid bear out going around mauling people, you don't stop and talk to it. You SHOOT IT.
11:45 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> I feel like you've failed to understand the goals of the Federation here
11:45 DaemonFC; I do understand these types of people.
11:45 DaemonFC; You actually run into them sometimes.
11:46 DaemonFC; They talk and they talk and you go around in circles and they never fix anything.
11:46 DaemonFC; Like the people who argue child molesters have rights.
11:46 DaemonFC; The Crystalline Entity had to be killed for the greater good.
11:47 mjg59_; If you watch Star Trek with the social expecations of, well, you, then yeah, you end up with undesirable outcomes
11:47 mjg59_; Beacuse the show is extremely clearly based around a different ethical framework
11:47 DaemonFC; It is idiotic to allow one thing to live as it needs to kill billions of lifeforms to do that.
11:47 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> Beacuse the show is extremely clearly based around a different ethical framework
11:47 DaemonFC; One which is clearly incorrect.
11:48 mjg59_; "Let This Be Your Last Battlefield" was incompatible with social mores of the time
11:49 mjg59_; If you want to argue that Star Trek had the wrong moral framework then sure you can do that
11:49 DaemonFC; Actually, things haven't improved much.
11:49 mjg59_; But the episodes exist within that framework, so criticising them for being aligned with it is bizarre
11:49 TR News; (NEW): Plasma 5.25 for Jammy 22.04 available via PPA https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.gmi
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11:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Plasma 5.25 for Jammy 22.04 available via PPA
11:50 TR News; [PATCH 0/4] Add support for atomic async page-flips - Simon Ser https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220824150834.427572-1-contact@emersion.fr/
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11:50 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/4] Add support for atomic async page-flips - Simon Ser
11:50 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Occasionally I've found myself in agreement with something put forward, but only rarely.
11:50 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Am I like an Android? o.o
11:50 TR News; SmartOS 20220825 is out https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos
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11:50 TR Bot; SmartOS | Joyent
11:51 DaemonFC; Again, when they made contact with the Borg, everyone warned Picard what they were, and in his arrogance (he later admitted as much) he almost got the entire crew killed by trying to negotiate with the Borg instead of fleeing.
11:51 DaemonFC; Or immediately trying to find some way they've overlooked of attacking them and getting them by surprise.
11:51 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: not you
11:52 DaemonFC; Ignoring Q? Okay, yeah.
11:52 mjg59_; That's not really how Q Who goes
11:52 DaemonFC; But he trusted Guinan.
11:52 Helenah; Okies
11:52 DaemonFC; Sloppy writing.
11:53 DaemonFC; It's established that Guinan and Q hate each other.
11:53 DaemonFC; So if they both agree that the Borg are dangerous and impossible to reason with, why ignore that?
11:53 TR News; IBM emeritus Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Economic Potential of the Internet of Things https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/08/the-economic-potential-of-the-internet-of-things.html Source: IBM Old Timer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/08/the-economic-potential-of-the-internet-of-things.html
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11:53 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Economic Potential of the Internet of Things
11:54 DaemonFC; The only reason the Borg delayed their attack at all was because they had never encountered a federation ship before and were busy assessing it.
11:55 Helenah; borg
11:55 Helenah; cyborg
11:55 DaemonFC; They were no doubt running all sorts of scans on it and the crew.
11:55 Helenah; <===[ Cyborg ]
11:55 Helenah; okies
11:56 DaemonFC; Picard managed to blow the time he had while the Borg were amused and collecting points of data.
11:56 DaemonFC; Which doesn't say much for his command abilities.
11:57 DaemonFC; Time and time again, the Federation proves that it's too indecisive and weak to survive.
11:57 MinceR; not to worry, it has plot armor
11:57 DaemonFC; If Star Trek was real, the Romulans and Klingons would have destroyed it.
11:58 DaemonFC; MinceR, Yes, plot armor is the only thing protecting it.
11:59 Helenah; :3
11:59 Helenah; Meowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
11:59 DaemonFC; There are no governments in the world today that exist peacefully and are unmolested by their neighbors if they have anything of value worth invading for and no military to protect them.
11:59 DaemonFC; There's a reason for that.
12:00 DaemonFC; Star Trek sees people "evolving" past violence and subjugating each other, but humans never will.
12:00 TR News; (NEW): ODROID-Go Ultra portable gaming console and devkit coming soon with Amlogic S922X SoC https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/ODROID_Go_Ultra_portable_gaming_console_and_devkit_coming_soon_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/ODROID_Go_Ultra_portable_gaming_console_and_devkit_coming_soon_.gmi
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12:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines ODROID-Go Ultra portable gaming console and devkit coming soon with Amlogic S922X SoC
12:00 DaemonFC; You're either strong enough to defend yourself or someone will kill you for what you have.
12:01 TR News; IBM / Red Hat Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/IBM_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml
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12:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines IBM / Red Hat Leftovers"
12:02 DaemonFC; Showing weakness to strength is not ever going to be a good idea.
12:03 DaemonFC; mjg59_, How do you figure the real world works anyway?
12:03 DaemonFC; Do you think people in Chicago aren't always looking for the weakest person to mug?
12:03 DaemonFC; Why do you think they prefer to go after the elderly?
12:04 DaemonFC; It's like a wolf waiting for an old sick person or a child to wander off.
12:04 DaemonFC; You pounce on the weak and you get an easy meal.
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_, How do you figure the real world works anyway?
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; he fancies himself "CopOps" in this channel
12:05 schestowitz[TR]; here to "protect people"
12:05 schestowitz[TR]; corporations are people, my friend!
12:05 DaemonFC; "That THING lives because children wander off!" -Rick Sanchez to Jerry (Rick & Morty) (as the thing is eating Jerry)
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; COCporations: BE NICE!!!
12:06 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=InFMlXL_Bbo
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12:06 TR Bot; Jerry is used as bait | Rick and Morty S03E05 Full HD - Invidious
12:06 DaemonFC; This. mjg59_ ^
12:07 TR News; (NEW): IBM / Red Hat Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/IBM_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/IBM_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi
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12:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
12:08 TR News; Links 25/08/2022: Tails 5.4 and EasyOS 4.3.5 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/25/tails-5-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/25/tails-5-4/
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12:08 TR Bot; Links 25/08/2022: Tails 5.4 and EasyOS 4.3.5 | Techrights
12:09 schestowitz[TR]; corporations use minorities and women (not!) as "human shields"
12:09 schestowitz[TR]; their weapons are pretences and posers
12:09 schestowitz[TR]; who falsely claim to represent the uvulnerable
12:09 schestowitz[TR]; while bagging $200,000 per annum
12:14 Helenah; DaemonFC: QUIT BABBLING BOY!
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; he has been like this as long as I have known him online
12:16 DaemonFC; All of the Captain Hook memes after the alligator swallowed that kid dressed up like Hook at Disney World.
12:16 DaemonFC; I'm telling you, people are mean.
12:16 DaemonFC; Mr. GULAG acts like I'm the worst.
12:16 *techuser (~techuser@w4riy9batfvrn.irc) has joined #techrights
12:19 MinceR; 25 130008 < DaemonFC> Star Trek sees people "evolving" past violence and subjugating each other, but humans never will.
12:19 MinceR; humans will just go extinct
12:19 MinceR; probably by their own effort
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:20 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: there was one called diablod3
12:20 schestowitz[TR]; he was worse
12:20 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, his real name was patrick
12:20 schestowitz[TR]; he was more offnsive to women than you are
12:21 schestowitz[TR]; and didn't use his gayness as excuse for this
12:21 schestowitz[TR]; maybe even did that deliberately
12:22 TR News; Thunderbird Tips: Rearrange The Order Of Your Accounts https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/thunderbird-tips-rearrange-the-order-of-your-accounts/ Source: Thunderbird | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/thunderbird-tips-rearrange-the-order-of-your-accounts/
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12:22 TR Bot; Thunderbird Tips: Rearrange The Order Of Your Accounts
12:22 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: DaemonFC uses his own Homosexuality to justify his misogyny and transphobia? o.o
12:22 TR News; KDE neon 20220825 is ready for download https://neon.kde.org/
12:22 TR Bot; KDE neon
12:23 Helenah; MinceR: What if humanity doesn't go extinct?
12:23 Helenah; This is all speculation...
12:24 techuser; Helenah: it will, sooner or later
12:24 techuser; the question is when
12:24 DaemonFC; Humans are confined to one planet.
12:24 DaemonFC; In a solar system where only one planet can support human life.
12:24 MinceR; Helenah: then it becomes something quite unlike its current self
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; all animals go extinct
12:25 MinceR; and if current "conservatives" knew that, they'd wish it would just go extinct instead
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; humans go extinct faster
12:25 Helenah; MinceR: Yep but this is the thing, one can't predict if humanity in lets say 500 years time will be a lot better or a lot worse
12:25 DaemonFC; Humans aren't well suited for living on any other planet in this solar system long term and without fresh supplies from Earth arriving occasionally.
12:26 MinceR; anti-science, anti-intellectualism, religious fundamentalism and bigotry are all incompatible with long term survival
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; which execerbates warning and energy drainage
12:26 Helenah; Agreed
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; *warming
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; like firing rockets with supples to another planet
12:26 MinceR; also, humanity has fucked up many things that are greatly lowering the chances of survival
12:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Finland-Braces-For-Rolling-Blackouts-This-Winter.html
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12:27 TR Bot; Braces For Rolling Blackouts This Winter | OilPrice.com
12:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/swiss-say-energy-supplies-safe-now-winter-shortages-loom-2022-07-20/
12:27 TR Bot; brace for rolling four-hour blackouts in any energy crunch | Reuters
12:27 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: You'd be depleting one planet (definitely is lift sustaining) to supply another planet (Most likely won't be lib sustaining)
12:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1651234/blackout-britain-star-energy-warning-electricity-risk-return-to-1970s
12:27 TR Bot; BRITAIN: Stark energy warning as '24/7 electricity' at risk in return to 1970s | UK | News | Express.co.uk
12:27 Helenah; And what consequences will this have on earth?
12:27 schestowitz[TR]; gee, the future is BRIGHT..... SOME of the time ;-)
12:28 MinceR; oh, it is bright
12:28 schestowitz[TR]; then there is fallout
12:28 MinceR; in 5 billion years, the Sun will encompass the orbit of the Earth
12:28 DaemonFC; The sun will expand and destroy....
12:28 MinceR; imagine how bright it will be here then.
12:28 DaemonFC; Yeah, that.
12:28 schestowitz[TR]; humans won't reach that far
12:28 MinceR; indeed
12:28 schestowitz[TR]; they will detonate nukes first
12:28 Helenah; Yeah
12:28 Helenah; but you were talking about the "exinction of humans" and not the "extinction of life on earth"
12:29 MinceR; in about 1 billion years, the Sun will remove the Earth's atmosphere and water
12:29 Helenah; So I didn't realise you guys were gonna go off on a tangent and talk about the lifespan of the sun and what it will do end of life.
12:29 MinceR; the extinction of Earth life is guaranteed unless intelligent beings save it
12:29 MinceR; after humans exterminate themselves, there won't be a lot of time for intelligent life to evolve
12:29 MinceR; and even if it does, easily exploited resources will be much scarcer
12:29 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: or takes Lolita Express to Mars
12:29 techuser; is "intelligent life" possible?
12:30 MinceR; probably
12:30 techuser; humans exist because instincts
12:30 techuser; life has no purpose
12:30 MinceR; intelligence is not mutually exclusive with self-replication
12:30 MinceR; if humans could make Mars livable for themselves, they could also fix Earth
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; Mars is not for humans
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's for tooligarchs
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; they don't want to fix what they depart
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; or hope to depart
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; they need many peasnats here to pack up "supplies"
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; or so the crazy ones hope
12:34 MinceR; they can't fix Mars either
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; the "transplanetary"
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; they can get fried there
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; or freeze to death at night
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; guess what
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; at mars they don't hunour your money
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; *honour
12:35 schestowitz[TR]; planetary miugration as a form of eugenics
12:35 schestowitz[TR]; tenanting based on wealth
12:36 DaemonFC; Mars wouldn't be pleasant even if you could live there.
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; as crazy as that sound
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; this is how they thinkmk
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; to migrate their family there
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; "we are moving to Mars"
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; and then hope to build pedestal for their dead ancestors
12:36 Helenah; MinceR: Yep
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; or something inane like that
12:36 TR News; "Googling revealed multiple solutions that enabled me to accomplish my goals to great degree of customizability." https://blog.bithole.dev/blogposts/nginx-sqlite-log/ | Source: Adriaan Zhang
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12:36 TR Bot; Logging Requests with SQLite and Nginx
12:36 MinceR; "get your ass to Mars!"
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; Earth is "working bees" to them
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; a company on its way down
12:36 Helenah; They'll be able to fix earth because terraforming mars would be an extremely difficult and expensive task.
12:36 TR News; "Since I joined Charm, Ive been working and learning more about SSH" https://carlosbecker.com/posts/ssh-tips-and-tricks/ |
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12:36 TR Bot; SSH tips and tricks | Carlos Becker
12:37 Helenah; And it would take decades, probably more.
12:37 DaemonFC; You can't really terraform Mars though.
12:37 Helenah; DaemonFC: I never said you could.
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; they make greenhouses
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; or uncubators
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; or solonies with bubbles
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; not the whole lot
12:37 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Can Mr DaemonFC actually comprehend?
12:37 MinceR; that would be a fun way to go
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; *colonies
12:37 MinceR; tiny meteorite hits your greenhouse, you suffocate and die
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; but need supply to kickstart it
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; they also talk aboout engineering plant to better suit the climate in Mars etc.
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; if they have a bunker on earth the "plebs" an get to them
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; at sea, too
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; in the air you cannot stay foreveerrr
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; the average "peasant" cannot organise to "get them" on the moon
12:39 schestowitz[TR]; it takes a lot of coordination to make a space mission
12:39 TR News; "Ive been trying to learn Golang recently." https://earthly.dev/blog/pong-part2/ | Source: Earthly
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12:39 TR Bot; Building Pong in Your Terminal: Part Two - Earthly Blog
12:40 TR News; FreeBSD https://xyinn.org/md/freebsd/framework_laptop |
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12:40 TR Bot; FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop |@fearedbliss
12:40 TR News; "One of the computer modules in modern vehicles listens to the radio waves for signals" https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2022/08/solving-my-trucks-tpms-sensor-problem-with-the-help-of-an-rtl-sdr-dongle/ | Source: Doug Brown
12:40 TR Bot; Downtown Doug Brown Solving my trucks TPMS sensor problem with the help of an RTL-SDR dongle
12:41 TR News; iophk: this story neglects to mention, perhaps intentionally, that there are official id cards which can be used online and do not require bank access https://yle.fi/news/3-12590858
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12:41 TR Bot; Bank account obstacles creating Finland's "second class citizens" | News | Yle Uutiset
12:42 TR News; Today Our Life is a Recording. Which Someone can Play Back https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/internetrecord:6
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12:42 TR Bot; Today Our Life is a Recording. Which Someone can Play Back
12:42 TR News; ISDS in action? https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/22086-russia-s-rosatom-files-claims-worth-3bn-against-finland-s-fennovoima.html
12:42 TR Bot; ( status 502 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/22086-russia-s-rosatom-files-claims-worth-3bn-against-finland-s-fennovoima.html )
12:43 TR News; "... users don't so much delete data as put it into some kind of quantum state where its existence is just kind of uncertain as opposed to destroyed ..." https://risky.biz/RB675 warning, these guys shill azure
12:43 TR Bot; Risky Business #675 -- The problem with Mudge's whistleblowing complaint - Risky Business
12:43 TR News; old: Everyone seems to forget why GNOME and GNOME 3 and Unity happened https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/85359.html Source: Liam Proven | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/85359.html
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12:43 TR Bot; liam_on_linux | Everyone seems to forget why GNOME and GNOME 3 and Unity happened
12:44 Helenah; You know these like...
12:44 Helenah; mass murderer setups where it would be like two of them, possibly like a husband and wife
12:44 MinceR; apparently Liam hasn't seen RISC OS up close
12:44 Helenah; One would probs like... always put the other one at an advantage doing the murders...
12:45 Helenah; I believe in some cases, the one putting the other at an advantage is a follower is Stockholm syndrome.
12:45 MinceR; or GNOME, or KDE
12:45 MinceR; "without a Start menu"
12:45 Helenah; Anyone read into the venables case? Robert Thompson was following John Venables who was leading the evil act.
12:45 MinceR; they all have a button that brings up launchers for a lot of applications
12:46 MinceR; none of them call it "Start"
12:46 Helenah; Younger child killers of the 20th century
12:46 Helenah; Meaning the killers were children
12:46 Helenah; Robert kept his head down
12:46 Helenah; John Venables still offends to this day
12:47 Helenah; They both killed a toddler at I think 10 years old
12:47 Helenah; And I think one thing to blame for why Venables is the way he is, is environmental, he has a very rough background.
12:48 TR News; "I had the pleasure of speaking to Brodie Robertson recently on the subject of Linux Gaming, Steam Deck and all sorts of things for you" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/check-out-my-appearance-with-brodie-on-tech-over-tea/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
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12:48 TR Bot; out my appearance with Brodie on Tech Over Tea | GamingOnLinux
12:48 Helenah; I'm not justifying his behaviour as right, merely explaining reasonings why he had grown up to be that way.
12:48 Helenah; *reasons
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; women who drown their own babies is tragic too
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; then again, in china some women let them rot
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; and there are those who leave tghem iin skips/bins
12:49 Helenah; If you ever read up on psychology, narcissists, people with ASPD (Anti-Social Personality Disorder/Sociopathy), one reason for these that has been proven is abusive parents.
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; humans are not very caring animalk
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; *animals
12:49 TR News; "Valve has confirmed two tasty bits of info today for those waiting on getting a Steam Deck" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-deck-reservations-continue-to-grow-now-at-its-highest-point/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:49 TR Bot; Deck reservations continue to grow, now at its highest point | GamingOnLinux
12:49 Helenah; Abusive parents can create a sick human being.
12:49 Helenah; Mentally sick
12:49 Helenah; One that will murder, rape, do all sorts of terrible things.
12:49 Helenah; And such people are partly to blame for such behaviours.
12:50 TR News; "Another reasonably good pick here from Humble Bundle with the Career Break Bundle." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/get-the-likes-of-parkitect-and-project-hospital-in-this-latest-game-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:50 TR Bot; the likes of Parkitect and Project Hospital in this latest game bundle | GamingOnLinux
12:50 techuser; parents should be considered to be evil by default
12:50 Helenah; For conditioning a human into bad ways of being.
12:50 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish
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12:50 TR Bot; Albert Fish - Wikipedia
12:50 MinceR; s/parents/humans/
12:50 Helenah; There was a case where...
12:50 Helenah; And some parents can't deal with children
12:50 Helenah; so anyway...
12:51 schestowitz[TR]; "Fish's family had a history of mental illness. His uncle had mania, one of his brothers was confined in a state mental hospital, and his sister Annie was diagnosed with a "mental affliction". Three other relatives were diagnosed with mental illnesses, and his mother had "aural and/or visual hallucinations""
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12:51 techuser; IRC is better than children!
12:51 Helenah; These two parents killed their daughter when she hit puberty due to her behaviour, they couldn't cope with her puberty
12:51 Helenah; and their evil solution to that was to be rid of her so they killed her.
12:51 Helenah; Fuckin' wrong but...
12:51 Helenah; There is a reason behind everything.
12:52 techuser; why would one want to bring a misbehaving person to their home?
12:52 Helenah; techuser: You will say IRC is better than anything, on another day I saw you say "IRC is better than sex!"
12:52 TR News; "Stop me if you've heard this before, but I've discovered another game that takes elements from Vampire Survivor" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/boneraiser-minions-is-probably-my-next-100-hour-indie-obession/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:52 TR Bot; Minions is probably my next 100 hour indie obsession | GamingOnLinux
12:52 techuser; for 18+ years
12:52 techuser; entire life ruined
12:52 techuser; wasn't the first time I said IRC is better than sex
12:52 TR News; "the developer behind them has died after a battle with Cancer" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/waves-and-waves-2-notorious-are-now-free-after-developer-passed-away/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:52 TR Bot; and Waves 2: Notorious are now free after developer passed away | GamingOnLinux
12:53 Helenah; techuser: Children misbehave because they've been conditioned to be that way, a child is born an empty slate, it doesn't know to behave or misbehave at that point, it has no concept of behaviour and doesn't know what behaving is.
12:53 TR News; "Radio General - Water Rats is the first paid expansion for the positively rated unique strategy game" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/command-armies-over-voice-comms-radio-general-water-rats-expansion-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:53 TR Bot; armies over voice comms, Radio General - Water Rats expansion out now | GamingOnLinux
12:53 techuser; a case when developer death is good?
12:53 TR News; "predatory practices" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/games-publisher-pqube-accused-of-predatory-practices-and-being-manipulative/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:53 TR Bot; publisher PQube accused of 'predatory practices' and being manipulative (updated) | GamingOnLinux
12:53 Helenah; It's only as a child learns things about the world that it starts doing more things.
12:53 Helenah; You condition a child
12:53 Helenah; automatically via nurture
12:54 Helenah; That shapes that shape
12:54 techuser; could as well be chatting on IRC, instead of talking with children
12:54 Helenah; *child
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; ssome parents are like children
12:54 Helenah; techuser: I like children...
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; and if they lose their capacity to think clearly, more so
12:55 Helenah; Love em but I'm happy with my cat...
12:55 techuser; read books, watch movies, use computers, etc
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; cats are a lot less work
12:55 techuser; both cats and children waste one's money
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; they don't even need a walk in ther park, unlike dogs
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; also, cats don't contemplate suicide, unlike kids
12:56 TR News; "Vim has the following three line numbering modes:Absolute line numberRelative line numberHybrid line number" https://vitux.com/how-to-show-or-hide-line-numbers-in-vim/ | Source: Vitux
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12:56 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://vitux.com/how-to-show-or-hide-line-numbers-in-vim/ )
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12:56 techuser; love is expensive
12:57 *CrystalMath (~coderain@mcttbtsji475k.irc) has joined #techrights
12:58 schestowitz[TR]; if you love nature, love is free
12:58 MinceR; generally cats are much nicer than humans
12:59 schestowitz[TR]; maybe humans need selective breeding then
12:59 schestowitz[TR]; to become like domesticated cats
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 120.78
13:00 TR News; "Written in Python and Javascript, Ajenti provides a powerful and intuitive UI that is lightweight and resource-friendly." https://www.tecmint.com/install-ajenti-control-panel-debian-ubuntu/ | Source: TecMint
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13:00 TR Bot; How to Install Ajenti Control Panel in Debian and Ubuntu
13:00 TR News; "According to the IPQ8072A datasheet, the SoC offers four ARM Cortex A53 with a max frequency of 2GHz." https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-embedded-board-taps-qualcomm-processor-4x-1gbe-ports-and-1x-10gbe-port/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
13:00 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-embedded-board-taps-qualcomm-processor-4x-1gbe-ports-and-1x-10gbe-port/ )
13:01 TR News; "Even though the technology related news media isn't about inhibiting thinking or controlling the masses" https://unixsheikh.com/articles/do-you-feel-overwhelmed-trying-to-stay-up-to-date-with-the-latest-tech-news.html | Source: Unix Sheikh
13:01 TR Bot; Do you feel overwhelmed trying to stay up to date with the latest tech news?
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: some human love can be free too
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; but not if yiou have kids
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; it's a money sink
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; and demanding spouses are too
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; that begets a need for high income
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; and then you are rendered eternal slave ("provider")
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; then that leads to ncoonflict
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; and escalates into dovorces and resentment, neflect of soffpsinring
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; that the state neglects too
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; patents will never admit regret about brearing kids
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; because society treate that as pos-natal abortion
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; which is a sick think to contemplate
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; like drowning living kids
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; so parents keep those thoughts to thewmselves
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; daemonfc's mom spat at him
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; how insulting to be spat on by the person whose womb you came from
13:04 TR News; "In the past I've written about state machines in Rust." https://blog.yoshuawuyts.com/state-machines-2/ | Source: Yoshua Wuyts
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13:04 TR Bot; State Machines II
13:04 TR News; "I was at my wits end for this newsletter after my first two ideas hit research barriers." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/why-do-arrays-start-at-0/ | Source: Buttondown
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13:04 TR Bot; Why do arrays start at 0? Buttondown
13:05 TR News; "These messages are well-intentioned and in many cases on point." https://www.wired.com/story/children-screen-time-psychology/ | Source: Wired
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13:05 TR Bot; Adults Don't Get About Teens and Digital Life | WIRED
13:06 TR News; [Old] "Slack, which is now owned by Salesforce, says a security researcher disclosed the bug to the company on July 17, 2022." https://www.wired.com/story/slack-hashed-passwords-exposed/ | Source: Wired
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13:06 TR Bot; Slack Bug Exposed Some Users Hashed Passwords for 5 Years | WIRED
13:07 TR News; "A 2FA code is meant to prevent a specific class of problem." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/08/whats-the-optimal-length-for-a-2fa-code/ | Source: Terence Eden
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13:07 TR Bot; Whats the optimal length for a 2FA code? Terence Edens Blog
13:07 TR News; "In this article well make some changes to the example extension to make such an attack against it feasible" https://palant.info/2022/08/24/attack-surface-of-extension-pages/ | Source: Wladimir Palant
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13:07 TR Bot; Attack surface of extension pages | Almost Secure
13:07 TR News; "Ive noticed that theres a common misconception that Certificate Transparency is a replacement for HTTP public key pinning." https://emilymstark.com/2022/08/23/certificate-transparency-is-really-not-a-replacement-for-key-pinning.html |
13:07 TR Bot; Certificate Transparency is really not a replacement for key pinning | Emily M. Stark
13:09 TR News; "As the NSO Group struggles with intense scrutiny and being blacklisted by the US, its less well-known European rivals are jostling to take its clients, researchers say" https://www.wired.com/story/europe-spyware-scandals-greece/ | Source: Wired
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13:09 TR Bot; Scandals Are Ripping Through Europe | WIRED
13:09 TR News; "Last week, hackers broke into the systems of Twilio, a cloud communications company that provides infrastructure to other companies to automate sending text messages to their users." https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjkvxv/how-a-third-party-sms-service-was-used-to-take-over-signal-accounts | Source: Vice
13:09 TR Bot; a Third-Party SMS Service Was Used to Take Over Signal Accounts
13:09 TR News; "This is because strong authentication is required to access almost all public services and many commercial services, and the most common form of authentication is a bank ID." https://yle.fi/news/3-12590858 | Source: YLE
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13:09 TR Bot; Bank account obstacles creating Finland's "second class citizens" | News | Yle Uutiset
13:09 TR News; Too many back doors, even THE EMPIRE cannot keep up with the mess it CREATED https://www.cyberscoop.com/top-justice-official-paper-only/ | Source: Scoop News Group
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13:09 TR Bot; now relies on paper for its most sensitive court documents, official says - CyberScoop
13:11 TR News; "Cognitive biases are systematic deviations from rational judgment." https://matt-rickard.com/a-short-list-of-cognitive-biases | Source: Matt Rickard
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13:11 TR Bot; A Short List of Cognitive Biases
13:11 TR News; "An international team of researchers decided to look into what factors have enabled these countries to make that shift and what might happen if more countries adopted a similar transportation focus." https://www.wired.com/story/bike-more-curb-global-emissions/ | Source: Wired
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13:11 TR Bot; What Happens When Countries Use Bikes to Fight Emissions | WIRED
13:11 TR News; "There is a forecast risk of unscheduled, protracted, rolling black-outs in midwinter." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html | Source: Antipope
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13:11 TR Bot; The gathering crisis - Charlie's Diary
13:11 TR News; "The history of the technological and philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin make two things clear." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/08/investment-frauds.html | Source: David Rosenthal
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13:11 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Investment Frauds
13:12 TR News; "I've listed the sections below in order of priority if your end goal is to be sponsored by organizations or companies" https://sethmlarson.dev/blog/preparing-for-the-wave-of-open-source-funding | Source: Seth Michael Larson
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13:12 TR Bot; Preparing for the wave of open source funding
13:12 TR News; "GULAG (Google) doesnt even feel compelled to tell them why they have been banned" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/22/cook-county-judges-office-gets-thrown-off-gulag-tube-youtube-and-has-to-file-an-appeal/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
13:12 TR Bot; Cook County Judges Office gets thrown off GULAG Tube (YouTube) and has to file an appeal. | BaronHK's Rants
13:12 TR News; "Twitter's security vulnerabilities makes the platform vulnerable to foreign spies" https://text.npr.org/1119071586 | Source: NPR
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13:12 TR Bot; A former employee accuses Twitter of big security lapses in a whistleblower complaint
13:13 TR News; "Speed test data by Ookla shows Australias actual [Internet] speeds are not globally competitive" https://michaelwest.com.au/slow-internet-among-barriers-to-growth-pc/ | Source: Michael West Media
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13:13 TR Bot; Slow internet among barriers to growth: PC - Michael West
13:14 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I got free human love!
13:14 Helenah; free and true! :D
13:15 Helenah; Best love ever!
13:15 techuser; IRC user love
13:15 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/married-people-trolling-each-other-31.jpg
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13:15 techuser; "user" can mean a bot too, though
13:15 Helenah; You can't beat it, if you want long lasting, sustaining, non-turbulent love then that kind is right one.
13:15 Helenah; I met her on IRC, techuser
13:15 *psydruid tests and exceeds the boundaries of Intel, Microsoft, Gulag, Secure Boot, TPM and Pluton and fully expects to be called out for that due to disregarding absolutely necessary "security" measures
13:17 techuser; I may have some attraction to some IRC users for short time, but it is definitely not "love"
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; irc has two such issues
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; 1). you can project into unknown usernames attributes you want them to have
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; 2) you don't get nuaance
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; so you can raise expectations
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; and get insulted over nothing
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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13:20 techuser; people disappear
13:20 Helenah; techuser: You would know if something is love because you would feel it.
13:20 techuser; people also raise expectations about their loved ones
13:20 Helenah; Love is chemical based.
13:20 Helenah; Oxytocin
13:21 Helenah; There needs to be an appropriate stimuli to stimulate the release of it into your system.
13:21 techuser; I can't even be sure I'm talking with a human or a bot
13:21 techuser; Luis64_gamer used to be here, but then he left because he thought DaemonFC is a bot
13:21 techuser; and he didn't like that bots look like humans
13:21 Helenah; You can't blame him.
13:22 Helenah; DaemonFC has very uniform and consistant behavioural pattern.
13:22 Helenah; Such as posting a URL, then posting quotes of texts in that URL and then talking about it regardless of whether or not someone else is listening and it's always his own topic.
13:23 TR News; (NEW): Games: New Titles and Development News" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Games_New_Titles_and_Development_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Games_New_Titles_and_Development_News.gmi
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13:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: New Titles and Development News
13:23 Helenah; Which is like an awareness deficit, a deficit in the awareness of other people around him.
13:23 techuser; I tried telling Luis64_gamer to come back, but idk if he even noticed it yet
13:23 Helenah; You can't engage with him because he won't engage with you.
13:23 techuser; idk if I should keep asking sometimes, until I get some response
13:23 TR News; (NEW): Linux Mint Release Cycle: What You Need to Know" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_Mint_Release_Cycle_What_You_Need_to_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_Mint_Release_Cycle_What_You_Need_to_Know.gmi
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13:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Mint Release Cycle: What You Need to Know"
13:24 TR News; (NEW): The Best Linux Task Manager" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/The_Best_Linux_Task_Manager.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/The_Best_Linux_Task_Manager.gmi
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13:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines The Best Linux Task Manager"
13:24 Helenah; Constantly asking could eventually get interpreted as harassment.
13:28 techuser; I had to ask him a lot to even come back to IRC, over Discord bridge
13:29 techuser; he did first appear on IRC, then did stay a bit, then did quit because some system issues but was still on the Discord bridge
13:30 *loner has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
13:30 techuser; but then he came back only when I did rage quit the network with the bridge, for unrelated reasons
13:31 *loner (~loner@eq3snar22puje.irc) has joined #techrights
13:32 TR News; Ongoing phishing campaign can hack you even when youre protected with MFA | Ars Technica https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/microsoft-details-phishing-campaign-that-can-hijack-mfa-protected-accounts/
13:32 TR Bot; Ongoing phishing campaign can hack you even when youre protected with MFA | Ars Technica
13:33 TR News; Optimizing Developer Impact on K8s Security - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/optimizing-developer-impact-on-k8s-security/ Source: containerjournal | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/optimizing-developer-impact-on-k8s-security/
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13:33 TR Bot; Optimizing Developer Impact on K8s Security - Container Journal
13:33 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
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13:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
13:34 TR News; (NEW): KaOS 2022.08 Released: What to Look Forward to in the Latest Release https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/KaOS_2022_08_Released_What_to_Look_Forward_to_in_the_Latest_Rel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/KaOS_2022_08_Released_What_to_Look_Forward_to_in_the_Latest_Rel.gmi
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13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines KaOS 2022.08 Released: What to Look Forward to in the Latest Release
13:34 TR News; (NEW): Help improve GNOME!" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Help_improve_GNOME.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Help_improve_GNOME.gmi
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13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Help improve GNOME!"
13:34 MinceR; 25 142335 < Helenah> You can't engage with him because he won't engage with you.
13:34 MinceR; pretty sure i already have
13:34 TR News; (NEW): A review of postmarketOS on the Xiaomi Poco F1 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_review_of_postmarketOS_on_the_Xiaomi_Poco_F1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_review_of_postmarketOS_on_the_Xiaomi_Poco_F1.gmi
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13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines A review of postmarketOS on the Xiaomi Poco F1
13:34 TR News; (NEW): 15 Ways to Tweak Nemo File Manager in Linux to Get More Out of it" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/15_Ways_to_Tweak_Nemo_File_Manager_in_Linux_to_Get_More_Out_of_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/15_Ways_to_Tweak_Nemo_File_Manager_in_Linux_to_Get_More_Out_of_.gmi
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13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines 15 Ways to Tweak Nemo File Manager in Linux to Get More Out of it
13:35 TR News; (NEW): Best text editor for Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.gmi
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13:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best text editor for Linux
13:37 TR News; Happy 31st Birthday, Linux! https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Happy_31st_Birthday_Linux.shtml
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13:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Happy 31st Birthday, Linux!
13:38 Helenah; MinceR: I have a few times but more often than not he'll continue with whatever he was talking about and blank you out. lol
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13:41 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: true, it's a runaway train oif thoughts
13:41 schestowitz[TR]; so you can imaginwe what he's like tyo argue with IRL
13:41 Helenah; Yeah :D
13:42 Helenah; My Autism probably won't be able to handle it. lol
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; oh, finally it's getting sunny outside
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; later then the 3 frorecast sources said
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; 2 of them in gemini
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; we'll head off soon for her birthday..
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; *later than
13:44 TR News; I am my father's son gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-08-25-dad.gmi
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13:45 TR News; Open content that you can contribute to gemini://siiky.srht.site/kB45oC/re-open-content.gmi "And would also like to mention iNaturalist, where people can contribute observations of animals, plants, fungi, &c. Photos are shared under user-chosen terms, but they recommend using some CC licenses compatible with Wikimedia Commons."
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13:45 techuser; IRC is better than children!
13:46 TR News; "For the past years I've had several cycles of disenchantment with computers. Although nice things have come out of them, like Compudanzas, they have also represented a source of anxiety: it seems I have internalized that my way of contributing to the world, society and a solarpunk present and future has to be through" gemini://compudanzas.net/biosejo_120220825.gmi
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13:46 TR News; Local peer to peer binary cache with NixOS and Peerix gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-with-peerix.gmi
=> ↺ gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-with-peerix.gmi
13:46 Helenah; See?
13:47 Helenah; Saw it again!
13:47 Helenah; "IRC is better than" :D
13:47 *Helenah is now known as IRCIsBetterThan
13:47 IRCIsBetterThan; techuser: Hi
13:47 techuser; hi
13:48 TR News; "Police in Yekaterinburg arrested former Mayor Evgeny Roizman on Wednesday morning" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/24/outspoken-antiwar-politician-and-former-yekaterinburg-mayor-evgeny-roizman-charged-with-felony-discrediting-the-military-could-face-up-to-five-years-in-prison | Source: Meduza
13:48 TR Bot; NO TITLE
13:49 TR News; Russia Today: The US/West is bad for imprisoning someone for exposing US war crimes. Russia, OTHO, arrests people for merely speaking about Russian war crimes.
13:51 TR News; Encryption https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/24/dont-wait-get-into-the-encryption-habit-now/ | Source: Scheerpost
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13:51 TR Bot; Wait: Get Into the Encryption Habit Now scheerpost.com
13:53 TR News; The disinformation https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/24/first-person-incarcerated-in-russia-for-calling-the-invasion-of-ukraine-a-war-says-he-s-being-denied-vital-medical-aid-in-prison | Source: Meduza
13:53 TR Bot; NO TITLE
13:58 TR News; Disney https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/23/u-s-appeals-court-affirms-disney-win-against-evel-knievel-estate-over-toy-story-character/ | Source: Techdirt
13:58 TR Bot; Appeals Court Affirms Disney Win Against Evel Knievel Estate Over Toy Story Character | Techdirt
13:58 TR News; DRM garbage https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/hbo-max-and-sesame-street-highlight-the-stupidity-of-mindless-media-megamergers/ | Source: Techdirt
13:58 TR Bot; Max And Sesame Street Highlight The Stupidity Of Mindless Media Megamergers | Techdirt
13:59 TR News; manchinism https://truthout.org/articles/650-progressive-groups-vow-to-fight-manchin-deal-with-everything-weve-got/ | Source: TruthOut
13:59 TR Bot; 650+ Progressive Groups Vow to Fight Manchin Deal "With Everything We've Got"
14:00 TR News; During a court hearing scheduled for today https://torrentfreak.com/private-torrent-site-user-faces-prison-after-sharing-40-movies-220824/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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14:00 TR Bot; Torrent Site User Faces Prison After Sharing 40 Movies * TorrentFreak
14:00 TR News; Popular stream-ripping site Yout.com finds itself blocked again by Peruvian ISPs. https://torrentfreak.com/yout-com-site-blocking-whack-a-mole-continues-in-peru-220825/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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14:00 TR Bot; Site Blocking 'Whack-a-Mole' Continues in Peru * TorrentFreak
14:00 TR News; Denuvo DRM https://torrentfreak.com/denuvo-promises-to-kill-switch-emulator-piracy-with-new-protection-220824/ | Source: Torrent Freak
14:00 TR Bot; Promises to Kill Nintendo Switch Emulator Piracy With New Protection * TorrentFreak
14:00 TR News; How to gender-balance? https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-peer-instruction-approach-engaging-girls/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
14:00 TR Bot; A peer instruction approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Study results - Raspberry Pi
14:02 TR News; UKs Online Safety Bill https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/former-uk-supreme-court-judge-calls-out-online-safety-bill-as-harmful-by-itself/ | Source: Techdirt
14:02 TR Bot; UK Supreme Court Judge Calls Out Online Safety Bill As Harmful By Itself | Techdirt
14:03 TR News; TTAB on trademarks https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/fucking-ttab-says-fuct-owner-cant-trademark-fuck-because-that-word-fucking-belongs-to-all-of-us/ | Source: Techdirt
14:03 TR Bot; TTAB Says FUCT Owner Cant Trademark Fuck Because That Word Fucking Belongs To All Of Us | Techdirt
14:06 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/07/21/tumblr-gets-deep-07-21-22/
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14:06 TR Bot; 24 Funny Tumblr Posts That Deserve Your Attention Today
14:06 TR News; Public Knowledge Joins 48 Public Interest Groups Urging House To Pass Bipartisan Privacy Bill - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-joins-48-public-interest-groups-urging-house-to-pass-bipartisan-privacy-bill/ Source: Public Knowledge |
14:06 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Joins 48 Public Interest Groups Urging House To Pass Bipartisan Privacy Bill - Public Knowledge
14:08 TR News; (UPDATED): Plasma 5.25 for Jammy 22.04 available via PPA https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.gmi
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14:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Plasma 5.25 for Jammy 22.04 available via PPA (Updated)
14:12 TR News; (NEW): FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/FreeBSD_on_the_Framework_Laptop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/FreeBSD_on_the_Framework_Laptop.gmi
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14:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop
14:15 TR News; Links 25/08/2022: Linuxs 31st Birthday and KDE Plasma 5.25 in Kubuntu 22.04 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/25/linux-31st-birthday/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/25/linux-31st-birthday/
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14:15 TR Bot; Links 25/08/2022: Linuxs 31st Birthday and KDE Plasma 5.25 in Kubuntu 22.04 | Techrights
14:16 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi
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14:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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14:30 TR News; "I submitted a change to the nix package manager last week, and it got merged! It's now possible to define a bandwidth speed limit in the nix.conf configuration file." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nix-download-limit.gmi
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14:31 TR News; "Dear readers, given the popular demand for a RSS feed with HTML in it (which used to be the default), I modified the code to generate a new RSS file using HTML for its content." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/blog-rss-html.gmi
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14:31 TR News; ACEUPTO Wordo: COYPU gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-08-25.gmi
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14:58 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/weekend-random-randomness-7-30-22-17.jpg
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14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 112.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 107.56
15:15 psydruid; developers developers developers with boundaries boundaries boundaries who don't care about crossing other people's boundaries boundaries boundaries
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:41 MinceR; https://apina.biz/187781.jpeg?mode=sfw
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16:19 AdmFubar; https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/amazon-roomba-irobot-acquisition-monopoly/671145
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16:19 TR Bot; ( status 308 @ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/amazon-roomba-irobot-acquisition-monopoly/671145 )
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16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.08
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17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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17:24 MinceR; (no audio) https://apina.biz/187779.mp4?mode=sfw
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17:33 TR News; Jeffrey Lamar https://www.thenation.com/article/society/rap-lyrics-young-thug/ | Source: The Nation
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17:33 TR Bot; When Rap Lyrics Become Incriminating Speech | The Nation
17:35 TR News; PET Bottles https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/pet-bottles-diligently-turned-into-filament/ | Source: Hackaday
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17:35 TR Bot; Bottles Diligently Turned Into Filament | Hackaday
17:36 TR News; "If youve always been intrigued by the idea of performing hardware attacks" https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/everything-you-didnt-know-you-need-to-know-about-glitching-attacks/ | Source: Hackaday
17:36 TR Bot; You Didnt Know You Need To Know About Glitching Attacks | Hackaday
17:37 TR News; Oklahoma https://truthout.org/articles/oklahoma-teacher-disciplined-for-sharing-access-to-banned-books-has-quit/ | Source: TruthOut
17:37 TR Bot; Oklahoma Teacher Disciplined for Sharing Access to Banned Books Has Quit
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17:50 TR News; E-Bike https://hackaday.com/2022/08/24/skarper-e-bike-conversion-kit-simplifies-electrifying-your-bike/ | Source: Hackaday
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17:50 TR Bot; E-Bike Conversion Kit Simplifies Electrifying Your Bike | Hackaday
17:50 TR News; "Corporate Democrats" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/corporate-democrats-maloney-and-goldman-fend-progressives-ny-primary | Source: Common Dreams
17:50 TR Bot; Corporate Democrats Maloney and Goldman Fend Off Progressives in NY Primary
17:50 TR News; Maine https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/24/energy-giants-spending-millions-block-states-effort-create-consumer-owned-utility | Source: Common Dreams
17:50 TR Bot; Opinion | Energy Giants Spending Millions to Block This State's Effort to Create Consumer-Owned Utility | Jon Lamson
17:51 TR News; Leave It in the Ground Initiative (LINGO) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/us-banks-pouring-23-billion-russian-carbon-bomb-projects | Source: Common Dreams
17:51 TR Bot; US Banks Pouring $23 Billion Into Russian 'Carbon Bomb' Projects
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17:51 TR News; Xdotool Simulates Key Presses and Mouse Clicks - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1DF58wDDfBE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/1DF58wDDfBE
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17:51 TR Bot; Xdotool Simulates Key Presses and Mouse Clicks - Invidious
17:54 TR News; x86/mm: Print likely CPU at segfault time https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?h=x86/cpu&id=c926087eb38520b268515ae1a842db6db62554cc
17:54 TR Bot; kernel/git/tip/tip.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository.
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17:54 TR News; Linux Action News 255 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149682/linux-action-news-255/
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17:54 TR Bot; Linux Action News 255 | Jupiter Broadcasting
17:56 TR News; (UPDATED): Tails 5.4 is out" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Tails_5_4_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Tails_5_4_is_out.gmi
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17:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Tails 5.4 is out (UPDATED)
17:58 TR News; One has to be careful what one installs on a system; a lot of the media still blames "Linux" for users putting malware on it https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/08/25/pypi-phishing/
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17:58 TR Bot; Phishing PyPI users: Attackers compromise legitimate projects to push malware - Help Net Security
17:59 TR News; GNU "Linux is an amazing and powerful operating system. More specifically, the Linux kernel is the source of many of its superpowers. I have been using GNU/Linux for 25 years and have used a lot of versions of the Linux kernel. I have even compiled the kernel a time or two in class and a few times just for grins." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-kernel-tuning
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17:59 TR Bot; How to tune the Linux kernel with the /proc filesystem | Enable Sysadmin
18:01 TR News; McConnell https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/after-19-trillion-giveaway-rich-mcconnell-calls-debt-relief-working-class-slap-face | Source: Common Dreams
18:01 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1562544729711333377
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18:01 TR News; "The stock market booming. Corporate earnings rising." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/24/only-decent-economy-one-works-working-people | Source: Common Dreams
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18:01 TR Bot; After $1.9 Trillion Giveaway to Rich, McConnell Calls Debt Relief for Working Class 'Slap in the Face'
18:01 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Kremlin propagandists are trying to convince their audiences that Ukrainians will somehow forgive and forget Putin's atrocities, making comparisons to Chechnya and ludicrously predicting that someday, shoulder to shoulder with Russians, Ukrainians will invade Poland and Germany."|nitter.it
18:01 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/254396
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18:01 TR Bot; Opinion | The Only Decent Economy Is One That Works for Working People | Hamilton Nolan
18:01 TR Bot; Russian Deputy Defense Minister's family owns $80 million worth of real estate, reports Team Navalny
18:02 TR News; Medicare https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/24/the-stealth-plan-to-privatize-medicare-for-all/ | Source: Counter Punch
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18:02 TR Bot; Stealth Plan to Privatize Medicare for All - CounterPunch.org
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18:03 TR News; "Dont tell the liberals that the average Democrat in the Congress is worth a bit more than the average Republican." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/24/the-progressive-industrial-complex-and-our-fascist-future/ | Source: Counter Punch
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18:03 TR Bot; Progressive Industrial Complex and Our Fascist Future - CounterPunch.org
18:03 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/25/7364709/
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18:03 TR Bot; Attack on the railway station in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast: the death toll increases to 25 | Ukrainska Pravda
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18:03 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/25/russian-defence-ministry-says-200-ukrainian-servicemen-killed-in-chaplino-shelling-news "Russian Defence Ministry says 200 Ukrainian servicemen killed in Chaplino shelling"
18:03 TR Bot; .
18:03 TR News; BillPR aka BillPR spreading misinformation https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/25/npr-host-and-nyt-guest-stress-that-russia-is-communist-while-vilifying-uninformed-republicans/ | Source: Counter Punch
18:03 TR Bot; Host and NYT Guest Stress that Russia is Communist While Vilifying Uninformed Republicans - CounterPunch.org
18:04 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/25/7364779/
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18:04 TR Bot; Russia disconnects Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant from power grid for the first time ever ? Energoatom | Ukrainska Pravda
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: when the currency of "success" is number of deaths
18:06 TR News; ryanair https://telex.hu/english/2022/08/25/ryanair-prepared-to-take-case-of-300-million-forint-fine-to-eu-court-of-justice | Source: Telex (Hungary)
18:06 TR Bot; Telex: Ryanair prepared to take case of 300 million forint fine to EU Court of Justice
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18:08 XRevan86; schestowitz: Pretty much. Well, a good word would be "alleged".
18:09 TR News; The cause of climate change is humans, not fossil fuels. Overpopulation such as this is only possible with combustion of fossil fuels, fertilisers etc. Want to tackle climate change? Start dealing with population size.
18:10 TR News; I'm sure those EVs run fine on air and sun ;-) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/huge-california-ban-new-gasoline-fueled-car-sales-2035 more pollution, more production of wars with lithium and nasty chemicals...
18:10 TR Bot; 'This Is Huge': California to Ban New Gasoline-Fueled Car Sales by 2035
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; XFaCE: they are "one people"
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: ^
18:13 TR News; Overpopulation is a thing. Want offspring? Get a cat. https://telex.hu/english/2022/08/25/the-state-audit-office-worries-that-too-many-women-getting-university-education-will-lead-to-less-children-being-born | Source: Telex (Hungary)
18:13 TR Bot; Telex: The State Audit Office worries that too many Hungarian women getting university education will lead to less children being born
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: ^
18:13 MinceR; yeah, the usual evil christian fundamentalist bullshit
18:14 TR News; Orban 'signalling' to GOPKK, now this... https://telex.hu/english/2022/08/24/dutch-far-right-politician-geert-wilders-awarded-hungarian-state-honour | Source: Telex (Hungary)
18:14 TR Bot; Telex: Dutch far right politician Geert Wilders awarded Hungarian state honour
18:14 MinceR; they want female humans to be livestock
18:14 schestowitz[TR]; Talibanistan
18:15 TR News; Corporate Hijacking of Democracy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/24/march-towards-us-fascism-began-corporate-hijacking-democracy | Source: Common Dreams
18:15 TR Bot; Opinion | The March Towards US Fascism Began With the Corporate Hijacking of Democracy | Thom Hartmann
18:15 TR News; Student Debt https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/25/student-debt-fight-continues-progressives-eye-another-goal-tuition-free-college | Source: Common Dreams
18:15 TR Bot; As Student Debt Fight Continues, Progressives Eye Another Goal: Tuition-Free College
18:15 TR News; Domestic Workers Bill of Rights https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/24/at-long-last-congress-considers-a-national-domestic-workers-bill-of-rights/ | Source: Counter Punch
18:15 TR Bot; Long Last, Congress Considers a National Domestic Workers Bill of Rights - CounterPunch.org
18:16 TR News; Student Loan https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/25/we-can-do-so-much-more-on-student-loan-forgiveness/ | Source: Counter Punch
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18:16 TR Bot; Can Do So Much More on Student Loan Forgiveness - CounterPunch.org
18:16 TR News; Rupert Murdoch lies about Lithium https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/24/wsj-sells-lithium-neocolonialism-as-climate-necessity/ | Source: Scheerpost
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18:16 TR Bot; Sells Lithium Neocolonialism as Climate Necessity scheerpost.com
18:17 TR News; "Not Without a Fight" https://shadowproof.com/2022/08/24/protest-song-week-not-without-fight-danceland/ | Source: Shadowproof
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18:17 TR Bot; Protest Song Of The Week: 'Not Without A Fight' By Danceland
18:17 TR News; Montanan https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/24/a-river-of-shit-runs-through-it/ | Source: Counter Punch
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18:17 TR Bot; River of Shit Runs Through It - CounterPunch.org
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:22 TR News; "in-car entertainment enjoyable and safe" ... no, it is STILL a distraction from the driving and listening devices are an abuse of human rights, they don't make you safe https://www.addictivetips.com/ios/apple/how-to-turn-off-apple-carplay/
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18:22 MinceR; https://apina.biz/187602.jpeg?mode=sfw
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18:24 TR News; Music Video Disclosed as a Cyber Vulnerability - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gendmuVgbaE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/gendmuVgbaE
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18:24 TR Bot; Music Video Disclosed as a Cyber Vulnerability - Invidious
18:24 TR News; YET ANOTHER package format, and Ubuntu might not get this GNOME feature - Linux & Open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SrcupdKGvBs | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SrcupdKGvBs
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18:24 TR Bot; YET ANOTHER package format, and Ubuntu might not get this GNOME feature - Linux & Open Source News - Invidious
18:25 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Neptune 7.5 "Ada"." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lEPDHXRm4As
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18:25 TR Bot; How to install Neptune 7.5 "Ada" - Invidious
18:26 TR News; Webspam from "Marianne elanotta" gives a boring ol' FALSE dichotomy: "Azure VS AWS: Whats the Difference"... as if you must choose between proprietary software and servers one controls ceased to exist
18:27 TR News; Mozilla as wannabe censorship company https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/teens-gen-z-misinformation-social-media/
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18:27 TR Bot; A little less misinformation, a little more action
18:28 TR News; Mozilla Firefox should be a Web browser, not information police
18:28 TR News; Clown computing complexity begets more holes https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/gitlab-patches-critical-rce/
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18:28 TR Bot; Patches Critical RCE in Community and Enterprise Editions | eSecurityPlanet
18:29 TR News; "CISA has released 1 Industrial Control Systems (ICS) advisory on August 25, 2022. This advisory provides timely information about current security issues, vulnerabilities, and exploits surrounding ICS." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/25/cisa-releases-1-industrial-control-systems-advisory
18:29 TR Bot; CISA releases 1 Industrial Control Systems Advisory | CISA
18:30 TR News; "What's wrong with Android, you ask? Google, obviously. You'd think that, with hundreds of billions of dollars to play with, they would soar above, say, an amateur effort like Linux. But no, instead they took linux and made it largely unusable, except in some, very specific use cases." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi
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18:31 TR News; "Don't be fooled -- you are not Google's customer. Google is paid by hardware manufacturers and advertisers, and those who buy consumer data. You, the consumer, are the ticket to the game. Google (and other companies) will do the minimum necessary to keep the illusion of serving you while maximizing profits from their real customers" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi
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18:31 TR News; "An 'app', consequently, is a piece of spyware, combined with an advertising display, with a small amount of useful functionality, locked down to be incompatible and unusable by other 'apps', of course (lock-in). Apps are there to extract money from you, while providing Google with valuable telemetry." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi
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18:32 TR News; "These are cranked out by uninspired billionaire wannabees, who care more about ad integration and in-app purchases than actually performing a useful task. Collecting personal information is likely more lucrative than selling the app, and selling apps at the Google store for a buck" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi
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18:33 TR News; "First task: find a file manager. The built-in 'Device storage' one is complete bullshit, so you go back to F-Droid. You try one that seems to not work at all, because your phone is like 3 years old. You try another one, which seems to work, called File Explorer." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi
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18:33 TR News; "Your partner is looking at you funny, because you said you were just going to get an audiobook, and three hours have gone by, and you are very agitated, muttering obsenities, and it's really unpleasant to be anywhere near you when you get like that." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi
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18:34 TR News; "P.S. IOS, apparently, is even worse about not allowing you to see and manipulate files. Well, that prick Jobs was known for saying that "it's not the customer's job to know what they want", so no great surprise there. Also why I would never own Apple hardware." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi
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18:36 TR News; Gaining Experience for your GNU/Linux Career - What should you Learn?! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FaFITB2wuUQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/FaFITB2wuUQ
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18:36 TR Bot; Gaining Experience for your Linux Career - What should you Learn?! - Invidious
18:39 TR News; "The affected product is vulnerable to an out-of-bounds write while processing project files. If a valid user is tricked into using maliciously crafted project files, an attacker could achieve arbitrary code execution." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-237-01
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18:39 TR Bot; FATEK Automation FvDesigner | CISA
18:39 TR News; "A remote attacker could exploitsomeof these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/25/cisco-releases-security-updates-multiple-products
18:39 TR Bot; Cisco Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA
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18:43 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Experience Gain, Neptune, Package Mangement, and More" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Videos_and_Shows_Experience_Gain_Neptune_Package_Mangement_and_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Videos_and_Shows_Experience_Gain_Neptune_Package_Mangement_and_.gmi
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18:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Experience Gain, Neptune, Package Mangement, and More"
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18:47 TR News; Joe Biren Engrish https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/08/25/china-launches-the-inevitable-indigenous-gpu/
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18:47 TR Bot; China Launches The Inevitable Indigenous GPU
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18:50 TR News; U.S. Solicitor General and Department of Commerce must hold NSO accountable - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-solicitor-general-and-department-of-commerce-must-hold-nso-accountable/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/u-s-solicitor-general-and-department-of-commerce-must-hold-nso-accountable/
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18:50 TR Bot; U.S. Solicitor General and Department of Commerce must hold NSO accountable - Access Now
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 57.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 136.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.20
18:59 TR News; ICBM Red Hat... "Mastering Kubernetes cluster lifecycle management with the multicluster engine for Kubernetes operator" -> "The requested URL was not found on this server." https://www.redhat.com/en/node/731 Drupal exposed.
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18:59 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.redhat.com/en/node/731 )
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19:00 TR News; "July 2023 FreeBSD 14.0" https://www.freebsd.org/releng/ https://www.freebsd.org/releng/
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19:00 TR Bot; Release Engineering Information | The FreeBSD Project
19:11 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-24-08-25
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19:11 TR Bot; Dispatch for August 24 Telegraph
19:17 TR News; "readfile" system https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/driver-core.git/log/?h=readfile
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19:17 TR Bot; kernel/git/gregkh/driver-core.git - Driver core development git tree
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:25 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Security_Leftovers.gmi
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19:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
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19:28 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22081666
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19:28 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/roxxlrwdkph91.jpg created on 2022-08-16 21:00:18.068470
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19:30 TR News; Spam sites or pure webspam "generating" anti-Linux garbage, Gulag Noise picks that up https://www.gearrice.com/update/a-2001-legal-conflict-over-the-linux-code-keeps-open-the-possibility-that-a-company-could-charge-a-royalty-for-its-use/
19:30 TR Bot; 2001 legal conflict over the Linux code keeps open the possibility that a company could charge a royalty for its use. - Gearrice
19:36 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos " https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
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19:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
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19:45 TR News; (NEW): Linux 5.19.4, 5.15.63, 5.10.138, 5.4.211, 4.19.256, 4.14.291, and 4.9.326 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_5_19_4_5_15_63_5_10_138_5_4_211_4_19_256_4_14_291_and_4_9.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_5_19_4_5_15_63_5_10_138_5_4_211_4_19_256_4_14_291_and_4_9.gmi
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19:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux 5.19.4, 5.15.63, 5.10.138, 5.4.211, 4.19.256, 4.14.291, and 4.9.326
19:45 TR News; (NEW): ALP Aims to Balance Past, Present with Future https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/ALP_Aims_to_Balance_Past_Present_with_Future.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/ALP_Aims_to_Balance_Past_Present_with_Future.gmi
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19:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines ALP Aims to Balance Past, Present with Future
19:45 TR News; (NEW): Deepin releases 20.6 plus a preview of major new version https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Deepin_releases_20_6_plus_a_preview_of_major_new_version.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Deepin_releases_20_6_plus_a_preview_of_major_new_version.gmi
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19:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Deepin releases 20.6 plus a preview of major new version"
19:45 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Display the Weather Forecast on Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/How_to_Display_the_Weather_Forecast_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/How_to_Display_the_Weather_Forecast_on_Linux.gmi
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19:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Display the Weather Forecast on Linux
19:47 TR News; (NEW): Meet the Kubuntu Focus NX Mini Linux PC with 11th Gen Intel CPUs, Up to 64GB RAM https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Meet_the_Kubuntu_Focus_NX_Mini_Linux_PC_with_11th_Gen_Intel_CPU.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Meet_the_Kubuntu_Focus_NX_Mini_Linux_PC_with_11th_Gen_Intel_CPU.gmi
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19:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Meet the Kubuntu Focus NX Mini Linux PC with 11th Gen Intel CPUs, Up to 64GB RAM
19:54 TR News; Do you use Kdenlive? Share your project and behind the scenes footage and stills! - Kdenlive https://kdenlive.org/en/2022/08/do-you-use-kdenlive-share-your-project-and-behind-the-scenes-footage-and-stills/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kdenlive.org/en/2022/08/do-you-use-kdenlive-share-your-project-and-behind-the-scenes-footage-and-stills/
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19:54 TR Bot; Do you use Kdenlive? Share your project and behind the scenes footage and stills! - Kdenlive
19:56 TR News; (UPDATED): Kdenlive 22.08 released (UPDATEDx3) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.gmi
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19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08 released (UPDATEDx3)
19:56 TR News; (NEW): GNOMEs New Quick Toggles Land in Ubuntu 22.10 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/GNOME_s_New_Quick_Toggles_Land_in_Ubuntu_22_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/GNOME_s_New_Quick_Toggles_Land_in_Ubuntu_22_10.gmi
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19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNOMEs New Quick Toggles Land in Ubuntu 22.10
19:56 TR News; (NEW): 7 Best Free and Open Source Linux Student Information Systems" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/7_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Student_Information_Systems.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/7_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Student_Information_Systems.gmi
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19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines 7 Best Free and Open Source Linux Student Information Systems"
20:06 TR News; Links 25/08/2022: Deepin Chooses Another Way | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/25/independent-deepin/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/25/independent-deepin/
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20:06 TR Bot; Links 25/08/2022: Deepin Chooses Another Way | Techrights
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20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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20:23 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=59BueBd43vk
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20:23 TR Bot; Making of Bolg - Invidious
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20:25 MinceR; Lesistance is futire.
20:25 MinceR; https://apina.biz/187599.png?mode=sfw
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20:31 starstreak; https://github.com/skyjake/lagrange
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20:31 TR Bot; - skyjake/lagrange: A Beautiful Gemini Client
20:31 starstreak; oops
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20:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mZnv6LXD9qs
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20:37 TR Bot; ORCS* Army Marches & Attacks- Lord of the Rings/ Hobbit - Invidious
20:45 starstreak; Gotta love that Certified Microsoft 4096-byte stack overflow in the legacy remote support tool
20:45 starstreak; Message @Rosalina
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20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.76
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21:01 techuser; hi
21:01 starstreak; hello
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21:07 XRevan86; DaemonFC: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/commit/37c839b9308cd3d6580bf01077db8cb29ec2aa2f Is that it?
21:07 TR Bot; policy-node: fix potential rescan loop (37c839b9) Commits PipeWire / wireplumber GitLab
21:08 DaemonFC; Most really old software has a large attack surface and can't be reliably fixed.
21:09 DaemonFC; So to an extent, Linux dropping things and having developers complain somewhere else that their proprietary software is affected is a "Good! Fuck 'em!" situation.
21:09 DaemonFC; But in some cases, what gets dropped was actually a part of a standard, adds no known attack surface, and is so small that dropping it and citing technical debt is laughable.
21:10 DaemonFC; Getting rid of the X11 printing system was good.
21:10 DaemonFC; Getting rid of DT_HASH from glibc was bad.
21:11 MinceR; distros can still build glibc with both DT_HASH and DT_GNU_HASH
21:12 DaemonFC; Yeah, so we're back to distro patching because of a completely avoidable situation.
21:12 MinceR; and it doesn't even affect you unless you're trying to do the dynamic linker's job, afaik
21:12 DaemonFC; Then software will behave unpredictably based on the decisions each one makes.
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21:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I wonder if MARISOL will ever give up and just work so few hours on purpose that they pass the straight bankruptcy test.
21:14 starstreak; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5E3gra5wz4
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21:14 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=N5E3gra5wz4
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21:14 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Oracle Has Been Tracking Over 5 Billion People - Invidious
21:14 DaemonFC; That would be a better idea than remaining bogged down forever, making payments more slowly than the debt goes away.
21:14 DaemonFC; If you can keep things moving along until you pass the income test, you can immediately start earning more money again, literally the day after your Trustee meeting.
21:15 DaemonFC; What you tell the Trustee has to be the truth when you are telling it.
21:16 DaemonFC; Basically, the meeting happens about a month to six weeks after your filing. So if they could manage to earn just under the filing limit for the lookback period, then add a month to that, they could eliminate most of their debt. Much easier than flailing around trying to earn money and can't.
21:17 DaemonFC; They were boasting about "how hard they work" and "how many hours".
21:19 DaemonFC; They could probably wipe out everything except the last few payments on the BMW (presumably they want to keep that) and their mortgage.
21:19 DaemonFC; The restructuring would make it unlikely they'd ever lose the house.
21:19 DaemonFC; Then they could work fewer hours and actually enjoy their lives a bit if they actually learn something, like how to live within their means.
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:20 DaemonFC; It's so much harder to earn a dollar than to save a dollar. Even in this economy. Especially in this economy.
21:21 DaemonFC; Saving a dollar means not spending it on something you want to have, right? Finding something else to do with that dollar.
21:21 DaemonFC; As soon as you spend one, you have to offset/earn another one. It's a very simple concept. Apparently so simple that it's beyond a woman with a Master's Degree in Nursing.
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21:28 DaemonFC; Okay, signed Mandy up for the Snapchat lawsuit too.
21:28 DaemonFC; MOAR BIPA!
21:29 DaemonFC; I had to go digging to figure out whether I even had an account or not. It was an old one, but I used it a couple times while in Illinois.
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21:29 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/22/illinois-residents-who-used-snapchat-eligible-for-payout-from-35-million-settlement/
21:29 TR Bot; Illinois residents who used Snapchat eligible for payout from $35 million settlement
21:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Writing an article about Mr. GULAG and deplatforming.
21:31 DaemonFC; "It's bad enough that we have deplatform and censorship-state advocates living here in America already that we can't do anything about. (Including the current leadership at Mozilla, which is going down in flames and in a few more years won't even register in browser statistics anymore.) Why do we want more?"
21:33 DaemonFC; "Matthew Garrett uses Twitter, a system and mechanism for the surveillance state and the Cancel mobs. He also uses "Dreamwidth" to host his blog."
21:33 DaemonFC; "In both cases, you can't even read him without "JavaScript" enabled in your browser, which causes hideous security problems and a gigantic additional attack surface, unless you use a proxy like Nitter to keep an eye on him."
21:36 DaemonFC; "The latest un-American activity, and that is what I would call petitions to deplatform over simple disagreement, involves "petitioning" Crimeflare (Cloudflare, an attack on people who browse securely/anonymously.) to take down Conservative Web forums."
21:40 DaemonFC; "The reason it's possible to do so much damage by convincing companies like these to disappear Web sites that you disagree with is that Web sites have made the unfortunate mistake to rely on them for DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) protection in the first place. Which is ironic."
21:40 DaemonFC; "Nobody can say for sure where the DDoS activities that led these Web sites to use Cloudflare are coming from. Since DDoS attacks are an extralegal and illegal method to "shut people up", we must presume that the people committing them at least fundamentally agree with the people who are also petitioning Cloudflare to remove the protection, and that there may be overlap where some of the individuals are the same."
21:42 psydroid2; I hope you mention the existence of boundaries somewhere in one of your articles
21:43 psydroid2; those are much more important than Restricted Boot, DRM, TPM, Pluton and malware running on that hardware
21:48 DaemonFC; mjg59_ probably counts giving Rat Crap (IBM) an excuse to defund GNU.
21:48 DaemonFC; Simply because it damages GNU and makes them weaker.
21:49 DaemonFC; *counts it as a victory
21:50 DaemonFC; His only real goal seems to be to cause trouble by using wedge issues and a lot of hyperbole.
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21:50 DaemonFC; Which is what Internet Trolls do.
21:51 DaemonFC; I wonder who is running the DDoS attacks against Kiwi Farms that led them to use "DDoS protection".
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21:51 DaemonFC; The evidence that Kiwi Farms has "caused" any suicides is flimsy.
21:52 DaemonFC; It's literally just that someone posted on Wikipedia that some crazy person that self-immolated was "driven" to it by Kiwi Farms, but if there was actual evidence, that would be a serious crime.
21:52 DaemonFC; Under federal and state law. Joshua Moon could be arrested under Florida's cyberbullying law if this allegation had any legs.
21:55 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/freaky-2
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21:55 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Freaky
21:59 DaemonFC; "It's difficult to get anything, ultimately, removed from the Internet, because it can always pop back up someplace else, even if it goes underground."
22:00 DaemonFC; "So if Matthew Garrett found a Djinn and it granted him a bunch of wishes, and one was to get people like Joshua Moon deplatformed from GULAG (Google), Crimeflare (Cloudflare), Shitter (Twiiter), Fakebook, and the rest, the really dangerous ones would just come back as Tor Hidden Services and it would be much more difficult for law enforcement to keep track of them."
22:00 DaemonFC; "But Garrett doesn't mind that, I think. What the Cancel Mob really wants to do is to Crimethink all Conservative and Libertarian political views by way of a sustained harassment campaign."
22:01 DaemonFC; He goes after legitimate politcal discourse and free speech.
22:01 DaemonFC; And still I don't see him concerned that Cloudflare is hosting the Taliban.
22:01 DaemonFC; They're an unrecognized government because they're a terrorist group.
22:02 DaemonFC; Even their promises to only treat (actual) women harshly to an extent were violated months later.
22:08 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/25/coroner-releases-identity-of-26-year-old-man-who-died-after-being-shot-by-police-in-waukegan/
22:08 TR Bot; Coroner releases identity of 26-year-old man who died after being shot by police in Waukegan
22:08 DaemonFC; Waukegan Police Kill Jesus
22:14 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/25/3-juveniles-hospitalized-1-flown-with-life-threatening-injuries-after-crash-on-route-31-in-mchenry/
22:14 TR Bot; 3 juveniles hospitalized, 1 flown with life-threatening injuries, after crash on Route 31 in McHenry
22:14 MinceR; :)
22:14 DaemonFC; If you get into any sort of car accident here, you're getting a ticket.
22:16 *starstreak is watching "Cheech and Chong - Up in Smoke"
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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22:52 starstreak; https://www.pine64.org/2022/06/28/june-update-who-likes-risc-v/
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22:52 TR Bot; June Update: Who likes RISC-V? | PINE64
22:52 DaemonFC; * DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) <-- the trash took itself out
22:52 DaemonFC; Fuck off
22:53 loner; weird
22:53 loner; anyway
22:53 souseksi; DaemonFC: starstreak: Please don't quarrel.
22:54 loner; could anyone recommend a tiny libc, which can be compiled/linked/assembled with tcc-toolchain (AS=arm-tcc for example)?
22:54 starstreak; souseksi, i have him on ignore due to transgender ignorance
22:55 techuser; SJW issues?
22:55 techuser; it is good you don't have +o
22:56 souseksi; starstreak: Taken into consideration.
22:57 starstreak; ignore is good enough
22:59 starstreak; i wouldn't ban him unless he evaded ignore by changing nicks often
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 75.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 150.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 109.08
23:01 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/08/25/1119385178/walmart-oregon-settlement-racial-profiling
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23:01 TR Bot; A Black man was awarded $4.4 million after being racially profiled in Walmart : NPR
23:01 DaemonFC; They don't say whether it's Sr. or Jr., but either way they have an extensive record with the courts in Oregon.
23:03 starstreak; that being said, he makes the channel look bad with all his racism and transphobia, im surprised he isnt banned
23:03 DaemonFC; "Mr. Mangum was never stopped by Walmart's Asset Protection. He interfered with our associates as they were surveilling and then stopped confirmed shoplifters, and then refused to leave despite being asked to repeatedly by our staff and Multnomah County, Ore., deputies," he added.
23:03 starstreak; i was told that talk about reptilians makes the channel look bad but apparently racism and transphobia are okay
23:04 DaemonFC; Walmart should just close the doors to their store and make everyone order things online.
23:05 DaemonFC; It's gotta be cheaper than all of the shoplifting and newly-minted black millionaires who were engaging in criminal trespass and harassment of Loss Prevention.
23:05 starstreak; after my iphone dies, im probably going to get something like this: https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/
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23:05 TR Bot; PinePhone Pro | PINE64
23:06 souseksi; starstreak: I wish you a pleasant shopping.
23:06 starstreak; :)
23:11 starstreak; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0
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23:11 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0
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23:11 TR Bot; timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0 )
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23:15 souseksi; starstreak: I didn't watch a video, but preview looks very funny.
23:19 starstreak; its a satire video about linux users
23:19 souseksi; Taken into consideration.
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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23:20 souseksi; Thank you for providing information.
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23:24 starstreak; No prob lol
23:25 s98259; o.o
23:25 *s98259 gives starstreak a hamper of chocolates
23:26 *s98259 gives souseksi a hamper of chocolates
23:26 s98259; hi
23:26 s98259; :3
23:26 starstreak; yay thanks :)
23:26 techuser; hi
23:26 *s98259 gives techuser a hamper of chocolates
23:26 starstreak; hi helenah
23:26 s98259; Hi :3
23:26 souseksi; Hello. Thanks for chocolates.
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23:29 s98259; yw
23:29 s98259; :3
23:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm also writing about the "student loan forgiveness" and how terribly unfair this all is.
23:31 DaemonFC; After the government and my parents ensured that I would be ruined for life no matter what I tried to do.
23:32 starstreak; https://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-project-1636592238
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23:32 TR Bot; Larry Ellison's Oracle Started As a CIA Project
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23:33 souseksi; starstreak: Thank you for sharing an article that might be interesting.
23:35 starstreak; thanks its pretty good
23:36 DaemonFC; "The people who went into debt to take on student loans are very different people than I am. They typically fall into two categories.
23:36 DaemonFC; Category 1 are people like a guy I dated who racked up $20,000 in student loan debt to study Political Science and works a gig job DoorDash while moonlighting as a hotel desk clerk. At least, thats last I knew. He cant even hold onto these jobs, but hes one of those people with a lot of student loan money who is totally unemployable for much more than whatever the minimum wage is.
23:36 DaemonFC; They keep getting rid of him at that, and he goes to find something else to do, but the $20,000 Political Science crap never helped him make a single dollar. In fact, he owed so many people so much delinquent debt, that he had to do business in cash without a bank account so nobody could garnish him, he had no furniture in his apartment by the time I managed to look inside it, and there was a safe on top of the kitchen counter.
23:36 DaemonFC; Since he took on a FAFSA to go to University of Wisconsin-Parkside, youve already paid to enable him if youre an American taxpayer, but now Biden will wipe out the rest of the $20,000 and make you pay for that too. And theres a lot more where he came from.
23:36 DaemonFC; Even in the 1990s, we had a neighbor whose son was named Lynn. Lynn had a degree in Philosophy, and we used to see Lynn putting his degree to good use, when we went to the movie theater, where he worked for $4.25 an hour as an usher sweeping popcorn off the floor and checking tickets."
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23:43 DaemonFC; "Category 2 is people who did well in school, chose a degree where they'll actually get a career that doesn't involve flipping burgers and delivering pizzas (there's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't need a college degree), and are probably making six figure salaries."
23:44 DaemonFC; "In other words, they simply just do not need our help. Case Closed."
23:44 DaemonFC; "If Biden gave a damn about Public Policy, he wouldn't be taking money from people who go to work and pay their taxes and handing it to losers and people who don't even need the help and are in highly paid careers where they can afford to pay back their loans."
23:45 DaemonFC; "What's worse is that there's no law passed by Congress that allows any of this. He never even pretended there was one."
23:45 DaemonFC; "He did his debt forgiveness to people who went to colleges that cheated them and are being prosecuted by the Department of Justice first and separately, because that's the only debt forgiveness that is authorized by statute."
23:47 DaemonFC; "This next phase creates an unauthorized entitlement for which no enabling law or appropriated money exists. It will cost us $362 billion, which is more than $2,000 debt added to the plate of every American who actually pays taxes. Someone is also likely to sue over this to stop it, and let us all hope that they succeed! "
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