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00:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm glad I'm finally learning how to use Lynx.
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; ooh, I likle this new CSS
00:32 DaemonFC; This is actually a huge improvement when it works.
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; some advanced css generations can make you a nice site without a single image
00:32 DaemonFC; Maybe I can toss Firefox to the side for some shitty banks and other horribleness.
00:32 DaemonFC; Just use Lynx most of the time.
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it's good when you value informatioln
00:32 DaemonFC; Lynx has tabs because my GNOME Terminal has tabs.
00:32 DaemonFC; :)
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; not some boobs and dicks in sidebars
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; which distract from news
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; lagrange with newswaffle is OK
00:33 DaemonFC; Since it doesn't support JavaScript and most things I sign into are broken, I can have Lynx ignore cookies.
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; you can also configure it to show images as you scroll down
00:33 DaemonFC; Keep Firefox around for some unpleasantness.
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; there's an option for that
00:33 DaemonFC; You know, they could extend Lynx to handle Gemini too.
00:33 DaemonFC; It is a Gopher browser already.
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; newewaffle still needs to retreive and scam/process wab pages
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; so it is not fast
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; betteer to use nature capsules
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; techrights is gemini-native
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; tuxmachines will be too
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; I'm working on it
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; tuxmmachines will have https
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; not decided yet if self-signed
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; tor has a new release
00:34 DaemonFC; "I am not fast." -BayMax (Big Hero 6)
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; with SSL-ONLY (HTTPS) on BY DEFAULT
00:35 SomeH4x0r; it should be self-signed
00:35 SomeH4x0r; don't worsen thing
00:35 SomeH4x0r; *things
00:35 DaemonFC; "We jumped out a windowwwwwwwww!!!!!"
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; and those still whinme when GulagZilla sees it's not in some Pentagon repo (CAs)
00:35 SomeH4x0r; if they don't want to read it, so be it
00:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], If I could figure out how to get Lynx to open Magnets.
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; SomeH4x0r: right
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; while the browser still let you cop out
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; something like Tor is compeomised
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; Tor pushing Microsoft
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; aka DDG
00:36 SomeH4x0r; they will push HSTS eventually
00:36 SomeH4x0r; for everything
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; after DDG (Microsoft) bribed Tor projects
00:36 DaemonFC; "Fucking Magnets, How Do They Work?" -ICP
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; sdo I regard Tor as a joke
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; at this point
00:36 DaemonFC; Sorry, had to.
00:36 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; compromised, bribes, bought
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; *bribed
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; SomeH4x0r: they can drown in their shitty web
00:37 DaemonFC; I set Lynx to number all links and text boxes.
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; I'll be moving on by then
00:37 DaemonFC; Makes getting around easier.
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; the web has been around too long anyway
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; since cvs days
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; we need something newer and better
00:37 DaemonFC; GNOME has obviously been around too long.
00:38 DaemonFC; The first thing it does now is say sign into Google, Facebook, and Microsoft.
00:38 DaemonFC; barf
00:38 SomeH4x0r; https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-suchan-acme-onion/ https://github.com/letsencrypt/boulder/issues/4620 - things are WORSENING
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00:38 TR Bot; draft-suchan-acme-onion-00 - Automated Certificate Management Environment (ACME) Onion Identifier Validation Extension
00:38 TR Bot; for FQDNs under .onion Issue #4620 letsencrypt/boulder GitHub
00:38 DaemonFC; Must be Molly de Blanc again.
00:38 DaemonFC; :)
00:38 DaemonFC; Outreach to Nasty Women
00:38 MinceR; DaemonFC: magic.
00:38 DaemonFC; They never get nice ones. You notice that?
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; but I have black hair
00:39 SomeH4x0r; once onion becomes big enough, it will be complete shit
00:39 DaemonFC; Bankrupt GNOME.
00:39 DaemonFC; Cancel Stallman
00:39 SomeH4x0r; don't be popular
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; onion is OK in theory
00:39 DaemonFC; ICBM Bailout
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; but made by the navy
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; foir the navy and beyond
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; it was controlled by untrustworthy actors from the start
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; they don't want revolutionaries
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; they want eff types
00:39 DaemonFC; I mainly use GNOME out of habit at this point.
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. political hacks
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; GNOME can be OK
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; but not for me
00:40 DaemonFC; It's not horrible once you tell it to never send crash reports and get this "Online Accounts" out of my face.
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; riannne likes KDE
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; KDE is German
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; gnome was hispanic
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; and now leaning to SUland
00:40 DaemonFC; I do check my GMail with a desktop program.
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; due to funding from Gulag and ICBM
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; the nationalists
00:40 DaemonFC; Sylpheed
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it won't last long
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; gmail is phasing outr support
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; soon it'll be just
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; a) app
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; b) some web-based thing
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; browser as "app"
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; or just browser
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; and forgot about E32EEE
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; that's "terrorism"
00:43 TR News; Online Negativity Is A Form of Virus gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1077 well, the world ain't perfect, right? The oligarchs's publishers like to pretend new jobs are everywhere and oligarchs are heroes
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00:43 TR News; "Reddit, I'm convinced, is one of the worst websites ever created" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1077
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00:46 TR News; Glad to see OCD stereotypes being broken up gemini://hyperreal.coffee/gemlog/2022-07-15-glad-to-see-ocd-stereotypes-being-broken-up.gmi
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00:46 TR News; "AuraGem Music is a free music hosting service that will let you upload mp3's via Titan to your own private library so that you can play them from the capsule using your identity certificate. Because of limited storage, there is a quota system, which you can find more information about on the capsule." gemini://auragem.space/devlog/20220715.gmi
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00:47 TR News; "Lastly, AuraGem Music will always remain free to use. However, because this service is run solely by one individual, it cannot be guaranteed that the service will not shut down in the future due to financial issues, server issues, etc. I do not ever intend to sell this service to any companies unless they are FOSS-Oriented and non-profit." gemini://auragem.space/devlog/20220715.gmi
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00:49 TR News; "So because of Ingress, and because my brain was probably not functioning, I've walked the most in a day yesterday. [...] we should also have the mentality of "suck less", so that we can have the mindset for improving yourself." gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random7
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00:50 TR News; "So a little while back, I applied for and was accepted to a conference about youth work!" gemini://eph.smol.pub/1657915786
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00:55 DaemonFC; I'm reading through the New York Times in Lynx.
00:55 DaemonFC; I use Lynx now. Lynx is cool.
00:55 DaemonFC; Built-in Mr. Goolag block.
00:55 DaemonFC; No need for an ad blocker.
00:56 DaemonFC; No paywalls and shit popping up.
00:57 DaemonFC; No temptation to check what's happening on Fakebook and Shitter, because they won't load.
00:57 DaemonFC; If I want to use my bank, chat apps, and GulagTube, or Reddit, it still loads in Firefox.
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01:20 schestowitz[TR]; reddit?
01:20 schestowitz; gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1077
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01:20 schestowitz; published hours ago.
01:21 schestowitz; "
01:21 schestowitz; Reddit, I'm convinced, is one of the worst websites ever created, and for the past three years of pure Hell it has been used by these people in order to blackmail me, harass me, rile up mobs against me, and threaten my life and family. Reddit does not only allow this harassment to continue, they endorse it, banning anyone who goes against the narrative these bad actors wish to present. It is a farce, a kangaroo court, a crime against everything the
01:21 schestowitz; Internet should represent.
01:21 schestowitz; Reddit is doing this, I'm sure, to save face, as they are currently one of the most disliked websites of all time. They are known for having hosted vile and reprehensible material on their website throughout much of the early 2010s- potentially illegal material, even- all under the guise of "free speech," and now in the later 2010s and early 2020s have done a complete 180 to save face and now ban and censor the least offensive content imaginable
01:21 schestowitz; without a second thought or any form of justification. I arrived on the site at an interesting period in its history- during the transitional phase, when it went from a no-holds-barred anarchist chaos arena to an authoritarian police state. As such, I was able to witness, firsthand, in a microcosm, the transformation of the Internet.
01:21 schestowitz; I predicted, in 2019, that the public's opinion toward the site would soon shift and Reddit would be viewed for what it has become- an outright circus. At the time, the general public's opinion was mostly positive. However, as the years went on, my prediction came to fruition. Reddit became embroiled in multiple scandals which would put the follies of Facebook to shame- for instance, the debacle during which they knowingly hired a sex offender and
01:21 schestowitz; then banned anyone who dared post about it. They are now one of the most censorship-heavy websites on the Internet, deleting a huge fraction of all content submitted. Programmers have wasted hours trying to create facsimiles of the website without censorship, such as "Removeddit," all to no avail.
01:21 schestowitz; The case of Reddit is a good example of just how quickly negativity can spread. What exists on Reddit today is a false sort of toxic positivity to counteract the outright negativity which persists in groups such as the one which has targeted me. Reddit has become nothing more than 90% pictures of adorable cats with no substance and 10% hate groups which masquerade as righteous causes while spewing ableist and racist rhetoric. The people who attack
01:21 schestowitz; me do so with no checks, no balances, no restraint, and they are, for no reason whatsoever, hellbent on seeing my failure, to a compulsive, even sociopathic, degree.
01:21 schestowitz; "
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; "10% hate groups which masquerade as righteous causes"
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; I know this...
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; "the debacle during which they knowingly hired a sex offender and the debacle during which they knowingly hired a sex offender and "
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; MS Poeter
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; Ars
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; Same owner as Reddit
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; Conde NASTY
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; some people say they would never read comments in "hacker" "noise" and "reddit"
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; even if it's about their articles
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; and other social control media
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; that are full of corporate trolls
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; those sites ar ehives for corporate PR operations
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; running interference
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; and discouragiing those who expose corporate abuse
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; the sites won't perish as long as those corporations prop them up
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; to bully and censor critics
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; in the boycottnovell days reddit was already like this
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft and Novell staff throwing insults
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; and trying to ban critics of the companies
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; which they succeeded at doing!
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; in more recent years red hat and IOBM staff did the same
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; to make those "evil tongues" go away
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; true is a coc violation now
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; "community guidelines"
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; helping Jeffrey Epstein" OKAY!
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; Condeming gates? now you are just being TOXIC
01:27 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D293.jpg
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01:27 schestowitz[TR]; BTW, those cat pictures?
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; he used to post them in reddit
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; but alex quit it
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; and now popsts them in his gemini capsule every day
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; cat per day
01:28 TR News; [cat] gopher://sdfeu.org:70/1/users/glaciurso/phlog
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; gemini is sfull of people who quit social control media, inc. reddit, in protest
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01:45 chunky; ahh
01:51 britney; <schestowitz[TR]> those sites ar ehives for corporate PR operations <--- arc hives, alludes to the neanderthaller, which exists in a hive mind
01:52 MinceR; activelow, is that you?
01:52 schestowitz[TR]; I think it's brandon
01:52 *MinceR goes
01:52 britney; <schestowitz[TR]> gemini is sfull of people who quit social control media, inc. reddit, in protest <--- what is gemini?
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: lol
01:53 MinceR; britney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)
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01:53 TR Bot; Gemini (protocol) - Wikipedia
01:54 britney; MinceR, thanks
01:54 MinceR; np
01:54 britney; i tried viewing the links in brave but it didnt work
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01:59 britney; some people say im eccentric
02:02 schestowitz[TR]; they are the polite ones
02:02 MinceR; :>
02:03 britney; :O
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; let's go, britney
02:07 TR News; The Wine development release 7.13 is now available. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167294
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02:07 TR Bot; The Wine development release 7.13 is now available. | Tux Machines
02:07 britney; schestowitz[TR], whats up
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_Go_Brandon
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02:08 TR Bot; Let's Go Brandon - Wikipedia
02:08 britney; are you deadnaming me?
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; no
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; but I think you obfuscate
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; I remember all this hive and neanderthal things
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; from a decade back
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; and I doubt anyone believes this
02:09 britney; yeah I talked about it before
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; it's a way to poison forums
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; Tim from OpenBytes responded to that
02:09 britney; Goblin?
02:10 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
02:10 britney; I remember
02:10 schestowitz[TR]; you were on the first episode
02:10 britney; thats when I was a fedora ambassador, I have no affiliation with them anymore
02:11 britney; I use arch btw
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; fedora is not doing well
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; even people who used fedora for a lopng time agree with me
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; ibm did a lot fo damage
02:12 britney; probably a good reason to switch distros
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; the site tuxmachines will move to alpine
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; from RHEL
02:12 britney; i found out about archinstall and used that to install arch
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; well
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; from centos
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; but no more rhel clones
02:13 TR News; Reporting Progress on Our New CMS Developmemt | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/15/new-cms-developmemt/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/15/new-cms-developmemt/
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02:13 TR Bot; Reporting Progress on Our New CMS Developmemt | Techrights
02:13 britney; there is rocky and alma linux
02:13 chunky; hey schestowitz[TR] and britney
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne said she'd help set up the OS
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; britney: maybe ibm will do something against them
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; like keeping some 'secret sace' away from them
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; to keep rhel competititve
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; icbm does not know what the heck it's doing
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; it has no understanding of the community
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; or those whom it promoted don't know the basis of the gpl
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; so they spent 2018 attacking torvalds
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; then rms
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; tryint to wrest control of their work
02:14 britney; it might be a good time to switch to BSD though
02:15 britney; microsoft controls systemd, icbm controls the biggest commercial distros
02:16 britney; thats why the other day I spoke about making an openindiana fileserver, thats solaris
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; oracle
02:17 TR News; Reporting Progress on Our New CMS Developmemt Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167295
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02:17 TR Bot; Reporting Progress on Our New CMS Developmemt | Tux Machines
02:18 britney; schestowitz[TR], its technically somewhat affiliated with oracle
02:18 britney; they take the solaris kernel and bundle gnu
02:18 britney; so you could call it GNU/Solaris
02:18 TR News; glandium.org - Blog Archive - Announcing git-cinnabar 0.5.9 https://glandium.org/blog/?p=4282 Source: glandium | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//glandium.org/blog/?p=4282
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02:18 TR Bot; Blog Archive Announcing git-cinnabar 0.5.9
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; being slaves iof Ellison is no good
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; he's a Trump booster
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; and affililiates with other frauds and sc"***bags
02:20 britney; what OS is safe?
02:20 britney; openbsd is kinda cool
02:20 britney; it even comes with fvwm which is lightweight
02:21 MinceR; dunno what OS is safe
02:21 MinceR; i'm testing out a few, but i'm proceeding very slowly
02:21 TR News; When lawyers write about Free software, or people who used to work for Microsoft, they don't have much positive to say https://fossa.com/blog/why-open-source-is-esg/
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02:21 TR Bot; Open Source is ESG - FOSSA
02:22 TR News; Fedora Community Blog: Fridays Fedora Facts: 2022-28 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-28/
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02:23 TR Bot; Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-28 Fedora Community Blog
02:24 TR News; "GNOME HIG CSS Library project aims to design, develop and publish a unified CSS library incorporating the revised Human Interface and Visual Identity Guidelines allowing developers to update the existing GNOME websites and create new ones with a congruent visual identity." https://medium.com/@pooja724patel/gsoc22-gnome-coding-phase-1-evaluate-design--code-d1667a3e1df1
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02:24 TR Bot; @GNOME - Coding Phase 1: Evaluate, Design, Code | by Pooja Patel | Medium | Medium
02:25 TR News; For slush funds, large corporations pretend to care about ethics. All day long they help the army bomb people but their public-facing Web sites tell us about "inclusion" and "diversity". Clever spin or PR ploy.
02:26 TR News; CIA: we schemed to torture and assassinate journalists that 'embarrasses' the US with facts. But at least we hired a few gay people after a long history of homophobia in the agency.
02:28 TR News; "Americans have a really hard time talking about so many topics." https://tedium.co/2022/07/15/class-british-comedy-history/
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02:28 TR Bot; What Brits Know About Class That Americans Dont
02:33 britney; https://git.skyjake.fi/gemini/lagrange
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02:33 TR Bot; gemini/lagrange: A Beautiful Gemini Client - lagrange - Gitea
02:33 britney; very nice gemini client
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; sdl2 :/
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; shithub
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; try kristall too
02:34 britney; its gitea not github
02:35 MinceR; i find kristall and amfora to be much nicer
02:35 MinceR; (amfora probably won't show you pictures though :> )
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-150722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-150722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-150722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-150722.txt
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02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 15, 2022
02:36 TR News; 131 Man City goals... https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/raheem-sterling-best-of-city-career-63793234
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02:36 TR Bot; Thank you, Raheem: Sterling's City highlights
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-150722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-150722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-150722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-150722.txt
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02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 15, 2022
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-150722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-150722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-150722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-150722.txt
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 15, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-150722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-150722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-150722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-150722.txt
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 15, 2022
02:40 britney; I think I like lagrange more
02:41 britney; https://imgur.com/a/02dTd6X
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02:41 TR Bot; The magic of the Internet
02:41 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/manchester-city-training-14-july-63793412
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02:41 TR Bot; Thursday training: 'Winter is back!'
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-15.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-15.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:42 MinceR; then there will be someone who like lagrange :>
02:43 britney; =)
02:44 MinceR; s/ke/kes/
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02:59 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> I know this...
02:59 DaemonFC; Mostly leftist hate groups.
02:59 DaemonFC; Those are the ones they never do anything about.
02:59 DaemonFC; Leftist hate groups, pro-Microsoft trolls, and porn.
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03:02 MinceR; "it's a unix system!"
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03:23 DaemonFC; "it's a unix system!"
03:23 DaemonFC; Oh, the SGI file browser?
03:23 DaemonFC; The crazy thing is that it was the real file browser.
03:23 DaemonFC; They didn't just make shit up for the movie.
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03:33 MinceR; yeah
03:33 MinceR; they did make shit up for the movie, that just wasn't part of it :>
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03:41 DaemonFC; https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/13/23212156/celsius-network-chapter-11-bankruptcy-crypto
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03:41 TR Bot; Crypto lending company Celsius Network has filed for bankruptcy - The Verge
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04:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm writing another post.
04:58 DaemonFC; This time about the Windows Store cutting off open source developers from donations.
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05:11 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/16/microsoft-cuts-off-free-and-open-source-software-from-using-the-windows-store-for-donations/
05:11 TR Bot; Microsoft cuts off Free and Open Source Software from using the Windows Store for donations. BaronHK's Rants
05:13 psydruid; why are people in North America so reluctant to use GNU/Linux when there are several countries in Europe and Asia where it already has 5-10% market share?
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05:17 DaemonFC; I don't know. They treat software like they treat everything else.
05:18 DaemonFC; If you didn't pay some stupid amount of money for it, what good is it?
05:18 DaemonFC; I asked MARISOL if she tried a Chromebook and she told me no but they must not be any good if they sell for a low price.
05:18 DaemonFC; There's a lot of "THOSE" types floating around this place.
05:19 DaemonFC; You can sell people anything if you make the price high. As odd as it sounds, the more they got ripped off for it, the happier they say they are.
05:19 DaemonFC; The cars that have the worst reliability ratings are the most expensive, and most of the people who bought one say they're very happy with it and will get another one someday.
05:20 DaemonFC; How do you sell a $50,000 Rolex?
05:20 DaemonFC; It must be good. If it wasn't good it wouldn't be $50,000.
05:20 DaemonFC; People associate high prices with quality, whether it's true or not.
05:21 DaemonFC; If you lower the price, you run the danger of no longer being "perceived" to be a luxury item and watching your customers storm out.
05:21 DaemonFC; But what's ridiculous is that poor people buy "luxury" brands. I mean, you see trash walking around with iPhones in one hand and Starbucks in the other.
05:21 DaemonFC; They "perceive" it to be high quality because it's expensive.
05:22 DaemonFC; I can make a mean cup of auto drip, you know.
05:22 DaemonFC; Doesn't have the name on it. Doesn't cost $7 a cup.
05:22 DaemonFC; Tastes almost exactly the same.
05:22 DaemonFC; It's all about optics.
05:23 DaemonFC; The New York Times cracked me up today.
05:23 DaemonFC; They did a story on the impact of hyperinflation on real Americans.
05:24 DaemonFC; So of course they CNN'd the shit out of this and found some woman with a do nothing patronage job at a University in New Jersey who said she was barely eeking by on six figures, in her apartment building that has a pool on the roof.
05:25 psydruid; It makes me think those people don't live in the real world but some fantasy version of it
05:54 britney; https://imgur.com/a/rRhu7dO <--- openbsd screenshot
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05:54 TR Bot; The magic of the Internet
05:56 britney; DaemonFC, it might even taste better if you use high quality beans
05:57 britney; I figured out the secret to fast food coffee. High amounts of caffeine. A normal home brewed cup of coffee is 40mg caffeine. Starbucks, Tim Hortons, McDonalds, etc are all around 300mg. They get you addicted to it.
05:58 britney; That's why people are walking around sipping $7
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06:03 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, July 15, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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06:08 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
06:09 TR News; xkcd: Minkowski Space https://xkcd.com/2646/ Source: xkcd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//xkcd.com/2646/
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06:09 TR Bot; Minkowski Space
06:16 TR News; smolZINE - Issue 30 gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/smolzine/smolzine-issue-30.gmi
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06:19 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167296
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06:19 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
06:21 DaemonFC; I figured out the secret to fast food coffee. High amounts of caffeine. A normal home brewed cup of coffee is 40mg caffeine. Starbucks, Tim Hortons, McDonalds, etc are all around 300mg. They get you addicted to it.
06:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, I used to go by Tim Horton's a bit.
06:22 DaemonFC; They had that one, what was it? The half hot chocolate and half coffee? And the Timbits? Fucking evil man.
06:22 DaemonFC; I don't know how Starbucks is a thing though.
06:23 britney; Cafe Mocha
06:29 TR News; Microsoft Cuts Off Free and Open Source Software From Using the Windows Store for Donations | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/microsoft-cuts-off-freesw/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/16/microsoft-cuts-off-freesw/
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06:29 TR Bot; Microsoft Cuts Off Free and Open Source Software From Using the Windows Store for Donations | Techrights
06:29 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: no typos
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:30 schestowitz[TR]; none found
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; I'd say get-togethers
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; with dash
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; but it' a matter of twaste
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; informal term
06:30 TR News; Advertising Is Psychological Warfare gemini://the-brannons.com/psychological-warfare/
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06:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It was pretty widespread to make pirate copies of movies back in the 90s. Especially ones you couldn't easily get in the US because they weren't released here.
06:42 DaemonFC; When we went to the Inconjunction Science Fiction Convention in Indianapolis each year, it wasn't uncommon to see movies for sale that the guy had ran off copies off with his home VCR. Things like that.
06:43 DaemonFC; There was a guy named Steve Jackson who had a small video game company that kept opening up a booth there. His company made board games too.
06:43 DaemonFC; He made a decent living off of it, I think. I enjoyed the games he had ported to DOS and the Commodore.
06:44 DaemonFC; I had both systems at one point.
06:45 DaemonFC; The Commodore should have continued, I think. It was clearly the best home computer of the 1980s in the US market at least. In that it was actually quite useful and capable for the price point that it sold for.
06:45 DaemonFC; I never had an Amiga though. Just the C64.
06:45 DaemonFC; The C64 was getting pretty old by the time dad gave it to me and got himself a PC.
06:46 DaemonFC; The interesting thing about the Commodore was how much the programmers managed to do with it for as limited as the hardware was.
06:46 DaemonFC; The system didn't really claim a lot of resources for itself. Didn't get in the way of the program you were running.
06:47 DaemonFC; What we really need is a renascence of efficient operating system software. By modern standards, I was managing to do this with GNU/Linux up to about 8 years ago.
06:48 DaemonFC; Long after anyone would have given up on that 2004 budget Compaq I was still using GNU/Linux on it. A distribution that not only lived in 1 GB of RAM but did so comfortably.
06:49 DaemonFC; With a single core processor, barely over 1 Ghz. Not even a good one in 2004.
06:49 DaemonFC; The reason it managed so well was the OS got the hell out of the way so there was actually something left to run programs with.
06:50 DaemonFC; When I bought this computer, I was running into low memory situations on Windows 10 just running Firefox.
06:51 DaemonFC; I mean, it's horrible. I don't know how people don't see it. If you don't care about anything else, why not care that it's a real pig.
06:51 DaemonFC; How do you guzzle 16 GB of RAM running a stupid Web browser and doing not much else?
06:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I was talking to mom about in 1963, my great-grandmother still didn't have an electric refrigerator.
06:58 DaemonFC; She sent my mom to the store across the street to pay the man at the store 10 cents for a block of ice and put it in an an icebox.
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06:59 DaemonFC; I got to thinking, 1963 wasn't like, a long long LONG time before I was born. Only like 21 years.
06:59 DaemonFC; And getting an electric refrigerator meant you were moving up in the world, apparently, even then.
07:01 DaemonFC; She said my grandparents bought new Mercury in the 1950s. It didn't come standard with air conditioning or a heater. If you wanted either one, you had to pay extra and have someone install it for you. A Mercury has always been a pretty nice brand of car, at least until Ford stopped making them.
07:01 britney; DaemonFC, openbsd is pretty efficient, the installer is 600MB and you can run it on really old hardware
07:01 britney; fvwm is also quite lightweight
07:01 DaemonFC; I was looking at the sales pitch for a new Chevy. The funny part is the dealer Web site that praises the CVT transmissions.
07:02 DaemonFC; Which are the ones that fail every 35,000 miles or so and cost more than the whole damned car is worth to replace once the warranty ends.
07:03 DaemonFC; You basically have to buy a factory extended warranty on one of these things if you go that route, because otherwise it's going to start eating transmissions while you're still making payments.
07:03 DaemonFC; I don't know how GM is going to make it much longer unless we're forced to bail them out again.
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; oh
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; link?
07:04 DaemonFC; To what?
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; gm
07:05 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GM/
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07:05 TR Bot; General Motors Company (GM) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo Finance
07:05 DaemonFC; The stock price has fallen by half in just six months.
07:06 DaemonFC; The Federal Reserve is getting ready to do a 100 basis point hike this month. The largest they've ever done at once.
07:06 DaemonFC; They're just going to keep hiking until GM fails.
07:07 DaemonFC; Ford has a lot of debt, but they're in a better place with profit margins and satisfied customers and so on.
07:07 DaemonFC; They took on debt to grow the business, you know. They even expanded in Illinois.
07:08 TR News; The EPO Bubble Part IV A Cashflow Problem Looming on the Horizon? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-cashflow-problem/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-cashflow-problem/
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07:08 TR Bot; The EPO Bubble Part IV A Cashflow Problem Looming on the Horizon? | Techrights
07:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I've had GMs and Fords. I can tell you that at least with the 90s and 2000s models, the Fords tend to have fewer serious problems as they age. But GM can make decent stuff if they feel like it.
07:09 DaemonFC; The problem tends to happen when they make downmarket versions of their powertrains to hit a price point.
07:09 DaemonFC; My aunt was buying a new Chevy every 2 years, and then bragging about it.
07:10 DaemonFC; She wasn't trading them in because she wanted to. She was buying the cheapest model that didn't have any options.
07:10 DaemonFC; Then when the transmission wasn't shifting right or it would rain and flood the car and the dealer couldn't fix it right, they'd trade it right back in.
07:12 TR News; #HowTo Install Metasploit Framework on Android Using Termux Without Root Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167297
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07:12 TR Bot; How to Install Metasploit Framework on Android Using Termux Without Root | Tux Machines
07:13 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/now-consider-disposing-general-motors-083101484.html
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07:13 TR Bot; Should You Now Consider Disposing Your General Motors (GM) Stake?
07:13 DaemonFC; GM isn't a good investment right now. They're not in a good place. I've been to the Chevy dealer and they can't get any inventory.
07:13 DaemonFC; The Buick dealer is well stocked though.
07:14 DaemonFC; I see that going on a lot. Chevy lot, 10% full, Buick lot, packed.
07:14 DaemonFC; They're prioritizing Buick. I would. They sell for more money.
07:15 DaemonFC; If I was them I'd probably just give up on Chevy and close down the brand and just do Buick, GMC, and Cadillac.
07:17 DaemonFC; These supply chain issues aren't going to resolve with the computer chips and stuff for a while.
07:18 DaemonFC; With Cadillac and Buick going all electric, they're not going to need compliance cars they don't want to build to get their CAFE fines down.
07:18 DaemonFC; Dad's brother-in-law retired from GM last year with a pretty big pension.
07:19 DaemonFC; The federal government will take it over and pay it if GM goes under.
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07:48 britney; FreeBSD: https://imgur.com/a/YTjT4zF
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07:48 TR Bot; The magic of the Internet
07:57 TR News; [Meme] Grinning at Immunity | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-hubris/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-hubris/
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07:57 TR Bot; [Meme] Grinning at Immunity | Techrights
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08:15 schestowitz[TR]; hi
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08:15 schestowitz[TR]; it's a coup
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08:35 TR News; Illegally Monetising an Attack on the European Patent Convention (or How National Delegates Participate in a Coordinated Patent Collusion, a Form of Organised Crime) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/patent-microcosm-collusion/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/16/patent-microcosm-collusion/
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08:35 TR Bot; Illegally Monetising an Attack on the European Patent Convention (or How National Delegates Participate in a Coordinated Patent Collusion, a Form of Organised Crime) | Techrights
08:36 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Friday, July 15, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/irc-log-150722/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//techrights.org/2022/07/16/irc-log-150722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/16/irc-log-150722/
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08:36 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, July 15, 2022 | Techrights
08:40 TR News; "The Windows Store already makes it impossible to comply with Copyleft Free Software licenses, such as the GPL." http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/microsoft-cuts-off-freesw/
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08:40 TR Bot; Microsoft Cuts Off Free and Open Source Software From Using the Windows Store for Donations | Techrights
08:42 TR News; 6 Best Free and Open Source JavaScript-Based Web Content Management Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167298
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08:42 TR News; This week in KDE: some nice improvements! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167299
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08:42 TR Bot; 6 Best Free and Open Source JavaScript-Based Web Content Management Systems | Tux Machines
08:42 TR News; 13 Ways to Tweak Nautilus File Manager in Linux to Get More Out of it Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167300
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08:42 TR News; Debix Model A packs i.MX 8M Plus and mirrors RPI form factor Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167301
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08:42 TR Bot; This week in KDE: some nice improvements! | Tux Machines
08:43 TR Bot; 13 Ways to Tweak Nautilus File Manager in Linux to Get More Out of it | Tux Machines
08:43 TR Bot; Debix Model A packs i.MX 8M Plus and mirrors RPI form factor | Tux Machines
08:44 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167302
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08:44 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167303
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08:45 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
08:45 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:46 TR News; "In my circles there's been an increasing interest in "Links" pages as a way to help people discover interesting content by looking at what people you like like. For a long time I've had a "favourites.gmi" page on my capsule" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-16-check-out-my-recommendations.gmi
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08:47 TR News; "Old computers along with old CPUs, are becoming a better offer by the day, not only because of consumerism and planned obsolescence, but because of security." Ask Herr Sixel gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-16.gmi
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08:48 TR News; "Now yet another backdoor is coming, Microsoft Pluton. Obviously being touted as a "security enclave" that's built into the CPU, it's a bright idea by Microsoft to secure computers, when they haven't even resolved the malware issue on their own operating system." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-16.gmi
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08:48 TR News; "Last week, an article on Phoronix reportedly showed that one of the laptops with Pluton cannot boot GNU/Linux, all because of it not being "secure."" gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-16.gmi
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08:49 TR News; GNU/Linux IS secure. Windows (all versions) is NOT secure. But in the eyes of "national security" NSA, "security" is code for BACK DOORS. This is what Mr. Matthew GAFAM is promoting and being paid for.
08:50 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167302
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167302
08:54 TR News; The EPO has become unsustainable since the days of Benot Battistelli as suitably-qualified examiners left in droves, new suitably-qualified examiners are impossible to recruit, and quality of patents plunged along with compliance rates http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-cashflow-problem/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-cashflow-problem/
08:54 TR Bot; The EPO Bubble Part IV A Cashflow Problem Looming on the Horizon? | Techrights
08:55 TR News; The Hubris of EPO management is quite a spectacle http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-hubris/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-hubris/
08:55 TR News; A sort of patent racket based around Germany* is threatening Europe; to make matters worse, its creating a financial calamity, but few actors profit from this calamity and coordinate the agenda http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/patent-microcosm-collusion/
=> http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/patent-microcosm-collusion/
08:56 TR News; Why promote proprietary malware of Microsoft, which spies on users and their systems, in a system that deleted itself from Microsoft GitHub and is providing an alternative to increasingly evil IBM? https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-on-rocky-linux-9/
=> ↺ https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-on-rocky-linux-9/
08:56 TR Bot; to Install Visual Studio Code on Rocky Linux 9 - LinuxCapable
08:57 TR News; #Privacyofthepeople: 91 problems but this aint one https://internetfreedom.in/privacyofthepeople-91-problems-but-this-aint-one/ Source: internetfreedom | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/privacyofthepeople-91-problems-but-this-aint-one/
=> ↺ https://internetfreedom.in/privacyofthepeople-91-problems-but-this-aint-one/
=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/privacyofthepeople-91-problems-but-this-aint-one/
08:57 TR Bot; #Privacyofthepeople: 91 problems but this aint one
08:58 TR News; This one is not proprietary, it does not let Microsoft spy on users, but it helps Microsoft's proprietary malware/spyware (VS Code) gain foothold https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-vscodium-on-rocky-linux-9/
=> ↺ https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-vscodium-on-rocky-linux-9/
08:58 TR Bot; to Install VSCodium on Rocky Linux 9 - LinuxCapable
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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09:13 britney; schestowitz[TR], whats a coup?
09:13 TR News; "I want to love the Linux Desktop. I really do." https://tdarb.org/blog/linux-love.html | Source: Bradley Taunt
=> ↺ https://tdarb.org/blog/linux-love.html
09:13 TR Bot; The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; look it up
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; french word
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; you are canadian
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; you are a french speaking nation ;-)
09:14 britney; quebec speaks french
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; but it's taught in schools too
09:14 britney; I know what coup means but what is the coup?
09:14 matey; it depends who you ask
09:14 britney; up until grade 9 yeah
09:15 britney; i barely remember any of it
09:15 matey; but really the coup is when open source took over the fsf
09:15 matey; /me waits for it
09:15 britney; matey, what do you mean open source took over the fsf?
09:15 britney; fsf is still around
09:15 matey; there are other takes on this, they simply fail to explain what happened (in a way that this way does)
09:15 TR News; "Today I learned something that I could have noticed if I'd paid enough attention" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/IptablesOutputAndInterfaces | Source: uni Toronto
=> ↺ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/IptablesOutputAndInterfaces
09:15 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/IptablesOutputAndInterfaces
09:16 matey; yeah, usually when things get taken over, they stay around
09:16 matey; for example, when the usa took over california and texas
09:16 matey; theyre still around
09:16 matey; california still exists-- texas still exists
09:16 TR News; "IMAP is deliberately a high level protocol; it gives you abstract access to your mailboxes." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/IMAPIOTrafficImbalance | Source: uni Toronto
=> ↺ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/IMAPIOTrafficImbalance
09:16 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/IMAPIOTrafficImbalance
09:16 britney; ok i get it
09:16 matey; used to be mexico
09:16 britney; how was the fsf taken over?
09:16 matey; fsf used to be free software
09:17 matey; it was taken over by introducing additional authorities that overrode the leadership
09:17 matey; for example, lieplanet controls all fsf events.
09:17 matey; they wanted to ban the former fsf council
09:17 TR News; "CP/M was special because it separated the physical I/O system (now called BIOS Basic I/O System) " https://matt-rickard.com/the-story-of-cp-m/ | Source: Matt Rickard
=> ↺ https://matt-rickard.com/the-story-of-cp-m/
09:17 TR Bot; The Story of CP/M
09:17 matey; the president defended him
09:17 matey; so they wanted to ban the president from fsf events.
09:17 matey; theyre idiots, for starters
09:17 TR News; "In a statement, the IBM-owned company says Hicks" https://www.itweb.co.za/content/KzQenMjy8lA7Zd2r | Source: IT Web
=> ↺ https://www.itweb.co.za/content/KzQenMjy8lA7Zd2r
09:17 TR Bot; Matt Hicks appointed as Red Hat CEO amid leadership changes | ITWeb
09:18 matey; opportunists, corporate shills, traitors
09:18 matey; in some versions of this story it ended there
09:18 matey; it hasnt ended. what was a coup is now an occupation
09:18 matey; the fsf has entirely caved
09:18 TR News; Open Hardware https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-14-i-built-a-video-game-console.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal
=> ↺ https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-14-i-built-a-video-game-console.html
09:18 TR Bot; I Built a Video Game Console - Bjrn Wrmedal
09:18 matey; against its principles, against freedom, against users, and to the demands of the coup from even years ago
09:19 matey; not to mention that stallman is/will always be closer to silent
09:19 TR News; "PDAs especially early models were much more limited than smartphones." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/13/a-pda-style-mini-pocket-computer/ | Source: Arduino
=> ↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/13/a-pda-style-mini-pocket-computer/
09:19 matey; just like linus (i predicted this)
09:19 TR Bot; A PDA-style mini pocket computer | Arduino Blog
09:19 matey; they did the same thing to torvalds
09:19 TR News; "Typically one installs whiny siren-like server fans that spin at 5000+ rpm, and don't worry much about noise." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/making-noctua-fans-work-quietly-supermicro-motherboard | Source: Jeff Geerling
=> ↺ https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/making-noctua-fans-work-quietly-supermicro-motherboard
09:19 TR Bot; Making Noctua fans work (quietly) with a Supermicro motherboard | Jeff Geerling
09:19 matey; torvalds would have had tso take over
09:19 matey; tso gave a shit about users
09:20 matey; with torvalds sackless, gkh (a complete shill) now owns linux so to speak
09:20 matey; microsoft controls the kernel, microsoft and ibm control the gnu project
09:21 matey; welcome to hell, the free software version
09:21 TR News; rpki-client 7.9 released https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220714121915 | Source: Undeadly
=> ↺ https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220714121915
09:21 TR Bot; rpki-client 7.9 released
09:21 TR News; OpenBGPD 7.5 released https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&m=165788811325412&w=2 | Source: Mailing list ARChives
=> ↺ https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&m=165788811325412&w=2
09:21 TR Bot; 'OpenBGPD 7.5 released' - MARC
09:21 matey; you have the four freedoms on paper, just like the american constitution is on paper
09:21 matey; they mean less in practice at least
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09:22 matey; gkh doesnt care if microsoft takes a giant shit in the linux kernel, and the fsf leadership doesnt care if lieplanet takes a giant shit in the free software movement
09:22 matey; which theyve been doing for years
09:23 matey; next years keynote speaker: joe early
09:23 TR News; "Leaf Node Monitoring is my own open source (GPLv3)" https://raymii.org/s/blog/Whats_coming_in_leaf_node_monitoring_v2022_02.html | Source: Remy Van Elst
=> ↺ https://raymii.org/s/blog/Whats_coming_in_leaf_node_monitoring_v2022_02.html
09:23 TR Bot; coming in the next version of Leaf Node Monitoring? - Raymii.org
09:24 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GYYuyvyr2HY
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GYYuyvyr2HY
09:24 TR Bot; UHF (5/12) Movie CLIP - Saw Demonstration (1989) HD - Invidious
09:24 TR News; Web Browsers: "The modern Web is crap, because its unusable if you value your sanity" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/15/lynx-for-a-matthew-garrett-free-web-browsing-experience-bonus-which-news-sites-are-worth-reading-not-the-bill-gates-ones/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
09:24 TR Bot; Lynx: For a Matthew Garrett-free Web browsing experience. Bonus: Which news sites are worth reading? (Not the Bill Gates ones.) BaronHK's Rants
09:25 matey; Latest Posts
09:25 matey; Post #0:
09:25 matey; Posted on Thursday January 01, 1970
09:25 matey; Post #1:
09:25 matey; Posted on Thursday January 01, 1970
09:25 matey; Post #2:
09:25 matey; Posted on Thursday January 01, 1970
09:25 matey; Post #3:
09:25 TR News; "sqlite3 is a fantastic embedded database for rapid prototyping and resource-constrained environments" https://rubenerd.com/making-interactive-sqlite3-more-useful/ | Source: Ruben Schade
=> ↺ https://rubenerd.com/making-interactive-sqlite3-more-useful/
09:25 TR Bot; Making interactive sqlite3 more useful
09:25 matey; Posted on Thursday January 01, 1970/me refreshes
09:25 TR News; "SQLite has two equality operators: = and IS (= can also be written as ==)." https://evanhahn.com/difference-between-equals-and-is-in-sqlite/ | Source: Evan Hahn
=> ↺ https://evanhahn.com/difference-between-equals-and-is-in-sqlite/
09:25 TR Bot; The difference between "=" and "IS" in SQLite
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; matey: the rss feed timed out
09:26 matey; and time goes back 50 years?
09:26 TR News; "The CrowPi L is a Raspberry Pi-powered laptop built to educate" https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crowpi-l-raspberry-pi-laptop-stem-kit | Source: Tom's Hardware
=> ↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crowpi-l-raspberry-pi-laptop-stem-kit
09:26 TR Bot; CrowPi L Raspberry Pi Laptop Review: A Lean Mean STEM Learning Machine | Tom's Hardware
09:26 matey; its a harmless bug, but its funny
09:26 TR News; "Before I started my research for writing this entry, I would have said that kernel support for '#!' was added in 4.2 BSD." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/ExecAndShebangHistory | Source: uni Toronto
=> ↺ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/ExecAndShebangHistory
09:26 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/ExecAndShebangHistory
09:27 matey; /me refreshes again
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09:27 matey; obviously i know how to get the latest 4 stories from the old/real index
09:28 matey; but i strongly prefer this thing
09:28 TR News; "Recently I've been working with simple/trivial scripting languages" https://blog.steve.fi/so_we_come_to_lisp.html | Source: Steve Kemp
=> ↺ https://blog.steve.fi/so_we_come_to_lisp.html
09:28 TR Bot; So we come to Lisp
09:28 britney; matey, thanks for the information
09:28 matey; still 1970
09:28 TR News; "When that happens, teams face two choices: cut scope or cut corners." https://lucasfcosta.com/2022/07/15/long-term-plans-dont-work.html |
=> ↺ https://lucasfcosta.com/2022/07/15/long-term-plans-dont-work.html
09:28 TR Bot; To build successful software, don't make the plan better. Make it shorter.
09:28 britney; matey, to be clear, we can't trust GNU or FSF anymore?
09:28 matey; britney: the free software will rebuild eventually
09:29 matey; movement ^
09:29 matey; i DONT trust the fsf.
09:29 matey; i consider the new fsf a scam
09:29 matey; they dont stand for what they say. open source never did.
09:29 TR News; "For people who suffer from hearing loss or other auditory issues, maintaining situational awareness can be vital for keeping safe and autonomous." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/14/this-device-detects-different-household-sounds-through-tinyml/ | Source: Arduino
=> ↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/14/this-device-detects-different-household-sounds-through-tinyml/
09:29 TR Bot; This device detects different household sounds through tinyML | Arduino Blog
09:29 matey; gnu... will fall apart
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-15.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:30 matey; rms half-retired from it 11 years ago. with no one steering, it drifts toward microsoft github
09:30 matey; if i wanted microsoft and ibm to control my computing, i could have just stayed with windows
09:30 TR News; "The pattern matching feature is, on the whole, pretty reasonably designed, and people will expect it to behave in reasonable ways." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/sneak-peek-crimes-with-pythons-pattern-matching/ | Source: Buttondown
=> ↺ https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/sneak-peek-crimes-with-pythons-pattern-matching/
09:30 TR Bot; Sneak Peek: Crimes with Python's Pattern Matching Buttondown
09:30 matey; gnu and fsf are farcical
09:30 TR News; "zshbrev allows you to mix zsh code and brev code." https://idiomdrottning.org/zshbrev | Source: Idiomdrottning
=> ↺ https://idiomdrottning.org/zshbrev
09:30 TR Bot; zshbrev
09:30 matey; ive stopped using gnu/linux. and no, i didnt go back to dos or windows (nor can i stand apple)
09:31 britney; matey, what are you running?
09:31 matey; bsd
09:31 matey; usually openbsd
09:31 britney; I was playing around with freebsd
09:31 matey; but first i spent about half a decade trying to salvage gnu/linux-- i finally gave up
09:32 matey; freebsd is the most popular bsd i guess
09:32 matey; i tried it, it wasnt all abd
09:32 matey; bad
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; matey: thanks for spotting that, thanks a lot
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; fixed now
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; the issue was rss validation
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; a shitty non-utf8 char snuck in
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; when I copied something from xchat
09:34 matey; they should just call it unisuck
09:34 britney; the only thing missing in freebsd was element and discord, but i can use a browser for those
09:34 matey; as far as i know, the move from baudot to ascii never made everything break for decades at a time
09:35 matey; but unicode is FANCY (and bullshit)
09:35 matey; granted there are some things i love about it
09:35 matey; but they only count when its not breaking!
09:35 matey; which it does-- ALL THE FUCKING TIME
09:35 matey; how the fuck do you make ascii unstable?
09:35 matey; unicode! hooray!
09:36 matey; text will now suck FOREVER
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; but we have many kinds of hands in many colours
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; latyest unicode/emoji
09:38 matey; its funny because
09:38 matey; unicode breaks your index
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; war is over, lads
09:38 matey; and the unicode in this chat also breaks things
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; we have hands in 10 different skin shades
09:39 matey; all fapping to various encodings that break everything
09:39 matey; JOI-8, JOI-16
09:40 matey; and soon, JOI-32 and 64, because why not
09:40 matey; unicode, the universal standard that never was and never will be
09:41 matey; a standard made of standards, with non-standard availability and non-existing compatibility
09:41 matey; utf stands for "youre texts fucked"
09:42 matey; also your
09:43 matey; but really, that could be an "r" that looks like a "re" in bold or ghotic type
09:43 matey; you think i meant gothic-- no, i meant ghotic
09:44 matey; gh as in rough, o as in women, ti as in friction-- "ghoti" is pronounced "fish"
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09:46 TR News; Storing information on paper using the Pen https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-07-15-pen-to-paper-protocol.html | Source: Data Swamp
=> ↺ https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-07-15-pen-to-paper-protocol.html
09:46 TR Bot; Solene'% : Storing information on paper using the Pen To Paper protocol
09:47 matey;
09:47 TR News; "The resulting observation is called Hotelling's law" https://matt-rickard.com/hotellings-law-differentiation/ | Source: Matt Rickard
=> ↺ https://matt-rickard.com/hotellings-law-differentiation/
09:47 TR Bot; Hotelling's Law and Differentiation
09:47 TR News; "In a 2021 national survey of 1,200 classroom teachers conducted by the Teacher Salary Project" https://edsource.org/updates/teachers-often-work-a-second-job-outside-of-the-classroom |
=> ↺ https://edsource.org/updates/teachers-often-work-a-second-job-outside-of-the-classroom
09:47 TR Bot; Teachers often work a second job outside of the classroom | EdSource
09:47 matey; " "
09:48 TR News; "Microsoft MVP" = reward for lying, promotion of crime, or both
09:48 matey;
09:48 matey; that says "try and read this arseholes"
09:49 matey; the next one says "that says 'try and read this arseholes'"
09:49 matey; then the last one says "unicode is bullshit"
09:49 matey; but its spelled wrong
09:50 matey; i meant to use not
09:50 TR News; social control media addiction https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/california-social-media-addiction-bill-drops-parent-lawsuits-86852570 | Source: ABC
09:50 TR Bot; California social media addiction bill drops parent lawsuits - ABC News
09:50 TR News; ChromeOS is Proprietary-But-Based-on-Gentoo https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2022/7/14/23219443/google-chromeos-not-chrome-os-branding | Source: The Verge
=> ↺ https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2022/7/14/23219443/google-chromeos-not-chrome-os-branding
09:50 TR Bot; Its ChromeOS now, not Chrome OS - The Verge
09:50 TR News; "More people, more often, are finding themselves dealing with the output of Machine-Learning (ML) software." https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/07/13/Weird-ML | Source: Tim Bray
=> ↺ https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/07/13/Weird-ML
09:50 TR Bot; ongoing by Tim Bray Living With Models
09:51 matey; "ghoti" is pronounced "fish" <- but its spelled y-a-b-l-o-n-s-k-i
09:51 TR News; "The findings, which NJIT researchers will present at the Usenix Security Symposium in Boston next month" https://www.wired.com/story/web-deanonymization-side-channel-attack-njit/ | Source: Wired
=> ↺ https://www.wired.com/story/web-deanonymization-side-channel-attack-njit/
09:51 TR Bot; New Attack Can Unmask Anonymous Users on Any Major Browser | WIRED
09:51 TR News; Surveillance https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/san-francisco-police-want-real-time-access-to-private-surveillance-cameras.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
09:51 TR Bot; Francisco Police Want Real-Time Access to Private Surveillance Cameras - Schneier on Security
09:53 matey; the yablonskis are my favourite band. morrissey ftw
09:53 TR News; Nobody inside the CIA was punished for it, except the one who exposed a disgusting programme https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/former-cia-engineer-convicted-of-espionage-in-vault-7-case.html | Source: IT Wire
09:53 TR Bot; - Former CIA engineer convicted of espionage in Vault 7 case
09:53 matey; he changed though, from steven morrissey to mmoorriisseeyy
09:53 TR News; "The report found that official information had been shared through 29 WhatsApp accounts" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3666734/uk-government-ministers-urged-to-not-conduct-business-using-whatsapp.html | Source: Computer World
09:53 TR Bot; government ministers urged to not conduct business using WhatsApp | Computerworld
09:53 TR News; FAKING THEIR SIZE AGAIN: "As part of the test, some Facebook users will have the ability to create up to four additional profiles tied to their original account." https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/14/23219030/facebook-multiple-profiles-meta-active-users | Source: The Verge
=> ↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/14/23219030/facebook-multiple-profiles-meta-active-users
09:53 TR Bot; Facebooks new test allows people to have up to five profiles - The Verge
09:55 TR News; 2022: doing bad things is OK if the rich people like it. Doing GOOD things is a crime... if that embarrasses rich people.
09:55 matey; in a man page its M MM MO OO OR RR RI II IS SS SE EE EY YY
09:56 matey; if you arrange all the letters of MICKEY MOUSE alphabetically, you get MORRISSEY
09:57 matey; a number of people dispute this, but theyre doing it wrong
09:58 matey; it works for me every time
09:59 matey; M-O-R-I-S-E-Y-A-B-C-D-F-G-H-J-K-L-N-P-Q-T-U-V-W-X-Z
10:00 matey; just like the keyboard
10:00 matey; granted MORISE keyboards are pretty rare
10:00 matey; and theyre only available for british layouts obviously
10:01 matey; aaannnd when you tyyyyype on theeeem, they aaaaalwayyys tyyyype like thiiiiiis
10:10 TR News; Watch as the "Microsoft + Open Source" apologists push a narrative https://lunduke.substack.com/p/watch-as-the-microsoft-open-source | Source: Bryan Lunduke
=> ↺ https://lunduke.substack.com/p/watch-as-the-microsoft-open-source
10:10 TR Bot; Watch as the "Microsoft + Open Source" apologists push a narrative
10:14 TR News; Using Log4j to distract from BACK DOORS in proprietary software https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3559470-dhs-review-board-says-it-could-take-years-to-fix-government-software-vulnerability/ | Source: The Hill
10:14 TR Bot; DHS review board says it could take years to fix government software vulnerability | The Hill
10:14 TR News; "Two telecoms firms will be eligible to bid." https://news.err.ee/1608658228/outgoing-it-minister-announces-details-of-third-and-final-5g-auction | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling
10:14 TR Bot; Outgoing IT minister announces details of third and final 5G auction | News | ERR
10:15 TR News; After CoC comes DoD. The DoD deciding who can and cannot contribute to Free software, e.g. you cannot give patches if you oppose US war crimes. https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/07/14/1055894/us-military-sofware-linux-kernel-open-source/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
=> ↺ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/07/14/1055894/us-military-sofware-linux-kernel-open-source/
10:15 TR Bot; The US military wants to understand the most important software on Earth | MIT Technology Review
10:16 TR News; Nowadays the term "toxic" can mean someone who opposes crime and "SJW" is someone who helps corporations distract from their crimes.
10:20 matey; todays lesson: ALL ROMAN LETTERS are arranged alphabetically.
10:20 matey; how the fuck else are you going to arrange them? numerically? by colour? by weight? now, some of them may not be arranged consecutively...
10:20 TR News; Listen to music on Linux with Rhythmbox Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167304
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10:20 TR Bot; Listen to music on Linux with Rhythmbox | Tux Machines
10:22 TR News; IMAP servers can have significant imbalances between disk and network IO Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167305
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10:22 TR Bot; IMAP servers can have significant imbalances between disk and network IO | Tux Machines
10:24 mjg59_; schestowitz: Can you be more explicit about what I'm being paid for, and who's paying me?
10:25 TR News; "went viral and as a result caught the eye of the federal government" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/park-sex-matomoros-porn-producer-criticized/ | Source: Mexico News Daily
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10:25 TR Bot; ( status 503 @ https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/park-sex-matomoros-porn-producer-criticized/ )
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10:26 TR News; "For decades, Central Asian governments have kept a tight grip over information." https://www.rferl.org/a/central-asia-journalism-challenges-press-freedom-live-discussion/31944584.html | Source: RFERL
10:26 TR Bot; 'I Crossed Some Red Lines': What It's Like To Work As A Journalist In Central Asia
10:26 matey; he cant, because hes using the new string method in python 3
10:26 matey; .sortof()
10:26 TR News; "As part of Creative Commons key strategic goal of Better Sharing, we have taken a firm stance against mandatory content filtering on the internet." https://creativecommons.org/2022/07/15/cc-still-opposes-mandatory-filtering-and-so-should-you/ | Source: Creative Commons
=> ↺ https://creativecommons.org/2022/07/15/cc-still-opposes-mandatory-filtering-and-so-should-you/
10:26 TR Bot; CC still opposes mandatory filtering and so should you - Creative Commons
10:29 matey; and "paid" is a 4th dimensional term-- if you ever worked for x and did y, youre paid by x to do y
10:29 TR News; "The report reveals that government-backed [crackers] used various tools to target journalists" https://thehill.com/policy/3558190-state-backed-hackers-targeted-us-based-journalists-in-widespread-spy-campaigns-report/ | Source: The Hill
10:29 TR Bot; State-backed hackers targeted US-based journalists in widespread spy campaigns: report | The Hill
10:29 matey; not anymore, but you were-- and the proof is you did it (maybe)
10:30 matey; "youre" being a contraction of you and are and were and mayb'e
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; a bit of a red herring, as the payslip does not say on it "awarded for implementing machine lockdown inside Linux... for Microisoft"
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; or, as a slaary from torvalds (the Microsoft Foundation) might put is, "awarded for "dick-sucking contest"
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; that was before Microsoft bought the LF
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; and it was acceptable to criticise crimes
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; from the criminals
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; MSFT Corp.
10:32 *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@kmujm4s8xqrtu.irc) has joined #techrights
10:33 TR News; "Proofpoint data since early 2021 shows a sustained effort by APT actors worldwide attempting to target or leverage journalists and media personas" https://www.proofpoint.com/us/blog/threat-insight/above-fold-and-your-inbox-tracing-state-aligned-activity-targeting-journalists |
10:33 TR Bot; the Fold and in Your Inbox: Tracing State-Aligned Activity Targeting Journalists, Media | Proofpoint US
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10:34 TR News; "Eight new petitions were published on Wednesday morning. If a proposal gathers a minimum of 4,500 signatures" https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1941338.html | Source: RTL
=> ↺ https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1941338.html
10:34 TR Bot; RTL Today - 4,500 signatures in hours: Petition calling for two home office days per week reaches threshold
10:35 matey; it was never acceptable, we have always been at war with micronesia
10:35 TR News; "Many lawyers advise their Social Security clients to either delete Facebook and Twitter" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/14/participation-in-facebook-and-twitter-can-and-will-be-used-against-you-you-have-no-right-to-remain-silent-after-youve-already-spoken-if-you-need-an-attorney-good-luck-with-that/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
10:35 TR Bot; Participation in Facebook and Twitter can and will be used against you. You have no right to remain silent after youve already spoken. If you need an attorney, good luck with that. BaronHK's Rants
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; matey: we know who were sent to therapiusts
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; and what for
10:35 matey; as opposied to ibmnesia, which is the convenient forgetting of your own companies war crimes and crimes against humanity
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; the crzazies calim to be victims
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; anbd get a forced apologists
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; because of blackmail from MIcrosoft-controlled org
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; this is not acceptable
10:36 mjg59_; Huh and I went to therapy on my own
10:36 matey; forced apologists is a good typo, because its also true
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; this is why people warned about CoC, which will soon have DoD
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; DoD will say people who oppose crimes against humanity are "toxic"
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; and cannot make a living
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; so that only monsters and mobsters can control the digital realm
10:36 mjg59_; schestowitz: Who is currently paying me to promote fake security?
10:37 matey; imaginationland: clown edition
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; Jo Shields said he went to therapy
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; and then went to Microsoft
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; after pushback
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; he was pushing Microsoft Mono into Debiuan and Ubuntu
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; didn't like the pushback
10:37 mjg59_; schestowitz: Also, why do you keep calling me "Mr"? I have a doctorate.
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; went to see shrinks
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: so use it
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; not in CS
10:38 mjg59_; Is your doctorate in CS?
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; at least I work in the discipline I studied
10:38 matey; mr roy is very progressive, he doesnt believe in titles
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; my doctorate was done with the head of the CS school here
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; my phd meetings were i his office, head of CS dept.
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; friend of Ffarber BTW
10:38 mjg59_; How much CS is there in your thesis?
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; the man who inventoed/started AMR
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; Amulet Group
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; *ARM
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: my thesis is online
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; go read it
10:39 mjg59_; As is mine
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; I also worked for the Amulet Group foir a year
10:39 mjg59_; Have you read it?
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; frontend debugger for xilinx boards
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; to be used by CS students
10:40 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> I also worked for the Amulet Group foir a year <- and netscape
10:40 mjg59_; Yeah uh I've literally been paid to write Linux kernel code, used by CS students in quite a lot of places
10:40 TR News; "Netflix is in major financial crisis." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/15/netflix-thinks-that-the-solution-to-its-financial-woes-is-a-deal-with-microsoft-to-put-ads-into-your-tv-shows/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
10:40 TR Bot; Netflix thinks that the solution to its financial woes is a deal with Microsoft to put ads into your TV shows. BaronHK's Rants
10:40 matey; its true, the pamela jones wikipedia page lists mjg as a kernel author
10:40 matey; theres about 8 people listed and hes one of them
10:41 TR News; Gulag Delists Hundreds of Pirate Bay Domains From UK Search Results.... NOT a search engine... a censorship motor, pumped by oligarchs https://torrentfreak.com/google-delists-hundreds-of-pirate-bay-domains-from-uk-search-results-220715/ | Source: Torrent Freak
10:41 TR Bot; Delists Hundreds of Pirate Bay Domains From UK Search Results * TorrentFreak
10:41 matey; then after that, the 4 sad sacks that wrote gnu, part of the "linux operating system" (thats what it says)
10:41 mjg59_; In any case surely the entire point of free software is that we don't set artificial barriers to participation
10:41 TR News; "A Las Vegas company and its owner have been named in a DISH Network lawsuit targeting pirate IPTV service VNest TV." https://torrentfreak.com/vnest-iptv-faces-us-piracy-lawsuit-after-failing-to-cease-and-desist-220715/ | Source: Torrent Freak
10:41 TR Bot; IPTV Faces US Piracy Lawsuit After Failing to Cease-and-Desist * TorrentFreak
10:41 matey; /me isnt implying that mjg controls what silly wp editors do
10:41 mjg59_; People are able to contribute based on what they know, not which qualifications they have
10:41 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of code you wrote forLinux is already obsolete
10:41 schestowitz[TR]; old hardware, outdated specs
10:42 matey; knowledge is a qualification (just not like that)
10:42 mjg59_; A lot of code Linus wrote for Linux is already obsolete
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; the shim work continues to do MASSIVE harm
10:42 mjg59_; But still
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; (and you know it)
10:42 mjg59_; Simple question
10:42 matey; linus himself is obsolete
10:42 mjg59_; Who is currently paying me to put fake security in Linux?
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; in soime sense
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; he become release manager
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; every sunday afternoon
10:42 matey; we tried adding more cores but it violated the code of conduct (and probably the geneva convention)
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; the mascot types some prose
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; and presses release
10:42 mjg59_; Or ok even simpler question:
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; the media doesn't care
10:42 mjg59_; Am I currently being paid to put fake security in Linux?
10:42 schestowitz[TR]; they only care whether he wears a robe
10:43 schestowitz[TR]; he already saiid he writes no code
10:43 matey; better a robe than nothing
10:43 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some pseudocode from his email client
10:43 matey; robeless is the new serverless
10:43 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: fake security is not just in Linus
10:43 schestowitz[TR]; *Linux
10:43 mjg59_; Well I'd hope I'm not in Linus
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's prevalent an d pervasive now
10:44 mjg59_; Ok
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; real security is mocked
10:44 mjg59_; That doesn't answer my question, though
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; x and s are near
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; QWERFTY
10:44 matey; MORISE
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; the work you did at red hat still haunts you
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; so you wrote that blog post
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; out of guilt, partly
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; to change the narrative
10:45 mjg59_; Am I currently being paid to put fake security in Linux? It's a yes or no question.
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; I have some long article about mIcrosoft media moles coming
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; it's related to all this
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; it's very very long
10:45 matey; roy has another dr in psycholegos
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; from a microsoft whiesleblower
10:45 matey; so hes technically dr mr roy
10:46 schestowitz[TR]; maybe by US stgandards almost professors
10:46 schestowitz[TR]; in the US they call people prof too easily
10:46 schestowitz[TR]; like, if you lecture a little
10:46 schestowitz[TR]; assoc. and asst. prof
10:46 matey; even random people on the street
10:46 matey; "hows it goin prof?"
10:46 mjg59_; Yeah, they call me professor
10:46 schestowitz[TR]; in germany they chain the title
10:47 schestowitz[TR]; in the uk you suck dick for andrew and his mom liz and they give you another title
10:47 mjg59_; So I guess I'm more reputable than your whistleblower
10:47 schestowitz[TR]; my hpd supervisor got CBE
10:47 matey; bugs bunny used to call elmer fudd "doc" and i dont think he even finished high school
10:47 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> in the uk you suck dick for andrew and his mom liz and they give you another title <- i always wondered how that worked
10:48 matey; who is dick though? is he a duke?
10:48 mjg59_; But:
10:48 mjg59_; Am I currently being paid to put fake security in Linux? It's a yes or no question.
10:48 schestowitz[TR]; he's a client of epsrtei
10:48 schestowitz[TR]; and prootector
10:48 schestowitz[TR]; part of the circle
10:48 schestowitz[TR]; also see: bill clinton and bill gates
10:48 matey; /me has played this game before
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; matey: you might hve alzheimer
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; you keep saying the same thing
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; oops
10:49 matey; he cant hear you, hes on another plane than we are
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_:
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; wrong autocomplete,l sorry
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; (same question
10:49 mjg59_; schestowitz: You keep not answering the question
10:49 britney; what drugs are you guys on, i need some of that
10:49 mjg59_; Or do you disagree that it's a yes or no question?
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; yo are a boring person
10:49 matey; britney: several years of well-organised bullshit fumes
10:50 TR News; "Here are several excellent GUI-based tools to help you understand how your storage capacity is used" https://opensource.com/article/22/7/gui-disk-usage-analyzers-linux | Source: OpenSource.com
=> ↺ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/gui-disk-usage-analyzers-linux
10:50 TR Bot; open source GUI disk usage analyzers for Linux | Opensource.com
10:50 mjg59_; My friends would disagree with you, but I understand that that's a difficult thing to provide quantitative values for
10:50 matey; yes theyre toxic. but they make you very cynical
10:50 matey; brb
10:50 *matey has quit (connection closed)
10:50 TR News; Thanks to Raegan and his cult? https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/todd-rokita-child-rape-abortion-case-1383138/
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10:50 TR Bot; Conservatives Respond to Child Rape Arrest by Vilifying Doctors - Rolling Stone
10:50 mjg59_; schestowitz: What is your answer to the question?
10:50 TR News; "Pro" "life" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/right-to-life-force-raped-ohio-girl-have-baby-1383352/
10:50 TR Bot; Raped 10-Year-Old Shouldn't Have Had Abortion, Says Anti-Choice Group - Rolling Stone
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: send me your payslips
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; I might be able to tell
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; need to check company's site and public filings
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; doign fake security on cars is really bad
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; for once thing, they're not secure
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; "self-driving" means remote control
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; even most plane don't implement such lunacy
10:51 mjg59_; My only source of income for the past year has been from Aurora, so my payslips wouldn't show you anything you don't already know
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; see vault8 and 7
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; the CIA does stockpile methods of taking over cars
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; I don't know what Aurora does and which clioents it has
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; I assume it has lincensing clients
10:52 mjg59_; My payslips aren't going to show you that
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; and custom-makes things for them
10:52 mjg59_; Ok
10:52 mjg59_; So it sounds like what you're saying is that you don't know whether or not I'm currently being paid to put fake security in Linux
10:53 mjg59_; Does that seem like a reasonable assessment?
10:53 TR News; "I've tried a variety of music players on Linux, but I keep coming back to Rhythmbox." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/listen-music-rhythmbox-linux | Source: OpenSource.com
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10:53 TR Bot; to music on Linux with Rhythmbox | Opensource.com
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: I don't know if you still peddle fake security
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; but when you lecture people you do a shitty joib
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; and that's why you gotr this job
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; to tell lies
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; or semi-truths
10:53 mjg59_; 08:49 < techrights-news> GNU/Linux IS secure. Windows (all versions) is NOT secure. But in the eyes of "national security" NSA, "security" is code for BACK DOORS. This is what Mr. Matthew GAFAM is promoting and being paid for.
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; about "security"
10:53 *matey (~matey@4vr8jix6sz7uu.irc) has joined #techrights
10:53 mjg59_; "being paid for"
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; while wearing a "security" hat
10:53 mjg59_; What tense is that?
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; when I was 22 I lectures hospitals here on real security
10:53 mjg59_; Is that present tense or is it past tense?
10:54 mjg59_; 10:53 < schestowitz[TR]> but when you lecture people you do a shitty joib
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; you still shill shim and stuff
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; that's inhernetly fake security
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; worse yet,
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; the trust is outsourced to Microsoft
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; I told you 9 years ago it would turn out badly
10:54 matey; > schestowitz >> Bye, DT. Dec 12 08:00
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; and I was right
10:54 mjg59_; I have a certificate that says Berkeley's School of Information gave me a distinguished faculty award
10:54 matey; > schestowitz >> Can you give some context? Dec 12 08:02http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121220.html
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10:54 schestowitz[TR]; we're 100% vindicated on this
10:54 mjg59_; So not everyone thinks I do a shitty job at lecturing
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; many nations move to gnu/linux
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; you are impeding them
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; you save Microsoft billions
10:55 mjg59_; Am I currently being paid to put fake security in Linux?
10:55 matey; > schestowitz > Honestly, I lost my excitement when I saw him trash Stallman
10:55 matey; during Dec 12 08:02
10:55 matey; > schestowitz > cancellation in Sept 2019. I didn't find that video until I'd
10:55 matey; been Dec 12 08:02
10:55 matey; > schestowitz > watching him for a while, or I probably wouldn't have started
10:55 matey; watching Dec 12 08:02
10:55 matey; > schestowitz > in the first place. Dec 12 08:02
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: you are too smart to not understand how "the systen" works
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; in the US you do not get prkmotion for truth
10:55 matey; Techrights-sec By the way, what about DT? He was off to a good start with the
10:55 matey; first few episozed but is appear Dec 12 03:08
10:55 matey; Techrights-sec *ing like he's manipulated or o=therwise falling for
10:55 matey; the M$ trap. Dec 12 03:08
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; you get promotions for toeing the line
10:55 mjg59_; I'm smart enough to be able to tell the difference between the present and past tense
10:55 matey; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-121220.html
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10:55 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, December 12, 2020
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; and in the case of security, it's stuff like back-doored encrypttion and BS 'security;
10:56 mjg59_; Ok
10:56 mjg59_; Look
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/citation-fake-security/
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10:56 TR Bot; Citation/Atlas Security Exam is a Total Farce, But Its Still Good for Entertainment Purposes | Techrights
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; like this shit
10:56 matey; Techrights-sec He may also be projecting his own civility onto M$
10:56 matey; even if it is an inappropriate Dec 12 03:08
10:56 mjg59_; This is an extremely easy question
10:56 mjg59_; Am I currently being paid to put fake security in Linux?
10:56 matey; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-161220.html schestowitz fig threw a tantrum over something people said in IRC
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10:56 matey; about nutrition Dec 16 07:02
10:56 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, December 16, 2020
10:56 matey; schestowitz *I need to think how to approach this. He's a good
10:56 matey; person, but taking time to think how to respond would be better.
10:56 matey; To me, personally, this really came out of nowhere, and not for
10:56 matey; the first time. IIRC, the first time was, I argued that a BSD
10:56 matey; licence would be a regression. (Because it's what companies that
10:56 matey; exploit "free labour" code prefer us to use) Dec 21 18:39
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; matey: I never fully understood this
10:56 mjg59_; And, if you don't know the answer, what did you mean when you said "This is what Mr. Matthew GAFAM is promoting and being paid for."
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; it bothered me that I didn't grasp why it was such a huge deal
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; given that I did not even know what that substance/chemical even was
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: joins us now and secure the software
10:58 mjg59_; I mean
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; *join
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; what you do is the opposite
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; you help companies that undermine it
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; or put back doors inside cars
10:58 matey; schestowitz__ rage directed at everyone at the same time Jan 13 19:48
10:58 mjg59_; Saying that someone's being paid to do something bad when they're not actually being paid to do that thing seems like a lie?
10:58 matey; schestowitz__ including distrotube, derek taylor Jan 13 19:48
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; instead of letting drivers be in control
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; mind you, I did work as a postdoc on car image detectiobn stuff
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; it's free software, runs on Android
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; (old versions of Android anywasy, opencv)
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
10:59 matey; schestowitz__ I hope he decided to come back Jan 13 19:47
10:59 matey; schestowitz__ he insulted Oliva and myself, sort of... Jan 13 19:48
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: you're grasping at straws and have reading comprehension skilsl there
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; the second sentence does not necessarily relate entirely to the first
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; you still do promote shit
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; like pluton and stuff
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; and belittle the harms
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; and then you're proven wrong
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; figuratively handed your own arse
11:00 mjg59_; Am I paid to do that?
11:00 matey; used to get a tad upset if I didn't read
11:00 matey; his emails on the same day Jan 27 12:01
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; and you rare still denying it
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; and downplaying the attacks
11:00 matey; > schestowitz he got very upset at everybody Jan 27 00:04
11:00 matey; > schestowitz oliva, rms, me, derek taylor Jan 27 00:04
11:00 matey; > schestowitz__ vZS1_2: he keeps deleting his email addresses Feb 02 16:15
11:00 matey; > schestowitz__ even the ones he created to scoff at people Feb 02 16:15
11:00 matey; > schestowitz__ rms, oliva, me... Feb 02 16:16
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, oliva was confused at why you had evnted out at him too
11:01 matey; because hes full of shit
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; since he was pretty much on the same side of you, except re copyrightsd
11:01 matey; nope
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; matey: you agree on maybe 95% of things
11:01 mjg59_; schestowitz: Do you have evidence that I am paid to promote security that you consider to be fake?
11:01 matey; he wants unity with traitors
11:01 matey; schestowitz I know he's still around Mar 24 22:18
11:01 matey; schestowitz but he broke up with everyone Mar 24 22:18
11:01 matey; schestowitz and then he sort of wants to come back Mar 24 22:18
11:01 matey; schestowitz but it would refute the breakup wish Mar 24 22:18
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: we chatted about it last month
11:01 matey; <mjg59_> schestowitz: Do you have evidence that I am paid to promote security that you consider to be fake? NO HE JUST MAKES SHIT UP WHEN HE WANTS
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; I asked you if you teach them the snowden stuffna
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; and you admitted you were apprehensive
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; the "plitically-correct" lecturing is not helping
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; it's safer for your job
11:02 matey; no he said he legally cant
11:02 schestowitz[TR]; but it leaves people lkess well ifnromed
11:02 schestowitz[TR]; matey: right
11:02 schestowitz[TR]; and why?
11:02 matey; /me isnt here to defend mjg but at the same time, why not stick to shit he actually said/did
11:02 schestowitz[TR]; because redbricks unis in the us (still called "colleges") are in nbed with the state
11:02 schestowitz[TR]; and work with DARPA etc.
11:02 schestowitz[TR]; matey: going by memory here
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; and he was hellbent on attacking and silencing people who did talk a lotm about Snowden and other revelations
11:03 matey; dishonest or delusional... pick one or two
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; they want to keep those at the margins
11:03 matey; (one or both)
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; brb
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; want to make calls to family
11:03 matey; mafia?
11:04 mjg59_; schestowitz: So you don't think I'm paid to promote Pluton?
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; no, parents
11:04 matey; i once told roy i was going to stop watching distrotube
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; they say I phone them the most
11:04 psydruid; > What we really need is a renascence of efficient operating system software. By modern standards, I was managing to do this with GNU/Linux up to about 8 years ago.
11:04 psydruid; I think there should be something like POSIX but for windowing systems and GUI toolkits, so anyone can write new ones according to some specification. GNU/Linux wasn't the first OS and won't be the last one. It has a life cycle like everything else does.
11:04 matey; he spent months saying i was "enraged" at him
11:04 matey; ive already posted what i said about him when he asked
11:04 matey; there was no rag
11:04 mjg59_; schestowitz: You think I'm merely paid not to tell my students to read classified material that they'd be obliged to report to the government?
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; and my uncle whom I love is in hiospital in FL
11:05 matey; but it became a sort of running theme in irc for MONTHS
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; I was told 30 mins ago
11:05 matey; anytime someone mentioned me, i was angry at dt (nope, didnt give two shits)
11:05 matey; never expressed anger at him
11:05 matey; simply stopped watching him on yt
11:05 mjg59_; And 30 minutes ago you decided to spend time complaining about Linus seeing a therapist
11:05 matey; no angry letters, no angry articles, not even an angry explanation
11:06 matey; complaining about Linus seeing a therapist <- allegedly he was "sent" to one, like in stalinist russia
11:06 mjg59_; Linus is notable for having no agency whatsoever
11:06 mjg59_; I chatted to Linus in 2019
11:06 mjg59_; After all this happened
11:06 mjg59_; (In person, at LCA in Christchurch)
11:07 matey; still your word against roys
11:07 matey; /me gets a crystal ball out
11:07 mjg59_; I said that I really appreciated the work he was doing, and that I knew it was hard, and that I'd been critical of him in the past but he was doing more than I could legitimately have asked him to do
11:08 mjg59_; And he told me that he'd been pretty sure he was right up until the point where he realised that most of the people who were taking his side were MRAs or far-right people
11:08 matey; technically there should be mras
11:08 mjg59_; And then he realised that if those were the people defending him, then maybe he was wrong
11:08 schestowitz[TR]; I got the news at 10:19
11:08 matey; not necessarily THESE mras
11:08 mjg59_; So he went to therapy and he's genuinely a lot fucking better now
11:09 schestowitz[TR]; 50 mins ago
11:09 matey; what kind of therapist changes your politics?
11:09 matey; /me legitimately doesnt know what news
11:09 mjg59_; Oh, I think he means his uncle
11:10 matey; it must have tripped a filter
11:10 mjg59_; Anyway, Roy, I genuinely hope your uncle is ok
11:10 mjg59_; And that you get good news quickly
11:11 matey; /me geniunely doesnt think roy has feelings about his family (and i wouldnt say this unless i was nearly fucking certain-- but its less than 100% of course)
11:11 matey; i have minor evidence too
11:11 matey; not that its important
11:11 matey; of course thats no reason to wish ill on a stranger
11:12 matey; just that it wont emotionally affect anyone here (unless its on someone elses behalf)
11:13 matey; /me bears no ill will towards roys family of course
11:14 matey; So he went to therapy and he's genuinely a lot fucking better now <- except hes more of a pushover too
11:15 matey; when someone guarding the gate becomes a pushover, guess what happens to the gate
11:15 matey; not that it shouldnt have all been up to him, but he was the only one bothering
11:16 matey; you dont necessarily have to be an arsehole to not be a pushover of course, i never said you did
11:16 matey; but when he became "better" he also became more of a pushover as well
11:16 matey; and linux is less of a kernel for it (and more of a dumping ground)
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11:17 matey; trotsky probably would have died a couple years later anyway
11:17 matey; but he certainly got less accomplished with that ice pick in his head
11:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], mjg59_ be like......
11:18 matey; linus was going to retire eventually, but he might have kept his sack attached in the interim
11:18 DaemonFC; "TRUTH Social releases version with changelog 'bugs fixed'."
11:18 DaemonFC; New systemd lands in Fedora, changelog, "Latest bugfix release".
11:18 matey; stallman wasnt really doing anything anymore (no, really) but he might have retained some dignity/influence (relatively)
11:19 matey; these are the same story, they look (very, importantly) different
11:19 matey; theyre really not different
11:19 matey; all were attacked, all were effectively disabled (or killed) by it
11:19 matey; and great things suffered as a result
11:20 matey; though tbh, gnu had already been wrested from his hands
11:20 matey; and the fsf was already useless
11:20 matey; now its much moreso
11:20 matey; and we dont know when they coup actually STARTED, we only know back to 2018
11:20 matey; when it popped its turtlehead out
11:21 matey; i find it difficult to believe that only "mras and the far right" gave a shit about not becoming a corporate dumping ground
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11:21 matey; i didnt know tso was a far right mra
11:22 matey; he stood up to a lot of the same bullshit torvalds did
11:22 matey; but when they took out torvalds, they knocked tso out of successiion
11:22 matey; and put in gkh
11:22 matey; and how the fuck are you going to stop them when youre a disgraced pushover who used to matter
11:23 matey; sorry linus, god mode expired
11:23 matey; (he was a petty god anyway-- petty and dishonest)
11:23 matey; (just not as bad as gkh)
11:23 DaemonFC; "C11 with GNU extensions (aka "gnu11") is now used to build our
11:23 DaemonFC; components. Public API headers are still restricted to ISO C89."
11:23 DaemonFC; :)
11:25 DaemonFC; Why would you restrict the headers to C89 if the compiler will proceed to fail because the .c files are C2011?
11:25 TR News; "The Debix Model A was designed by Polyhex Technology and its based on the NXP NPU i.MX 8M Plus industrial processor" https://linuxgizmos.com/debix-model-a-packs-i-mx-8m-plus-and-mirrors-rpi-form-factor-2/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
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11:25 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/debix-model-a-packs-i-mx-8m-plus-and-mirrors-rpi-form-factor-2/ )
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11:25 matey; when you replace the aresholes running things like gnu and linux with hypocrites and douchebags, you get a former os and a shitty kernel to show for it
11:25 TR News; DARPA stands for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Is DoD renamed from Department of WAR to "Defense" (narrative reversal), then DARPA is really WARPA! War or Weapons Advanced Research Projects Agency
11:25 matey; i wouldnt call it an upgrade, more like a death warrent for two projects that used to be really important
11:26 matey; but as i said, gnu was already...
11:26 TR News; "Find solutions for your modernization and migration challenges" = help us add vendor lock-in through unfamiliar, new complexities https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/modernization-why-is-it-hard | Source: Red Hat Official
=> ↺ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/modernization-why-is-it-hard
11:26 TR Bot; Modernization: Why is it hard?
11:26 matey; im sure the fact that microsoft runs the lf is a coincidence too
11:26 matey; its weird, but that doesnt make it meaningful
11:26 TR News; "This tutorial will explain in step by step how you can install Kubuntu 22.04 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish"." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/how-to-install-kubuntu-2204-with-dualboot-uefi-external-disk-method.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
11:26 TR Bot; How To Install Kubuntu 22.04 with Dualboot, UEFI and External Disk Method
11:27 matey; they were probably just in the neighbourhood and thought "gee, why dont we try to help out?"
11:27 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 Review https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/ubuntu-2204-review-future-of-foss-computing.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
=> ↺ https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/ubuntu-2204-review-future-of-foss-computing.html
11:27 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 Review, A Future of FOSS Computing
11:27 matey; "oh look, seems like torvalds-- ehh, lets leave it alone, its really not our business to get involved"
11:27 TR News; "IPTraf-ng is a console-based Linux network statistics monitoring program that shows information about IP traffic" https://www.tecmint.com/iptraf-ng-linux-network-monitoring/ | Source: TecMint
=> ↺ https://www.tecmint.com/iptraf-ng-linux-network-monitoring/
11:27 TR Bot; IPTraf-ng - A Network Monitoring Tool for Linux
11:27 TR News; "the[s]hill" distracting from Microsoft and its back doors. The "Fake security" mill is at it... https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3559470-dhs-review-board-says-it-could-take-years-to-fix-government-software-vulnerability/
11:27 TR Bot; DHS review board says it could take years to fix government software vulnerability | The Hill
11:28 matey; im sure they only watched with puzzled looks on their faces
11:28 matey; "huh, who knew?"
11:28 TR News; Facebook Is Receiving Sensitive Medical Information from Hospital Websites - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/07/15/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites/ Source: neritam
11:28 TR Bot; Facebook Is Receiving Sensitive Medical Information from Hospital Websites neritam
11:28 matey; "" <- its not like they interfere with companies and organisations (and governments)
11:29 matey; i mean thats the OLD microsoft
11:29 matey; they went to therapy and honestly, theyre just a great company now
11:29 matey; all that dagger and cloak and dagger and dagger and dagger stuff-- microsoft was young and stupid
11:29 matey; theyre grownups now
11:29 matey; just look at steve
11:30 matey; they have a kinder gentler machine gun hand
11:30 matey; "are we talking about knifing the baby?"
11:30 matey; "no, lets just go watch the clippers"
11:31 matey; the most hilarious part though
11:31 matey; is that torvalds went from being supported by the alt-right (nazis) and mras (right wing usually)
11:32 matey; to being supported by ibm (nazis) and microsoft (founded by a friend of jeff epstein)
11:32 matey; thank god for therapy! he used to hang out with a bad crowd
11:32 matey; and ibm doesnt like stallman
11:32 matey; well duh
11:33 matey; im surprised they didnt say they wish they could "give him a shower"
11:33 matey; if he had been around a few decades earlier, they would have
11:33 matey; make his hair nice and clean and... blue tinted
11:34 matey; then he could say "i dont code anymore, but i do have blue hair"
11:34 TR News; Watch as the "Microsoft + Open Source" apologists push a narrative Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167306
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11:34 TR Bot; Watch as the "Microsoft + Open Source" apologists push a narrative | Tux Machines
11:34 matey; "well, hes dead"
11:34 TR News; BSD: UNIX History, rpki-client 7.9, and OpenBGPD 7.5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167307
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11:34 TR News; AYANEO to have their own AYANEO OS based on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167308
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11:35 TR Bot; BSD: UNIX History, rpki-client 7.9, and OpenBGPD 7.5 | Tux Machines
11:35 TR Bot; AYANEO to have their own AYANEO OS based on Linux | Tux Machines
11:36 matey; they could get torvalds out of his robe, and into...
11:36 matey; i mean, hes scandinavian, so probably a uniform
11:36 matey; thank god torvalds went from being supported by wannabe nazis to being supported by actual nazi war criminals
11:37 matey; i mean he really mustve taken a good look in the mirror to change like that
11:37 matey; why the fuck does ibm even exist?
11:37 matey; i guess cancel culture saves the best for last
11:38 TR News; "The company has provided videos to law enforcement, without a warrant or device owner consent, 11 times already this year." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/ring-reveals-they-give-videos-police-without-user-consent-or-warrant | Source: EFF
11:38 TR Bot; Ring Reveals They Give Videos to Police Without User Consent or a Warrant | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:38 matey; "mein kampf though" yeah yeah adolf, get in line buddy-- we still have some autistic coders to lynch
11:39 matey; cancel culture: "ableist!"
11:39 matey; also cancel culture: plays video of stallman playing with his feet for the 500 millionth time
11:41 matey; s/community/bullshit/g
11:41 matey; its not that everyone is full of shit, technically
11:41 matey; the people who arent have figured out its not wise to speak up
11:42 matey; though imo in a lose-lose situation you can do what you want
11:42 matey; youre still fucked
11:42 britney; matey, you should write a book
11:42 psydruid; mein dehomag
11:43 matey; matey, you should write a book <- i did
11:43 matey; but this is more fun
11:44 TR News; [Solved] Termux Package Management Issue Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167309
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11:44 TR Bot; [Solved] Termux Package Management Issue | Tux Machines
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12:08 TR News; WTO and buzzwords, not actual solutions https://therevelator.org/wto-fishing-subsidies/ | Source: The Revelator
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12:08 TR Bot; WTO Agreement Boosts Efforts for a Sustainable Ocean The Revelator
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12:14 TR News; Criminals for Microsoft do this for nefarious, self-serving reasons https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/15/microsoft-mapped-broadband-affordability-gaps-because-the-u-s-government-couldnt-be-bothered-to/ | Source: Techdirt
12:14 TR Bot; Mapped Broadband Affordability Gaps Because The U.S. Government Couldnt Be Bothered To | Techdirt
12:15 TR News; Arizona thinks cops would not walk into you? And then use this BS to arrest you? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/15/arizona-makes-it-illegal-to-record-cops-from-less-than-eight-feet-away/ | Source: Techdirt
12:15 TR Bot; Makes It Illegal To Record Cops From Less Than Eight Feet Away | Techdirt
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12:17 TR News; One America News (OAN) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/15/oan-starts-attacking-verizon-the-last-cable-giant-willing-to-platform-its-conspiratorial-gibberish/ | Source: Techdirt
12:17 TR Bot; Starts Attacking Verizon, The Last Cable Giant Willing To Platform Its Conspiratorial Gibberish | Techdirt
12:20 schestowitz[TR]; TIL, m y dad cannot distinguish between people who run criminal businesses, people who work for criminal businesses, and people who purchase from criminal businesses
12:20 schestowitz[TR]; when people mix all the categories moral relativism is out the window
12:22 TR News; Republican politicians = SPAMMERS https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/15/why-the-gop-wants-to-break-your-spam-filter-gop-candidate-tricked-gullible-voters-into-funding-him-with-misleading-spam-emails/ | some of their SPAM is STILL getting through
12:22 TR Bot; The GOP Wants To Break Your Spam Filter: GOP Candidate Tricked Gullible Voters Into Funding Him With Misleading Spam Emails | Techdirt
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12:25 TR News; Blackmail https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/15/would-meta-really-shut-down-facebook-and-instagram-in-the-eu-over-data-transfer-rules/ | Source: Techdirt
12:25 TR Bot; Meta Really Shut Down Facebook And Instagram In The EU Over Data Transfer Rules? | Techdirt
12:29 TR News; Time to quit GulagTube, folks... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/15/more-issues-with-copyright-enforcement-at-scale-youtube-reinstates-videos-after-false-claims/ | Source: Techdirt
12:29 TR Bot; Issues With Copyright Enforcement At Scale: YouTube Reinstates Videos After False Claims | Techdirt
12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:40 TR News; "The latest Jan. 6 committee hearing on Tuesday examined the role of conspiracy theory communities like 8kun[.]top and TheDonald[.]" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/07/why-8kun-went-offline-during-the-january-6-hearings/ | Source: Krebs On Security
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12:40 TR Bot; Why 8kun Went Offline During the January 6 Hearings Krebs on Security
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12:42 TR News; SSD1306 OLED 128x64 I2C current consumption gemini://lasse.nerdcamp.net/static/ssd1306-oled-current-consumption/index.gmi
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13:05 XRevan86; DaemonFC: "Why would you restrict the headers to C89 if the compiler will proceed to fail because the .c files are C2011?" <- To allow software that uses the library to build with -std=c89.
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13:32 TR News; "Here's a neat little feature of git that I just learnt about. It turns out that git branches can have associated descriptions, although they are local only. All you have to do to set one is to run the command git branch --edit-description which will open your editor, just like writing a commit message." gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/techGuides/gitBranchDescriptions.gmi
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13:34 schestowitz; Unconditional Basic Income gemini://idiomdrottning.org/ubi "Ive long seen UBI as maybe more of a short-term patch solution (it doesnt fix all externalites and environmental problems of market economies), but a desperately needed one.
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13:34 schestowitz; "
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13:36 TR News; "movement dedicated to preserving St. Petersburgs cultural heritage" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/15/a-special-operation-against-city-preservation-advocates | Source: Meduza
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13:36 TR News; "When announcing the February invasion of Ukraine, Vladolf Putler said that one of Russias aims was to denazify the country." https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/15/dying-to-kill | Source: Meduza
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13:38 TR News; "For two decades, Judge Donna Scott Davenport oversaw the illegal arrests and detentions of more than a thousand children in her Rutherford County courtroom." And Pro Publica "sponsor" Bill Gates oversaw the trafficking of thousands of underage people for sex. https://www.propublica.org/article/donna-scott-davenport-judge-lampley-crismon
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13:38 TR Bot; Who Will Replace Judge Donna Scott Davenport? ProPublica
13:39 TR News; "NASA released revolutionary new images of the cosmos this week that were taken by the James Webb Space Telescope" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/15/katie_mack_astonishing_new_space_images | Source: Democracy Now
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13:39 TR Bot; A Look Back in Time: How NASAs Webb Telescope Gives Humanity a Revolutionary New View of Cosmos | Democracy Now!
13:42 TR News; "When building electronic assemblies there is quite often the need to construct custom cables to hook things up." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/15/a-simple-web-based-wiring-harness-tool/ | Source: Hackaday
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13:42 TR Bot; Simple Web-Based Wiring Harness Tool | Hackaday
13:42 TR News; "The average persons perception of a ham radio operator, assuming they even know what that means, is more than likely some graybeard huddled over the knobs of a war-surplus transmitter in the wee small hours of the morning." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/15/helping-secure-amateur-radios-digital-future/ | Source: Hackaday
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13:42 TR Bot; Secure Amateur Radios Digital Future | Hackaday
13:50 TR News; Jeff Geerling https://hackaday.com/2022/07/15/stratum-1-grandmaster-time-server-on-a-budget/ | Source: Hackaday
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13:50 TR Bot; 1 Grandmaster Time Server On A Budget | Hackaday
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13:53 TR News; "Monopolies are slowly killing rural Americaand driving up the price you pay for food." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/15/why-food-prices-are-rising-even-more | Source: Common Dreams
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13:53 TR Bot; Opinion | Why Food Prices Are Rising Even More | Robert Reich
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13:58 TR News; "Post Covid"??? Gee, I didn't know it just ended! https://www.news24.com/citypress/voices/post-covid-south-africa-is-back-in-business-20220715
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13:58 TR Bot; Post Covid, South Africa is back in business | Citypress
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14:17 TR News; Big Business Plot to Overthrow Democratic Rule https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/15/behold-big-business-plot-overthrow-democratic-rule | Source: Common Dreams
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14:17 TR Bot; Opinion | Behold: The Big Business Plot to Overthrow Democratic Rule | Thom Hartmann
14:40 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/funny-pictures-7-7-22-22.jpg
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15:05 TR News; Links 16/07/2022: OpenBGPD 7.5 and AYANEO Adopts GNU/Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/openbgpd-7-5/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/16/openbgpd-7-5/
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15:05 TR Bot; Links 16/07/2022: OpenBGPD 7.5 and AYANEO Adopts GNU/Linux | Techrights
15:09 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167310
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15:09 TR News; Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi CM4 and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167311
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15:10 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167312
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15:10 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:10 TR Bot; Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi CM4 and More | Tux Machines
15:10 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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16:21 TR News; [Meme] The EPOs Kangaroo Tribunals Explained | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-iac-kangaroo-tribunal/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-iac-kangaroo-tribunal/
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16:21 TR Bot; [Meme] The EPOs Kangaroo Tribunals Explained | Techrights
16:22 TR News; New FUD Examples Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167313
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16:22 TR Bot; New FUD Examples | Tux Machines
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16:37 TR News; "Arduino libraries are particularly egregious when it comes to coupling. The SPI code is mixed in with the device logic. I'm also lukewarm to the "abstract interfaces" approach." gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-07-16-decoupling.gmi
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17:00 psydroid2; this Bill and Lolita Foundation funded online supermarket called Picnic had another building destroyed 6 months ago
17:00 psydroid2; https://newsfounded.com/netherlandseng/picnic-building-in-roosendaal-completely-destroyed-by-fire-thousands-of-orders-need-to-be-canceled-inland/
17:00 TR Bot; Picnic building in Roosendaal completely destroyed by fire: Thousands of orders need to be canceled | Inland
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17:18 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> TIL, m y dad cannot distinguish between people who run criminal businesses, people who work for criminal businesses, and people who purchase from criminal businesses
17:18 matey; this is where it begins really
17:19 matey; your parents really dont care about anything at all. they taught you how to care about people. your mother is apathetic and your fathers ideal is of sheer competition
17:20 matey; i think freud is way overrated. pioneering maybe, too easy sometimes, not wrong always
17:21 matey; its nature vs nurture, which genetics have proven is really more about nurture than nature (mostly)
17:21 matey; and some parents would know how to nurture if their lives depended on it
17:21 matey; wouldnt
17:22 matey; your mother is apathetic and your fathers ideal is of sheer competition <- and youve spent your entire life so far trying to impress them
17:22 matey; and while theres probably a dawning of awareness that theres no reaching them, the mould is now set
17:24 matey; can one break a lifetime of bad habits beginning in youth? i believe so. do people generally bother? no. could it possibly be easy? of course not. nothing short of lifelong dedication (the real thing, not the appearances-based version) would make any real difference
17:24 matey; but im pretty confident in saying your mother is apathetic and your fathers ideal is of sheer competition
17:25 matey; everything youve ever said about them gives me this impression
17:25 matey; including when she was sick and your first (public) reaction was to rant (briefly) about how careless she is
17:26 matey; of course, with text-- one can ALWAYS be wrong
17:26 MinceR; they mostly come at night. mostly.
17:27 matey; i mean, to be fair, sometimes when people are upset or concerned they can seem anything but. as some sort of coping mechanism
17:27 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/16/russian-defence-ministry-confirms-strikes-on-dnipro-and-mykolaiv-news "Russian Defence Ministry confirms strikes on Dnipro and Mykolaiv"
17:27 TR Bot; .
17:27 matey; so theres never really "proof"
17:27 matey; they mostly come at night. mostly. <- thats what she said?
17:28 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/16/7358443/
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17:28 TR Bot; Shelling of Nikopol: two dead bodies removed from under the rubble | Ukrainska Pravda
17:30 matey; about how careless she is <- a reasonable point, and at the same time, nothing else was really said about it
17:30 matey; that was the "whole thing"
17:30 matey; like "you had one job!"
17:31 matey; paired with some body language in a photo i saw a year or two ago
17:31 matey; and the setting of that photo
17:32 matey; soem families just seem "staged"-- de facto, not like they did it on purpose per se
17:32 matey; but you know how it is. individually, none of these things could possibly hold up
17:32 matey; too subtle
17:33 matey; youd have to exploit someone for a couple years, throw them under a bus and then have them spend an entire year trying to figure out just what the fucking deal is.
17:34 matey; otherwise they probably wouldnt even notice
17:34 matey; a raised eyebrow and they would think nothing more of it
17:35 matey; and even then, the bias it would naturally produce
17:35 matey; you know. i mean, think nothing of it.
17:39 XRevan86; > Major Windows update is coming in 2024, could be Windows 12 < https://gsmarena.com/windows_12-news-55069.php >
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17:39 TR Bot; Windows update is coming in 2024, could be Windows 12 - GSMArena.com news
17:39 XRevan86; Constant entertainment.
17:45 matey; whats the russian near-equivalent of schaudenfreude, except that (being russian) its a bit less about just enjoying someone else suffering and (of course) as much about being vindicated as anything else?
17:46 matey; "you see, its all like this!"
17:46 matey; wait thats just cynicism. whats the russian word for cynicism?
17:46 matey; "russian"
17:46 matey; /me giggles
17:47 matey; i wondered if i was russian at one point
17:47 matey; i would have to be the product of an affair then, which due to timing im about 99% sure wouldnt have happened
17:47 matey; other than that its plausible enough :)
17:48 XRevan86; matey: The Russian word for cynicism is :)
17:48 XRevan86; So cynism.
17:48 matey; though i would be blood related to a bolshevik then (specifically, not as some kind of witticism)
17:49 matey; to be cynical is no cyn
17:50 matey; i would have to be the product of an affair then <- this wouldnt bother me, it is implausible though under the circumstances
17:52 matey; it would also rob me of a german heritage, which would bother me even less, while doing nothing to the likelihood that im in fact jewish (which is a long story, but unrelated to why my family fled germany during or before the rise of hitler)
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17:52 XRevan86; > whats the russian near-equivalent of schaudenfreude, except that (being russian) its a bit less about just enjoying someone else suffering and (of course) as much about being vindicated as anything else?
17:52 XRevan86; I think I know what ye mean, but no word is coming to me.
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17:53 matey; it may suffice to say that the russian version of schadenfreude refers to something a little more palatable / understandable
17:53 matey; maybe freud was just feeling nasty about his fellow man that day, or maybe he was referring to sociopaths
17:54 XRevan86; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/#Russian
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17:54 TR Bot; - Wiktionary
17:54 matey; (or maybe we are all really horrible people, though somehow i dont think thats what he was getting at)
17:54 matey; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/#Russian <- wiktionary is amazing sometimes
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17:55 matey; even when im down on wikipedia i cant knock it
17:55 XRevan86; What Wiktionary tells me here is that English doesn't have a simpler word for this concept.
17:55 matey; i couldve told you that
17:55 XRevan86; Definitively :)
17:55 matey; though i would consider wiktionary inconclusive
17:56 matey; english is missing a lot of words that would be telling
17:56 matey; for some reason europeans have them :)
17:56 XRevan86; The Russian word is pure Slavic, a compound of evil and being happy.
17:56 matey; maybe because theyuve been around longer than the usa
17:56 matey; but englands been around
17:56 matey; but its still sort of imperial, sort of
17:57 matey; and i think thats the distinction (but its a guess)
17:57 matey; The Russian word is pure Slavic, a compound of evil and being happy. <- nice
17:57 matey; "a compound of evil and being happy."
17:57 XRevan86; A compound analogous to "", which would be an evil smell.
17:59 matey; isnt it a bit funny that the west came from siberia?
17:59 matey; i mean, the same west that plagues putin so?
17:59 XRevan86; People move around.
17:59 matey; of course
17:59 XRevan86; Ultimately we all came from Africa.
18:00 matey; ultimately there was no need for transcontinental flights once upon a time
18:00 matey; though... my guess is that was before humans showed up
18:01 XRevan86; "i mean, the same west that plagues putin so?" <- There are a lot more connections than that.
18:01 matey; sure but this is the funny one
18:04 XRevan86; matey: There's some superficial Soviet revanchism going on, that stuff is kind of based on German philosophy, which is inherently Western.
18:05 XRevan86; It's more of a means to an end, a tool to rally up the older patriotic population.
18:05 XRevan86; But still.
18:06 matey; There's some superficial Soviet revanchism going on, that stuff is kind of based on German philosophy
18:07 matey; the relationship between russia and germany, particularly when "good", has generally been a disaster
18:07 matey; i side with the internationalists. but germany still sucks a lot.
18:07 matey; someday perhaps it will improve
18:08 matey; it almost has to :/
18:08 XRevan86; matey: The current reputation Germany has is more good than bad.
18:09 matey; history is written by the victors
18:09 XRevan86; Not really.
18:09 XRevan86; Not anymore anyway.
18:09 matey; germany may have lost decades ago, but presently it is doing well
18:10 matey; imo the eu is accomplishing much of what hitler really wanted-- not in exactly the same fashion at least
18:10 matey; a french and german europe
18:10 matey; of course a french and german europe will fall apart as sure as a british america did
18:11 matey; but most things look good to enough people on the way "up"
18:11 matey; imo the eu is accomplishing much of what hitler really wanted <- not intended as a compliment, nor am saying theyre as bad as hitler
18:11 matey; but its a source of entertainment, as you put it
18:11 XRevan86; matey: I have a Russian/Ukrainian analogy, but it's too boring to give the whole back-story for it. So just know there is one :D
18:11 matey; and i consider it vindication, though id prefer to be wrong
18:12 matey; the eu is a nasty piece of work in practice, imo
18:12 matey; maybe its better than some things
18:12 matey; im not sure leaving has helped britain at all
18:13 matey; "independence" is a strange concept
18:13 matey; the best reason to leave the eu is their oppressive kowtowing to corporate rule, imo
18:13 matey; britain can do all of the worst on its own, without the eus help
18:13 matey; so what was the point of leaving then?
18:14 matey; why flee the oppression of a union if youre only going to recreate all the same conditions?
18:14 XRevan86; Eh, I'll try. So there's this Russian dissident Maxim Katz, and he caught a lot of bad press in the Ukraine blog-o-sphere for saying that the Russian World could've been a good thing if it were based on economical influence, like a regional centre of influence, but in a good way.
18:14 matey; now they have two problems
18:14 matey; (more than two but you get the idea)
18:15 matey; and britain and the usa are hilarious
18:15 matey; technically the usa makes all its own rules-- theres a lot of truth to that
18:15 XRevan86; "imo the eu is accomplishing much of what hitler really wanted" <- So what I'm saying is, in some way Germany gaining influence is what Hitler wanted, but the connection is not really there.
18:16 XRevan86; It's like seeing the connection between Russia becoming the centre of the region by making everyone rich and Russia trying to be the centre of the region by making war.
18:16 matey; i think germany has too much european influence, which the eu reinforces or creates
18:16 matey; It's like seeing the connection between Russia becoming the centre of the region by making everyone rich and Russia trying to be the centre of the region by making war. <- this assumes we understand each other, and im not sure we do (on this)
18:17 XRevan86; Basically, there's a nuance.
18:17 matey; of course when it comes to european politics
18:17 matey; Basically, there's a nuance. <-
18:17 matey; ha
18:17 matey; when it comes to european politics, i put more stock in your understanding than mine
18:17 matey; but it would be incredibly lazy of me to throw out everything ive considered so far
18:18 matey; and just say "well, this is what xrevan says, so it must be true"
18:18 XRevan86; I'm pretty narrow focused on the more Eastern part though.
18:18 matey; even if it increased the frequency of me being right :) it would be incredibly sloppy and lazy to be right by such means
18:18 matey; theres that as well
18:20 XRevan86; From here the EU looks all right, but my bar may be way lower.
18:20 matey; yeah i think it would have to be
18:20 XRevan86; Some free press? That's already a win.
18:21 matey; free to agree with corporations
18:21 matey; free to say whatever you like to people who dont listen, and have it drowned out by corporate nonsense
18:21 matey; russia uses the state to control information
18:21 matey; the west uses multi-billion-dollar bullshit instead.
18:21 matey; its a different sort of oppression
18:21 matey; but it can achieve similar outcomes
18:22 TR News; ChromeOS Flex now available to run on aging Macs and PCs https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/07/14/chromeos-flex-now-available-to-run-on-aging-macs-and-pcs
18:22 TR Bot; Flex now available to run on aging Macs and PCs | AppleInsider
18:22 matey; im not saying that i prefer russias means, at all
18:22 matey; putlin is one of the creepiest people alive
18:22 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167314
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18:22 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:22 matey; but the west has its own creeps, and many of them
18:22 TR News; The Graphics Special Edition, Volume 3 of the PCLinuxOS Magazine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167315
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18:22 TR Bot; The Graphics Special Edition, Volume 3 of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines
18:23 matey; putin kills high ranking individuals to keep the narrative under control
18:23 matey; both putin and the west will invade entire countries to keep a narrative going
18:23 matey; and the west does it more often
18:24 matey; referring to this as "free press" is accurate
18:24 matey; but a little bit cynical
18:24 matey; youre free to say whatever you want, but if enough people notice you may have your country invaded.
18:25 matey; thats the western free press
18:25 XRevan86; matey: Not always kills, there's a whole spectrum of measures.
18:25 matey; of course
18:25 matey; but you may make too much of the differences
18:26 matey; even though i dont deny they exist
18:26 matey; an improvement on putins regime may not be enough to break out the champagne over
18:27 matey; stallman has a life-long boycott of coca cola because they murdered farmers who tried to form a union
18:27 TR News; Advice for the next dozen Rust GUIs | Raph Leviens blog https://raphlinus.github.io/rust/gui/2022/07/15/next-dozen-guis.html Source: raphlinus
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18:27 TR Bot; Advice for the next dozen Rust GUIs | Raph Leviens blog
18:27 XRevan86; matey: And I think your look is a bit too grim, there's definitely a collective push in the West.
18:27 matey; killercoke.org
18:27 Ariadne; schestowitz[TR]: will have time to fix the XFS issues tonight. also thinking about an infrastructure redesign.
18:27 matey; And I think your look is a bit too grim, there's definitely a collective push in the West. <- no, im aware of this
18:27 matey; hell if anything gives me hope, its that
18:27 schestowitz[TR]; Unconditional Basic Income gemini://idiomdrottning.org/ubi "Ive long seen UBI as maybe more of a short-term patch solution (it doesnt fix all externalites and environmental problems of market economies), but a desperately needed one.
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18:27 schestowitz[TR]; "
18:27 schestowitz[TR]; Unconditional Basic Income gemini://idiomdrottning.org/ubi "Ive long seen UBI as maybe more of a short-term patch solution (it doesnt fix all externalites and environmental problems of market economies), but a desperately needed one.
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18:27 schestowitz[TR]; "
18:27 schestowitz[TR]; excellent!
18:27 schestowitz[TR]; oops
18:28 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: excellent
18:28 Ariadne; when the NAS fucked up, i moved all of my critical services to linode, but this is costing me hundreds per month, so it is time to properly fix this stuff
18:28 XRevan86; matey: There is something I can't say about Russia, where introspection is dead, accountability is dead, reflection is dead.
18:28 matey; "Ive long seen UBI as maybe more of a short-term patch solution (it doesnt fix all externalites and environmental problems of market economies), but a desperately needed one. <- yeah
18:28 Ariadne; no reason to pay hundreds when i have colo
18:28 matey; ubi would be a good step forward
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18:28 matey; but only a step
18:28 Ariadne; UBI stops the bleeding at least
18:29 matey; ubi is even more interesting when libertarians support it
18:29 schestowitz[TR]; at one point you also tried oracle
18:29 matey; (im not sure how many do)
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:30 matey; matey: And I think your look is a bit too grim, there's definitely a collective push in the West. <- i focus on the problems, its true
18:30 matey; but at the same level of the problems, the solutions have proven ineffective
18:31 matey; like trying to solve systemd with devuan
18:31 XRevan86; matey: Everyone's used to the idea that the Vietnam War was actually a bad thing.
18:31 matey; war crimes are a bad thing
18:31 matey; what was good about the vietnam war?
18:32 XRevan86; But that was fought for, and in Russia this reflection is not exactly there.
18:32 XRevan86; matey: Not the point.
18:32 matey; i was trying to understand your point in mentioning it. i still dont get it.
18:32 XRevan86; matey: That the US at least admitted that it made an oopsie.
18:33 XRevan86; And the population understands that.
18:33 matey; maybe the majority of the population understands that
18:33 matey; they tried to give henry kissenger a nobel peace prize
18:33 matey; he wouldnt accept it
18:34 matey; and its nice to admit a mistake
18:34 XRevan86; It's very nice.
18:34 Ariadne; schestowitz[TR]: i still have some running on oracle
18:34 matey; even nicer to learn from it, which iraq proved hasnt happened.
18:34 Ariadne; but honestly i want to ditch wordpress
18:34 matey; it wont learn from iraq either.
18:34 XRevan86; One of the annoying aspects of this war is that Russia is literally not admitting mistakes.
18:35 matey; in fairness wordpress
18:35 Ariadne; russia invading ukraine at all is a mistake
18:35 matey; they did a spectacular job of branding "dumpster fire"
18:35 Ariadne; wordpress has a lot of nice automation
18:35 TR News; "The following content is brought to you by ZDNet partners." ZDNet posting spam as 'articles' for CompTIA today. http://techrights.org/2009/05/29/idg-boosts-act-comptia/
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18:35 TR Bot; IDG, ACT, CompTIA and the Rest of the Microsoft AstroTurf | Techrights
18:35 matey; so will world war iii
18:36 matey; its a shame what they did to it
18:36 matey; lots of short term gains, plunged the whole thing into the toilet
18:36 TR News; Vulkan 1.3.221 is out, but outsourced to Microsoft proprietary prison
18:37 matey; One of the annoying aspects of this war is that Russia is literally not admitting mistakes. <- america did the same in iraq
18:37 XRevan86; Ariadne: Indeed.
18:37 matey; much of the public knew it was a mistake BEFORE the invasian happened
18:37 XRevan86; And if Russia had any accountability, maybe a small group of people wouldn't have been able to make such a horrible decision. That's the big difference.
18:37 matey; during, and for years after
18:37 matey; That's the big difference. <- thats not a difference.
18:38 matey; look at iraq instead of vietnam, and youll understand the west better.
18:38 matey; youre giving it too much credit, even where a little credit is due
18:39 matey; iraq was sheer imperialism, based on complete lies, and people knew it was bullshit from day -100 (before it even happened)
18:39 matey; and it went on for more than a fucking decade, and they called it "mission accomplished" in the first year
18:39 TR News; This smart lock uses voice recognition to control access | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/16/this-smart-lock-uses-voice-recognition-for-access/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/16/this-smart-lock-uses-voice-recognition-for-access/
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18:39 TR Bot; This smart lock uses voice recognition to control access | Arduino Blog
18:40 XRevan86; matey: Even the mainstream admits that the nuclear justification was a lie.
18:40 matey; american forces fired a tank at western journalists. in a hotel.
18:40 matey; this is not NOT-RUSSIA.
18:40 Ariadne; the mission (generating a lot of spend for the military industrial complex) was accomplished tho
18:40 Ariadne; where is the lieeeeee
18:40 matey; imo the real purpose was making sure that iraqi oil was enumerated in american dollars
18:41 Ariadne; that mission was a failure
18:41 matey; they still installed a puppet in charge of the iraqi government
18:41 matey; maybe its a consolation prize
18:42 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167316
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18:42 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
18:42 matey; and halliburton did get a lot of business out of it, but you sort of already said that
18:42 matey; american forces fired a tank at western journalists. in a hotel. <- this sort of thing does happen more often in russia
18:42 matey; but please witness the depths to which the west is willing to stoop when it suits them
18:43 matey; even if it does do it less often, or as i would prefer "by different means, usually"
18:43 TR News; Best Linux distributions to revive an ancient laptop https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/452168-best-linux-distributions-to-revive-an-ancient-laptop.html Source: mybroadband | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//mybroadband.co.za/news/software/452168-best-linux-distributions-to-revive-an-ancient-laptop.html
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18:43 TR Bot; Best Linux distributions to revive an ancient laptop
18:43 matey; they can always poison someones coffee it it pleases them
18:44 matey; only when you have the resources of the west, i guess you have more options.
18:44 TR News; "We were using the mailman2 instance provided by Dreamhost for many years as the mailing list for dgplug. But, over the years many participants had trouble with receiving emails. In the last few years, most emails were landing in spam." https://kushaldas.in/posts/dgplug-mailing-list-has-a-new-home.html
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18:44 TR Bot; dgplug mailing list has a new home
18:44 matey; i do think there was an effort towards a level of integrity that is admirable
18:44 matey; i dont think that applies to the military situation however
18:45 matey; eisenhower said beware the mic
18:45 matey; so i dont think theres been a "western ideal" militarily since the mid 20th century
18:45 matey; and before that it was a mess too, only less so
18:45 TR News; Intel Meteor Lake Integrated Graphics Gets Initial Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167293#comment-34370
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18:45 TR Bot; Initial Intel Meteor Lake iGPU Support Queued for Linux 5.20 | Tux Machines
18:46 matey; admit vietnam was a mistake, and then
18:46 matey; "we move on"
18:46 matey; america can join aa, even say it has a problem
18:47 matey; it will keep drinking and waking up not knowing where it is or who its fighting
18:47 matey; thats progress
18:47 matey; but fwiw
18:47 matey; i see the people fighting this trend
18:47 matey; ive watched them since nearly 20 years ago
18:47 matey; theyre good people
18:48 matey; if they win ill be happy. i havent given up.
18:48 TR News; "Currently I am developing a form for the website which allows users to easily create profiles and add themselves to the website. Since the site is based on Jekyll, a static site generator, the challenge here was how to make it easier for the newcomers to add themselves easily and save the fuss of navigating through the file system" https://medium.com/@asmit2952/gsoc22-update-coding-phase-1-8d2e12ac1723
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18:48 TR Bot; Update Coding Phase 1. Some time has passed since I wrote my | by Asmit Malakannawar | Jul, 2022 | Medium
18:48 matey; we gain nothing from surrendering to this
18:49 TR News; CANDuino v3 - A Microchip ATmega168PA board with CAN bus, Arduino Nano form factor - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/16/canduino-v3-a-microchip-atmega168pa-board-with-can-bus-arduino-nano-form-factor/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
18:49 TR Bot; CANDuino v3 - A Microchip ATmega168PA board with CAN bus, Arduino Nano form factor - CNX Software
18:50 XRevan86; matey: "american forces fired a tank at western journalists. in a hotel." <- "this sort of thing does happen more often in russia" <- And speaking about it is outlawed.
18:51 XRevan86; The definition of a fake is a fake is something that is not sourced from the War Ministry.
18:51 XRevan86; (that's not an exaggeration)
18:52 TR News; Salvaging Old Laptops With GNU/Linux (or ChromeOS) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167317
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18:52 TR Bot; Salvaging Old Laptops With GNU/Linux (or ChromeOS) | Tux Machines
18:56 matey; The definition of a fake is a fake is something that is not sourced from the War Ministry. <- america toys with protecting people from fake news, obama even talked about it
18:56 matey; putin just puts his dick in
18:56 matey; america will spend decades on foreplay
18:57 XRevan86; Ilya Yashin talked about what happened in Bucha and now has criminal charges on dissemination of fakes.
18:57 matey; i understand the distinction
18:57 matey; but i dont think it is a difference of character
18:57 XRevan86; He will likely catch 10 years.
18:57 matey; i think it is a differnce of choice of tactics
18:58 matey; as you said, there are other means
18:58 XRevan86; Gorinov, a Moscow MP, called the war a war, said that children died, and caught 7 years.
18:58 matey; okay, how about this one
18:58 matey; wait for it
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 matey; the american military has psy-op people
18:59 matey; theyre expressly forbidden from working on politicians (and probably their own civilians, but either way they cant work on their own brass)
19:00 matey; at one point, colin powell... anyway...
19:00 matey; a journalist for rolling stone reported on this incredible scandal
19:00 matey; of the military using psy-ops to push a politician towards a war
19:01 matey; his car started doing something like 200 mph and he was killed while driving
19:01 matey; probably a coincidence though
19:02 matey; i mean accidents are common
19:02 XRevan86; * 322 kmph
19:02 XRevan86; That's one beefy engine.
19:02 matey; its been years since i read the story
19:02 matey; and youre probably not missing the point even though to the untrained eye, you could be
19:03 XRevan86; I'm not.
19:03 matey; for at least 20 years, america has been doing its best to catch up to china and russia
19:04 matey; russia is run by a proud stalin wannabe, and china is a monstrous thing like it is today because of direct inspiration by stalin
19:04 XRevan86; Not wrong.
19:04 matey; and america eats it up
19:04 matey; granted, theres a nuance
19:05 matey; but most of the time, neither the fake left or the fake right (because theyre real things-- the republican and democratic parties embody neither) put any sort of stop to "big government" or war crimes, or exploitation of the poor
19:06 matey; they only argue about how we get there and how its presented
19:06 matey; people like obama come in, talk about standing up to corporations, then create an enormous fleet of drone assassins
19:06 matey; poison in coffee would be caveman shit
19:07 matey; hillary clinton talks about killing assange with a drone
19:07 matey; for what?
19:07 matey; for showing footage of a helicopter firing on civilians
19:07 matey; in iraq
19:07 XRevan86; She actually said that?
19:08 matey; i think even roy mentioned it on tr
19:09 matey; She actually said that? <- actually, there seems to be very little evidence she said that
19:09 matey; https://www.inquisitr.com/3559725/did-hillary-clinton-try-to-order-a-drone-strike-against-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-controversial-conspiracy-theory-site-makes-bombshell-claim/
19:09 TR Bot; Hillary Clinton Try To Order A Drone Strike Against WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange? Controversial Conspiracy Theory Site Makes Bombshell Claim - Inquisitr
19:09 matey; controversial-conspiracy-theory-site-
19:09 matey; /me shrugs
19:10 matey; still, if you look at what happened to assange
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; there was a plan to assasssinate
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; the CIA did not deny the reports
19:10 matey; theyre torturing him to death anyway
19:10 matey; while he waits to see if he will be extradited so they can torture him to death even worse
19:11 matey; i havent heard anything about that in a year
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; they did that to manning too
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; forced to sleep naked and stuff
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; messing with people's heads to the core
19:11 matey; with constant light on her face
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; or causing heart conditionbs
19:11 matey; sleep deprivation
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; inflamed joints, severe loss of weight.
19:12 matey; i imagine the west tortures more people than russia
19:12 matey; but its a guess, nothing more
19:12 XRevan86; matey: I seriously doubt that.
19:12 matey; im not saying one is better, though maybe you can argue the west is better
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; "special operations"
19:12 matey; both have many choices about how they do evil
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; not just yet... "enhanced" interrogation
19:12 matey; and they make different choices
19:12 XRevan86; matey: Torture is incredibly widespread in Russia.
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; and belarus
19:13 XRevan86; It's not even a dissident thing, it's everywhere.
19:13 matey; you wont be too surprised that its the first ive heard of it
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/belarus-torture.png
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19:13 matey; thats some epo thing i gather
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
19:13 matey; yeah
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; epo outsources to minskl
19:14 schestowitz[TR]; epo president had a breakdown over our series
19:14 schestowitz[TR]; starting shouting curse words at everyone
19:15 schestowitz[TR]; we have 2 upcoming series on Microsoft
19:15 matey; im half inclined to believe that
19:15 matey; its certainly possible
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19:15 TR News; The Graphics Special Edition, Volume 3 of the PCLinuxOS Magazine [pdf] http://pclosmag.com/download.php?f=PCLOSMagGraphicsSE3.pdf
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19:15 matey; we have 2 upcoming series on Microsoft <- if only... there was... some way... to get... away from them
19:16 schestowitz[TR]; EPO refuses to release the recording
19:16 matey; too many elipses, thats just the wheelchair kid from malcolm in the middle
19:16 schestowitz[TR]; they were asked by staff
19:16 schestowitz[TR]; in a survey 94% said they wanted the recording released
19:16 matey; if only there was... some way... to get away from them fixed
19:16 matey; the other 6% said they wanted a pay rise
19:17 schestowitz[TR]; no
19:17 schestowitz[TR]; neutral
19:17 schestowitz[TR]; i think 1 or 2% were inclined to say, no, forget abouyt it
19:18 schestowitz[TR]; but the epic tantrums became office jokes
19:18 matey; at any rate, i think the world in general knows that russia is worse than the usa
19:18 matey; i only think you underestimate the ambition of the latter to be more and more like russia and china-- even if it always lags behind
19:18 schestowitz[TR]; the only people moving from usa to russia do so to escape usa
19:19 matey; im not even sure about always, but it seems more than likely that it wont get as bad as russia or china
19:19 schestowitz[TR]; many russians move to usa not to flee for their lives
19:19 XRevan86; matey: I think ye underestimate just how big the distance is.
19:19 schestowitz[TR]; but searching for a better life
19:19 matey; I think ye underestimate just how big the distance is. <- oh thats possible too
19:19 matey; but for me, the distances is not the point
19:19 matey; the point is the ambition to become worse and worse
19:19 matey; and learn from the worst examples-- and then emulate them
19:19 matey; even if its only gulag-lite(tm)
19:20 matey; even if its 1000 times better (which i doubt)
19:20 matey; maybe 100, who knows
19:20 matey; these things arent easy to quantify-- some people try, its impressive
19:20 XRevan86; The way I see it, the politics are all about checks and balances, there's always the tendency to go bad, and that should be pushed against.
19:21 TR News; SpellBinding: ABILUSR Wordo: CORNU gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-16.gmi
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19:21 matey; i think youre mixing up the marketing with the product
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19:21 matey; https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/07/us-imperialism-from-manifest-destiny-to-the-new-american-century/
19:21 TR Bot; US Imperialism from Manifest Destiny to the New American Century | Dissident Voice
19:22 TR News; "In my humble opinion paying cash is a nice puzzle piece of resistance. I routinely pay cash for almost everything, that I buy locally. I have bought a number of fairly expensive things (for my personal definition of fairly expensive, that is) and payed several of them cash, e.g. a new motorcycle" gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220716-re-cash-ocalypse.gmi
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19:22 matey; LOL https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/02/28/without-american-imperialism-and-its-evils-the-world-faces-anarchy/
19:22 TR Bot; Without American imperialism and its evils, the world faces anarchy
19:22 XRevan86; Russia has bad tendencies, Ukraine has bad tendencies, the US has bad tendencies.
19:22 matey; free press (free to agree)
19:22 matey; without-american-imperialism-and-its-evils-the-world-faces-anarchy BAHAHAHA
19:22 matey; pax romana!
19:22 XRevan86; If the activism is weak or oppressed, then they will spread unchecked and wreak havoc.
19:23 TR News; "I've been, stupidly, using an email account that came with a free web page account. I figured - what harm could it be, it's free, it's been around... Now I want to get rid of it, but I am away from home, and there are some accounts I can't access to update the email address... So I am stuck." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-16.thunderbird.gmi
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19:23 XRevan86; Russia is oppressed and went mad again.
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19:23 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_romana The Pax Romana (Latin for "Roman Peace") is a roughly 200-year-long timespan of Roman history which is identified as a period and as a golden age of increased as well as sustained Roman imperialism, relative peace and order, prosperous stability, hegemonial power and regional expansion, despite a number of revolts and wars, and continuing competition with Parthia.
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19:23 TR Bot; Pax Romana - Wikipedia
19:24 matey; a roughly 200-year-long timespan
19:24 TR News; "Top shows that, running in the background with automatic email fetching shut off -- in other words, doing absolutely nothing -- it eats up about 5% CPU and 5% memory. That is a ridiculously large fraction of my machine -- for doing absolutely nothing. I have 8GB RAM), so the sleeping beauty needs 400 MB to do nothing. Is this a bad joke?" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-16.thunderbird.gmi
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19:24 matey; welp, that was fun
19:24 XRevan86; And checks and balances is something that democracies tend to have figured out significantly better than dictatorships, and as such more successful as nations.
19:25 matey; The prominence of the concept of the Pax Romana led to historians coining variants of the term to describe other systems of relative peace that have been established, attempted, or argued to have existed. Some variants include:[1] / / Pax Americana / Pax Britannica / Pax Europaea / Pax Hispanica / Pax Mongolica / Pax Ottomana / Pax Sinica / Pax Khazarica / Pax Syriana / Pax Sovietica / Pax Mafiosa
19:25 matey; and as such more successful as nations.
19:26 matey; the purpose of evolution was to create the jellyfish
19:26 XRevan86; Pax Putina would be roughly 10 years.
19:26 matey; i wouldnt give it that long
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19:39 schestowitz[TR]; the purpose of evolution was to create the jellyfish the purpose of evolution was to create the jellyfish
19:40 schestowitz[TR]; in iraq they now have what they called "jelly babies"
19:40 schestowitz[TR]; they say depleted uranium in the American invasion played a role in many of these births
19:40 schestowitz[TR]; US liberated Iraq and brought jelly paradise
19:41 schestowitz[TR]; women taking out jelly babies from their genitals while Bush II says "mission accomplished"
19:41 XRevan86; The purpose of software evolution was to create GNU Emacs, it's all downhill from there.
19:43 schestowitz[TR]; software evolution was maintained by team mono
19:43 schestowitz[TR]; and novell
19:43 schestowitz[TR]; it dodn't get far
19:43 schestowitz[TR]; thunderbird id still better than evolution
19:44 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of companies abandoned native email software altogether
19:44 psydroid2; there is this narrative that has been peddled lately that evolution has improved and is now better than thunderbird
19:45 psydroid2; I don't believe it at all
19:46 TR News; Gulag cannot wean itself off Linux and GPL, but it keeps trying https://9to5google.com/2022/07/15/android-removes-fuchsia-code-starnix/
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19:46 TR Bot; removes Fuchsia code as Starnix project progresses - 9to5Google
19:48 TR News; AMD RDNA 3 GPUs Get SubVP Feature In AMDGPU For Linux 5.20 https://wccftech.com/amd-rdna-3-gpus-get-subvp-feature-in-amdgpu-for-linux-5-20/ Source: wccftech | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//wccftech.com/amd-rdna-3-gpus-get-subvp-feature-in-amdgpu-for-linux-5-20/
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19:48 TR Bot; AMD RDNA 3 GPUs Get SubVP Feature In AMDGPU For Linux 5.20
19:50 TR News; Chairman Sir Paul Mahoney (OBE) explains the workings of the EPOs Internal Appeals Committee to a new member http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/epo-iac-kangaroo-tribunal/
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19:50 TR Bot; [Meme] The EPOs Kangaroo Tribunals Explained | Techrights
19:55 MinceR; 16 182742 < matey> they mostly come at night. mostly. <- thats what she said?
19:55 MinceR; yes it is
19:55 MinceR; (she's Newt, iirc)
20:00 TR News; Breath Lets You Run Regular Ubuntu on Modern Intel Chromebooks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167318
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20:00 TR Bot; Breath Lets You Run Regular Ubuntu on Modern Intel Chromebooks | Tux Machines
20:00 TR News; Russ Allbery: INN 2.7.0 https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2022-07/001.html
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20:00 TR Bot; Eagle's Path: INN 2.7.0 (2022-07-16)
20:01 TR News; "GNU rush version 2.3 is available for download. This is a bug-fixing release." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10205
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20:01 TR Bot; GNU Rush - News: GNU rush version 2.3 [Savannah]
20:01 britney; claws-mail master race
20:02 britney; thunderbird is bloated af
20:02 britney; you also need an addon to export to mbox
20:03 schestowitz[TR]; thunderbird gotr very bloated
20:03 britney; thunderbird now comes with a matrix client
20:03 schestowitz[TR]; I need to allocate like 2.5 GB of RAM to start it
20:03 schestowitz[TR]; then it takes half a gig
20:03 schestowitz[TR]; since around 20017
20:03 britney; you should try out claws-mail, its lightweight
20:04 schestowitz[TR]; I used to run thunderbird on a laptop with 32 gb of ram for the whole system
20:04 schestowitz[TR]; 1990s laptop
20:04 britney; 32gb ram on a 1990s laptop? wth
20:04 schestowitz[TR]; oops
20:04 schestowitz[TR]; 32mb
20:04 britney; i liked it better when it was netscape mail
20:04 schestowitz[TR]; now laptops exist with 32gb
20:05 schestowitz[TR]; and they're not necessary SO high end
20:05 schestowitz[TR]; *necessarily
20:05 schestowitz[TR]; programmers used to have practical contraints
20:05 schestowitz[TR]; toolkits also
20:06 schestowitz[TR]; now you have gnome tryint to force you to use opengl
20:06 schestowitz[TR]; for very basic things
20:06 schestowitz[TR]; because of gtk4 or 5
20:06 schestowitz[TR]; masybe even some of gtk3
20:06 schestowitz[TR]; the move you give them, the more they tke
20:06 schestowitz[TR]; never caring about old computers
20:06 britney; claws-mail is gtk+
20:06 schestowitz[TR]; *more you give them... take
20:07 britney; I use evolution because its less bloated than thunderbird and supports dark mode
20:07 britney; claws-mail would be ideal but I hate light mode
20:08 britney; at least hexchat lets me change the colour scheme
20:08 schestowitz[TR]; :-)
20:09 britney; evolution also supports mbox export without an addon that might randomly get disabled in an update
20:10 britney; my laptop is a beast for 2013
20:11 britney; Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4310M CPU @ 2.70GHz, Mesa Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600, 16GB ram, 240GB mSATA SSD
20:11 britney; everything runs super fast
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like it
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; how about power usage?
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; i mean, don't get me wonr [enter pause]
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; butmost of the time our PCs are idle
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; maybe 95% of the time, depends on the personb
20:13 britney; its probably pretty good, i dont really have a way to measure it
20:14 schestowitz[TR]; there are tools for this
20:14 schestowitz[TR]; but never mind
20:17 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167319
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20:17 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:21 britney; damn baloo file extractor
20:22 britney; i use gnome, not sure how that turned itself on
20:22 MinceR; 16 201622 < matey> too many elipses, thats just the wheelchair kid from malcolm in the middle
20:22 MinceR; use commas instead
20:22 britney; maybe when i ran kristal
20:22 MinceR; https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/William_Shatner_Syndrome
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20:22 TR Bot; William Shatner Syndrome - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
20:26 MinceR; (no audio) https://apina.biz/190646.mp4?mode=sfw
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20:26 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190646.mp4
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20:30 psydroid2; baloo, tracker and more of that crap
20:30 psydroid2; I don't know why they keep forcing it
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; it's not good
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; for two reasons
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; 1) it's bloat
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; 2) many people don't want or need it
20:34 TR News; Amazons Alexa is wiretapping; better aim for something that processes data locally, if at all https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/16/this-smart-lock-uses-voice-recognition-for-access/
=> ↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/16/this-smart-lock-uses-voice-recognition-for-access/
20:34 TR Bot; This smart lock uses voice recognition to control access | Arduino Blog
20:40 TR News; AMD RDNA 3 GPUs Get SubVP Feature In AMDGPU For Linux 5.20 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167322
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20:40 TR Bot; AMD RDNA 3 GPUs Get SubVP Feature In AMDGPU For Linux 5.20 | Tux Machines
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20:50 TR News; Pop OS 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Updates Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167323
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20:50 TR Bot; Pop OS 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Updates | Tux Machines
20:52 TR News; Quanta Magazine: The Computer Scientist Who Parlays Failures Into Breakthroughs https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-computer-scientist-who-parlays-failures-into-breakthroughs-20220613/ Source: quantamagazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.quantamagazine.org/the-computer-scientist-who-parlays-failures-into-breakthroughs-20220613/
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20:52 TR Bot; Quanta Magazine
20:54 TR News; Many companies scam their own staff by tricking them into "investing" their salaries (savings) in the company, artificially inflating a fake valuation that's bound to collapse, along with financial rewards supposedly having been given to staff. It's like companies buying back their own shares -- a form of embezzlement.
20:55 TR News; How do you like your "smart" car now, PUNK? https://www.vice.com/en/article/z34xnw/hackers-say-they-can-unlock-and-start-honda-cars-remotely
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20:55 TR Bot; Hackers Say They Can Unlock and Start Honda Cars Remotely
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20:56 TR News; "Tiny robots made of metallic powder stuck to plastic tape and controlled by magnetic fields could one day crawl inside internal organs and repair injuries" https://www.newscientist.com/article/2328467-robot-made-of-sticky-tape-and-metal-powder-could-crawl-on-your-organs/
20:56 TR Bot; Robot made of sticky tape and metal powder could crawl on your organs | New Scientist
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
21:11 TR News; "Lately I have been feeling that now that my only sibling is dead I'm more alone in the world." gemini://rooster.smol.pub/alone
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21:12 TR News; Links 16/07/2022: Recycling Old PCs With GNU/Linux, GNU Rush 2.3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/gnu-rush-2-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/16/gnu-rush-2-3/
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21:12 TR Bot; Links 16/07/2022: Recycling Old PCs With GNU/Linux, GNU Rush 2.3 | Techrights
21:12 britney; psydroid2, schestowitz[TR], it was using cpu and making my laptop heat up
21:13 britney; i don't even use KDE
21:13 TR News; Apparently Nat Friedman lost a sibling to suicide and there's more to it... not touching it though, very sensitive subject
21:13 britney; i killed the process and then found a command to disable it
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; ballo? tracker? akonadi?
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; *ballo
21:13 britney; baloo
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; >baloo
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; it gives people bad initial experience of kde
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; it starts scanning all their files
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; slowing everything down
21:14 britney; "balooctl disable"
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; nepumok used to do the same
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; in fedora it caused me lots of trouble
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; untill I killed it off forcibly
21:15 psydroid2; sometimes the behaviour of these daemons makes me think they are backdoors into the system
21:16 psydroid2; no one ever asked for them
21:16 TR News; Strange No weekend edition for CounterPunch this weekend. Rather unusual.
21:16 psydroid2; and even if there is a use for them, they shouldn't be enabled by default
21:17 psydroid2; britney, yes, it's terrible
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; they study your files
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; and make summaries
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; dossiers of sorts
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; "deep-mining"
21:20 britney; and what if it crashes? does it send your personal data to someone in the bug report?
21:22 britney; at least it was easy to turn off
21:22 britney; my bigger question is how it got enabled in the first place when I use gnome and its a KDE thing
21:22 TR News; Bill C-11 Now a Trade Issue: U.S. Warns Canada About Online Streaming Act Concerns - Michael Geist https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/bill-c-11-now-a-trade-issue-u-s-warns-canada-about-online-streaming-act-concerns/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/bill-c-11-now-a-trade-issue-u-s-warns-canada-about-online-streaming-act-concerns/
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21:22 TR Bot; Bill C-11 Now a Trade Issue: U.S. Warns Canada About Online Streaming Act Concerns - Michael Geist
21:22 TR News; The early battle of the Pascals left Microsoft an opening Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167324
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167324
21:22 TR Bot; The early battle of the Pascals left Microsoft an opening | Tux Machines
21:22 britney; there was that KDE Gemini client I recently installed, kristal?
21:23 psydroid2; Kristall, yes
21:23 schestowitz[TR]; qt
21:24 britney; maybe loading kristall caused baloo to start up
21:24 britney; i have no idea
21:24 psydroid2; maybe Baloo got installed as a dependency of Kristall
21:25 psydroid2; which is one of the ways in which KDE rubs me the wrong way
21:25 TR News; Universal USB Installer 2.0.1.4 - Neowin https://www.neowin.net/news/universal-usb-installer-2014/ Source: neowin | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.neowin.net/news/universal-usb-installer-2014/
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21:25 psydroid2; not just that
21:25 TR Bot; Universal USB Installer 2.0.1.4 - Neowin
21:25 britney; its not a dependency
21:26 schestowitz[TR]; kristall is qt
21:26 schestowitz[TR]; it won't bring in the whole of kde and baloo
21:26 schestowitz[TR]; unless some depsn chain is very utterly broken
21:28 TR News; "Up front, CodeMirror 6 is a great piece of software. But holy hell it's hard to wrap my head around this paradigm. I understand the why of this approach, but learning how to interact with it is rough. This is a combo of my own inexperience here and a lack of content." gemini://tbeseda.smol.pub/cm6-docs
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21:28 britney; its a mystery
21:28 britney; im looking at the package in the arch database and nothing i have installed requires baloo
21:28 britney; its probably safe to just remove it
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; baloo is necessity of life
21:29 britney; i can't remove it, plasma-desktop requires it
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:30 schestowitz[TR]; so you have plasma
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; it's not kristall that brought in the whole of plasma5
21:30 britney; true, i did have kde installed
21:30 britney; but i didnt use it
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; some kde sofdtware like kmail needs akonadi
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; hence baloo
21:30 britney; now its gone
21:30 britney; i never ran kmail
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; and kalendar is chained to kmail
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; korganiser too
21:31 britney; the only kde apps i still use is kleopatra and k3b
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21:33 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> baloo is necessity of life
21:33 DaemonFC; The Jungle Book joke?
21:34 britney; maybe k3b made baloo start up
21:34 psydroid2; for Windows they promote installing KDE applications through the Microsoft Store and only make nightlies available for download via the site
21:34 britney; anyway, all KDE has been removed from my system
21:35 psydroid2; that's what I wanted to say in relation to DaemonFC's blog article
21:35 britney; psydroid2, does the KDE for Windows installer still exist? I remember using that to install KDE apps on Windows.
21:36 psydroid2; britney, I don't think it does
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; for Windows they promote installing KDE applications through the Microsoft Store
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft shut down ALL the stores
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; 2020
21:36 psydroid2; I just wanted my sister to be able to download a Krita build for Windows
21:37 psydroid2; Windows Store is now called Microsoft Store
21:37 DaemonFC; The Windows Store.
21:37 DaemonFC; That's not confusing.
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: Surface never died
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; it turned from "big ass tablle"
21:37 DaemonFC; They still sell them at Best Buy.
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; to failing "ms"-branded chinese hardware
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; good luck finding artilces on the REAL surface
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2009/04/25/microsoft-censorship-on-the-surface/
=> http://techrights.org/2009/04/25/microsoft-censorship-on-the-surface/
21:38 TR Bot; Negative Review of MS Surface Published, Microsoft Contacts Blogger and Has It Removed | Techrights
21:38 psydroid2; so now it's small enough to fit under or perhaps even in your ass?
21:38 psydroid2; something's hiding under the surface
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; "so Microsoft, how about that EPIC failure with Surface?"
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft: "oh, surgface is STILL around"
21:39 MinceR; is that the itanium version?
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; just like Microsoft Store"
21:39 MinceR; https://apina.biz/190641.jpeg?mode=sfw
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21:46 TR News; "As the name is self-explanatory, pascal strings are an essential constituent of the PASCAL programming language. Pascal is a computer programming language that Niklaus Wirth of Switzerland created around 1970 to teach organized programming." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/what-are-pascal-strings/
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21:46 TR Bot; What are Pascal Strings ? - GeeksforGeeks
21:47 TR News; Light PDF Editing is coming to Firefox Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167325
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21:47 TR Bot; Light PDF Editing is coming to Firefox | Tux Machines
21:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2237430/posts
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21:47 TR Bot; Skin Deep Usability First Experience with Microsoft's "Surface" Touch Computer
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; /f-chat/2237430/posts
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; afterwards comes f-smoke
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; I assume forum chat
21:50 TR News; "In this edition of "From Noob To Power User" I will be taking MX Linux and customizing it slightly to fit my workflow. This will include theming, some software installations, setting keybindings, shell aliases and some other essential changes (in my opinion)." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IsnSSY2vTXQ
=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IsnSSY2vTXQ
21:50 TR Bot; From Noob To Power User With MX Linux - Invidious
21:51 TR News; Petter Reinholdtsen: Automatic LinuxCNC servo PID tuning? https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_LinuxCNC_servo_PID_tuning_.html Source: people | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_LinuxCNC_servo_PID_tuning_.html
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21:51 TR Bot; Petter Reinholdtsen: Automatic LinuxCNC servo PID tuning?
21:52 TR News; Thomas Goirand: My work during debcamp http://thomas.goirand.fr/blog/?p=402
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21:52 TR Bot; My work during debcamp Zigo's blog
21:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I put it in archive.org
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; good
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/inside-city-400-contracts-training-and-arrivals-63793505
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22:05 TR Bot; Inside City 400: A fan-tastic welcome, new deals and the return of pre-season!
22:07 TR News; ROS2 Easy-to-Adopt Perception and Manipulation Modules Open Sourced " ROS-Industrial https://rosindustrial.org/news/2021/7/18/ros2-easy-to-adopt-perception-and-manipulation-modules-open-sourced-lfdwc Source: rosindustrial |
22:07 TR Bot; ROS2 Easy-to-Adopt Perception and Manipulation Modules Open Sourced ROS-Industrial
22:09 TR News; "Today we published release 4.6.3 of the Authoritative Server. It contains two bug fixes, and marks the arrival of Ubuntu Jammy packages for the 4.6 branch." https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/07/13/powerdns-authoritative-server-4-6-3/
=> ↺ https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/07/13/powerdns-authoritative-server-4-6-3/
22:09 TR Bot; PowerDNS Authoritative Server 4.6.3 | PowerDNS Blog
22:16 MinceR; https://apina.biz/190638.jpeg?mode=sfw
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22:20 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: will be back in 2.5 hours, need to take nap before work
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; we made another round of backup in case any file system issue results in loss
22:21 TR News; "All of this is well known to old Lisp nerds; move along, move along. And it might come across as gatekeepy or complicated to new folks. So I'm looking at you medium-experienced peeps for this one!" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/guile-defmacro
=> ↺ gemini://idiomdrottning.org/guile-defmacro
22:22 britney; schestowitz[TR], whats being migrated?
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; tuxmachines
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; static site
22:22 britney; you run tuxmachines?
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; bbl
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; my wife and I and other people
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; it's a very old site
22:23 britney; cool, i wont tie you up any longer
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; 170000 pages
22:23 britney; oh wow!
22:25 britney; im gonna link to it on my site
22:29 britney; https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/
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22:29 TR Bot; Cerberus Investigations
22:29 britney; NeoCities is pretty cool, they support IPFS
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
23:02 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/1524453466382475265-scaled.jpg
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23:12 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/16/today-walmart-grocery-pickup-gave-my-order-to-someone-else-billed-me-and-then-had-to-go-pick-it-again-while-i-waited-in-my-car-bonus-lawyer-says-away-from-self-checkouts-or-you-risk-jail/
23:12 TR Bot; Today, Walmart Grocery Pickup gave my order to someone else, billed me, and then had to go pick it again while I waited in my car. Bonus: Lawyer says away from self-checkouts or you risk jail. BaronHK's Rants
23:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
23:12 britney; DaemonFC, you have a pretty good blog
23:19 DaemonFC; Thanks
23:20 britney; DaemonFC, "but in reality they just arrest people and arm wrestle the guilty and the innocent alike into plea deals." this is so true
23:20 britney; i got arrested for harassment because I served my ex employer legal papers
23:20 britney; they didn't drop the charge until i started charging people for obstructing justice
23:21 britney; and im a paralegal
23:21 britney; thats pretty close to being a lawyer
23:21 britney; i guess i could have hired a lawyer to serve papers, but i was self rep
23:21 britney; i had every right to do so and it was required by the rules of the court
23:22 britney; they tried to get me to take all kinds of deals but i wouldn't budge
23:22 britney; worst yet, they were dragging me into a jurisdiction 4 hours away from where i lived at the time
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23:22 scientes; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/15/a-special-operation-against-city-preservation-advocates XRevan86 <---
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23:22 TR Bot; NO TITLE
23:22 britney; so i charged people in my jurisdiction
23:22 britney; i dropped the charges once they did
23:22 scientes; NO TITLE?
23:23 scientes; A special operation against city preservation advocates How commercial interests in St. Petersburg are using the political situation to demolish historic buildings
23:23 XRevan86; "How commercial interests in St. Petersburg are using the political situation to demolish historic buildings"
23:23 britney; so there you go, a story from a legit legal professional
23:24 XRevan86; scientes: Full destruction of activism in Russia has opened some doors.
23:25 scientes; XRevan86, opened? Looks more like they just break down the doors
23:25 XRevan86; Completed the process.
23:26 scientes; They should dismantle the hermitage and St Peter the Great's small personal home
23:26 DaemonFC; Yeah, never open the door for police.
23:27 DaemonFC; Talk to them through the door. If they can't hear you, tell them to have their dispatcher call you, but just figure out what it's about. Don't admit to anything, don't agree to anything.
23:27 DaemonFC; If they have to ask to come in, then they don't have a warrant and can only come in if you let them in.
23:27 DaemonFC; They'll break the door down if they have a warrant.
23:28 DaemonFC; Asking to come in is asking for a fishing expedition. They want to come in, see something that's illegal, get you on that, start a search....
23:28 DaemonFC; The problem is that anyone who is in the house can open up and let them in.
23:29 DaemonFC; So if you're at a big party or something and one drunk asshole opens the door, they can see that there's underage drinking or something, come in, and arrest everybody.
23:29 DaemonFC; Or if your spouse or roommate lets them in, they can come in.
23:29 DaemonFC; You ought to have a safe that is locked. They can't just bust it open without a warrant.
23:29 DaemonFC; If it has a $2 lock on it, doesn't matter. They can't open it without a warrant.
23:30 britney; i used to worry about that because i smoked marijuana but it became legal so im not longer doing anything illegal
23:31 britney; DaemonFC, do you think you can link the lawyer video on your blog?
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