IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022

beginning of new day, October 3

00:08 psydruid; embalmed human thighs ready for consumption by a cannibalistic developer advocate

00:09 schestowitz[TR]; no, I am referring to the video here vvv

00:09 TR News; GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/
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00:09 TR Bot; GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights

00:09 schestowitz[TR]; imagine ther reaction

00:09 schestowitz[TR]; if RMS did this

00:09 schestowitz[TR]; RMS stares at people

00:09 schestowitz[TR]; because of a condition

00:09 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe the cancel mob wants to electrocute him for it

00:10 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile, balmer molests men

00:10 schestowitz[TR]; and you can see the men's arms

00:10 schestowitz[TR]; they're like, leaving me alone creep

00:10 schestowitz[TR]; but he's their boss

00:10 schestowitz[TR]; so they must be careful

00:10 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ does not mind

00:10 schestowitz[TR]; he's preying on thw weak

00:10 psydruid; "consumption" as in squeezing them

00:11 schestowitz[TR]; the cance mob set up no petiotion

00:11 schestowitz[TR]; to cance;l Ballmer

00:11 schestowitz[TR]; he stil runs the team

00:11 schestowitz[TR]; and mollests men there

00:11 schestowitz[TR]; maybe Connie does not satisfy him

00:11 schestowitz[TR]; so he goes for young men

00:11 schestowitz[TR]; who he controls in ther workplace

00:11 psydruid; "cannibalistic" as in being a little bit too touchy-feely in an uncomfortable way

00:11 schestowitz[TR]; no github petitionm about it from elana Hamasman, MinceR, Bully, and McGovern

00:12 schestowitz[TR]; oops

00:12 schestowitz[TR]; not mincer

00:12 schestowitz[TR]; wrong autocomplete

00:12 schestowitz[TR]; spyware is good

00:12 psydruid; MinceR and Bully the Vampire Enabler

00:12 schestowitz[TR]; gpl violations OK

00:12 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft is trust

00:12 schestowitz[TR]; security is back doors

00:13 schestowitz[TR]; join us know and share the entryism

00:13 schestowitz[TR]; in EFF, FSF, and more

00:13 schestowitz[TR]; *join us now

00:13 schestowitz[TR]; Vampire Slayer

00:13 schestowitz[TR]; Sarah Michelle Gellar

00:14 schestowitz[TR]; the troll's partner was born Sarah Michelle

00:14 schestowitz[TR]; and for decades he was saying "transphobic shit"

00:14 MinceR; lol

00:14 MinceR; 03 010846 < psydruid> embalmed human thighs ready for consumption by a cannibalistic developer advocate

00:14 MinceR; wouldn't those be toxic?

00:14 MinceR; due to the embalming fluid(s)

00:15 schestowitz[TR]; "we,, he's dead"

00:15 schestowitz[TR]; Steve/: "let's EMBALM him"

00:16 schestowitz[TR]; you could mash up

00:16 schestowitz[TR]; death og Bill Gatesd Sr.

00:16 schestowitz[TR]; and then his son saying

00:16 schestowitz[TR]; "well,m he's dead"

00:16 schestowitz[TR]; with the cold-faced banality

00:16 schestowitz[TR]; "He [Bill Gates] is divisive. He is manipulative. He is a user. He has taken much from me and the industry."

00:16 schestowitz[TR]; Gary Kildall

00:16 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/dM0t8LE.jpeg

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00:17 psydruid; the toxicity is part of the grand plan to kill free software by taking out its developers

00:17 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: that's a strange-looking dog

00:17 psydruid; just squeeze them until there is no one left

00:18 schestowitz[TR]; yeha

00:18 schestowitz[TR]; but there was a reaction to this

00:18 schestowitz[TR]; and now we extinguish the monopoly tradually

00:18 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: it's not. observe the tag.

00:18 schestowitz[TR]; but bailout biden and cheeto nazi keep bailing out the criminals

00:18 schestowitz[TR]; but giving them "defence" money

00:18 schestowitz[TR]; to "save" the S&P '500'

00:18 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-exec-tony-blevins-departs-following-tiktok-video-2022-9

=> ↺ https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-exec-tony-blevins-departs-following-tiktok-video-2022-9

00:18 TR Bot; Apple Exec Tony Blevins Departs After Crass Joke in TikTok Video

00:18 schestowitz[TR]; which is like 20% GAFAM

00:18 DaemonFC; "An Apple executive is leaving the company after being filmed joking about fondling 'big-breasted women' in a viral TikTok video"

00:18 schestowitz[TR]; Apple will collapse soon

00:19 schestowitz[TR]; the sales are collapsing

00:19 schestowitz[TR]; they craft new BS stories or excuses

00:19 DaemonFC; Matthew "I made fun of trannies but that was like 20 years ago and now I attack people for it" Garrett should chime in.

00:19 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: they need to pretend they're otp a company of pervert

00:19 DaemonFC; mjg59_: What do you think of yet another BIGBOOBIES scandal at a major tech company?

00:19 schestowitz[TR]; like Steve thighthigh

00:20 DaemonFC; Did you make BIGBOOBIES jokes 20 years ago?

00:20 psydruid; govermind criminals siding with corporate criminals against citizens

00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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00:20 psydruid; who would have though that was even possible

00:20 psydruid; thought*

00:20 psydruid; /s

00:20 psydruid; government*

00:22 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: give him a break, he ws a kid at the time

00:22 schestowitz[TR]; 25+ year old with phd

00:22 schestowitz[TR]; he was just a child

00:22 psydruid; "More fun or less fun for trannies?"

00:22 schestowitz[TR]; manchild

00:22 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is having tranny problems.

00:22 DaemonFC; Must have bought a Chevy.

00:23 TR News; very good news for Linux http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/microsoft-windows-new-low/

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00:23 TR Bot; Windows Majority in Asia Down to Just Three Countries, All-time Low for Windows Worldwide This Month | Techrights

00:23 TR News; Who profits from "Linux"? PEOPLE WHO DO NOT EVEN USE IT!! http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/pseudo-charitable-front-group/

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00:23 TR Bot; Linux Foundation, While Hoarding Over $200,000,000 Per Year, Calls Itself Non-Profit | Techrights

00:24 DaemonFC; They can really get their printing costs under control with the owner's manuals these days.

00:24 DaemonFC; 35,000 miles - First Service - Replace entire $60,000 car.

00:25 TR News; Zemlin isn't selling Linux. He's SELLING OUT Linux. Like handing it over to LINUX FOES in exchange for money... for them to give it a butcher's treatment (e.g. VMware and Microsoft GPL violations).

00:25 TR News; Slippery Singapore gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2022-10-03_Slippery_Singapore.gmi

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00:26 DaemonFC; Remember when owner's manuals assumed you might keep the car for 250,000 miles or so and that's where the recommended service interval stopped?

00:27 schestowitz[TR]; car become less appealing

00:27 schestowitz[TR]; they will not be sold in quantity

00:27 schestowitz[TR]; so quality too will sink

00:28 schestowitz[TR]; no mass production like decades ago

00:28 schestowitz[TR]; and prices soar

00:28 schestowitz[TR]; and reliability be so crap that few will actually WISH to buy them

00:28 schestowitz[TR]; from "too many moving parts"

00:28 schestowitz[TR]; to "too many computers"

00:28 schestowitz[TR]; you cannot fix a computer by just "moving" it

00:28 schestowitz[TR]; you need to replace whole boasrs

00:29 schestowitz[TR]; made in another country

00:29 schestowitz[TR]; no wrentch but invoice and transmission

00:29 schestowitz[TR]; wretch

00:29 schestowitz[TR]; imagine this going on for 20-30 years

00:30 schestowitz[TR]; you talk about something like installing in you car a pre-pentium PC

00:30 schestowitz[TR]; in 2022

00:30 TR News; The current policy isnt working. People are ill and they get poor (theres also Long COVID-19, which few wish to speak about). https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/02/208000-british-death/

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00:30 TR Bot; Blog Archive Almost 3 Years After Breakout, 208,000 British Deaths Linked to COVID-19

00:31 TR News; The decline of Microsoft Windows continues; sooner or later Android (Linux inside) will be dominant in almost every country in terms of its market share or number of users http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/microsoft-windows-new-low/

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00:31 TR Bot; Windows Majority in Asia Down to Just Three Countries, All-time Low for Windows Worldwide This Month | Techrights

00:31 TR News; The good news is that GNU/Linux continues to expand (widespread usage); the bad news is, it has come under a sheer magnitude of attacks and the media barely bothers to mention the obvious http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/

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00:31 TR Bot; GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights

00:34 TR News; GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/

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00:37 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> imagine this going on for 20-30 years <- i can imagine it going on for 11

00:38 highest_cubist_thrills; 20 if you count the halloween documents

00:38 highest_cubist_thrills; are we talking about the newfsf or the old open sleaze

00:38 schestowitz[TR]; it's muteFSF

00:38 schestowitz[TR]; it's there

00:38 schestowitz[TR]; but does not say much

00:39 schestowitz[TR]; vry passive tbh

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00:39 schestowitz[TR]; rms stares at people = ewww. creep!

00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a software update

00:40 schestowitz[TR]; ballmer molests men, with his bare hands = lol, those rich people...

00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; ballmer molests men, with his bare hands = lol, those rich people... <- im not crazy, jack

00:40 schestowitz[TR]; "don't wannt be a monkey wrench"=balmmer

00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; "POOR PEOPLE are crazy"

00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; "im ECCENTRIC!"

00:41 schestowitz[TR]; Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Book Review: "From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime" by Elizabeth Hinton https://dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/2022/09/book-review-from-war-on-poverty-to-war.html | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/2022/09/book-review-from-war-on-poverty-to-war.html

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00:41 TR Bot; Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Book Review: "From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime" by Elizabeth Hinton

00:41 schestowitz[TR]; being poor is a crime

00:41 schestowitz[TR]; rich=campaign contriobution

00:41 schestowitz[TR]; otherwise, "shoplifter"

00:41 highest_cubist_thrills; can ballmer rub peoples thighs at lieplanet?

00:41 schestowitz[TR]; yes

00:42 schestowitz[TR]; and if they throw eggs they get arrested

00:42 schestowitz[TR]; but he can grab their eggs

00:42 schestowitz[TR]; and bribe hungarian officers

00:42 schestowitz[TR]; whose oficer were raided by authorities btw

00:42 schestowitz[TR]; *offices

00:42 highest_cubist_thrills; whose oficer were raided by authorities btw <- which distro is that

00:43 schestowitz[TR]; "tough on crime" became "tough on poor people"

00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; probably a spin of microsoft linucks

00:43 schestowitz[TR]; those who use the term are cops

00:43 schestowitz[TR]; they don't deal with white-dollar crimes

00:43 schestowitz[TR]; *collar

00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; "tough on crime" became "tough on poor people" <- pretty much always like this

00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; now moreso, but stil

00:44 schestowitz[TR]; more tax breaks on the rich

00:44 schestowitz[TR]; lax on the rich

00:44 schestowitz[TR]; legialising tax crimes

00:44 schestowitz[TR]; tough on tax :-)

00:44 schestowitz[TR]; make it lax

00:45 highest_cubist_thrills; thighs need wax?

00:45 highest_cubist_thrills; ballmers back!

00:46 schestowitz[TR]; who said sit down!!??

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; he left them alone after they used their arms to get him off their thigh area

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; befroe he's too much in upper inner

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; "egg attack"

00:47 highest_cubist_thrills; they made a three point goal-- it was a sweet surprise

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.informationweek.com/operating-systems/microsoft-s-ballmer-escapes-egg-attack

=> ↺ https://www.informationweek.com/operating-systems/microsoft-s-ballmer-escapes-egg-attack

00:47 highest_cubist_thrills; ballmer is always bold-- theyve got bette davis thighs!

00:47 TR Bot; Microsoft's Ballmer Escapes Egg Attack

00:47 schestowitz[TR]; "Escapes"

00:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The good news is that my ABS hasn't randomly malfunctioned.

00:48 DaemonFC; So it was the ABS module and not something much more serious than that.

00:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/2790350/Microsofts-Steve-Ballmer-dodges-egg-attack.html

=> ↺ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/2790350/Microsofts-Steve-Ballmer-dodges-egg-attack.html

00:48 TR Bot; Microsoft's Steve Ballmer dodges egg attack

00:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.stuff.co.nz/archived-stuff-sections/games-old-mirror/473827/Now-anyone-can-throw-eggs-at-Microsoft-chief

=> ↺ https://www.stuff.co.nz/archived-stuff-sections/games-old-mirror/473827/Now-anyone-can-throw-eggs-at-Microsoft-chief

00:48 TR Bot; anyone can throw eggs at Microsoft chief | Stuff.co.nz

00:48 schestowitz[TR]; site offline http://www.egg-attack.com/

=> ↺ http://www.egg-attack.com/

00:48 TR Bot; NameBright - Coming Soon

00:49 highest_cubist_thrills; eggggsellent

00:52 highest_cubist_thrills; site offline http://www.egg-attack.com/ <- they could modify the kill bill game

=> ↺ http://www.egg-attack.com/

00:52 highest_cubist_thrills; egg ballmer

00:52 highest_cubist_thrills; someone made a version with lennart

00:53 DaemonFC; Today was "chemicals day" at the store. They're pushing big rebates hard to keep branded consumables going.

00:55 DaemonFC; 09/29/2022 - 58,203 mi.

00:55 DaemonFC; Vehicle serviced Brake system bled ABS module replaced

00:56 DaemonFC; Those GM ABS modules were infamous for going bad. My mechanic says age usually kills them before mileage does. He said expect them to go out every 10 years or so.

00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 117.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.58

1 AM, October 3

01:02 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/308860535_1523916064758042_7392765313570152380_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=6RfQKQnGE7gAX_Ubbx8&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=00_AT8mGZB3zdGKnnEPPTIfM4e-JWpdDW0NhG-dQNQo2gFT5A&oe=633F6995

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01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 112.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 132.91

2 AM, October 3

02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-021022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-021022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-021022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-021022.txt

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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022

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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022

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02:49 DaemonFC; Okay, there's an upcoming build of SeaMonkey now that fixes the NoScript crashing I think.

02:49 DaemonFC; I'll have to test this and see what happens.

02:53 DaemonFC; https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/02/exclusive-darren-bailey-within-striking-distance-as-illinois-governors-race-tightens-voters-ready-for-change/?fbclid=IwAR2Ak1k3I-J07wEL0fonSQau5486B6_Pnad1Ygne9BlUIEqjVUzeHynCLPU

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02:54 TR Bot; Exclusive: Darren Bailey Within Striking Distance as Illinois Governor's Race Tightens

02:54 DaemonFC; "In August, he slammed the states SAFE-T (Safety, Accountability, Fairness and Equity-Today) Act that will end cash bail in Illinois and limit the use of force that police officers are permitted to use.

02:54 DaemonFC; The new law, passed by Democrats, will free from jail thousands of suspects accused of second-degree murder, kidnapping, burglary, robbery, and other violent crimes."

02:55 DaemonFC; Pretty much. It gives the prosecutor a high burden because they have to prove to a judge, who might be a Democrat and doesn't have to explain themselves and will probably be on the court for life, that the suspect is a clear and present danger to an identifiable person and they have to do that at a hearing, which has to be within 72 hours of an arrest.

02:56 DaemonFC; Otherwise, the police have to release you on a personal recognizance bond, which basically just means most people will sign it and go back to killing and raping and not show up for their trial.

02:57 DaemonFC; "If elected to office, Bailey said he would repeal the law, which is slated to take effect in January."

02:57 DaemonFC; He can't. There's no plausible situation where he gets into office with a legislature that will do as he says.

02:58 DaemonFC; About the only thing he could do is appoint new judges that have promised to lock up violent offenders using their discretion that the law gives them, but that doesn't happen overnight.

02:58 DaemonFC; The only ways a judge loses their office is if they are convicted of a crime, die, fail a retention vote, or get impeached.

02:59 DaemonFC; The law kicks in in January and will basically ensure a crime wave that sweeps the entire state.

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02:59 DaemonFC; The same so-called reform package makes it harder to charge murder accomplices and allows for anonymous and unsworn complaints to be filed against law enforcement officers, he said.

3 AM, October 3

03:00 DaemonFC; That's true, but it also doesn't require the Internal Affairs department to act on those complaints.

03:00 DaemonFC; And the officer you complain of will know it was you if you leave any identifying information in the complaint, which basically means that the complaint won't go anywhere, but now you have cop(s) with a grudge against you, who may see you around town and invent things to harass you with further.

03:01 DaemonFC; "He also slammed Pritzker and Lightfoot for the increase in violent crime in Chicago and throughout the state by taking away tools for law enforcement officials to use against criminals."

03:01 bagira; im actually amazed illinois hasn't collapsed into various gang-run territories at this point, they just keep getting worse

03:02 DaemonFC; Most of those "tools" were basically police bullshit. Like, they want to stop you and check your car, so they say you had fuzzy dice on your rearview mirror.

03:02 DaemonFC; bagiraim actually amazed illinois hasn't collapsed into various gang-run territories at this point, they just keep getting worse

03:02 DaemonFC; Parts of it have.

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03:02 DaemonFC; Chicago only has enough police to enforce the law in less than half the city, so some neighborhoods have 2-3 hour response times for 911 now.

03:03 DaemonFC; There's a couple of cities that would file bankruptcy, but they can't because Illinois doesn't allow it, so they fired all of the police and firefighters because the state intercepted their tax money to pay pensions for cops and firefighters they used to have.

03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 64 GB TotalOut: 17 GB

03:04 bagira; schestowitz: After a great deal of back and forth, I'm able and willing to speak out about Frank Gingras stalking me and my family for several years if you'd like to do an interview.

03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:04 DaemonFC; Illinois is getting ready to collapse.

03:05 DaemonFC; The only reason it didn't during the entirely avoidable COVID "crisis" was because it took bailout loans from the Federal Reserve.

03:05 DaemonFC; The state was the only one to do it because the rest of the states can get loans at rates lower than what Russia pays.

03:05 DaemonFC; So no reason to use the Fed's "State and Municipal Liquidity" program.

03:06 bagira; schestowitz I am also able to confirm that the Apache Software Foundation was made aware of the issue at a conference several years ago and took no action.

03:07 bagira; schestowitz for context, Frank Gingras is associated with the Apache project and is their "main guy" on their official IRC channels, and was at one point heavily associated with the Slackware community.

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03:18 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/supreme-court-to-hear-case-that-could-have-massive-impact-on-us-water-quality/?fbclid=IwAR2VG1fPBiP0RZ4EJqRFe1zFrQpD_sbd9sAc1PjSoSzYxSI6s_X2n38BXYI

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03:18 TR Bot; Supreme Court to hear case that could have massive impact on US water quality | WGN-TV

03:19 DaemonFC; I liked how in Ghostbusters, the guy who actually causes the disaster at the end of the movie is from the Environmental Protection Agency.

03:19 DaemonFC; And he shuts down the Ghostbusters' "confinement grid" without knowing what he's even doing just because Peter Venkman slighted him.

03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

03:20 DaemonFC; The movie accidentally made a good point.

03:20 DaemonFC; The government is stacked with people who don't know what they're doing and are on a major power trip and should never have gotten where they're at. :)

03:20 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^

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03:40 bagira; https://phanes.silogroup.org/frank-gingras-is-a-former-stalker-of-mine/

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03:40 TR Bot; Frank Gingras is a Former Stalker of Mine Phanes' Canon

03:58 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/09/30/1126207614/trevor-noah-daily-show-late-night-tv-comedy-central

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03:58 TR Bot; Trevor Noah leaves 'The Daily Show' a hint at deeper problems in late night TV : NPR

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03:58 DaemonFC; After ruining The Daily Show, Trevor Noah is leaving.

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04:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Basically, I think the artificial limitations of requiring a TPM for Windows "11" are mainly there to disguise software bloat. If your PC is new enough to have TPM2 you probably won't notice that it quadrupled the memory and disk footprint of the OS and doesn't do much more than Windows 10.

04:38 DaemonFC; Windows 10 was already incredibly bloated, but Windows 11 keeps piling it on. Including an entirely new GUI shell, except.....the old one is there too so things that expect it don't break.

04:38 DaemonFC; You just can't see it.

04:39 DaemonFC; To people who go "Well, yeah, but....compatibility...." No *nix desktop environment includes the last two versions as well for "compatibility". GNOME 4 doesn't include GNOME 3 and GNOME 2 running but hidden.

04:41 DaemonFC; Only in 2019 did Microsoft purge the last remnants of Outlook Express, which hadn't even done anything as a functional program since Windows XP.

04:41 DaemonFC; Only in 2021 did they remove syskey.exe, which is from Windows NT 4, iirc, because tech support scammers were using it to lock you computer and demand money.

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5 AM, October 3

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05:08 bagira; windows is going to try to pivot to be a linux company

05:08 bagira; MSFT is i mean

05:08 starstreak; its phanes!

05:09 bagira; it is i

05:09 highest_cubist_thrills; windows is going to try to pivot to be a linux company <- the only thing i dont like about this is

05:09 starstreak; Microsoft Linucks 24.04 LTS, with edge and powershell

05:09 highest_cubist_thrills; people are going to say "thats why theyre taking shit over. because THEY HAVE NO CHOICE"

05:10 bagira; they are trying to maximize control of what distros can be installed and then inject themselves so far into the kernel that it's basically a msft os

05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; which is fine, except then theyre like

05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; "so they wont fuck it up..."

05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; oh yeah? what did they do to windows? RIGHT, okay.

05:10 bagira; tarvolds is drunk at the wheel though and won't see it coming

05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; the microsoft model is breaking everything, then selling people a broom and dustpan.

05:10 bagira; he's checked out

05:11 bagira; so

05:11 bagira; f/oss will not be a on linux kernel in the future

05:11 bagira; i dont know what kernel it will center around, but it won't be linux at some point

05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; tarvolds is drunk at the wheel <- lawrence lessig has a clip of the guy steering the exxon valdeez before it spilled

05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; lets just say he was tanked.

05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; on a tanker.

05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; hes calling in on the radio

05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; and he sounds completely out of it

05:12 bagira; i dont mean that he has a drinking problem i mean he's not resisting corporate infection of the kernel anymore

05:12 starstreak; i use arch btw

05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; but it won't be linux at some point <- even hurd was based on bsd

05:13 bagira; he either sees it and doesn't care or or he doesn't see it because he's not paying attention or thinking strategically (have they found his blind spot?)

05:13 highest_cubist_thrills; thats why they call it bsd

05:13 highest_cubist_thrills; because its (b)a(s)e(d)

05:13 bagira; i dont think bsd is ever going to be much more than it is

05:13 highest_cubist_thrills; what would it need to be

05:14 bagira; i dont know

05:14 highest_cubist_thrills; also im just talking about the kernel

05:14 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean bsd has a forkable kernel

05:15 highest_cubist_thrills; linux not so much

05:15 bagira; what i fear due to no visible emerging contender is that msft will just gradually infect linux further until everything is running MSFT Linux

05:15 highest_cubist_thrills; is that msft will just gradually infect linux further until everything is running MSFT Linux <- i think we are already there

05:15 highest_cubist_thrills; it will just get worse and more obvious and blatant

05:15 bagira; no not even close

05:15 bagira; but yes it will get worse and more obvious and blatant

05:15 highest_cubist_thrills; does openbsd have microsoft edge? <- yeah by default. gnome too

05:16 highest_cubist_thrills; pkg_add monodevelop

05:16 bagira; the problem isn't just msft infection of linux

05:16 bagira; the problem is that they have corrupted the talent pool to create conteners

05:16 bagira; *contenders

05:16 highest_cubist_thrills; stackoverflow.com/questions/73870369/view-my-website-on-edge-and-safari-browsers-only

05:16 highest_cubist_thrills; That is, it can only be view on EDGE and SAFARI Browsers alone. How do i achieve that? javascript. php. html. sql. cpanel.

05:16 bagira; you aren't going to see indie projects prop up with viable performant kernels that can compete with linux

05:17 highest_cubist_thrills; competing with windows never took us anywhere good imo

05:17 highest_cubist_thrills; competing with linux wont either

05:17 highest_cubist_thrills; no point being indepedent if we have to play by their rules anyway

05:18 starstreak; im looking forward to the new version of Gnome Web, it uses firefox extensions

05:18 highest_cubist_thrills; holwerdas funniest article ever. april 1?

05:18 highest_cubist_thrills; Microsoft Edge is becoming the browser you didn't know you needed

05:18 highest_cubist_thrills; www.osnews.com/story/131612/microsoft-edge-is-becoming-the-browser-you-didnt-know-you-needed/

05:18 bagira; no

05:18 bagira; i mean

05:19 bagira; there won't be any independent projects

05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre certianly working on it.

05:19 bagira; i mean there will be some smaller projects here and there, but "this boom" can't bereproduced

05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; free software is dead anyway

05:19 bagira; because they've alienated or purchased any conceivable talent that would and could

05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the fake version is still kicking

05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; because they've alienated or purchased any conceivable talent that would and co <- yep

05:20 highest_cubist_thrills; and some of the talentless too

05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

05:20 highest_cubist_thrills; starstreak: i honestly tried to find ANYTHING about edge and openbsd

05:21 highest_cubist_thrills; i got nothing. i think the search engine is actually making up results and laughing at me.

05:21 highest_cubist_thrills; did you mean: red vs blue smurfs crossover series?

05:21 starstreak; i dont think openbsd has any chrome based browser, so its a fail

05:22 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, theo de raadt should just open a pizza place or something

05:22 highest_cubist_thrills; "we use stuffed crust because it increases the attack surface for more flavour!"

05:23 starstreak; attack surface btw

05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "we create research pizza for our own purposes. we dont really care if anyone likes our pizza or not"

05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "we created stuff crust as a mitigation, now other pizza places have adopted it"

05:24 highest_cubist_thrills; "we were the first pizza place to put the little plastic table in the box so you didnt get cheese all over the lid. i was pretty proud of that one."

05:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "we also created the insulated pizza carrier so pizzas remained hot when they came to your door"

05:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "the only thing we didnt invent was pizza itself. some italian guy got there first"

05:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "we take no credit for the use of ham and pineapple-- those are not mitigations, they are exploits"

05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome has three kinds of hawaiian pizza

05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; in gnome 3 the pizza is hawaiian by default

05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; everyone hated it and they said "fuck you, youre going to eat hawaiian pizza and youll fucking like it"

05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg pointed out that the guy that invented pizza was a misogynist and ableist

05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; also long dead but its not too late to cancel him. i mean he still gets credit for inventing pizza

05:30 highest_cubist_thrills; at this point people need to understand that pizza only exists because of countless groups of people, not just one guy

05:31 highest_cubist_thrills; which of course is true in a way.

05:31 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the guy that invented pizza didnt even think to put cheese on it ffs

05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; until a guy named linnos torvallini decided he was going to make pizza

05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; only he didnt call it pizza, he called it torvallini. then he got bought out by papa johns.

05:34 highest_cubist_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza

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05:34 TR Bot; History of pizza - Wikipedia

05:34 highest_cubist_thrills; according to wikipedia, pizza was invented by roy schestowitz in 2006

05:35 highest_cubist_thrills; "Pizza Rolls were first invented by Jeno Paulucci in 1968. His company also named Jeno's Pizza Rolls was the official owner up until he sold the business to Pillsbury who later changed the name to Totino's. Pizza Rolls were first created by replacing the contents of an egg roll with pizza toppings."

05:38 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h6XvMKdD2tY

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05:38 TR Bot; 500 Year-Old Pizza VS Today - Invidious

05:39 starstreak; comic: https://i.imgur.com/T1S3Nco.jpg

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05:39 highest_cubist_thrills; rofl

05:40 highest_cubist_thrills; til dishwashing gloves arent enough to stop the tap water from turning frogs gay

05:41 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h6XvMKdD2tY <- 00:00:25 robert california goes back centuries in italy

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05:41 highest_cubist_thrills; how did they know james spader would end up looking like that though

05:44 highest_cubist_thrills; https://i.ibb.co/YTxXjbV/james-spader-fresco.jpg

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05:54 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, October 02, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

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05:54 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

05:54 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

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05:54 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

05:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, they're talking about Credit Suisse failing now, but no worries.

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6 AM, October 3

06:01 DaemonFC; Well, you know....

06:02 DaemonFC; You launder money for cocaine traffickers......You finance terrorism.....You tell hedge funds you do business with to destroy evidence of the loans to Russian oligarchs that you backed....

06:02 DaemonFC; Banking!

06:02 TR News; Craving a game gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1664730725

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06:03 TR News; I should learn Russian gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/i-should-learn-russian

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06:03 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D372.jpg

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06:04 TR News; Kale goes to gemspace gemini://kalechips.smol.pub/2022-10-02-first

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06:04 TR News; "I'll also probably be talking about everything Linux/FOSS, gaming, the small web and what not." gemini://djpro.smol.pub/first-post

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06:05 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D717.jpg

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06:10 TR News; "Josh and Kurt talk about a blog post that explains there isnt really an open source software supply chain. The whole idea of open source being one thing is incorrect, open source is really a lot of little things put together. A lot of companies and organizations get this wrong." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/10/02/episode-343-stop-trying-to-fix-the-open-source-software-supply-chain/

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06:10 TR Bot; Episode 343 Stop trying to fix the open source software supply chain Open Source Security

06:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Mozilla is trying to cram Clang down everyone's throats.

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla has no respect for boundaries

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; keeps shoving ads

06:13 DaemonFC; They're trying to drop a bunch of patches in Skia that make it perform well when built with GCC.

06:14 schestowitz[TR]; firefox became malicious software

06:14 schestowitz[TR]; maybe gulag told moz that gpl is bad

06:14 schestowitz[TR]; and moz has to nod

06:14 schestowitz[TR]; for baker to keep robbing the org

06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> mozilla has no respect for boundaries <- mozilla was invented in 1602 in naples as a way to funnel money from the papacy to the mob

06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; firefox became malicious software <- and mozilla became a not-for-profit-for-profit

06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; like the fsf

06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; well, at least osi

06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf merely ADVOCATES stealing free software and handing control to corporations that hate user freedom

06:22 highest_cubist_thrills; osi is the militant wing of the salvation army

06:23 highest_cubist_thrills; ibms take on open source goes back to the early 20th century when work camps used forced labour and "terminated" anyone not useful to the state and corporations

06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; it turns out when you dont pay your workers and you murder them when they take ill or get injured, profits go way up

06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; just one of many innovations from big blue brother

06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; along with gas chambers as a retirement package

06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "it also removes lice from clothing!"

06:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "i mean we didnt invent that. we just streamlined it by not having them take the clothes off first"

06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; anyone else think its interesting that ibms trademark colour is similar to prussian blue?

06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-holocaust-art-possible-a-murderous-shade-of-blue-is-one-painters-answer/

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06:29 TR Bot; Is Holocaust art possible? A murderous shade of blue is one painter's answer | The Times of Israel

06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "The Prussian blue-tinted stains sometimes found on gas chamber walls are from the compound ferrocyanide, a byproduct of the Zyklon B gas"

06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe they should be called zbm

06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; zyklon b machines

06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; zyklon b murderers

06:32 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=US-KcZbZGUk

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06:32 TR Bot; Getting started with IBM Blueworks Live: an introduction - Invidious

06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zfLVvk7CjY4 <- ibm blue cloud

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06:33 TR Bot; IBM Blue Cloud is Ready-to-Use Cloud Computing - Invidious

06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; "dont worry, this time our blue cloud doesnt contain ferrocyanide!"

06:34 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zpIdUNDSIGM

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06:34 TR Bot; IBM Blue Lightning 486 DX2 class PC - Invidious

06:34 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm blue lightning-- what, like the ss insignia?

06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_386SLC#IBM_486BL_(Blue_Lightning)

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06:37 TR Bot; IBM 386SLC - Wikipedia

06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; "whether its millions of transistors or millions of jews, ibm is working towards a better future for everyone. except maybe jews."

06:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: It gets harder and harder to build Firefox with GCC.

06:39 DaemonFC; I think sooner or later, it will get a build exception from fesco.

06:39 TR News; (NEW): Regolith Is the Perfect Introduction to Tiling Window Managers on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Regolith_Is_the_Perfect_Introduction_to_Tiling_Window_Managers_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Regolith_Is_the_Perfect_Introduction_to_Tiling_Window_Managers_.gmi

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06:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Regolith Is the Perfect Introduction to Tiling Window Managers on Linux

06:39 DaemonFC; It's not like IBM is a huge fan of the GPL.

06:39 highest_cubist_thrills; "IBM later marketed Socket 3 168-pin PGA Blue Lightning 486 CPUs, but these are technically not related to earlier Blue Lightning models as they are based on the Cyrix Cx486 CPU core. They can be distinguished by the inclusion of a "DX" (or DX2, DX4) legend somewhere on the label"

06:39 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/06/04/tired-of-rms-winning/

=> http://techrights.org/2020/06/04/tired-of-rms-winning/

06:39 TR Bot; Red Hat/IBM Got Tired of RMS. Is It Getting Tired of GPL/Copyleft Too? | Techrights

06:40 DaemonFC; The main reason they kept building with GCC is because Clang was missing proper support for some of the security hardening that Fedora uses and generates useless debug symbols..

06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; https://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/

=> https://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/

06:40 TR Bot; The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights

06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; /me checke watch and calendar

06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; any day now

06:41 DaemonFC; I wonder what mjg59_ Failed Biologist Extraordinaire thinks about turning off security to make Firefox build with Clang.

06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming

06:41 TR Bot; Second Coming - Wikipedia

06:42 TR News; (NEW): Review: SpiralLinux 11.220628 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Review_SpiralLinux_11_220628.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Review_SpiralLinux_11_220628.gmi

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06:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Review: SpiralLinux 11.220628

06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; https://github.com/WRainbow1/crown-of-thorns

=> ↺ https://github.com/WRainbow1/crown-of-thorns

06:43 TR Bot; - WRainbow1/crown-of-thorns

06:44 TR News; New Pegasus Spyware Abuses Identified in Mexico - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/10/new-pegasus-spyware-abuses-identified-in-mexico/ Source: Citizen Lab | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//citizenlab.ca/2022/10/new-pegasus-spyware-abuses-identified-in-mexico/

=> ↺ https://citizenlab.ca/2022/10/new-pegasus-spyware-abuses-identified-in-mexico/
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06:44 TR Bot; New Pegasus Spyware Abuses Identified in Mexico - The Citizen Lab

06:44 TR News; (NEW): Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 2: multi-threading http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Notes_from_kernel_hacking_in_Hare_part_2_multi_threading.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Notes_from_kernel_hacking_in_Hare_part_2_multi_threading.gmi

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06:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 2: multi-threading

06:45 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yow_BJeb8TI

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yow_BJeb8TI

06:45 TR Bot; Guy Fawkes vs Che Guevara. Epic Rap Battles of History. - Invidious

06:45 TR News; Debian bookworm on a Lenovo T14s Gen3 AMD https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_463

=> ↺ https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_463

06:45 TR Bot; Debian bookworm on a Lenovo T14s Gen3 AMD

06:46 DaemonFC; Matthew Garrett

06:46 DaemonFC; @mjg59

06:46 DaemonFC; 19h

06:46 DaemonFC; Debian has voted to include non-free firmware in the installer by default, which is an impressive repudiation of the FSF

06:46 DaemonFC; -----

06:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: He gloats that non-free binaries that open up backdoors in hardware is included by default and that the FSF has been "repudiated"

06:47 DaemonFC; "security"

06:47 schestowitz[TR]; FSF shot its own foot

06:47 schestowitz[TR]; by giving award to a troll

06:48 schestowitz[TR]; and thus discrediting the FSFF

06:48 schestowitz[TR]; and the award

06:48 schestowitz[TR]; it was not the only time

06:48 schestowitz[TR]; de Icaza and others

06:48 schestowitz[TR]; bkuhn

06:48 schestowitz[TR]; they have a whole parade of people with FSF awards who bash the FSF

06:48 schestowitz[TR]; and what's that for?

06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i recall ariadne (i might be thinking of someone else though) saying the point of the fsf awards was to mend things with people rms pissed off

06:49 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/

=> http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/

06:49 TR Bot; My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights

06:49 schestowitz[TR]; yes, like reconciliation attempts

06:49 schestowitz[TR]; but it does not work

06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont want to misquote or misattribute, so it should be assumed my wording here is lacking in accuracy somewhere

06:49 schestowitz[TR]; they just give a badge of endorsement to people would would continue to bash their mission

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; but it does not work <- no, the fsf awards are as misguided an approach as secure boot itself

06:50 schestowitz[TR]; and now while saying things like, I'm even a freedom 'champion'... gott this award right here

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; the whole military "heroes" thing is also a pr campaign

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; ive got family in the armed forces-- i dont hate them or anything

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre being used by imperialism

06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; some of them at least are guilty of crimes

06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the armed forces

06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; but war is a hostage situation where the hostages are pitted against each other

06:51 TR News; New page/update: SWI-Prolog version 8.4.3 (stable) released on 22 June 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Swi-prolog

=> ↺ https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Swi-prolog

06:51 TR Bot; Swi-prolog - Free Software Directory

06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; sure there are "volunteers"

06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; often relatively poor

06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; create a lower class, tell them they can volunteer

06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; raise college tuition, tell them youll pay for them to go to college

06:52 TR News; "Welcome to this week's Linux Weekly Roundup. We had a full week in the world of Linux releases, many reviews will be ready next week." https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/10/linux-weekly-roundup-202.html

=> ↺ https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/10/linux-weekly-roundup-202.html

06:52 TR Bot; Linux Weekly Roundup #202

06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; then pump people full of propaganda about "liberating" the world

06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; from situations imperialism created in the first place

06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; its a great scam

06:53 TR News; IBM and Microsoft as coauthors. Or Red Hat. They're not competing with Microsoft but appeasing the enemy that's attacking us. https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/10/03/userns-alpha/

=> ↺ https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/10/03/userns-alpha/

06:53 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.25: alpha support for running Pods with user namespaces | Kubernetes

06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i was anti-imperialism as a libertarian too

06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; only libertarianism, like ancoms, has no plan and is basically ineffective against imperialism

06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; so it just kind of fluffs itself all day and listens to punk rock

06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; ok, im trying very hard to be more fair than that. jurys still out on ancoms

06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i gave libertarians enough time to get serious, will never happen.

06:56 TR News; More clowns... from "Senior Contributor I cover Clown Computing" https://www.forbes.com/sites/janakirammsv/2022/10/02/spectro-cloud-aims-to-simplify-managing-cloud-native-edge-infrastructure/?ss=cloud

=> ↺ https://www.forbes.com/sites/janakirammsv/2022/10/02/spectro-cloud-aims-to-simplify-managing-cloud-native-edge-infrastructure/?ss=cloud

06:56 TR Bot; Spectro Cloud Aims To Simplify Managing Cloud Native Edge Infrastructure

06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; al sweigart seems to love an-coms. hates stallman.

06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; he gives more money to an-com youtubers than i ever gave to the fsf

06:57 TR News; "Any member of the campus community who participates in the clinic will receive a meal voucher worth up to $10 for vendors in the Nebraska and Nebraska East unions." https://news.unl.edu/newsrooms/today/article/university-to-host-covid-vaccine-clinic-on-oct-10/

=> ↺ https://news.unl.edu/newsrooms/today/article/university-to-host-covid-vaccine-clinic-on-oct-10/

06:57 TR Bot; University to host COVID vaccine clinic on Oct 10 | Nebraska Today | University of NebraskaLincoln

06:57 highest_cubist_thrills; the thing that fucks me off about them isnt their goal

06:57 highest_cubist_thrills; its their methods

06:57 highest_cubist_thrills; they say anarchy isnt chaos, then they spend endless years taking each other out

06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; nobody expects the civil inquisition!

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06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; "welcome to anarcho-communism. all fire is friendly fire!"

06:58 TR News; They pay like $100 for PATENT licences for 3 shots (that cost cents to make) and only 10 bucks to people who then become CLIENTS of the VENDOR, lacking any long-term clinical trials, so they compel you to also sign a waiver.

06:59 highest_cubist_thrills; "if you arent shooting at your own comrades youre not a real anarchist!"

06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 71.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 109.58

06:59 highest_cubist_thrills; who knows what draws al sweigart to this. personally im fascinated.

7 AM, October 3

07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; id LOVE to ask him. would he give an honest answer? because seriously, any answer i can imagine only brings with it more questions.

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07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; im probably giving him too much credit. flawed philosophy (which sweigart loves) is like the dna in jurassic park

07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; if they cant get a complete genome they just throw whatever frog dna or whatever they can find

07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; "hey buddy! wanna buy the philosophical equivalent of 'junk dna'?"

07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; "sure um, you look like a reputable business owner."

07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; so trying to understand the logic is probably like trying to find a pattern in white noise

07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont have a fucking clue what theyre doing

07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; but the goal is righteous, so smash until someone rebuilds it as something better

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07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; then smash that too! its worked so far

07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; this wont become a tool of corporations or anything

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07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; iraq is bad! smash!

07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; halliburton: "who sent these guys?"

07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; "i dont know, but like the cut of their jib!"

07:04 highest_cubist_thrills; al sweigart: cancel mob the boring stuff

07:06 highest_cubist_thrills; if you wonder why i keep mentioning sweigart its because hes a financial connection between left anarchists and the coup

07:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i tried to get away from him but hes fucking everywhere

07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; you know those crazy stories about george soros?

07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; al sweigart is like the an-com mini me of that

07:07 TR News; iTWire - Even Barnaby Joyce knows Optus attack was anything but sophisticated! https://itwire.com/open-sauce/even-barnaby-joyce-knows-optus-attack-was-anything-but-sophisticated.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/open-sauce/even-barnaby-joyce-knows-optus-attack-was-anything-but-sophisticated.html

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07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean make no mistake, im exaggerating. just less than you might think.

07:07 TR Bot; - Even Barnaby Joyce knows Optus attack was anything but sophisticated!

07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its absolutely wild

07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; and you can totally make up a scenario (its just one of countless possibilities, so im not by any means assuming its true)

07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; where mjg got sucked into this like a cult

07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; you can just as easily say swiegart did

07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; these developers dont know shit about politics. if they did, they wouldnt work for fucking google for christs sake

07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre useful pawns

07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; im not trying to get them off the hook. i call them traitors.

07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; but i am interested in the whole story. whatever the fuck it is.

07:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but the story has so many interesting twists to it

07:10 TR News; "This is the 21st Discworld novel and relies on the previous Watch novels for characterization and cast development. I would not start here." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-06-228020-1.html

=> ↺ https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-06-228020-1.html

07:10 TR Bot; Review: Jingo by Terry Pratchett

07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; we are in the phase of free software history where it gets destroyed

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07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; no ones really fighting it, people pretend

07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; some even believe they are doing something. im not against trying-- they should keep trying if they really believe in the idea.

07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; trying wont do shit right now. but if theyre really trying, that might keep some spark of the idea alive

07:12 TR News; IBM-sponsored propaganda/marketing site propels the false narrative of "supply chain" to demonise stuff while totally overlooking CISA/NSA back doors -- the real issue along with outsourced manufacturing of hardware https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/software-supply-chain-attacks-are-a-growing-threat/

=> ↺ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/software-supply-chain-attacks-are-a-growing-threat/

07:12 TR Bot; Software Supply Chain Attacks Are A Growing Threat - IT Jungle

07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; im not against that at all.

07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; im only against people pretending theyre doing more than theyre actually doing

07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; pretending non-results are results.

07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; because thats horseshit.

07:13 highest_cubist_thrills; thats how you get quack medicine

07:13 highest_cubist_thrills; you whip together some ingredients that might work based on some incomplete or exaggerated research

07:13 highest_cubist_thrills; then you call it a cure and you scam people

07:14 TR News; "We go hands-on at NASA's JPL and learn why Linux is the best OS for Earth and Mars." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8877

=> ↺ https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8877

07:14 highest_cubist_thrills; thats how people end up dead from "horse" medicine

07:14 highest_cubist_thrills; you can do that with political strategy too

07:15 highest_cubist_thrills; whip together a bunch of tactics, unleash them and pretend it did any good, when it made things worse

07:15 highest_cubist_thrills; they destroyed the fsf

07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; they were useful pawns. they did about as much for the fsf

07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; as cancelling eich did for mozilla

07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg: post-stallman free software

07:16 TR News; Timothy Prickett Morgan = paid and bought ICBM shill. Some still treat him as independent journalist, despite the trail of bribes. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/we-need-some-insight-from-you/

=> ↺ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/we-need-some-insight-from-you/

07:16 TR Bot; We Need Some Insight From You - IT Jungle

07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; look at how post-eich mozilla worked out

07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; web with drm, microsoft owns webkit AND gecko

07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; icecat is source only but who wants to compile the ocean?

07:17 TR News; (NEW): CPU-X an Alternative to CPU-Z for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CPU_X_an_Alternative_to_CPU_Z_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CPU_X_an_Alternative_to_CPU_Z_for_Linux.gmi

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07:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines CPU-X an Alternative to CPU-Z for Linux

07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; just to get stuck in the middle of it on a fucking raft

07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; theyd rather use emacs

07:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: PornHub has a UK post.

07:18 DaemonFC; Searches for pegging spike the same time the Queen dies.

07:18 DaemonFC; I smell a conspiracy.

07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; post-eich mozilla is literally a $cam

07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; post-stallman f$f is bullshit

07:19 schestowitz[TR]; an influx of mozilla talent at sellout

07:19 schestowitz[TR]; people froim FB

07:19 schestowitz[TR]; from Microsoft

07:19 schestowitz[TR]; from CIA, literally

07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; they did need to replace stallman, somehow

07:20 schestowitz[TR]; from assassination mission to non-profit :-)

07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but there was hardly any point, if they were going to destroy everything he worked for as a biproduct

07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; smash the bakery!

07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; great, what will you eat

07:20 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.gmi

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07:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; smash the hospitals!

07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; fucking morons.

07:20 TR News; (NEW): Vim vs Neovim: Functionalities, and Strengths http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Vim_vs_Neovim_Functionalities_and_Strengths.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Vim_vs_Neovim_Functionalities_and_Strengths.gmi

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07:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Vim vs Neovim: Functionalities, and Strengths

07:20 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.gmi

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07:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers

07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; these are the same idiots that let stalin rise to power

07:21 TR News; (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.0 is Officially Out with Run-Time Kernel Verification http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Linux_Kernel_6_0_is_Officially_Out_with_Run_Time_Kernel_Verific.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Linux_Kernel_6_0_is_Officially_Out_with_Run_Time_Kernel_Verific.gmi

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07:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.0 is Officially Out with Run-Time Kernel Verification

07:21 schestowitz[TR]; one moment you overthrow a government

07:21 schestowitz[TR]; the next moment you overthrow mozilla geeks

07:21 schestowitz[TR]; and instyall fake security

07:21 schestowitz[TR]; and add lots of spyware to firefox

07:21 schestowitz[TR]; to level the playing field... for spies

07:21 highest_cubist_thrills; overthrow the boring stuff

07:21 TR News; (NEW): Next Phase For Rust In The Linux Kernel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Next_Phase_For_Rust_In_The_Linux_Kernel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Next_Phase_For_Rust_In_The_Linux_Kernel.gmi

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07:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Next Phase For Rust In The Linux Kernel

07:22 highest_cubist_thrills; to the extreme!

07:23 highest_cubist_thrills; https://mcninja.fandom.com/wiki/King_Radical

=> ↺ https://mcninja.fandom.com/wiki/King_Radical

07:23 TR Bot; King Radical | McNinja Wiki | Fandom

07:24 highest_cubist_thrills; if you read the entire comic, king radical ceases to be a parody

07:24 highest_cubist_thrills; he wants to replace everything in the universe with something less boring

07:25 highest_cubist_thrills; open source was always the "cool" version of free software

07:26 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KjB6r-HDDI0

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KjB6r-HDDI0

07:26 TR Bot; Wayne's World (6/10) Movie CLIP - I Will Not Bow to Any Sponsor (1992) HD - Invidious

07:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i like that rob lowe was in two successful mike myers franchises

07:26 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey-2-53-14-and-noscript-crashes-palefills-not-working-more-grumbling-about-google-and-microsoft-webmail-open-source-mozilla-security-theater-software-bloat-and-matthew-garre/

=> ↺ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey-2-53-14-and-noscript-crashes-palefills-not-working-more-grumbling-about-google-and-microsoft-webmail-open-source-mozilla-security-theater-software-bloat-and-matthew-garre/

07:26 TR Bot; Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript crashes/Palefills not working. More grumbling about Google and Microsoft WebMail, open source, Mozilla, security theater, software bloat, and Matthew Garrett. | BaronHK's Rants

07:27 highest_cubist_thrills; wayes world, then he played #2 in austin powers

07:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I hate Webmail, but I think I got Windows and Garrett pretty good at the end.

07:28 TR News; 3 Techrights posts about EPO coming later this morning

07:29 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.gmi

07:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "you can stay in the big leagues and play by the rules, or you can go back to the farm club in aurora."

07:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

07:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "wayne, what the hell are you doing?"

07:29 TR News; / | Gemini address: /

07:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "same thing weve always done"

07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "youve humiliated our sponsor"

07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "shyeah."

07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "youre fired!"

07:30 TR News; Links 03/10/2022: Linux 6.0 is Out | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-is-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-is-out/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-is-out/
=> gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-is-out/

07:30 TR Bot; Links 03/10/2022: Linux 6.0 is Out | Techrights

07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "fired? for that? thats it, im outta here-- and im taking my show with me"

07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "we OWN the show"

07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; yep.

07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; they sure do.

07:31 schestowitz[TR]; a show called after you

07:31 schestowitz[TR]; they "own" you

07:31 schestowitz[TR]; you signed away your name

07:31 highest_cubist_thrills; still no idea what the fuck THIS is https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/help-others-find-free-software-watch-and-share-escape-to-freedom

=> ↺ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/help-others-find-free-software-watch-and-share-escape-to-freedom

07:31 TR Bot; Help others find free software: Watch and share Escape to Freedom Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

07:31 schestowitz[TR]; bears and stuff

07:31 highest_cubist_thrills; you signed away your nam <- waynux

07:32 schestowitz[TR]; the artist threw some repertoire in

07:32 highest_cubist_thrills; shoetool wasnt bad, but it marked the transition of the fsf from advocacy to pointless television

07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; its not that video is a bad medium. its that the message has nothing to back it with.

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; ikt's expensive

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; these videos have high budget

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; *it's

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; not sure how many watch these

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; and whether it justified the expense

07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean expensive videos arent videos if theyre volunteer created

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; after zoe they do some translation

07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; but if theyre paying for that

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; like mandarin

07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; hey, the treasurer is president

07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; if they paid a dollar for escape to freedom, they got ripped off

07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; it has no story and no point

07:34 schestowitz[TR]; shoe.tools

07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; its honestly crap

07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; shoe.tools <- heh

07:35 schestowitz[TR]; "HEEL!"

07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; contrapoints would have made a video 100 times better than escape to freedom

07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; she probably would have sided with open source though

07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; but the thing about contrapoints is that when she disagrees with someone

07:35 TR News; IBM i 7.3 Loses Standard Support On April 28, 2023 - IT Jungle https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/ibm-i-7-3-loses-standard-support-on-april-28-2023/ ICBM = ripoff

=> ↺ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/ibm-i-7-3-loses-standard-support-on-april-28-2023/

07:35 TR Bot; IBM i 7.3 Loses Standard Support On April 28, 2023 - IT Jungle

07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; shes really honest when she thinks someone is right

07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; not just in a fair and balanced way, but in a way that makes you see the world in greater detail and maybe wisdom

07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; funded by al sweigart, alas. not her fault. im sure she has no idea who al sweigart is

07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; unless she codes in python or something

07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; he funds all the lefttubers

07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; he funded the video on cancel culture that talks about what he did to stallman

07:38 highest_cubist_thrills; its an amazing video

07:38 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8

07:38 TR Bot; Canceling | ContraPoints - Invidious

07:38 highest_cubist_thrills; shes being cancelled for doing a show with hillary clinton

07:39 highest_cubist_thrills; i could have met her years ago. i did not want to touch her hand

07:39 highest_cubist_thrills; the show with clinton, terrrrrrrible move

07:39 highest_cubist_thrills; if i read into her most recent video, all of her energy (and fucking sense) is going into quitting drinking. or im way off.

07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; so i can see how (some will think this is unfair. i dont) she lacks the energy to make reasonable decisions about who she associates with

07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; especially since while its true that clinton is a war criminal and one of the more horrible people on earth, imo

07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; along with everyone else in her circle

07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; which includes most of the republican party (including trump) imo

07:41 highest_cubist_thrills; the fact is, she got canceled just as hard for letting a trans adult star do a VOICEOVER in one of her videos

07:41 highest_cubist_thrills; because hes not a woke enough trans person

07:42 highest_cubist_thrills; some trans people are like "youre not REAL trans unless you... x y z"

07:42 highest_cubist_thrills; and he ONCE SAID something that SOUNDS LIKE he might be one of those people

07:42 highest_cubist_thrills; so by association, she is one of those people ("truscum") because she "associated" with him

07:43 highest_cubist_thrills; twitter is like the fucking stasi.

07:43 highest_cubist_thrills; so yeah, its more than a faux pas to go for drinks and dancing with a war criminal

07:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but if it was a trans person who isnt the right sort of trans politically, thats just as bad to these people

07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; theres no sense of proportion. at all. none.

07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; sound like anyone you know?

07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; from google or anything

07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; granted i talk about ibm like theyre the fucking third reich

07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but thats because they literally were the third reich.

07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; and no one seems to have much of a problem with that

07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; in the stallman version of this

07:45 highest_cubist_thrills; hillary clinton and war criminals are fine

07:45 highest_cubist_thrills; but buck angel? doing a voice over? how dare you!

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07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; "but also like the guillotine, it CAN become a sadistic entertainment spectacle"

07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; hitler used a guillotine

07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; they used pretty much any lethal means they could get their goosestepping little hands on

07:50 highest_cubist_thrills; dont worry about mike godwin, hes fucking dead

07:50 highest_cubist_thrills; tragic accident de-lousing some clothing. he will be missed.

07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; in zee end it was zee law zat killed him

07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; Did You Know The Nazi's Killed 16,000 People By Guillotine?

07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4604772/Nazi-head-hunter-invented-guillotine-killed-3-000.html

07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; Nazi executioner Johann Reichhart killed over 3,000 people during his career Reichhart ended lives of criminals and dissidents with the plunge of a guillotine

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07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; The Nazi's Killed 16,000 <- obviously THAT wasnt working

07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; too slow.

07:53 highest_cubist_thrills; the needed to find a way to get ahead. sorry.

07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i know the adl is going to be after me now, but it only says "criminals and dissidents with the plunge of a guillotine

07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and that sounds like they were still ROUNDING UP the jews

07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; so maybe they were killing aryans and catholics

07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and cathoics, as the adl should know, are a mixed bag.

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07:55 highest_cubist_thrills; but 16,000 is so few you dont even need ibm to count them.

07:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean thats what the third reich looks like when you dont "automate the boring stuff with dehomag"

07:55 highest_cubist_thrills; sorry, al.

07:59 TR News; Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/
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07:59 TR Bot; Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights

07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 52.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 99.30

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8 AM, October 3

08:00 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I've jsut republished your post

08:00 schestowitz[TR]; the troll asked me tom publish hhis posts too

08:00 highest_cubist_thrills; yes but it was a rhetorical point

08:00 schestowitz[TR]; but that same troll said we should shun and not publish and not even deal with bugs from tranphobes

08:00 highest_cubist_thrills; he doesnt care if you publish him or not

08:00 schestowitz[TR]; the troll said he was a transpobe

08:00 schestowitz[TR]; after a phd from cambridge

08:00 schestowitz[TR]; so I cannot repost an article for him

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08:01 highest_cubist_thrills; the troll said he was a transpobe <- i knew youd make this THE meme of 2022

08:01 schestowitz[TR]; I don't, according to him, have the capacity for publishing technical posts from transpohbes

08:01 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: yes

08:01 schestowitz[TR]; he said,

08:01 schestowitz[TR]; we should shun them

08:02 schestowitz[TR]; and then said he too is the one to be shunned

08:02 schestowitz[TR]; he's a joke on two thun legs

08:02 schestowitz[TR]; *thin

08:02 highest_cubist_thrills; hes at a point where his transphobic past is never going to bite him. as starstreak (correctly) points out, everyone was a transphobe back then.

08:02 schestowitz[TR]; notice he has been mostly shitting up since then

08:02 schestowitz[TR]; not the first time he makes self-incriminating brags

08:03 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: untrue

08:03 schestowitz[TR]; if you talk about 20 years backj

08:03 highest_cubist_thrills; notice he has been mostly shitting up since then <- if he takes a nap you act like hes waving a white flag though

08:03 schestowitz[TR]; now after a campaign of intimidation

08:03 schestowitz[TR]; many just don't talk aboutn it

08:03 schestowitz[TR]; that's not acceptance

08:03 schestowitz[TR]; it is self-censorship

08:03 schestowitz[TR]; and still about 95% of the world does not accept transd at all

08:03 schestowitz[TR]; that 9% includes women

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; (*95

08:04 highest_cubist_thrills; highest_cubist_thrills: untru <- its not untrue, his previous transphobia is never going to bite him. thats realistic.

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; so that's how it is

08:04 highest_cubist_thrills; what he cant appreciate is that it shouldnt have bitten stallman the way it did either.

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, back to tech now

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; the article is about Google and the Web

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; and email

08:04 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean apart from the fact that stallman isnt actually a transphobe. that too should matter.

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; we're facing issues here other than sw freedom

08:04 highest_cubist_thrills; but narratives > reality

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; but standards

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; and platforms

08:04 schestowitz[TR]; all that vendor lockin stuff, inc. the back doors that accompany that

08:05 schestowitz[TR]; rms was not even transphobic 20 years agoi

08:05 schestowitz[TR]; and yet the tolls who were pick on him

08:05 schestowitz[TR]; *trolls

08:05 highest_cubist_thrills; double standards and hypocrisy are cornerstones of cancel culture

08:05 schestowitz[TR]; and then have the audacity to accuse OTHERS of defamation

08:05 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, hypocrisy

08:06 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, so today we have some EPO leaks

08:06 schestowitz[TR]; and letters

08:06 highest_cubist_thrills; electric patent orchestra

08:06 schestowitz[TR]; and rianne finally deposits her naturalisation docs

08:06 highest_cubist_thrills; at least one of you will be british now

08:06 schestowitz[TR]; in truss britain iut's not a huge feature

08:06 highest_cubist_thrills; though tbh i assumed she was native.

08:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean i assumed she was born in the uk

08:07 schestowitz[TR]; this assumption sho0ws

08:07 schestowitz[TR]; privacy works

08:07 highest_cubist_thrills; well i have roughly zero interest in rianne as a person

08:07 highest_cubist_thrills; shes not relevant to anything i do

08:07 schestowitz[TR]; but I brought up this subject at one point, for some reason

08:07 schestowitz[TR]; maybe to boast about her perfect score

08:08 highest_cubist_thrills; perfect score on naturalisation?

08:09 highest_cubist_thrills; /me missed something somewhere

08:10 schestowitz[TR]; you might also assume the troll was born in England

08:11 schestowitz[TR]; but Northern Ireland was already in the UK

08:11 highest_cubist_thrills; anyway, emigrating to britain isnt easy, i should know

08:11 schestowitz[TR]; ""

08:11 schestowitz[TR]; The establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922 led to the remainder later being renamed the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in 1927. Anthem: "God Save the King" (180137, 190122) "God Save the Queen" (18371901)

08:11 schestowitz[TR]; brexit puts this at risk

08:11 schestowitz[TR]; same for sscotland

08:11 highest_cubist_thrills; no, i thought mjg was from northern ireland.

08:11 highest_cubist_thrills; which is british, but its also irish.

08:11 schestowitz[TR]; the appeal of being run by westminister is not there anymore

08:12 highest_cubist_thrills; which means hes british, but also irish.

08:13 highest_cubist_thrills; fun fact, the only reason i ever met someone from the fsf

08:13 highest_cubist_thrills; is because i recognised a belfast accent.

08:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont explain, but its quite true.

08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but i cant recognise other irish accents.

08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; ill guess theyre from south africa before i guess theyre from ireland! unless its a really obvious one

08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; like the irish equivalent of the crocodile hunter

08:15 highest_cubist_thrills; if you talk like youre doing a commercial for lucky charms, of course ill guess irish

08:15 highest_cubist_thrills; that cereal is not incredibly popular in ireland btw

08:16 highest_cubist_thrills; _()_/

08:17 DaemonFC; You know what really annoys the shit out of me. It's not trans people. It's the ones that say you're a transphobe just because you are mildly perplexed by the concept.

08:17 DaemonFC; Not actively trying to hurt them in any way.

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08:18 schestowitz[TR]; FSF needs to study https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#Concern_troll

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#Concern_troll

08:18 TR Bot; Internet troll - Wikipedia

08:18 schestowitz[TR]; they are too easily manipulated by them

08:19 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=quKaWlCalTg

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=quKaWlCalTg

08:19 TR Bot; Catherine Tate Show - Gay Son John HQ Part 3/5 - Invidious

08:19 highest_cubist_thrills; they are too easily manipulated by them <- money was the wrecking ball

08:19 schestowitz[TR]; "The authors noted that authorities tended to overlook or to deny situations that involve uncertainty while making unscientific arguments and disparaging comments in order to undermine opposing positions"

08:19 highest_cubist_thrills; trolls are just the squatters camped out in the ruins

08:19 schestowitz[TR]; "The New York Times reported in late October 2018 that Saudi Arabia used an online army of Twitter trolls to harass the late Saudi dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi and other critics of the Saudi government"

08:19 schestowitz[TR]; Twitter

08:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, they had trolls before

08:19 schestowitz[TR]; invested in by...

08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but the fsf has been full of holes left by money for ages

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; ""While corporate networking site LinkedIn is considered a platform of good taste and professionalism, companies searching for personal information by promoting jobs that were not real and fake accounts posting political messages has caught the company off guard

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft now blames "open source" for it

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/

08:20 TR Bot; Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; linkedin has problems

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; it's proprietary

08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; Microsoft now blames "open source" for it <- microsoft might as well blame microsoft

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; blame "open source"

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; my friend got scammed there

08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft <3 scapegoats

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; lost all his money

08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; we all got scammed by open source.

08:20 schestowitz[TR]; they also use "north korea" as scpegoat here

08:21 schestowitz[TR]; one of the least popular countries

08:21 schestowitz[TR]; but linkedin is not north korean

08:21 highest_cubist_thrills; to be fair, there isnt much you can say thats nice about north korea

08:21 highest_cubist_thrills; they have cute women pointing which way to turn on the roads.

08:21 highest_cubist_thrills; and even that is probably under the very worst of circumstances for the women.

08:22 schestowitz[TR]; ""

08:22 schestowitz[TR]; For example, a person who wishes to shame obese people, but disguises this impulse as concern for the health of overweight people, could be considered a concern troll

08:22 schestowitz[TR]; Like a tranphobe calling people "tranphobes"

08:22 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, theyve got that right

08:22 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman was cancelled by 3,000 shitlords.

08:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Browsing in SeaMonkey still performs well with JavaShit suppressed by NoScript.

08:22 schestowitz[TR]; it stared in 2019

08:22 schestowitz[TR]; with defamation

08:22 highest_cubist_thrills; 2018

08:22 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/

=> http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/

08:22 TR Bot; One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights

08:22 DaemonFC; If you don't run too much of that, then there's not a lot of "jank".

08:23 schestowitz[TR]; people still find this when they 'google' it

08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/

=> ↺ https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/

08:23 TR Bot; Is LibrePlanet Safe?

08:23 schestowitz[TR]; and it looks like a "legit" site

08:23 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: maybe

08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; without question.

08:23 schestowitz[TR]; but really more so in 2019

08:23 schestowitz[TR]; in 2018 it was Torvalds in the penalty box

08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; they want you to think it started

08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; in 2018 it was Torvalds in the penalty box <- didnt read the link then

08:23 schestowitz[TR]; because he upset the same people who a lear later "worked on" RMS

08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; hell, i got that link from you.

08:24 schestowitz[TR]; emboldened by the prior "success"

08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ <- stallman, not torvalds

=> ↺ https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/

08:24 schestowitz[TR]; they had a failed go in 2015 as well (same people) http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/

=> http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/

08:24 TR Bot; Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights

08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; youre flipflopping again. when i say it started in 2018 you say it started earlier

08:24 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/

=> http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/

08:24 TR Bot; My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights

08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; today you say it happened later

08:24 schestowitz[TR]; award to the man who 10 years ago was a tranphobe, by his own admission

08:24 schestowitz[TR]; for 25+ years

08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; if you stuck to facts you could have a more consistent narrative

08:25 DaemonFC; https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/california-high-school-football-slave-auction-reaj/index.html

=> ↺ https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/california-high-school-football-slave-auction-reaj/index.html

08:25 TR Bot; Valley High School in California cancels football season after athletes filmed staging 'slave auction' prank | CNN

08:25 highest_cubist_thrills; granted, if you do find out new information, better to incorporate new facts than worship consistency of error

08:25 DaemonFC; California: Where people "get it".

08:25 DaemonFC; - mjg59_

08:25 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: 2008/9

08:25 schestowitz[TR]; guadec

08:25 highest_cubist_thrills; thats better

08:25 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2009/09/26/richard-stallman-smeared-for-truth/

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08:25 TR Bot; Richard Stallman is Not the Bad Guy | Techrights

08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; not a new phenomenon

08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; but it goes to show you-- they never stop

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; the term is new

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; "cancel culture"

08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; they are relentless until their goal is achieved

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; I think it's a term coined by the righ wing

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; so I try not to use it much

08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i consider that before the coup though.

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; same for several pther loaded terms

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; that get you mis-branded

08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; I think it's a term coined by the righ wing <- so I try not to use it muc <- you give them way too much credit.

08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; youre like that communist i knew from greece, right before i started helping you out.

08:27 schestowitz[TR]; no, you avoid the ad hom

08:27 schestowitz[TR]; as best you can

08:27 highest_cubist_thrills; he thought "cultural marxism" was an alt right thing.

08:27 highest_cubist_thrills; if he knew anything he would know it was nearly identical to a complaint made by lenin himself.

08:27 highest_cubist_thrills; about "cultural chauvanists"

08:27 highest_cubist_thrills; which is EXACTLY what cancel culture is: cultural chauvanism

08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; a group of petty bourgiosie that think themselves superior to "less educated" proles

08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; in other words, wokeness DESERVES privilege.

08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; and the proles are too unrefined to be woke

08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; lenin complained about this 100 years ago

08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; you give credit to the alt-right

08:29 highest_cubist_thrills; if you can explain how lenin is alt-right, by my guest. you can do a series on it.

08:29 schestowitz[TR]; I think I read "cultural marxism" was a jordan peterson thinfg

08:29 highest_cubist_thrills; again-- you give the alt-right way too much credit

08:29 highest_cubist_thrills; you like them silence you by pretending to have invented things they appropriated from the left

08:29 schestowitz[TR]; mayeb

08:29 schestowitz[TR]; but the point is, hoosing terms carefully can help the message

08:30 schestowitz[TR]; to avoid false accusations

08:30 highest_cubist_thrills; the alt-right appropriates terminology from the left all the time

08:30 schestowitz[TR]; like, for instance, people who compare Pocock to Trump

08:30 highest_cubist_thrills; choosing terms carefully can help the message <- or it can make you afraid to make important points

08:30 schestowitz[TR]; which is insanely inadequate because his politics are to the left

08:30 highest_cubist_thrills; like ones about cancel culture.

08:30 schestowitz[TR]; spamnil tried to compare me to trump

08:30 highest_cubist_thrills; because youre afraid of being lumped in with people who appropriated the term.

08:30 schestowitz[TR]; he did not even bother explaining the similarity

08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; spamnil tried to compare me to trump <- of course he did. hes an idiot.

08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; and trump was basically satan and darth vader and hitler rolled into one at the time

08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; so he compared you to satan himself

08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; a very old trick

08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; he might as well have said you were a witch.

08:32 highest_cubist_thrills; he gets no points for originality, or accuracy.

08:32 highest_cubist_thrills; but then hes spamnil, so this is no surprise

08:32 highest_cubist_thrills; uses a mac and calls it linux

08:32 highest_cubist_thrills; accuracy is definitely not his forte

08:33 schestowitz[TR]; the contexts were

08:33 schestowitz[TR]; several times when I showed he was shilling anti-FOSS stuff

08:33 schestowitz[TR]; and his response was, several times, was you're trump

08:33 schestowitz[TR]; or like trump

08:33 highest_cubist_thrills; yep

08:33 schestowitz[TR]; which not even remoately made sense

08:33 highest_cubist_thrills; that was a thing for a few years

08:33 schestowitz[TR]; because I did not even say anything political

08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; well i explained the entirety of the logic behind it

08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; you just pick the worst person on earth

08:34 schestowitz[TR]; at the time he kept blustering in twitter about trump

08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; then you say "youre like them"

08:34 schestowitz[TR]; preying on his mind as an immigrant

08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; reductio ad trumpium

08:34 schestowitz[TR]; he boasted he would not allow trump on his show

08:34 schestowitz[TR]; a show that nowadays struggles to get 10 views per "episode"

08:34 schestowitz[TR]; so he pays for bots

08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; because trump was like "i definitely want to go on this guys show" and spamnil was like FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!

08:35 schestowitz[TR]; to boost it like 50x-100x the real views

08:35 mjg59_; highest_cubist_thrills: I was born in Ireland, but largely grew up in Northern Ireland

08:35 highest_cubist_thrills; he cant even get hillary clinton because he isnt gutsy.

08:35 *schestowitz[TR] checks views

08:35 highest_cubist_thrills; I was born in Ireland <- ah, i was wrong

08:36 schestowitz[TR]; lol, 3 days ago, 12 views

08:36 highest_cubist_thrills; i assumed you were from the north originally

08:36 schestowitz[TR]; assume 2 are spamni checking his own video

08:36 schestowitz[TR]; one is the gust

08:36 *DaemonFC throws a potato at mjg59_

08:36 schestowitz[TR]; so abouti 9 views... after 3 days

08:36 DaemonFC; Not even a good potato. One of those crap ones from Indiana.

08:36 DaemonFC; I'm not going to waste an Idaho on you, buddy.

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; lo, there ios a view there from 3 weeks ago

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; 15 views

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; less than one per day

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; he wastes a lot of energy mixing up the mac

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; to make videos nobody watches and mostly bots 'click'

08:38 highest_cubist_thrills; /me speaks involuntarily with a northern accent for 3 days afterwards after any viewing of "ronin" despite mcelhones terrible northern accent

08:38 highest_cubist_thrills; but originally it lasted about a year

08:38 DaemonFC; I keep finding dead GUI stuff in SeaMonkey and pointing it out for deletion.

08:38 DaemonFC; I just found some more that survived the last batch. :P

08:39 highest_cubist_thrills; /me sounded MUCH cooler back then

08:39 highest_cubist_thrills; its too bad i dont have that anymore

08:39 DaemonFC; I got some more of the last tenants parking tickets. The woman is a goddamned menace.

08:40 DaemonFC; I wish they'd quit sending them here. I told them she doesn't live here.

08:41 DaemonFC; They have some lawyers in Chicago after her for $3,000 in unpaid parking tickets to City of Waukegan.

08:41 DaemonFC; You can thank Prickster for that. He's the one that passed the "They can't make anyone pay up or revoke their license because rayciss!" law.

08:42 highest_cubist_thrills; shes from surrey but both her parents were irish

08:42 DaemonFC; It's not that hard to obey the traffic laws. I have had three parking tickets in my life. One was $5 and I just laughed and paid it, and the other two were from a university that couldn't do anything about it because I wasn't a student there and they couldn't withhold transcripts.

08:43 DaemonFC; The $5 one was a laugh because I was parked in a two hour spot every day all day for 8 months before they ticketed me.

08:43 TR News; "Its my observation that people who have fully formed political opinions when they were in their 20s and had managed to graduate college with a PhD dont actually change them. If anything, they just get smart and dont advertise it so they can remain employable." http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/

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08:43 TR Bot; Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights

08:44 *DaemonFC waterboards mjg59_ with mashed potatoes.

08:45 DaemonFC; Not even good mashed potatoes. Those crummy Save-A-Lot instant potatoes with margarine instead of butter.

08:46 DaemonFC; That ought to get a real confession.

08:46 DaemonFC; I want to know who paid you for Secure Boot and when's the last time you actually had a transphobic thought, you transphobe!

08:48 DaemonFC; Oh, not talking, eh? Another scoop..... NOW WHO'S A F***IN' WIKI?

08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; trying to trick straight men into thinking theyre gay

08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; "did you put tap water in my drink?"

08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; "no, that only works on frogs"

08:49 DaemonFC; I found a Nintendo 64 emulator written in JavaScript.

08:49 DaemonFC; Like....why?

08:50 DaemonFC; Even on some shitass Chromebook, you can run Retroarch.

08:50 highest_cubist_thrills; "i thought you were supposed to kiss them"

08:50 highest_cubist_thrills; "i mean after a couple glasses of tap water theyre ready for a lot more than that"

08:50 highest_cubist_thrills; ribbit... for her pleasure

08:52 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg have you seen this https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8

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08:52 TR Bot; Canceling | ContraPoints - Invidious

08:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i cant get over it because one of the people in the (patreon) credits signed the now infamous letter

08:53 highest_cubist_thrills; chalk it up to coincidence, he still funded her afterwards

08:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think this proves anything except that the world is a strange place

08:55 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YGgjUFTfRl8

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08:55 TR Bot; John Lennon - Nobody Told Me - Invidious

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08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 66.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 74.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 96.68

08:59 highest_cubist_thrills; abstraction is when things become things

9 AM, October 3

09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; they were things before that but now theyre things

09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; abstraction is when things happen

09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; abstraction is when

09:01 highest_cubist_thrills; abstraction is

09:03 highest_cubist_thrills; presumption of guilt -> abstraction -> essentialism

09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; the examples a bit weak because as it was later found out...

09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; al sweigart could have provided a MUCH better example

09:08 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 02, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-proceedings-sunday-october-02-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-proceedings-sunday-october-02-2022/

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09:08 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 02, 2022 | Techrights

09:10 highest_cubist_thrills; 12:35 "you can pretend youre simply offering up criticism, when what youre really doing is attacking a persons career and reputation out of spite, envy, revenge, i- i mean it could be any motivation"

09:10 highest_cubist_thrills; dont worry al, she wasnt even talking about stallman.

09:11 highest_cubist_thrills; "petty sadism... maybe not the internets proudest moment, but..."

09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; she gets super cute sometimes and i just realised its when she takes her makeup off

09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; she looks good in makeup too, but glamourous and cute arent exactly the same

09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; 14:24 "james charles: is racist, ableist, transphobic, AND a sexual predator" -- may 2019 (twitter)

09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; is there a cancel culture form letter you can draft all these from or something?

09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; may 2019 (twitter)

09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; there must be a new variant of that letter out by now

09:17 TR News; ICBM hyping up Kubernetes https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/kubernetes-statistics-2022

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09:17 TR Bot; Kubernetes by the numbers, in 2022: 11 stats to see | The Enterprisers Project

09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; 2021-03-23 Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a dangerous force in the free software community for a long time. He has shown himself to be misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations of impropriety. These sorts of beliefs have no place in the free software, digital rights, and tech communities.

09:18 TR News; "These days, cash on hand is no longer a requirement, and Id argue that traffic isnt either just post online, and people worldwide can buy virtual lemonade." (if you don't value privacy and other rights) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/future-payments-6-predictions

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09:18 TR Bot; The future of payments: 6 predictions | The Enterprisers Project

09:18 TR News; (NEW): [LibreOffice] Content controls in Writer: PDF export and combo box type http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/_LibreOffice_Content_controls_in_Writer_PDF_export_and_combo_bo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/_LibreOffice_Content_controls_in_Writer_PDF_export_and_combo_bo.gmi

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09:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines [LibreOffice] Content controls in Writer: PDF export and combo box type

09:19 highest_cubist_thrills; he also made a nation or a planet radioactive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientology_security_checks

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientology_security_checks

09:19 TR Bot; List of Scientology security checks - Wikipedia

09:19 highest_cubist_thrills; im all for freedom 0, but thats definitely abusing freedom 0.

09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?"

09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Have you ever smothered a baby?"

09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Have you ever enslaved a population?"

09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Have you ever destroyed a culture?"

09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

09:21 highest_cubist_thrills; " Have you ever torn out someone's tongue?"

09:21 highest_cubist_thrills; fsf: definitely not literally!

09:22 TR News; Airbus AoA Angle of Attack sensor issue | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/airbus-aoa-angle-of-attack-sensor-issue/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/airbus-aoa-angle-of-attack-sensor-issue/

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09:22 TR Bot; Airbus AoA Angle of Attack sensor issue | Pen Test Partners

09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc

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09:22 TR Bot; Scientology - What are your crimes? - Invidious

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09:22 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi

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09:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat / IBM Leftovers

09:22 TR News; "IVM Development Group is pleased to announce the release of pg_ivm 1.3." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_ivm-13-released-2517/

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09:22 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: pg_ivm 1.3 released

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09:28 DaemonFC; highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever smothered a baby?"

09:29 DaemonFC; Have ya' ever eaten a baby? BABY! It's the other other white meat!

09:29 DaemonFC; I want mah baby back baby back baby back! I want mah baby back baby back baby back! Chili's baby back ribs!

09:30 DaemonFC; highest_cubist_thrills"Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?"

09:31 DaemonFC; No, it was just a happy accident that I accomplished evil purposes. Coming to Earth was entirely unplanned by me.

09:31 DaemonFC; highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever enslaved a population?"

09:31 DaemonFC; No, well, yes. I bought Plantation Mint tea before they renamed it Perfectly Mint. Which is enough in mjg59_'s book to call me a slave owning transphobe.

09:32 DaemonFC; highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever destroyed a culture?"

09:32 DaemonFC; No, but I've had some major international incidents.

09:33 DaemonFC; Do we accumulate sex objects?

09:33 DaemonFC; Well, I keep telling schestowitz[TR] to get rid of that butt plug, mjg59_

09:33 DaemonFC; But he just won't listen.

09:33 DaemonFC; So, sure, I guess.

09:35 DaemonFC; "Are you or have you ever been a Communist?"

09:35 DaemonFC; Immigration asks this.

09:37 highest_cubist_thrills; "so here it is, the 10 second voiceover that ruined a month of my life"

09:38 highest_cubist_thrills; it used to a few days in the stocks would put a person back on track

09:38 highest_cubist_thrills; not our natalie, she simply has no remorse

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09:50 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/30/man-out-on-bond-for-gun-charge-found-with-loaded-gun-at-seatbelt-enforcement-checkpoint-in-waukegan/

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09:50 TR Bot; Man out on bond for gun charge found with loaded gun at seatbelt enforcement checkpoint in Waukegan

09:53 highest_cubist_thrills; 38:37 she talks about how being constantly accused of being truscum has an effect similar to brainwashing (it doesnt take though)

09:53 highest_cubist_thrills; (at least with her it doesnt take)

09:54 highest_cubist_thrills; if youre going to brutally convince someone that theyre horrible and dont deserve their accomplishments because they need to become a good person for a change

09:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and they end up believing you

09:54 highest_cubist_thrills; you have an ethical obligation to either be right, or at least have tried your fucking damnedest to be right

09:56 highest_cubist_thrills; otherwise how are you different from eugene landy

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09:56 highest_cubist_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Landy#Legacy

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09:56 TR Bot; Eugene Landy - Wikipedia

09:57 highest_cubist_thrills; i suppose in fairness, landy was not a mob

09:57 highest_cubist_thrills; and you cant say a group of people are a SINGLE unethical therapist

09:58 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre only EMULATING one 3000th of an unethical therapist

09:58 highest_cubist_thrills; and in a democracy, that sort of two fingers up at ethical considerations should be possible after all

09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; 3000 mobsters > an uncountable (probably insignificant) group of "ethicists"

09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; so thats no problem

09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; at least its not unsurmountable

10 AM, October 3

10:02 TR News; Vaccination/innoculation is very important, but it seems to have been warped into a lucrative, high-end market (for the rich) with many unethical patents. The same happened with plastic surgery (not 'repairing' people with defects or after accidents) and hair removal (some people with chromosome issues grow think hair on the face, making it harder to socialiase and get jobs). Money corrupts science and medicine.

10:03 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.1.gmi

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10:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

10:03 TR News; (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 2nd, 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_2nd_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_2nd_2022.gmi

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10:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 2nd, 2022

10:03 highest_cubist_thrills; cancel culture isnt medicine

10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; in medicine, the dosage is part of the cure

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10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; you dose carefully so you Do No Harm

10:04 matteobin; Good morning everyone!

10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; with poison you dont have to be so careful

10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; with poison your only concern is that the dose is Strong Enough

10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; its pretty obvious which side of things cancel culture is on

10:05 schestowitz[TR]; Well, I keep telling schestowitz[TR] to get rid of that butt plug, mjg59_

10:05 schestowitz[TR]; if you start by baning one person for reason x

10:05 schestowitz[TR]; and it's not due to spam

10:05 schestowitz[TR]; then the slippery slope si there

10:05 schestowitz[TR]; we don't have anyone banned

10:05 highest_cubist_thrills; how often does a good doctor try to poison someone

10:05 schestowitz[TR]; harolp

10:06 schestowitz[TR]; harold shipman

10:06 schestowitz[TR]; \what's the "ski" in the US

10:06 matteobin; Have you heard of Debian decision regarding non-free firmware in the installer?

10:06 schestowitz[TR]; who also did the same?

10:06 schestowitz[TR]; dr. death?

10:06 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: yes, it's no big deal

10:06 schestowitz[TR]; fewer hoops to jump through

10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; actually dr death is a legitimate counter example

10:06 schestowitz[TR]; at least debian voted NOT to issue statement on RMS

10:06 matteobin; I was against it.

10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; but that was with consent of the patient

10:07 schestowitz[TR]; and voted to try to facilitate systemd alts

10:07 schestowitz[TR]; not that anything was done on it sfaterwards

10:07 highest_cubist_thrills; Have you heard of Debian decision regarding non-free firmware in the installer? <- they cancelled everyone that was in favour of keeping it out

10:07 schestowitz[TR]; it was two terms ago (Hartman)

10:07 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman

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10:07 TR Bot; Harold Shipman - Wikipedia

10:07 matteobin; The voting was right, I was just talking about my POV.

10:07 highest_cubist_thrills; in fairness free firmware is an extremely difficult battle

10:08 schestowitz[TR]; i forgot the surname of dr death

10:08 matteobin; I like the hoops I had to do, because they reminded me of the issue that is NON-FREE hardware.

10:08 schestowitz[TR]; searched the shipman article for sky and ski

10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; the two most impossible battles that free software has faced are probably free firmware and the death of free software.

10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; kevorkian.

10:08 schestowitz[TR]; ah, right

10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; jack kevorkian

10:08 schestowitz[TR]; another east european name

10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; who is now dr dead

10:08 schestowitz[TR]; not ski

10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think kevorkian was a bad doctor

10:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian

10:08 TR Bot; Jack Kevorkian - Wikipedia

10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; dnr lets people die.

10:08 matteobin; Anyway, I didn't want to interrupt you.

10:09 schestowitz[TR]; Armenian

10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; kevorkian just makes it faster and less painful.

10:09 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: no, you're not

10:09 schestowitz[TR]; you are on topic

10:09 schestowitz[TR]; we are not

10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; Anyway, I didn't want to interrupt you. <- i it was a worthy interruption

10:09 schestowitz[TR]; i see some trolls try to weaponise the debian GR to make snide remarks re FSF

10:09 schestowitz[TR]; which is revealing

10:09 schestowitz[TR]; as if software freedom is not "the enemy"

10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; you know what else is revealing

10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; debian is the largest group of cancellers in the entire 3000

10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; i counted 108 myself.

10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; someone from gnu counted 117 i think.

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; kevorkian like kardashian

10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; i have no idea

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, they too are of armenian descent

10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; keeping up with the kevorkians :)

10:10 matteobin; I know that firmware is everywhere, but it does not change the fact that non-free hardware is an issue worth fighting for.

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; their dad was the lawyer for oj siumpsion

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; there's something you want in your resume!

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; "my dad helped a murderer get away with it"

10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; if the glove does not fit, you must acquit!

10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; there's something you want in your resume! <- as a defence lawyer, you probably do

10:11 matteobin; Keeping the Debian installer the way it was it would have been better, because it highlighted the non-free hardware issue.

10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; Keeping the Debian installer the way it was it would have been better <- imo there was no reason for the installed to take a step backwards

10:11 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, I used usb keys

10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; devuan was a step backwards in 2015.

10:11 schestowitz[TR]; to add the missing drivers

10:12 schestowitz[TR]; it was only a problem when the hardware was so bad that no firmware for it existed

10:12 schestowitz[TR]; yet

10:12 matteobin; You started thinking about what really hardware means.

10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; the guy who made the installer for devuan DEMANDED non-free DRIVERS (non-free firmware is a separate issue)

10:12 schestowitz[TR]; sdrivers/firmware

10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; or he would walk

10:12 matteobin; Besides it wasn't so hard to add the firmware on a USB stick.

10:12 schestowitz[TR]; for you

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; i had to teach my wife how to do all that

10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; devuan has never been fully free. theyve talked of a fully free devuan for years

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; but

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; here is the thing?

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; who uses debian

10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i actually used a fully free devuan called gnuinos.

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; who will use debian?

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; the derivs of debian add those bits anyway

10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; debian: the universal sellout

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; debian does not target the joe and jane

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; and never reallllllllllllllllly did

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; thta's why ubuntu exists

10:13 schestowitz[TR]; hmm... restrating barrier

10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; and ubuntu and debian have been cross pollenating for years, like monsanto and... real farmers.

10:13 matteobin; I don't think Debian should be like Ubuntu.

10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; I don't think Debian should be like Ubuntu. <- nor do we

10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; (nor does any sane person imo)

10:14 matteobin; Debian should not by "easy" or "convenient" for the sake of it.

10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean those are buzzwords used to push corporate nonsense

10:15 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: yeah, we have chromeos

10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; windows is easy and convenient. so is apple linux-- i mean mac.

10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; sometimes the linux foundation gets them confused

10:15 schestowitz[TR]; to show us what happenss when pushingf comporomise to the max

10:15 schestowitz[TR]; email is gamil

10:15 schestowitz[TR]; browser is gulag

10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; webkit is microsoft.

10:15 schestowitz[TR]; desktop lacks bassssic features

10:15 schestowitz[TR]; and you can barely get anything done, even if gentoo is the base for it

10:15 schestowitz[TR]; chromeOS is a cautionary tale

10:15 matteobin; I used NVIDIA firmware and driver on Debian, the non-free ones. However I would have never wanted to change the DSC to reflect a temporary decision made for the sake of convenience.

10:16 schestowitz[TR]; when gnu/linux is made "mainstream" and accomplished almost nothing

10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu/microsoft https://techrights.org/2020/05/03/gnuhub-pt-1/

=> https://techrights.org/2020/05/03/gnuhub-pt-1/

10:16 TR Bot; Microsoft GNU-Hub (Part 1) | Techrights

10:16 matteobin; Debian should be above that.

10:16 schestowitz[TR]; it's global grep -R | ... |sed Microsoft Google

10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; I used NVIDIA firmware and driver on Debian, the non-free ones. However I would have never wanted to change the DSC to reflect a temporary decision made for the sake of convenience. <- theres merit in it being the exception rather than the rule

10:17 schestowitz[TR]; there is another aspect

10:17 schestowitz[TR]; gulag does all that "chromeboot" approval thing

10:17 schestowitz[TR]; so you don't get real choice of hardware

10:17 schestowitz[TR]; but they bought this company that let's you convert old geenral-purpose laptops into chromeos

10:17 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot the name. neverware?

10:17 schestowitz[TR]; *lets

10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; imagine if everyone knew how to replaced soldered ics (note: leah can do this. i cannot. mjg can. i could learn but lack the patience)

10:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverware

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverware

10:18 TR Bot; Neverware - Wikipedia

10:18 schestowitz[TR]; "Neverware is a New York City-based technology company and a subsidiary of Google. It is the developer of CloudReady, a distribution of Google's Chromium OS designed to be installed on existing computers (as opposed to Google's commercial version, Chrome OS, which is sold primarily as pre-loaded software on netbooks). Neverware markets CloudReady as a means to reuse older computers (particularly at schools), thus reducing electroni

10:18 schestowitz[TR]; c waste.

10:18 schestowitz[TR]; "

10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; we could just sell ics with unlucked bootloaders then.

10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; unlocked

10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; except for dmca or some bs

10:18 matteobin; I liked the Debian approach on non-free binaries, because even if Stallman is right, sometimes there's value in using an NVIDIA if you do have one.

10:18 schestowitz[TR]; debian has many derivatives

10:18 matteobin; However that should not be seen as a priority.

10:18 schestowitz[TR]; and that's good

10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; sometimes there's value in using an NVIDIA <- i agree with the point somewhat, more than the example...

10:19 schestowitz[TR]; it makes work on debian of very high impact

10:19 schestowitz[TR]; inn servers and devices

10:19 schestowitz[TR]; like Rapberry Pis

10:19 schestowitz[TR]; they don't need to make the base OS/template compromsing

10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; with free drivers, pushing only-free was a gambit that worked

10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; with free firmwre its far more difficult. maybe to the point where it just wont work

10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

10:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but that could also be because of the degree to which the movement is compromised

10:20 highest_cubist_thrills; they don't need to make the base OS/template compromsing <- right

10:20 matteobin; Non-free software sucks, I agree. But would it be better to throw away a piece of functioning hardware? NO! Use it, know the issue with it, but don't change the damn DSC because nowadays firmware is everywhere and it cannot be avoided.

10:20 schestowitz[TR]; mind you, they did not sell out

10:21 schestowitz[TR]; the proposed policy

10:21 schestowitz[TR]; or GR

10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; and if youre going to have non-free stuff, at least keep it separate

10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; you can do that with the repos.

10:21 schestowitz[TR]; says put it there but warn the user

10:21 schestowitz[TR]; so it's in the ISO

10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; not so much with the installer.

10:21 schestowitz[TR]; nothing to download on put on media device

10:21 schestowitz[TR]; the main issue was network cards

10:21 matteobin; It would have been better to have two separate installers.

10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; debian is not doing this as a strategy for freedom

10:21 schestowitz[TR]; because to get them going you needed some machine with a network

10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; therye doing this to cave to corporate wants

10:21 schestowitz[TR]; for other things maybe not

10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but they already sacrificed themselves on the altar of ibm

10:22 schestowitz[TR]; middle ground: debian include a few bits of firmware to get wifi going on widely used chips

10:22 matteobin; With two installers you are forced to make a choice, therefore you must think about it!

10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; their soul is sold

10:22 schestowitz[TR]; and then fetches the rest over the nwtwork

10:22 matteobin; Thinking is good!

10:22 schestowitz[TR]; many lapotps have no ethenet port anymore

10:22 schestowitz[TR]; and those that do are sold to people with no ethernet cables

10:22 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some routers have no ethernet ports either (anymore)

10:22 matteobin; Sorry for my language, I'm just a bit sad.

10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.en.html

=> ↺ https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.en.html

10:23 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills is a pessimist

10:23 schestowitz[TR]; that's OK

10:23 TR Bot; Avoiding Ruinous Compromises - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

10:23 schestowitz[TR]; but think of it from that POV

10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; many lapotps have no ethenet port anymore <- i think this is an exaggeration

10:23 schestowitz[TR]; RMS is also a pessimist

10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i do have one with not ethernet port

10:23 schestowitz[TR]; but that helps accomplish more

10:23 schestowitz[TR]; unlike the "OPEN SOURCCCE HAS WON" crowd

10:23 matteobin; I see his POV.

10:23 schestowitz[TR]; to quote Friedman too (Microsoft)

10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; RMS is also a pessimist <- mincer would say he wasnt pessimistic enough

10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i would agree

10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; "OPEN SOURCCCE HAS WON" crowd <- they did. they trampled free software and everything it stands for

10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; and sold the movement to corporations

10:24 schestowitz[TR]; "Value your freedom or you will lose it, teaches history."

10:24 schestowitz[TR]; -RMS

10:24 matteobin; I'm sad because this voting to me means that most DDs do not care about open hardware.

10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; now the whole operation is basically a sweatshop

10:24 schestowitz[TR]; on another occcasion he said ther battle is a perpetual one

10:24 schestowitz[TR]; and it's expected we can never win

10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; I'm sad because this voting to me means that most DDs do not care about open hardware <- most dds dont care about anything at all.

10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; debian stopped caring 7 years ago

10:25 matteobin; They would rather have more ignorant users.

10:25 schestowitz[TR]; but just fight to make things less bad than they would do WITHOUT resistance

10:25 schestowitz[TR]; like women fighting for abortion rights

10:25 matteobin; Ignorant != stupid

10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; its logo is freedom swirling down a toilet

10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; <- former debian user

10:25 matteobin; That's a nice one

10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; i used to give away free computers with debian on them

10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; with the sources.

10:25 schestowitz[TR]; we use debian on 4 machines here

10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; im sorry

10:26 schestowitz[TR]; still our daily driver

10:26 matteobin; Debian should educate people both on software and hardware freedom.

10:26 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: it's ok ;-)

10:26 schestowitz[TR]; no need to feel sorry ;-)

10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; Debian should educate people both on software and hardware freedom. <- including themselves. but its too late.

10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; debian stopped caring about freedom in 2014

10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; the die was cast

10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; they have always sided with gnome when it was about gnome vs freedom

10:27 matteobin; Removing that extra hoop you had to do to install non-free firmware was an educative process.

10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; mate valiantly tried to save people from gnome 3

10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome didnt care

10:27 matteobin; Maybe I'm just too strict. Who knows?

10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; debian crushed mate

10:27 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: thee compromise was not the worst

10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; Maybe I'm just too strict. Who knows? <- maybe you have principles for an actual reason

10:27 schestowitz[TR]; it still cautions the users

10:27 schestowitz[TR]; the way UBUNTU USED to do

10:27 schestowitz[TR]; like 10+ years ago

10:28 schestowitz[TR]; when you tried adding graphics drivrs

10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> matteobin: thee compromise was not the worst <- sigh, that didnt take long

10:28 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot the pertinent details, but remember the GUI a bit

10:28 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: there were more than 2 options

10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; there usually are, yes

10:28 matteobin; schestowitz[TR]: You are probably right, but I'm kinda new to GNU/Linux (about 4 years).

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; this is an ongoing fight

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; gnu/linux is widely used

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; less so on laptops, granted...

10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "ongoing"

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; but fewer people buy them anyway

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; so there are the mainstreamers

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; like chromsOS

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; basically spyware built on GNU/Linux base

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; and then there are those who try to change the (tech) world

10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; schestowitz[TR]: You are probably right, but I'm kinda new to GNU/Linux (about 4 years). <- you missed gnu/linux in its full glory

10:29 schestowitz[TR]; those are the ones who scold at firefox

10:29 matteobin; I've moved to GNU/Linux because I wanted to change the world for the better and I realised that IT was just a tool for rich people.

10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; it peaked in 2013.

10:30 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: it doesn't have to be like that

10:30 highest_cubist_thrills; I've moved to GNU/Linux because I wanted to change the world for the better <- its a good start at least

10:30 schestowitz[TR]; they lost their old revenue streams

10:30 schestowitz[TR]; like ICBM with its "legacy" OSes

10:30 schestowitz[TR]; so they have no choice but to embrace the "de facto" OS

10:30 matteobin; And because GNU/Linux is more fun.

10:30 schestowitz[TR]; which for most form factors is GNU/Linux

10:30 schestowitz[TR]; BSD in some sectors

10:31 schestowitz[TR]; so gnu/linux got divided

10:31 schestowitz[TR]; already int eh 90s

10:31 matteobin; C is fun, CLI is fun, suckless is fun: to me it's how computing should be.

10:31 schestowitz[TR]; but the drift widens

10:31 schestowitz[TR]; as some people reject pentagon giants

10:31 schestowitz[TR]; and some people are just market share money market share money market share money market share money market share money

10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; BSD in some sectors <- so gnu/linux got divided <- you heard orrectly. bsd went back in time to the 1970s to "divide" gnu/linux

10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; those bastards.

10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; if anything divided gnu/linux, it was linux.

10:32 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: not that

10:32 schestowitz[TR]; I'm talking about community vs corporate control

10:32 matteobin; People do care only about money in IT, it's so sad.

10:32 schestowitz[TR]; not the kernel/OS parts

10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; linux was a fatal wrong turn for gnu. they tried to avoid it.

10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> I'm talking about community vs corporate control <- well youre right, that did happen

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10:32 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: some are not IT

10:32 schestowitz[TR]; for example, failed biologists

10:32 schestowitz[TR]; who cannot find a job

10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; People do care only about money in IT, it's so sad. <- imo anticapitalism is the only hope free software has left

10:32 schestowitz[TR]; or zemlin

10:32 schestowitz[TR]; a branding loser

10:33 schestowitz[TR]; with no relevant qualifications or exprience

10:33 schestowitz[TR]; so they start preying on us

10:33 schestowitz[TR]; and then try to oust the best engineers

10:33 matteobin; And the worst part of it is that they do not want to feel responsible.

10:33 schestowitz[TR]; to make a name for themsleves and carve out territory

10:33 matteobin; Yeah, I was just talking about my work experiences.

10:33 highest_cubist_thrills; youre here for the death of free software, matteobin

10:33 schestowitz[TR]; and then bring other clueless people or, worse, our enemies

10:33 highest_cubist_thrills; definitely look into its life. its life is just as informative in the good parts.

10:34 matteobin; But I'm quite young... maybe things can change?

10:34 matteobin; I'll fight for it.

10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; things do change

10:34 schestowitz[TR]; no, he's her for the fight-back

10:34 schestowitz[TR]; few fight back as much as we do

10:34 schestowitz[TR]; we acknolwedge there is a problem adn work to be done

10:34 schestowitz[TR]; I set aside my career for this

10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> no, he's her for the fight-back <- its been 100+ years since the october revolution.

10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; the fightback can take a long time to come around.

10:34 schestowitz[TR]; this is about tech

10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> we acknolwedge there is a problem <- you downplay it for years at a time.

10:34 schestowitz[TR]; not full-blown political mayhem

10:34 matteobin; I'll probably be dead, but I hope I can help.

10:34 schestowitz[TR]; but those are connected

10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> not full-blown political mayhe <- obviously you know nothing about the october revolution.

10:35 schestowitz[TR]; when "dark budget" of pantagon is feeding the tech oppression

10:35 matteobin; I'm not interested in having a career in non-free software.

10:35 schestowitz[TR]; *pentagon

10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; I'm not interested in having a career in non-free software. <- good call. it would only suck.

10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; do you code?

10:35 schestowitz[TR]; I need to read more about it, I know what it is

10:35 schestowitz[TR]; a friend of mine bought a book on it

10:35 matteobin; However I do need a job and I don't know much else to do.

10:35 matteobin; I code for work.

10:35 matteobin; Don't laugh

10:35 schestowitz[TR]; october rev. had nothing to do with tech

10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; they overthrew the tsar and created a workers democracy, which stalin destroyed.

10:36 matteobin; I'm a full stack web developer at the moment.

10:36 schestowitz[TR]; but it was about worker-controlled society, to an extent

10:36 schestowitz[TR]; so some parallels do exist

10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; you might as well refer to the american revolution as "mayhem"

10:36 matteobin; I'm trying to change job.

10:36 schestowitz[TR]; and the s/w community can run the 'farms'

10:36 matteobin; I've refused several positions because of Windows.

10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; I code for work. <- but you code though

10:36 matteobin; At least, with my current change I can use Debian an a secondary HD.

10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; I'm a full stack web developer at the moment. <- so, server side too?

10:37 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: windows reemote?

10:37 schestowitz[TR]; or youw own machine

10:37 matteobin; Yes.

10:37 schestowitz[TR]; a company that force a PROGRAMMER to use Windows does not get tech

10:37 schestowitz[TR]; *forces

10:37 highest_cubist_thrills; cool, what do you code in for the server side?

10:37 matteobin; Most companies, at least in Italy, use Windows.

10:37 matteobin; I code in PHP mostly, a bit of Go.

10:38 matteobin; But I would like to work more with C.

10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; starstreak loves go

10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; she also likes c

10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i coded in php but not since they revamped it

10:38 schestowitz[TR]; not just in Italy

10:38 schestowitz[TR]; but ggood companies allow gnu/linux

10:38 matteobin; I both use Windows and Debian for work.

10:38 schestowitz[TR]; esp. for tech staff

10:38 schestowitz[TR]; even GAFAM

10:38 matteobin; Good companies are rare.

10:38 schestowitz[TR]; except Microsoft

10:39 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: and pay little

10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; matteobin you can code, so you can fight. but most people have stopped fighting

10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; they forgot what its about

10:39 schestowitz[TR]; proportionally

10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; they defend the software license but not the thing the license exists to serve.

10:39 matteobin; Besides what's the use of Debian, when you use Microsoft Teams? :D

10:39 schestowitz[TR]; but the total number of people ffighting is still high

10:39 schestowitz[TR]; it's just that we're taken away by so-called 'newbs'

10:40 schestowitz[TR]; who never got taught freedom

10:40 schestowitz[TR]; hence the efforts to discredit and marginalise FSF, RMS...

10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; or shills who pretended to care

10:40 schestowitz[TR]; "oooh,,, shinny... chromeOS... it's NOT WINDOWS"

10:40 matteobin; I don't use WhatsApp. My company does not like it, but it cannot force me to do it.

10:40 schestowitz[TR]; "ohhh, let's buy a MAC... to PUNISH Microsoft"|

10:40 matteobin; *use it.

10:41 schestowitz[TR]; spme companies want "apps"

10:41 schestowitz[TR]; and give you "free" phone

10:41 matteobin; Life is hard and difficult, but I will try to fight for Free Software.

10:41 schestowitz[TR]; so they can bother you 24/7

10:41 schestowitz[TR]; for 'free'

10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; I don't use WhatsApp. <- saying no to software that doesnt care about your freedom is the primary mechanism of fighting for free software

10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; the secondary mechanism is writing free software

10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; you can do both.

10:42 matteobin; I've set up a XMPP server for friends and family. The same foes for email and VoIP.

10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; nice

10:43 TR News; UK blind to new immune-evasive Covid variants creating perfect storm for devastating wave https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/uk-covid-variant-omicron-new-wave-b2183934.html

=> ↺ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/uk-covid-variant-omicron-new-wave-b2183934.html

10:43 TR Bot; UK blind to new immune evasive Covid variants creating perfect storm for devastating wave | The Independent

10:43 mjg59_; highest_cubist_thrills: I think "Advocating for software freedom" and "Helping people write free software" ought to fall into that space

10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; highest_cubist_thrills: I think "Advocating for software freedom" <- i lump this in with the first mechanism

10:43 matteobin; But sometimes I have to do bad things for my company.

10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; "Helping people write free software" <- and this with the second

10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; But sometimes I have to do bad things for my company. <- companies are like that sometimes

10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; if you can move away from that company all the better

10:44 matteobin; WordPress sites with Google Analytics.

10:44 matteobin; :(

10:44 matteobin; I'm looking... ;)

10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; you can help people block google at least

10:45 TR News; [Old] "We are happy to announce the Radxa Zero, a new member of our SBC family." https://forum.radxa.com/t/introduce-the-radxa-zero/6550/5 |

=> ↺ https://forum.radxa.com/t/introduce-the-radxa-zero/6550/5

10:45 TR Bot; Introduce the Radxa Zero - Zero Series - Radxa Forum

10:45 matteobin; The people who own those sites want Google! :D

10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; options arent the same thing as freedom. though a nice side effect of freedom (which some people like lennart complain bitterly about) is that freedom tends to create more options.

10:46 matteobin; Thanks for reading me about that Debian decision. I was a bit sad because of it.

10:46 TR News; "The research suggests that 74% of the IT decision makers surveyed have already decentralized their IT structures" https://www.techradar.com/news/more-non-it-workers-say-theyre-having-to-do-it-tasks-at-work-now | Source: TechRadar

=> ↺ https://www.techradar.com/news/more-non-it-workers-say-theyre-having-to-do-it-tasks-at-work-now

10:46 TR Bot; non-IT workers say they're having to do IT tasks at work now | TechRadar

10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; debian has made me sad for the better part of a decade

10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; im used to it

10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; they never made me sadder than they did in 2021.

10:47 highest_cubist_thrills; who knows what kind of bastardly deeds theyll get up to next

10:47 matteobin; Was that because of that Stallman hate letter?

10:47 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah im not a fan of the hate letter

10:47 TR News; instagram https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/01/business/instagram-suicide-ruling-britain.html | Source: New York Times

=> ↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/01/business/instagram-suicide-ruling-britain.html

10:47 TR Bot; British Ruling Pins Blame on Social Media for Teenagers Suicide - The New York Times

10:47 highest_cubist_thrills; 117 (i counted 108) debian people

10:47 highest_cubist_thrills; more than any other group

10:47 matteobin; I signed the Stallman love letter.

10:48 highest_cubist_thrills; more than gnome, more than ibm (gnome was also very prominent)

10:48 TR News; "how technology and modernity are negatively and chronically affecting our brains and behavior." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/books/review/stolen-focus-johann-hari-the-loop-jacob-ward.html | Source: New York Times

=> ↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/books/review/stolen-focus-johann-hari-the-loop-jacob-ward.html

10:48 TR Bot; Why Cant We Pay Attention Anymore? - The New York Times

10:48 highest_cubist_thrills; I signed the Stallman love letter. <- youre already a hero then

10:48 highest_cubist_thrills; do you have github account? i mean for anything besides work. sometimes work forces psople.

10:49 matteobin; I do, but I don't use it much.

10:49 matteobin; I've sent PR for small projects.

10:49 highest_cubist_thrills; does it have much on it? would you consider moving to another repo?

10:49 TR News; Brazil's election https://text.npr.org/1126161100 | Source: NPR

=> ↺ https://text.npr.org/1126161100

10:49 TR Bot; Brazil's election could determine the fate of the Amazon after record deforestation

10:49 TR News; Bitcoin crap https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-18686-8 | Source: Nature

=> ↺ https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-18686-8

10:49 TR Bot; Economic estimation of Bitcoin minings climate damages demonstrates closer resemblance to digital crude than digital gold | Scientific Reports

10:49 matteobin; I use GitHub just because some projects do. I send a PR and that's about it. I don't like it.

10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; network effects

10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; software has mass

10:50 matteobin; And when I get in contact with the project leader I try to convince that person to leave GitHub.

10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; but they dont because network effects

10:51 TR News; Misinformation https://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report-dna-special-how-american-outfit-iamc-is-spreading-fake-news-about-muslim-and-dalit-genocide-in-india-2989277 | Source: DNA India

=> ↺ https://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report-dna-special-how-american-outfit-iamc-is-spreading-fake-news-about-muslim-and-dalit-genocide-in-india-2989277

10:51 TR Bot; DNA Special: How American outfit IAMC is spreading fake news about Muslim and Dalit genocide in India

10:51 matteobin; The last three are mine: https://github.com/davidjoffe/dave_gnukem/pulls

=> ↺ https://github.com/davidjoffe/dave_gnukem/pulls

10:51 TR Bot; requests davidjoffe/dave_gnukem GitHub

10:51 highest_cubist_thrills; roy tells people that projects are leaving github

10:51 schestowitz[TR]; many are

10:51 highest_cubist_thrills; but theyre getting sucked in faster than theyre escaping.

10:51 TR News; "There is a kind of audacity in Major Garrett and David Becker titling their book The Big Truth: Upholding Democracy" https://text.npr.org/1126217354 | Source: NPR

=> ↺ https://text.npr.org/1126217354

10:51 TR Bot; Facts come to the rescue in the age of gaslighting

10:51 highest_cubist_thrills; so its net bullshit.

10:52 schestowitz[TR]; over time there are more git repos

10:52 highest_cubist_thrills; has webkit succumbed yet? they were planning to.

10:52 schestowitz[TR]; and they go in dirrerent directions

10:52 matteobin; I wouldn't use GitHub for my projects.

10:52 schestowitz[TR]; if the share that go to shithub is less than what it is now

10:52 highest_cubist_thrills; I wouldn't use GitHub for my projects. <- thats good

10:52 schestowitz[TR]; thenover time Microsoft loses share

10:52 schestowitz[TR]; until it's codeplex 2

10:52 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> if the share that go to shithub is less than what it is now <- considering your phd is basically in statistics, you should know better.

10:53 TR News; "Local media reported that the men published content related to Hong Kong independence" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/28/national-security-police-arrest-2-hong-kong-men-for-allegedly-publishing-seditious-social-media-posts/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press

=> ↺ https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/28/national-security-police-arrest-2-hong-kong-men-for-allegedly-publishing-seditious-social-media-posts/

10:53 TR Bot; National security police arrest 2 Hong Kong men for allegedly publishing seditious social media posts - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP

10:53 TR News; "A hearing date has not yet been fixed." https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/29/2-hong-kong-speech-therapists-apply-to-challenge-conviction-over-seditious-childrens-books/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press

=> ↺ https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/29/2-hong-kong-speech-therapists-apply-to-challenge-conviction-over-seditious-childrens-books/

10:53 TR Bot; 2 Hong Kong speech therapists apply to challenge conviction over 'seditious' children's books - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP

10:53 highest_cubist_thrills; let me know when youre not making much of a rounding error

10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; the projects that are hostages of github are the ones the movement relies on

10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; its nice that some new stuff is being built elsewhere

10:54 matteobin; Actually I don't like git web front-ends

10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and in the longrun that will help if those projects are not hijacked too

10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; Actually I don't like git web front-ends <- i dont like the web at all

10:55 matteobin; There are cool websites. How about this one: https://www.amigapage.it/index.php?op=v&pl=commenti&id=N20092022-2&page=1 :D

=> ↺ https://www.amigapage.it/index.php?op=v&pl=commenti&id=N20092022-2&page=1

10:55 TR Bot; Amigapage- Sito italiano dedicato ad Amiga

10:55 highest_cubist_thrills; if the web ceased to exist id much rather use alternatives.

10:55 highest_cubist_thrills; oh there are some very cool websites

10:56 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: https://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report-dna-special-how-american-outfit-iamc-is-spreading-fake-news-about-muslim-and-dalit-genocide-in-india-2989277 is misinformation, or it is describing misinformation?

=> ↺ https://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report-dna-special-how-american-outfit-iamc-is-spreading-fake-news-about-muslim-and-dalit-genocide-in-india-2989277

10:56 TR Bot; DNA Special: How American outfit IAMC is spreading fake news about Muslim and Dalit genocide in India

10:56 highest_cubist_thrills; its just the web is never going to stop trying to suck

10:56 TR News; "The High Court is expected to hand down a ruling on those disputes on Friday" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/28/hong-kong-media-tycoon-jimmy-lai-appeal-against-failed-bid-to-block-police-from-searching-his-phones/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press

=> ↺ https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/28/hong-kong-media-tycoon-jimmy-lai-appeal-against-failed-bid-to-block-police-from-searching-his-phones/

10:56 TR Bot; Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai appeals against failed bid to block police from searching his phones - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP

10:56 TR News; "Why it matters: News organizations go to great lengths to prevent the government from seeing their communications" https://www.axios.com/2022/09/30/trump-maggie-haberman-phone-records | Source: Axios

=> ↺ https://www.axios.com/2022/09/30/trump-maggie-haberman-phone-records

10:56 highest_cubist_thrills; its like a rich uncle that wont stop trying to pay you for...

10:56 TR Bot; Trump threatened to go after Maggie Haberman's phone records: new book

10:56 highest_cubist_thrills; anyway

10:57 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: what are you, racist or something?

10:57 highest_cubist_thrills; he used to be extremely racist (not really, afaik)

10:58 TR News; "The information was shared on Twitter by Iranian journalist and activist Masih Alinejad" https://www.firstpost.com/world/iran-woman-arrested-for-having-breakfast-without-wearing-hijab-11362271.html | Source: Firstpost

=> ↺ https://www.firstpost.com/world/iran-woman-arrested-for-having-breakfast-without-wearing-hijab-11362271.html

10:58 TR Bot; Iran: Woman arrested for having breakfast without wearing hijab

10:58 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: I'm saying that you just made an unclear statement and I'm asking what you actually meant

10:59 TR News; Software Patents ... attempts from the back door's Trojan horse https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2022/09/27/recently-introduced-bill-would-revise-patent-subject-matter-eligibility-framework/?slreturn=20220902185510 | Source: ALM

=> ↺ https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2022/09/27/recently-introduced-bill-would-revise-patent-subject-matter-eligibility-framework/?slreturn=20220902185510

10:59 TR Bot; Introduced Bill Would Revise Patent Subject Matter Eligibility Framework | New York Law Journal

10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 111.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 64.33

11 AM, October 3

11:00 highest_cubist_thrills; thoughts about the movement https://yewtu.be/watch?v=f74L2hRZE1Y

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=f74L2hRZE1Y

11:00 TR Bot; John Cleese Offered To Kill His Mom To Cheer Her Up | CONAN on TBS - Invidious

11:01 TR News; "In this guide, we will cover how to use conditional statements in the bash script" https://www.linuxbuzz.com/use-conditional-statements-if-else-in-bash-script/ | Source: Linux Buzz

=> ↺ https://www.linuxbuzz.com/use-conditional-statements-if-else-in-bash-script/

11:01 TR Bot; How to Use Conditional Statements (if-else) in Bash Script

11:02 TR News; "The latest and great version of the Linux kernel has been released with Linux 6.0 out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/linux-kernel-60-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/linux-kernel-60-is-out-now/

11:02 TR Bot; kernel 6.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux

11:05 TR News; Pro Publica talks about "trafficking", does not mention it bags bribes from Bill Gates, who was enabling underage sex trafficking with Jeffrey Epstein https://www.propublica.org/article/pig-butchering-scams-raided-cambodia-apple-trafficking

=> ↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/pig-butchering-scams-raided-cambodia-apple-trafficking

11:05 TR Bot; Alleged Cambodian Pig Butchering Scam Operations Raided ProPublica

11:05 TR News; "Drones are pretty common in the electoronics landscape today" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/winged-drone-gets-forward-flight-capability/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/winged-drone-gets-forward-flight-capability/

11:05 TR Bot; Drone Gets Forward Flight Capability | Hackaday

11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; "this is all lilys fault"

11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; "lily alba"

11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; "fuck her dreams"

11:16 *techuser has quit (connection closed)

11:17 *techuser (~techuser@vvbde374bfqga.irc) has joined #techrights

11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

11:28 TR News; "Google, Amazon and Apple are all duking it out for supremacy in the spy home space." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/homebrew-led-strips-that-are-homekit-compatible/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/homebrew-led-strips-that-are-homekit-compatible/

11:28 TR Bot; LED Strips That Are HomeKit-Compatible | Hackaday

11:31 TR News; iophk: DistroTube "avoids even mentioning the OEM monopoly; until vendors are allowed to sell with distros pre-installed, no one will be able to walk into a store and buy an off-the-shelf computer with GNU/Linux" https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/linux-must-mimic-windows-to-become:c

=> ↺ https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/linux-must-mimic-windows-to-become:c

11:31 TR Bot; Linux Must Mimic Windows To Become Popular

11:31 TR News; microsoft windows tco https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/6-windows-computer-habits-you-need-to-stop-avvRw5e9k48z

=> ↺ https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/6-windows-computer-habits-you-need-to-stop-avvRw5e9k48z

11:31 TR Bot; 6 Windows computer habits you need to stop - Which? News

11:37 psydruid; https://wccftech.com/amd-b650-motherboard-prices-msi-budget-friendly-starting-at-199-usd/

=> ↺ https://wccftech.com/amd-b650-motherboard-prices-msi-budget-friendly-starting-at-199-usd/

11:37 TR Bot; Budget & Mainstream Friendly AMD B650 Motherboards Prices Revealed, Starting at $199 US

11:38 psydruid; "Hardware must become expensive for it to be considered budget"

11:38 TR News; (NEW): GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/GNU_Linux_Libre_6_0_Kernel_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/GNU_Linux_Libre_6_0_Kernel_Released.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/GNU_Linux_Libre_6_0_Kernel_Released.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/GNU_Linux_Libre_6_0_Kernel_Released.gmi

11:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs

11:40 TR News; "i wonder what any of this has to do with tech rights" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2004:08:38

=> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2004:08:38

11:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022

11:41 TR News; "shuttleworth claimed he didn't think switching to systemd was a good idea, but didn't stop ubuntu from doing so" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011022.html#tOct%2001%2018:42:42

=> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011022.html#tOct%2001%2018:42:42

11:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 01, 2022

11:41 highest_cubist_thrills; i got a laptop for 300 new once, but there you have a mobo thats 200

11:41 TR News; ""Insecure Apps" Like Google gives a fuck about your security." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2005:08:14

=> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2005:08:14

11:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022

11:41 highest_cubist_thrills; i guess different budget budgets are budget

11:41 highest_cubist_thrills; it had a touchscreen. it wasnt a netbook. it was larger. and had a touchscreen.

11:42 TR News; "desperately need to hire a designer" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2008:10:50

=> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2008:10:50

11:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022

11:42 highest_cubist_thrills; /amd-b650 <- yeah, amd

11:43 highest_cubist_thrills; we make utter garbage. then we bribe people you know.

11:43 highest_cubist_thrills; then we overcharge. whats not to like

11:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont need to buy amd. i can just pay michael larabel directly for spouting bullshit.

11:44 highest_cubist_thrills; thats where the money is going anyway

11:44 highest_cubist_thrills; this may sound pro-intel. fuck intel. i hope they die.

11:44 highest_cubist_thrills; they both make garbage and the sooner both go to hell, the better

11:44 TR News; "The DA1470x is a BLE 5.2 SoC combining an Arm Cortex M33 processor" https://linuxgizmos.com/pro-dev-kit-features-da1470x-ble-socs-for-portable-iot-devices/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

=> ↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/pro-dev-kit-features-da1470x-ble-socs-for-portable-iot-devices/

11:44 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/pro-dev-kit-features-da1470x-ble-socs-for-portable-iot-devices/ )

=> ↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/pro-dev-kit-features-da1470x-ble-socs-for-portable-iot-devices/

11:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but i have no use for amd because its unusable shit.

11:44 TR News; "NVIDIA have done another new release to their developer-focused Vulkan Beta driver with 515.49.19 out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/nvidia-vulkan-beta-driver-5154919-is-out-now-driver-51576-causing-problems/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

=> ↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/nvidia-vulkan-beta-driver-5154919-is-out-now-driver-51576-causing-problems/

11:44 TR Bot; Vulkan Beta driver 515.49.19 is out now, driver 515.76 causing problems | GamingOnLinux

11:45 highest_cubist_thrills; its not hardware. its premium e-waste.

11:45 TR News; (NEW): Is your old computer obsolete, or is it a Linux opportunity? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Is_your_old_computer_obsolete_or_is_it_a_Linux_opportunity.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Is_your_old_computer_obsolete_or_is_it_a_Linux_opportunity.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Is_your_old_computer_obsolete_or_is_it_a_Linux_opportunity.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Is_your_old_computer_obsolete_or_is_it_a_Linux_opportunity.gmi

11:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Is your old computer obsolete, or is it a Linux opportunity?

11:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i prefer discount e-waste. wait until someone is disgusted, and give them back some of the money they lost on that bullshit.

11:46 highest_cubist_thrills; no ones happy-- but everyone is less miserable that way.

11:46 TR News; LOL. How to get BOTH Google and Microsoft to spy on you while you are using PROPRIETARY software. https://www.dignited.com/100680/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-chromebook/

=> ↺ https://www.dignited.com/100680/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-chromebook/

11:46 TR Bot; to install Visual Studio Code on your Chromebook - Dignited

11:46 highest_cubist_thrills; thats more than amd can say for their approach.

11:46 highest_cubist_thrills; fuck you, amd.

11:47 highest_cubist_thrills; please die

11:47 highest_cubist_thrills; /me asked nicely

11:47 TR News; "Typically, the audio coming out of your camera is not of the greatest quality." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/camera-mounted-stereo-mic-is-fluffy-and-capable/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/camera-mounted-stereo-mic-is-fluffy-and-capable/

11:47 TR Bot; Stereo Mic Is Fluffy And Capable | Hackaday

11:48 highest_cubist_thrills; intel started the same way as amd-- as a relatively generic brand selling someone elses design :)

11:48 highest_cubist_thrills; i think thats funny. whats less funny is they still exist.

11:50 TR News; "The Queens final act of service to the nation was to selflessly buy the economy one last fortnight" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/02/britannia-unhinged-uks-return-trickle-down-economy-suicide | Source: Common Dreams

=> ↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/02/britannia-unhinged-uks-return-trickle-down-economy-suicide

11:50 TR Bot; Opinion | Britannia Unhinged: UK's Return to Trickle Down Economy is Suicide | Gwynne Dyer

11:52 TR News; "Having compressed air available in a workshop can be extremely useful." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/a-compressor-of-compressors-breaks-the-noise-barrier/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/a-compressor-of-compressors-breaks-the-noise-barrier/

11:52 TR Bot; Compressor Of Compressors Breaks The Noise Barrier | Hackaday

11:53 TR News; "Necessity is the mother of invention" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/hackaday-links-october-2-2022/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/hackaday-links-october-2-2022/

11:53 TR Bot; Links: October 2, 2022 | Hackaday

11:56 TR News; "A court in India has granted what appears to be the most aggressive site-blocking injunction in the history" https://torrentfreak.com/court-blocks-13445-pirate-sites-proactively-to-protect-one-movie-221003/ | Source: Torrent Freak

=> ↺ https://torrentfreak.com/court-blocks-13445-pirate-sites-proactively-to-protect-one-movie-221003/

11:56 TR Bot; Blocks 13,445 'Pirate' Sites Proactively to Protect One Movie * TorrentFreak

11:56 TR News; "The RIAA has booked a landmark victory against YouTube-ripper Yout.com." https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-thwarts-youts-attempt-to-declare-youtube-ripping-legal-221002/ | Source: Torrent Freak

=> ↺ https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-thwarts-youts-attempt-to-declare-youtube-ripping-legal-221002/

11:56 TR Bot; Thwarts Yout's Attempt to Declare YouTube-Ripping Legal * TorrentFreak

11:57 TR News; "election deniers" and "conspiracy theory" lending to the idea that proprietary, back-doored voting machines must never be questioned https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/03/debunking-the-latest-2020-conspiracy-theory-from-a-leading-trump-election-denier/ | Source: Counter Punch

=> ↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/03/debunking-the-latest-2020-conspiracy-theory-from-a-leading-trump-election-denier/

11:57 TR Bot; the Latest 2020 Conspiracy Theory from a Leading Trump Election Denier - CounterPunch.org

11:58 TR News; When Bush steals the election the media moans about rigged voting machines. But now we just have "nazis" and "conspiracy theorists" not trusting those same machines?

11:59 TR News; "You can achieve a lot with a Dremel." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/making-a-handheld-nes-by-turning-dip-chips-into-qfn/ | Source: Hackaday

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11:59 TR Bot; A Handheld NES By Turning DIP Chips IntoQFN? | Hackaday

11:59 TR News; 3D Scanning Is Over A Century Old https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/in-a-way-3d-scanning-is-over-a-century-old/ | Source: Hackaday

=> ↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/in-a-way-3d-scanning-is-over-a-century-old/

11:59 TR Bot; A Way, 3D Scanning Is Over A Century Old | Hackaday

noon, October 3

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12:04 psydruid; Intel can still reinvent itself by going back to its manufacturing roots, but I don't think there's any such option for AMD

12:04 psydruid; so they'll have milk it while it lasts

12:05 psydruid; and with fewer systems sold they'll be jacking up prices

12:08 highest_cubist_thrills; give me a button and ill nuke twitter off the planet right now

12:09 highest_cubist_thrills; boom

12:09 highest_cubist_thrills; its got to go

12:10 highest_cubist_thrills; its worse than the fucking scientologists

12:12 highest_cubist_thrills; twitter is the mafia in digital form

12:13 schestowitz[TR]; saudi-owned

12:13 schestowitz[TR]; ans weaponised by KSA too

12:13 schestowitz[TR]; against journalism and such

12:13 schestowitz[TR]; also has moles inside the company

12:13 highest_cubist_thrills; thats not really why its like that though

12:13 schestowitz[TR]; to rot out users

12:13 schestowitz[TR]; KSA 'dissidents'

12:13 schestowitz[TR]; like people who want voting rightde

12:13 schestowitz[TR]; *rights

12:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean im sure thats a facet of its existence

12:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but not the bulk of its reality

12:14 schestowitz[TR]; *rat out

12:14 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, twitter is collapsing

12:14 schestowitz[TR]; and its further acceleated now

12:14 highest_cubist_thrills; and as a facet thats bad enough

12:14 schestowitz[TR]; I covered this before

12:14 highest_cubist_thrills; anyway, twitter is collapsing <- and its further acceleated now <- youre so naive

12:14 schestowitz[TR]; Facebook is now "meta" and "metaverse

12:14 schestowitz[TR]; read: losing billions

12:14 highest_cubist_thrills; itll happen. you always exaggerate this.

12:14 schestowitz[TR]; selling hype to keep shareholders around

12:15 schestowitz[TR]; nol, I was right about twitter

12:15 schestowitz[TR]; and a whistleblower vindicated me

12:15 schestowitz[TR]; prior to it, the musk dispute did too

12:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean oliva is a whistleblower

12:15 schestowitz[TR]; but you want to assert I was wrong

12:15 schestowitz[TR]; without showing evidence for it

12:15 schestowitz[TR]; I didn't say "twitter will be bankrupt in 2022"

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; look at stadia

12:16 highest_cubist_thrills; well, heres what i ACTUALLY said

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; or "silverlight"

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; they never admitted it was dying

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; but I called them out on it early

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; anyway..

12:16 highest_cubist_thrills; i said youre naive. i said (yes) it will happen. and i said you always exaggerate this.

12:16 highest_cubist_thrills; thats what i said.

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; posting daily links n now

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; biab

12:17 highest_cubist_thrills; everything you dont like you say its dying.

12:17 highest_cubist_thrills; its wishful fantasy thinking.

12:17 schestowitz[TR]; and very often it DOES

12:17 highest_cubist_thrills; not that often.

12:17 TR News; Links 03/10/2022: GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/gnu-linux-libre-6-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/gnu-linux-libre-6-0/

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12:17 TR Bot; Links 03/10/2022: GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 | Techrights

12:17 schestowitz[TR]; what did I say would die but did not?

12:17 schestowitz[TR]; netflix was another good call btw

12:17 schestowitz[TR]; lots of correct calls

12:18 highest_cubist_thrills; netflix is dead?

12:18 schestowitz[TR]; ying, yes

12:18 schestowitz[TR]; many layoffs

12:18 schestowitz[TR]; profit issues

12:18 schestowitz[TR]; *dying

12:18 highest_cubist_thrills; what did I say would die but did not? <- what is actually dead that you said was dying?

12:18 highest_cubist_thrills; besides, youre missing the point. i said you exaggerate this

12:18 schestowitz[TR]; i did set a deadine for DEATH

12:18 schestowitz[TR]; I said dying

12:19 highest_cubist_thrills; and what was the deadline...

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; aa lot of what I said about rted hat was also very acurate

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; but it took time

12:19 highest_cubist_thrills; red hat is ibm now.

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; I heard from insiders ibm would squash them 18 months later

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; it did happen

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, back to links

12:19 MinceR; 03 045824 < DaemonFC> After ruining The Daily Show, Trevor Noah is leaving.

12:19 MinceR; i don't think he ruined The Daily Show

12:19 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/How_to_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_0_on_Ubuntu_22_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/How_to_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_0_on_Ubuntu_22_10.gmi

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12:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10

12:19 MinceR; i think Jon Stewart's departure is what ruined The Daily Show

12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; unfortunately the worst thing about red hat is still doing us in.

12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; gcc is being taken over.

12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm is still manipulating the public.

12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; and systemd has enjoyed 7 years of takeover.

12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; not to mentio the utter destruction of frankly, MOST gnu/linux distros

12:21 highest_cubist_thrills; oh except some which (frankly) dont matter.

12:21 highest_cubist_thrills; if youre going to talk about these things dying

12:21 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe talk about how people should protect themselves from their undead corpses.

12:22 highest_cubist_thrills; since i swear it comes down to chestbeating anyway

12:22 highest_cubist_thrills; and chestbeating seems a lot more appropriate in victory than defeat

12:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but i suppose you can make an argument for it in either situation. just look at russia.

12:22 schestowitz[TR]; centos de facto dead

12:22 schestowitz[TR]; fedora dying

12:22 schestowitz[TR]; no community

12:22 schestowitz[TR]; red hat lost popularity

12:23 highest_cubist_thrills; fedora dying <- disputed. but i suspect youre right

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; and its work is treated with suspicvion

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; MANy managers left

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; including 2 CEOs

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; many LAYOFFS

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; and exodus of engineers

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; along with managers

12:23 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi

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12:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

12:23 highest_cubist_thrills; red hat lost popularity <- theyre a business bueyed by a corporation so powerful, even the holocaust doesnt make customers mad.

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; that did harm IBM

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; both 21 years ago

12:24 highest_cubist_thrills; not enough.

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; (the book)

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; and to this date

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; they don't have a SEC section for "business lost due to PR issues"

12:24 highest_cubist_thrills; im not blaming edwin black. society is clearly insane.

12:25 highest_cubist_thrills; what it will and wont overlook

12:25 highest_cubist_thrills; toejam (hangnail) and autism: big news years later

12:25 highest_cubist_thrills; holocaust denial: huge!

12:25 highest_cubist_thrills; actually engineering and participuting directly in the holocaust itself:

12:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "well, the thinkpad is nice"

12:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean thats lenovo now, but red hat isnt.

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> toejam (hangnail) and autism: big news years later

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> holocaust denial: huge!

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; you could argue the two are connected

12:27 MinceR; the ThinkPad used to be nice

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; through antisemitism

12:28 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> you could argue the two are connected <- im actually arguing theres a disconnect

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile I see 0 articles about epstein and gates

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; or thighthigh ballmer

12:28 MinceR; then they fucked up the keyboard layout, then they replaced the keyboard with a chiclet keyboard, then they replaced the TrackPoint with a shitty knockoff, got shitty fans and shitty batteries and shitty battery latches

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; they work for the Establishment

12:28 MinceR; and i don't even think that the spring-loaded battery latches are cheaper

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; like the troll here

12:28 MinceR; oh yeah, they also removed the lid latch

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; also works for the Establishment

12:28 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah the establishment can do what it wants. its the revolutionaries that must pay dearly-- so say the ancoms.

12:29 MinceR; and they probably don't even have user-replaceable batteries anymore

12:29 schestowitz[TR]; they just use the brand

12:29 highest_cubist_thrills; hardware is generally lower quality than it was 5 or 10 years ago

12:29 highest_cubist_thrills; that 300 laptop i had was great as it happens

12:29 schestowitz[TR]; people want, cheap, fast

12:29 highest_cubist_thrills; but it felt like it was made of cardboard.

12:30 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Today_in_Techrights.gmi

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12:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights

12:30 highest_cubist_thrills; people want, cheap, fast <- and they pick two

12:30 highest_cubist_thrills; the other one is "good"

12:30 highest_cubist_thrills; but people are bound to pick cheap and fast when society is designed to leech all their time and money

12:31 highest_cubist_thrills; until cheap and fast is all most people can afford

12:31 TR News; GNU Linux-libre 6.0-gnu (-ETOOSIXY) https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2022-10/msg00000.html

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12:31 TR Bot; GNU Linux-libre 6.0-gnu (-ETOOSIXY)

12:32 highest_cubist_thrills; and they probably don't even have user-replaceable batteries anymore <- what, you mean the clock battery?

12:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i doubt thinkpad went sealed capsule like apple

12:33 highest_cubist_thrills; then again its times like that i remember "im still not as cynical as mincer"

12:33 TR News; Most Dreaded Question of the Day gemini://eggler.smol.pub/most-dreaded-question-of-the-day

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12:33 MinceR; the firmware is probably fucked up in all uefi laptops

12:34 MinceR; as it all descends from tianocore

12:34 highest_cubist_thrills; the firmware is probably fucked up in all uefi laptops <- redundant imo

12:34 MinceR; i mean, even for a uefi implementation

12:34 TR News; "The fewer materials I posses the more cognizant I become of their hollow nature." gemini://dk.smol.pub/1664753729

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12:34 MinceR; i doubt the spec says "you must crash before letting the user enter setup if you see an efivar you don't like"

12:34 psydruid; the destruction of most gnu/linux distributions was the goal

12:35 TR News; "Last year I decided to read Doom's source code to learn how to organize big C projects. Even though my exploration of doom's source code was short I learned a lot from that experience and also made me realize some things that I never thought about Video Game preservation." gemini://djpro.smol.pub/03102022-preserva

=> ↺ gemini://djpro.smol.pub/03102022-preserva

12:35 MinceR; "how to organize big C projects" -> write them in C++

12:35 highest_cubist_thrills; unquestionably extremely fucked insecure

12:35 highest_cubist_thrills; uefi

12:35 MinceR; :>

12:36 highest_cubist_thrills; the destruction of most gnu/linux distributions was the goal <- of course

12:36 highest_cubist_thrills; but "gnu/linux" is dying when when actually is?

12:36 highest_cubist_thrills; no

12:36 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm is dying when theyre going through the millionth iteration of a familiar cycle? yes!

12:37 highest_cubist_thrills; the sun dies tonight!

12:37 highest_cubist_thrills; and then in the morning, it is born!

12:37 MinceR; sun died when it was bought by oracle

12:37 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm is like tinkerbell. if you stop believing, its little light starts to fade and flicker

12:37 highest_cubist_thrills; at least until they throw some more corpses on the fire, then its bright and shiny again

12:38 psydruid; it's like the renaissance, but it happens every day

12:38 psydruid; exciting times are ahead of us

12:39 highest_cubist_thrills; sun died when it was bought by oracle <- and my point is, the worst thing about sun is still with us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)

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12:39 TR Bot; Java (programming language) - Wikipedia

12:39 MinceR; also CDDL

12:39 highest_cubist_thrills; which is why roys little funeral for all his enemies is so masturbatory and pointless.

12:39 MinceR; also known as "here we declare in writing that slowlaris can't compete with Linux"

12:39 highest_cubist_thrills; it accomplishes nothing

12:39 MinceR; also, java will still be with us if oracle dies as long as MICROS~1 survives

12:40 MinceR; since MICROS~1 Visual Java also exists

12:40 highest_cubist_thrills; exciting times are ahead of us <- for now, we live in interesting ones

12:40 MinceR; (they call it "C#")

12:40 highest_cubist_thrills; MICROS~1 Visual Java <- i just threw up in my mouth a little

12:41 MinceR; :>

12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; the worst thing about red hat is still with us

12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; the worst thing about microsoft

12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; is now github

12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; and when that goes

12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; it will be even worse

12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but it has to-- the longer it stays, the worse it will be when it goes

12:45 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hemingway

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12:45 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Hemingway

12:45 psydruid; the worst thing about red hat is that it still exists

12:45 highest_cubist_thrills; muriel?

12:45 MinceR; o mennen mylar muriel

12:50 highest_cubist_thrills; The initial review in the Sunday Telegraph described it as "among the greatest works of imaginative fiction of the twentieth century"

12:51 highest_cubist_thrills; that was in the 50s, and hemingway died at 61 in 1961 (born 1899)

12:51 highest_cubist_thrills; my guess is he knows what a hobbit is, or at least the authors name.

12:51 MinceR; :)

12:51 highest_cubist_thrills; its still funny though

12:52 highest_cubist_thrills; only took 50 years for jk rowling to rip it off too

12:52 highest_cubist_thrills; nice

12:52 highest_cubist_thrills; (i enjoyed her version a lot more. except for the scenes with ian mckellan, which were never part of the books for obvious reasons)

12:54 highest_cubist_thrills; still it was nice of tolkien to lay so much of the groundwork for her

12:54 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad he couldnt also explain what a basilisk was

12:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i guess he wanted to give her a chance to learn from her own mistakes

12:58 TR News; (NEW): 5 Great GUI Apps for Visual Disk Usage in Linux, Ubuntu [With Bonus] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/5_Great_GUI_Apps_for_Visual_Disk_Usage_in_Linux_Ubuntu_With_Bon.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/5_Great_GUI_Apps_for_Visual_Disk_Usage_in_Linux_Ubuntu_With_Bon.gmi

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12:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines 5 Great GUI Apps for Visual Disk Usage in Linux, Ubuntu [With Bonus]

12:58 highest_cubist_thrills; Trashing is a particularly vicious form of character assassination which amounts to psychological rape. It is manipulative, dishonest, and excessive.

12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; character assassination

12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; psychological rape

12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; manipulative

12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; excessive

12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 71.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.68

12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; better than therapy, mjg: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm

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12:59 TR Bot; Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood

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12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; years of analysis and treatment in one easy to swallow pill.

1 PM, October 3

13:00 highest_cubist_thrills; courtesy of one of the worlds most beautiful trans women

13:00 highest_cubist_thrills; (and smartest)

13:01 highest_cubist_thrills; oh look, its NOT 2022 and you CAN use rape as a metaphor for other kinds of abuse

13:01 highest_cubist_thrills; how. about. that.

13:02 highest_cubist_thrills; granted jo freeman was probably drawn and quartered by woke twitter shitlords years ago

13:02 highest_cubist_thrills; shes probably a terf too, and im not generally sympathetic to them

13:12 highest_cubist_thrills; " I have been watching for years with increasing dismay as the Movement consciously destroys anyone within it who stands out in any way. "

13:12 highest_cubist_thrills; thought policing, for any good cause, leads to people stepping on each other to be uniform.

13:13 highest_cubist_thrills; you better get that cookie cutter just right, because youre going to be stuck with a fuckload of it for years to come

13:13 highest_cubist_thrills; if its impotent and self-destructive

13:13 highest_cubist_thrills; youll have mandatory impotence and mandatory self-destruction

13:13 highest_cubist_thrills; so get that template right before you all beat it into each other.

13:15 highest_cubist_thrills; [trashing] "is not disagreement; it is not conflict; it is not opposition. These are perfectly ordinary phenomena which, when engaged in mutually, honestly, and not excessively, are necessary to keep an organism or organization healthy and active."

13:16 highest_cubist_thrills; http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/different-circumstances/

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13:16 TR Bot; I Would Have Supported the Coup (Under Very Different Circumstances) | Techrights

13:16 highest_cubist_thrills; i would have supported the coup if it wasnt just about trashing the founder.

13:16 highest_cubist_thrills; if it was honest, reasonable, and about the good of the movement. it was none of those things.

13:16 highest_cubist_thrills; it was about trashing stallman.

13:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and everyone who supported him.

13:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and everyone who supported the ideas.

13:17 highest_cubist_thrills; basically it was about destroying free software.

13:17 highest_cubist_thrills; whats left is open source-- the fake corporate version of free software that hates your freedom.

13:18 highest_cubist_thrills; thats what trashing stallman got us.

13:18 highest_cubist_thrills; funny, because when eich was trashed, the same thing happened to mozilla.

13:18 highest_cubist_thrills; when torvalds was trashed, the same thing happened to linux.

13:18 highest_cubist_thrills; its almost like this is a predictable pattern of destruction that reasonable people can learn from.

13:19 highest_cubist_thrills; but unreasonable people... well, how are you supposed to appeal to them.

13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

13:21 TR News; [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/

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13:21 TR Bot; [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights

13:22 highest_cubist_thrills; roy says mozilla is dying, same thing happened to it and the fsf

13:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know his position on either linux or the fsf at this point

13:23 techuser; highest_cubist_thrills: and then you hate me for hating the evil FSF

13:23 highest_cubist_thrills; my guess its its being revised (which is fine, it probably needs to be)

13:23 highest_cubist_thrills; but hes definitely closer to the fence than ever

13:24 techuser; dual opinions like me on some things?

13:24 highest_cubist_thrills; pretty soon the fence will have its own fence dividing one side of the fence (itself) from the other

13:24 highest_cubist_thrills; this is your half the fence, and this is my half of the fence

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13:25 TR News; (NEW): String Processing in LibreOffice Calc Macro with Examples [Programming] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/String_Processing_in_LibreOffice_Calc_Macro_with_Examples_Progr.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/String_Processing_in_LibreOffice_Calc_Macro_with_Examples_Progr.gmi

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13:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines String Processing in LibreOffice Calc Macro with Examples [Programming]

13:28 highest_cubist_thrills; "its true that im more powerful than any of them individually, but as a collective they have a terrifying power that they dont seem to be aware of"

13:29 MinceR; hating the evil FSF and attempting to cancel RMS for things he did not say are two different things

13:29 highest_cubist_thrills; hating the evil FSF and attempting to cancel RMS for things he did not say are two different things <- the fsf and the fsf are two different things

13:29 techuser; the letter was about cancelling the rest of the staff too, iirc

13:29 MinceR; also, if you hate the FSF, why do you care who leads it?

13:29 techuser; remove the people, maybe something changes. Or it just disappears.

13:30 MinceR; oh yes

13:30 MinceR; remove the people who occasionally still supported free software, install SJW corporate drones in their places

13:30 MinceR; something will definitely change

13:30 highest_cubist_thrills; if you hate the FSF, why do you care who leads it? <- if this is about dr sixels views

13:30 MinceR; it won't be good for free software, but it will change

13:30 highest_cubist_thrills; he probably hated the fsf that was led by a jew

13:30 highest_cubist_thrills; now he hates the fsf that is led by trans

13:31 highest_cubist_thrills; he wants the fsf that is run by cis white germans. they have that though. its called fsfe and its in berlin ffs

13:31 MinceR; lol

13:31 highest_cubist_thrills; you can never please a nazi that feels down on his luck

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13:32 MinceR; why would a nazi feel down on his luck in 2022 though?

13:32 highest_cubist_thrills; he will always find something to be sad about and he will always blame the fact that completely irrelevant shit is happening that his logic conflates with his situation

13:32 MinceR; nazism is "hip" and "cool" again

13:32 MinceR; though they don't dare call themselves nazis yet

13:33 MinceR; they call themselves "conservatives" for now

13:33 highest_cubist_thrills; in reality, no chapter of the history of the fsf is related to dr sixel making tea with 1 ppm of tea and 999,999 ppm of water

13:33 TR News; European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/

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13:33 TR Bot; European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights

13:33 highest_cubist_thrills; but he swears he knows the connection and hes going to bitch until its resolved

13:33 MinceR; is he also into homeopathy?

13:33 highest_cubist_thrills; no because its unnatural

13:34 MinceR; lol

13:34 highest_cubist_thrills; he believes in water and tea, not water and lgb-tea

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13:34 highest_cubist_thrills; he prefers heteropathy

13:34 MinceR; lol

13:35 highest_cubist_thrills; they don't dare call themselves nazis yet <- he really is kenneth mars in the producers

13:35 highest_cubist_thrills; im a nice person! we arent nazis! heil hitler! please dont tell anyone.

13:37 highest_cubist_thrills; hes really like the daleks-- he wants pure history while pretending the events that created it didnt exist

13:37 highest_cubist_thrills; he wants pure german computing

13:37 highest_cubist_thrills; courtesy of the american census bureau.

13:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i know about zuse of course

13:38 highest_cubist_thrills; zuse didnt have a fucking z80 chip

13:38 highest_cubist_thrills; the longer he talks the clearer it is that he wants purity, rather than sanity

13:38 highest_cubist_thrills; but the purity he wants is arbitrary and delusional

13:39 highest_cubist_thrills; and sanity only overlaps with his plans for a brief fling before they go their separate ways

13:39 highest_cubist_thrills; he gets as far as "things are crazy" and steps 1 and 2

13:39 highest_cubist_thrills; it all goes to hell from there

13:40 highest_cubist_thrills; most politics are like that. youre going to get fucked, but if youre lucky you get dinner and a movie first

13:40 TR News; Language supporting gender diversity gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-10-03.gmi fine with me, as long as you don't use plurals for a single person

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13:41 TR News; AWK the ultimate swiss army knife for data gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/10-03-awk-the-ultimate-swiss-army-knife-for-data.gmi

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13:41 TR News; The Ever Present Rumble gemini://thurk.org/blog/575.gmi

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13:42 highest_cubist_thrills; "i suppose that when shamings are delivered like remotely administered drone strikes nobody needs to think about how ferocious our collective power might be. the snowflake never needs to feel responsible for the avalanche." joe ronson

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13:43 highest_cubist_thrills; this is why i like the marxists

13:43 highest_cubist_thrills; ancoms read history, then cancel the authors and do whatever

13:43 highest_cubist_thrills; marxists at least try to fit history into a narrative

13:43 highest_cubist_thrills; they incorporate history

13:44 highest_cubist_thrills; history knows that revolutions actually result in destruction and death

13:44 highest_cubist_thrills; ancoms have their little reigns of terror

13:44 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights

13:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but then after the blood has spilled everywhere theyre like

13:44 highest_cubist_thrills; "what?"

13:45 highest_cubist_thrills; "dont look at us, we just made this place a lot nicer"

13:46 highest_cubist_thrills; if you havent reframed history 6 different ways before breakfast, youre hardly an ancom.

13:46 highest_cubist_thrills; relevant: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm

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13:46 TR Bot; The Tyranny of Stuctureless

13:47 highest_cubist_thrills; i hope she doesnt turn out to be a terf. she probably isnt, but you get used to "we cant have nice things"

13:47 highest_cubist_thrills; and by nice things i mean we cant have people that understand anything we say

13:48 highest_cubist_thrills; because theyve all been beaten into submission by their own closest allies

13:48 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wFBHBSPvZbw

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13:48 TR Bot; All She Wants To Do Is Dance - Invidious

13:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i cant stand don henley btw

13:49 highest_cubist_thrills; worse than bono. i like a few eagles songs, i mostly cant stand them either.

13:52 highest_cubist_thrills; "hundreds of people endlessly bashing someone whos already been knocked to the ground, and feeling all the while like theyre 'punching up'"-- natalie wynn

13:55 highest_cubist_thrills; shes been going on for 80 minutes now, and the last 20 minutes is just as good as the rest of it

13:56 TR News; (NEW): Get Ready for Ubuntu MATE Experience on Debian Linux! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Get_Ready_for_Ubuntu_MATE_Experience_on_Debian_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Get_Ready_for_Ubuntu_MATE_Experience_on_Debian_Linux.gmi

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13:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Get Ready for Ubuntu MATE Experience on Debian Linux!

13:56 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Android_Leftovers.gmi

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13:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers

13:57 highest_cubist_thrills; "the demand for an apology itself is often insincere"

13:58 highest_cubist_thrills; of course it is. its just narcissistic abuse.

13:58 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont want an apology, they want you to carry your own cross to the crucifixion.

2 PM, October 3

14:03 highest_cubist_thrills; "in a way, leftist twitter finally accomplished what 4chan, nazis, stalkers and terfs, have been trying and failing to do to me for years"

14:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i was worried that stallman was going to kill himself in 2019

14:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i didnt think it was a sure thing, but it was a real concern

14:05 highest_cubist_thrills; he didnt

14:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i think a part of him has absolutely died

14:06 highest_cubist_thrills; and i dont know if he will ever get that back

14:06 highest_cubist_thrills; probably not in any way we will be able to discern. we can at least hope he feels differently

14:07 highest_cubist_thrills; when youre beaten, attacked, lied to, manipulated, by countless people for long stretches of time, like years

14:07 highest_cubist_thrills; it warps. it creates trauma. it affects. permanently.

14:07 highest_cubist_thrills; there are ways hes been torn apart hes probably still numb to.

14:07 highest_cubist_thrills; he probably cant even tell you exactly how he feels about it.

14:08 highest_cubist_thrills; a lot of people can talk about this based on first-hand experience

14:08 highest_cubist_thrills; funnily enough, they cant tell you how (if at all) it affects stallman

14:08 highest_cubist_thrills; because they dont care.

14:09 schestowitz[TR]; see gnu linux-libre announcemenmt

14:09 schestowitz[TR]; from hours ago

14:10 schestowitz[TR]; suppoerstallman at the bottom

14:10 schestowitz[TR]; lxo gets abused for puting the links there

14:10 schestowitz[TR]; facts are abuse, you see...

14:10 highest_cubist_thrills; These feelings are reinforced when you are isolated from your friends as they become convinced that their association with-you is similarly inimical to the Movement and to themselves. Any support of you will taint them.

14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; Eventually all your colleagues join in a chorus of condemnation which cannot be silenced, and you are reduced to a mere parody of your previous self.

14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; this was written in 1976.

14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; note the next line of text:

14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; It took three trashings to convince me to drop out. Finally, at the end of 1969, I felt psychologically mangled to the point where I knew I couldn't go on. Until then I interpreted my experiences as due to personality conflicts or political disagreements

14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman survived previous trashings

14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; " I felt psychologically mangled to the point where I knew I couldn't go on."

14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; "Until then I interpreted my experiences as due to personality conflicts or political disagreements"

14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; sounds familiar

14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; these arent really new things

14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; the web and social media make them seem like new things

14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; this is the dark side of leftism.

14:13 highest_cubist_thrills; and the alt-right knows that, but so does the radical left.

14:13 highest_cubist_thrills; the alt-right points it out because it makes the left look incompetent.

14:13 highest_cubist_thrills; the left points it out because without addressing this, the left will always be a bigger enemy to itself than its worst enemies.

14:14 highest_cubist_thrills; or close enough.

14:15 TR News; Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/

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14:15 TR Bot; Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights

14:16 highest_cubist_thrills; "This was communicated so subtly that I never could get anyone to talk about it. There were no big confrontations, just many little slights. Each by itself was insignificant; but added one to another they were like a thousand cuts with a whip." <- 1976

14:17 TR News; epo.org is a load of lies. Horrible.

14:19 MinceR; 03 143814 < highest_cubist_thrills> zuse didnt have a fucking z80 chip

14:19 MinceR; ah, that famous german company known as Zilog.

14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

14:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "you were being very politely shunned and excluded everywhere you went, and nobody had to put a mark on you (or put your name on a list) because everybody was mirroring the behaviour of everyone else--

14:21 highest_cubist_thrills; if anybody important shunned you then everybody else would do the same. you didnt fit, you would never be part of the community, but to your face they would pretend you were welcome-- or that all you had to do was follow the rules, which wasnt ever exactly true either." <- 2021

14:21 highest_cubist_thrills; the unwritten rule was control and obedience, and mirroring those in control. the written rules were only a cover (an excuse) for the unwritten rule.

14:23 highest_cubist_thrills; theres no such thing as a safe space either

14:23 highest_cubist_thrills; you can get kicked out of the same safe space you rely on to survive

14:24 highest_cubist_thrills; its just one more thing they can take away from you to try to kill you if you offend the gods

14:24 highest_cubist_thrills; https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/

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14:24 TR Bot; Is LibrePlanet Safe?

14:24 highest_cubist_thrills; and the gods are petty

14:25 MinceR; it's safe for the corporations

14:25 MinceR; not for you

14:25 highest_cubist_thrills; what a "safe space" really is, is a love-bombing campaign transformed from a toxic relationship phase to a local and ongoing event.

14:25 MinceR; only corporations matter

14:25 MinceR; that's why the "Linux Foundation" kicked out all non-corporate members

14:26 highest_cubist_thrills; it's safe for the corporations <- theyre the only ones who have enough resources to shheild themselves

14:26 highest_cubist_thrills; for everyone else its like being inside the reactor with a flimsy suit made of tinfoil

14:26 highest_cubist_thrills; that's why the "Linux Foundation" <- the linux fraud, you mean

14:26 highest_cubist_thrills; you did use quotes ofc

14:27 TR News; Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teens Suicide https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/

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14:27 TR Bot; Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teen's Suicide - Make Tech Easier

14:27 highest_cubist_thrills; only corporations matter <- corporate lives matter

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14:27 MinceR; +

14:28 schestowitz[TR]; "job creationism"

14:28 schestowitz[TR]; it's the new religion

14:28 techuser; hi

14:28 schestowitz[TR]; hi mate

14:28 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/

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14:28 schestowitz[TR]; avoid scoial control media

14:28 schestowitz[TR]; it's all shit, all of it

14:29 schestowitz[TR]; irc is better

14:29 techuser; IRC is social too

14:29 techuser; it will be ruined via IRCv3

14:29 matteobin; IRC is great!

14:29 TR News; Rahul of tecadmin has posted LOADS of junk like this lately https://tecadmin.net/how-to-install-net-core-on-macos/

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14:29 highest_cubist_thrills; I had survived my youth because I had never given anyone or any group the right to judge me. That right I had reserved to myself. But the Movement seduced me by its sweet promise of sisterhood.

14:29 TR Bot; How to Install .NET Core on macOS TecAdmin

14:29 highest_cubist_thrills; <highest_cubist_thrills> you can get kicked out of the same safe space you rely on to survive

14:29 MinceR; will IRCv3 be incompatible with older clients?

14:29 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: I am trying to understand how ircv3 can ruin it for you

14:30 schestowitz[TR]; it most added non-mandatory features

14:30 highest_cubist_thrills; <highest_cubist_thrills> its just one more thing they can take away from you to try to kill you if you offend the gods

14:30 schestowitz[TR]; so if you lose the connection you can scroll up more

14:30 techuser; bloat IRC

14:30 schestowitz[TR]; /history command

14:30 schestowitz[TR]; blost where

14:30 highest_cubist_thrills; It claimed to provide a haven from the ravages of a sexist society; a place where one would be understood. https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm

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14:30 TR Bot; Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood

14:30 schestowitz[TR]; the server?

14:30 techuser; maybe they bring some SJW shit then

14:30 schestowitz[TR]; the client side is the same

14:30 highest_cubist_thrills; " a haven"

14:30 schestowitz[TR]; the server side is still light

14:30 highest_cubist_thrills; s safe space.

14:30 MinceR; afaik storing history on the ircd side is also optional

14:30 schestowitz[TR]; it runs as an OS with about 10 processes in total

14:31 techuser; my IRC friend says in Minecraft they added client-side server banning

14:31 MinceR; and the client side is backwards compatible

14:31 techuser; they can add this shit into IRC as well

14:31 MinceR; what is "client-side server banning"?

14:31 schestowitz[TR]; that's not irc(v3)

14:31 schestowitz[TR]; that's a bor running in irc

14:31 MinceR; minecraft is nonfree

14:31 schestowitz[TR]; TechrightsBot-tr has this functionality too

14:31 MinceR; free irc clients exist, i'm using one right now

14:31 techuser; seems it fetches banned server list from Microsoft server and doesn't let players connect to the listed servers

14:31 schestowitz[TR]; but we've not used it in over a decaded, just experimentally

14:31 MinceR; if they were to add something i disapprove into it, i can fork it

14:31 schestowitz[TR]; banning people who use vulgar words

14:32 techuser; shit code can exist in free software too

14:32 MinceR; techuser: with a free client, such things are avoidable

14:32 highest_cubist_thrills; what is "client-side server banning"? <- client side server banning lets you skip servers that lack features (so im told)

14:32 schestowitz[TR]; any code can exist in it, but you can remove it

14:32 schestowitz[TR]; even linux is getting a deblobified version

14:32 highest_cubist_thrills; large networks that dont consist of a single server may vary in available features

14:32 schestowitz[TR]; one was rleased hours ago

14:32 schestowitz[TR]; gnu linux-libre 6.0

14:32 techuser; when they enforce things like SASL, choices get reduced

14:33 MinceR; we don't enforce SASL

14:33 MinceR; most networks don't enforce SASL

14:33 MinceR; i think even freenode stopped enforcing SASL

14:33 schestowitz[TR]; afaik, SASL can also be enforced with IRCv'1'

14:33 techuser; SASL is a part of IRCv3

14:33 schestowitz[TR]; we never used it

14:33 techuser; but PASS exists in original IRC

14:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's not relevant to us

14:33 techuser; why do you use ergo ircd

14:33 MinceR; PASS has a different purpose

14:33 MinceR; _()_/

14:34 techuser; the shittiest IRCd around

14:34 highest_cubist_thrills; linux-libre 6.0 <- they should make a gnu libre that has the ibm crap taken out

14:34 MinceR; it's not IRCX

14:34 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad that includes gcc.

14:34 techuser; moving IRC into embrace, extend and extinguish

14:34 MinceR; it's not even the ircnet ircd

14:34 MinceR; so it's definitely not the shittiest ircd around

14:34 schestowitz[TR]; yesterday I checked pissnet

14:34 techuser; they focus on IRCv3 and don't implement necessary stuff like server linking for years

14:34 techuser; because some stupid excuses

14:34 techuser; or they are evil and not stupid

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14:35 MinceR; if you want server linking, use unrealircd

14:35 techuser; I voted for ngIRCd for a network that I administrate, but it seems it isn't updated anymore

14:35 highest_cubist_thrills; "I gave the movement the right to judge me because I trusted it. And when it judged me worthless, I accepted that judgment."

14:36 highest_cubist_thrills; "For at least six months I lived in a kind of numb despair, completely internalizing my failure as a personal one."

14:36 techuser; I think UnrealIRCd will do evil eventually

14:36 techuser; as it is the most used IRCd

14:36 MinceR; then that will be the time to fork it

14:36 MinceR; and there are many others

14:36 highest_cubist_thrills; /me doesnt see a crisis for irc

14:37 techuser; unless it is a SJW attack, most people won't care about forking

14:37 highest_cubist_thrills; concerns about bloat are fair enough

14:37 techuser; SJWs know well how to cancel

14:37 highest_cubist_thrills; bloat kills freedom

14:38 highest_cubist_thrills; irc isnt in the systemd phase where shit stops being optional

14:38 highest_cubist_thrills; and no one gives a shit

14:38 MinceR; MICROS~1 tried to take over IRC, that's why IRCX exists

14:38 MinceR; they didn't get far

14:38 highest_cubist_thrills; the first counterrevolution is often just a practice run

14:38 highest_cubist_thrills; whats the thing microsoft had before github roy mentions all the time?

14:39 MinceR; codeplex

14:39 highest_cubist_thrills; right

14:39 TR News; ADILNUV Wordo: TOUGH gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-03.gmi

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14:39 highest_cubist_thrills; took them at least one more try to take over all the repos

14:39 MinceR; afaik that was their own thing, not a takeover

14:39 MinceR; then they switched to buying corporations to acquire users

14:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i think the pattern of "use our thing-- fine then we will just buy your thing" is probably established

14:40 MinceR; now it certainly is

14:40 TR News; "In the fortieth episode of the WordPress Briefing, Josepha Haden Chomphosy sits down with special guests Anne McCarthy and Brian Alexander to discuss the Testing Team and how to get started with testing in the WordPress project." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/10/episode-40-all-things-testing-with-special-guests-anne-mccarthy-and-brian-alexander/

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14:40 TR Bot; Episode 40: All Things Testing with Special Guests Anne McCarthy and Brian Alexander WordPress News

14:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean github is the ultimate example

14:41 highest_cubist_thrills; how about sysinternals

14:41 highest_cubist_thrills; much smaller example

14:41 MinceR; dunno, i stopped focusing on Backdoors sometime around 2000

14:41 highest_cubist_thrills; lucky, it took me from 2004 to 2007 at least

14:42 highest_cubist_thrills; and i was trying in 2001

14:42 highest_cubist_thrills; being a dos fan i started with tomsrtbt :)

14:42 highest_cubist_thrills; but with dos i could diskcopy a: b:

14:43 highest_cubist_thrills; with tomsrtbt i had no idea how to even copy that non-standard size floppy

14:43 MinceR; i started with red hat linux 7

14:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i still dont know how :)

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14:43 MinceR; i asked for debian install CDs, i got rh install CDs

14:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i bought red hat 6.0 but couldnt install it on my hardware

14:44 highest_cubist_thrills; i asked for debian install CDs, i got rh install CDs <- you were obviously on the naughty list that year

14:44 TR News; "Her familys attorneys have said that in the six months before she died, the 14-year-old showed an interest in 16,300 posts on Instagram by liking, sharing, or saving, with 2,100 of the posts self-harm related" https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/

=> ↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/

14:44 TR Bot; Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teen's Suicide - Make Tech Easier

14:44 TR News; "There has been widespread news coverage of the death of Molly Russell, a 14 year old British schoolgirl." https://danielpocock.com/molly-russell-suicide-debian-frans-pop-lucy-wayland-deaths-social-media/

=> ↺ https://danielpocock.com/molly-russell-suicide-debian-frans-pop-lucy-wayland-deaths-social-media/

14:44 MinceR; :>

14:44 TR Bot; Molly Russell suicide & Debian Frans Pop, Lucy Wayland, social media deaths

14:45 TR News; Addiction: "She had 5,793 impressions and 2,692 close-ups on Pinterest in that same time frame." https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/

=> ↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/

14:45 TR News; "But was her excessive use of social media the fault of the algorithms? Did it lure her into that behavior? Its a hard call." https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/

=> ↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/

14:46 TR News; How to make your distro less stable because you lack patience https://9to5linux.com/how-to-install-linux-kernel-6-0-on-ubuntu-22-10

=> ↺ https://9to5linux.com/how-to-install-linux-kernel-6-0-on-ubuntu-22-10

14:46 highest_cubist_thrills; We gathered one night for a general discussion on the state of the Movement, and instead found ourselves discussing what had happened to us.

14:46 TR Bot; to Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10 - 9to5Linux

14:46 highest_cubist_thrills; I learned ... years ago that women had always been divided against one another, self-destructive and filled with impotent rage. I thought the Movement would change all that.

14:46 TR News; (NEW): Podman vs Docker: What's the Difference? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Podman_vs_Docker_What_s_the_Difference.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Podman_vs_Docker_What_s_the_Difference.gmi

=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Podman_vs_Docker_What_s_the_Difference.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Podman_vs_Docker_What_s_the_Difference.gmi

14:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Podman vs Docker: What's the Difference?

14:47 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder if mjg will ever read this

14:47 highest_cubist_thrills; I never dreamed that I would see the day when this rage, masquerading as a pseudo-egalitarian radicalism [would be used within the Movement to strike down sisters singled out

14:47 TR News; Lyra V2 open-source audio codec gets faster, higher quality and compatible with more platforms https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/03/lyra-v2-open-source-audio-codec-gets-faster-higher-quality-and-compatible-with-more-platforms/

=> ↺ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/03/lyra-v2-open-source-audio-codec-gets-faster-higher-quality-and-compatible-with-more-platforms/

14:47 TR Bot; Lyra V2 open-source audio codec gets faster, higher quality and compatible with more platforms - CNX Software

14:47 MinceR; if MICROS~1 pays him to, sure

14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; roy could be right, but i think he misses the psychological side of this mostly

14:48 TR News; The EPO has totally lost the plot; it completely neglected its mission in pursuit of money and optics http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/

14:48 TR Bot; [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights

14:48 TR News; The European School The Hague (ESH) is not functioning like its supposed to; people who migrated (seeking a job) along with family members for an EPO position arent pleased (to say the least) and they request if not demand to speak with EPO management http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/

14:48 TR Bot; European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights

14:48 MinceR; > rage, masquerading as a pseudo-egalitarian radicalism

14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe mjg only cares about money, but i think he would be driven to do the same for free

14:48 MinceR; it's the angle MICROS~1 found

14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; yes

14:48 MinceR; so it's the angle MICROS~1 uses

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14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; of course

14:48 MinceR; it doesn't matter to them what the excuse is

14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; by any means necessary

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14:48 MinceR; the only thing that matters is leverage

14:49 schestowitz[TR]; aye

14:49 TR News; The EPO has turned into a farcical operation that laughs at the law, abuses its own staff, and lies to both staff and customers in the official Web site http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/

14:49 TR Bot; Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights

14:49 highest_cubist_thrills; These attacks take different forms. The most common and pervasive is character assassination: the attempt to undermine and destroy belief in the integrity of the individual under attack. Another form is the 'purge.' The ultimate tactic is to isolate her.

14:49 highest_cubist_thrills; exiled in place.

14:49 schestowitz[TR]; there are PR firms that do this

14:49 highest_cubist_thrills; whats amazing about this essay (from 1976)

14:49 schestowitz[TR]; we have a whistleblower who saw it from the inside

14:49 schestowitz[TR]; she said,

14:50 highest_cubist_thrills; is that it got in a time machine in 2015

14:50 schestowitz[TR]; they use "minorities"

14:50 schestowitz[TR]; to protect corporations

14:50 highest_cubist_thrills; took all the ideas from the alt-right

14:50 highest_cubist_thrills; and carried them back in time to the 1970s where they could infect the leftist movements.

14:50 schestowitz[TR]; they sell censorship online... they report journalists for hurting women or minorities... to gag their criticism of corporate abuse

14:50 schestowitz[TR]; that's like a CoC being weaponised or ToS

14:50 highest_cubist_thrills; or of course this has nothing to do with the alt-right. but thats a crazy theory compared to the one with a time machine in it.

14:51 highest_cubist_thrills; "And who do they attack? Generally two categories. . . Achievement or accomplishment of any kind would seem to be the worst crime:

14:51 MinceR; did CoC-s even exist before they were already weaponized?

14:51 schestowitz[TR]; as an aside, the corporate media is controlled by oligarcfhy already...consolidation

14:51 highest_cubist_thrills; when cocs were unwritten rules, were they really cocs?

14:51 schestowitz[TR]; so they get to choose which leas matter

14:51 MinceR; no

14:51 schestowitz[TR]; and which whisteblowers to report for

14:52 schestowitz[TR]; or to burn

14:52 MinceR; you can't point to a document as an excuse if the document doesn't exist

14:52 schestowitz[TR]; report to the source

14:52 schestowitz[TR]; duckduckgo and startpage were never properly exposed as spying operaitons

14:52 schestowitz[TR]; by the "maintream" media

14:52 schestowitz[TR]; they bribe many orgs to help them pretend

14:52 MinceR; you can't have bureaucrats in the role of deciding who gets booted from the project if those roles aren't formally declared

14:52 highest_cubist_thrills; Productivity seems to be the major crime -- but if you have the misfortune of being outspoken and articulate, you are also accused of being power-mad, elitist, fascist, and finally the worst epithet of all: a male-identifier.

14:52 highest_cubist_thrills; not a GENDER TRAITOR!

14:52 MinceR; lol

14:53 highest_cubist_thrills; (race traitor is an actual nazi/white supremacist thing)

14:53 schestowitz[TR]; corporations are people

14:53 MinceR; my friend

14:53 schestowitz[TR]; what genders are corprations?

14:53 schestowitz[TR]; also, what is their life expenctancy?

14:53 highest_cubist_thrills; As I listened to her, a great feeling of relief washed over me. It was my experience she was describing. If I was crazy, I wasn't the only one.

14:53 MinceR; different gender for each corporation for maximum fake diversity

14:53 schestowitz[TR]; criticisng OSI is homophobic

14:53 schestowitz[TR]; OSI is gay

14:53 schestowitz[TR]; I think

14:54 schestowitz[TR]; that's what the president of OSI wanted us to think

14:54 MinceR; "we all think the same, we all believe in the same things, but we are differently colored and that's all that matters"

14:54 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they should register OSI as religion

14:54 highest_cubist_thrills; The result was that most of the women at that meeting dropped out as I had done. Two ended up in the hospital with nervous breakdowns.

14:54 MinceR; "i can't code but i have blue hair"

14:54 schestowitz[TR]; then it's blasphemous to chastise its members

14:54 schestowitz[TR]; an act of intolerance

14:54 highest_cubist_thrills; Although all remained dedicated feminists, none have really contributed their talents to the Movement as they might have.

14:54 highest_cubist_thrills; the real jo freeman is not coming back

14:55 highest_cubist_thrills; With each new story, my conviction grew that trashing was not an individual problem brought on by individual actions; nor was it a result of political conflicts between those of differing ideas, It was a social disease.

14:55 schestowitz[TR]; well, MinceR and I.. and many others are still here

14:55 highest_cubist_thrills; today the disease is known as social media

14:55 schestowitz[TR]; it's not "crazy" to say there were attempted to cancel us. still ongoing

14:55 schestowitz[TR]; by crazed and resourceful stalkers.

14:55 highest_cubist_thrills; but in 1976, it was known as twitter

14:55 schestowitz[TR]; who defame

14:55 schestowitz[TR]; social control media is about control

14:55 schestowitz[TR]; and controllinf the used

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; it wasn't like this originally

14:56 highest_cubist_thrills; The disease has been ignored so long because it is frequently masked under the rhetoric of sisterhood. In my own case, the ethic of sisterhood prevented a recognition of my ostracism.

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; they sought a business model

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; they were losing money

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; see what FB did with cambridge analytics

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; trhry started selling political outcomes

14:56 highest_cubist_thrills; The new values of the Movement said that every woman was a sister, every woman was acceptable. I clearly was not. Yet no one could admit that I was not acceptable without admitting that they were not being sisters.

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; analytica

14:56 highest_cubist_thrills; jo freeman: inclusion is not inclusive

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: this happens here too

14:56 schestowitz[TR]; divide and rule

14:57 highest_cubist_thrills; every woman was a sister, every woman was acceptable. I clearly was not. Yet no one could admit that I was not acceptable without admitting that they were not being sisters.

14:57 schestowitz[TR]; like trying to blackmail me into not reposting daeamonfc

14:57 schestowitz[TR]; and even banning him

14:57 schestowitz[TR]; to split a group that otherwise agrees on tech

14:57 schestowitz[TR]; cleverer people can smell those tactics from a mile

14:57 highest_cubist_thrills; to split a group that otherwise agrees <- idk

14:57 schestowitz[TR]; in twitter I get defamed as rape apologist

14:57 schestowitz[TR]; I barely had sex with women

14:57 highest_cubist_thrills; who here agrees with dfc on tech?

14:58 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont lie, ive read a couple things he wrote that were okay

14:58 schestowitz[TR]; and yet here we have some sick transphopbic pervert... calling me names

14:58 schestowitz[TR]; "toxic masculinity=" MJG

14:58 highest_cubist_thrills; and yet here we have some sick transphopbic pervert <- i dont think mjg is 2 of those 3.

14:58 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its amusing when you couch it that way, but not accurate

14:59 schestowitz[TR]; maybe a little exaggerated

14:59 schestowitz[TR]; but no more than he does to us

14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; like he does. yuk yuk uyk

14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; right

14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; no i got it

14:59 schestowitz[TR]; btw,

14:59 schestowitz[TR]; transphopbic rhetoric is a symptom

14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; i call you out on it but i also acknowledge that-- well, as an ironic joke its

14:59 schestowitz[TR]; usually men who try to impress other men

14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 146.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.50

14:59 schestowitz[TR]; about how machoi they are

14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; <highest_cubist_thrills> like he does. yuk yuk uyk

14:59 schestowitz[TR]; to compensate for things

14:59 schestowitz[TR]; like him being bald and very thin

3 PM, October 3

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; so he goes on and on about how "that other group" is [insult]

15:00 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> usually men who try to impress other men <schestowitz[TR]> to compensate for things <- incel culture is like this

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; I never bothered

15:00 highest_cubist_thrills; they care more about bragging than getting laid, even when they get something to brag about

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; too busy with my 'puter

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; online, trans people are good allies

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; they are very productive

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; they spend a lot of time online

15:00 highest_cubist_thrills; idk, i find computers as frustrating as women

15:00 schestowitz[TR]; to escape hecklers in society

15:00 highest_cubist_thrills; and the latter are a welcome distraction at times

15:01 schestowitz[TR]; depends

15:01 schestowitz[TR]; but anyway, many in gemini are trans

15:01 schestowitz[TR]; many developoers are too

15:01 schestowitz[TR]; because it's an escape

15:01 schestowitz[TR]; escape from people trying to not "miss out"

15:01 schestowitz[TR]; while calling them names

15:02 highest_cubist_thrills; id sooner expect it had more to do with the autism dovetail

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15:02 highest_cubist_thrills; but yeah sure

15:02 schestowitz[TR]; fwiw, I think I know why dmccc name-calls groups

15:02 schestowitz[TR]; his life always sucked

15:02 schestowitz[TR]; beaten up, rejected by parents etc.

15:02 schestowitz[TR]; and now poor and lonely

15:02 schestowitz[TR]; not that it makes race-baiting ok

15:02 schestowitz[TR]; *dmcc - typo

15:02 schestowitz[TR]; brb

15:03 highest_cubist_thrills; you lay into him as ruthlessly as mjg does when you talk like that

15:03 highest_cubist_thrills; i can guess why

15:03 highest_cubist_thrills; only difference is you let him talk and mjg tries to stop that

15:03 schestowitz[TR]; no, he is being racist

15:03 schestowitz[TR]; and it puts peopple off

15:03 schestowitz[TR]; it's not ok

15:03 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah it puts me off

15:03 schestowitz[TR]; but I don't ban, I confront

15:03 schestowitz[TR]; banning means he goes to worse forums

15:03 schestowitz[TR]; where people agree with him on this stuff

15:05 schestowitz[TR]; sorry, got distracted

15:05 schestowitz[TR]; sent message to friend

15:05 schestowitz[TR]; rianne has just sent her application

15:05 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=N8mzQKl1LH8

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=N8mzQKl1LH8

15:05 TR Bot; White privilege - Invidious

15:05 schestowitz[TR]; we needed to thank some people

15:06 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, dfc is in a bad situation, it's not an excuse though

15:06 schestowitz[TR]; but I won't ban him

15:06 schestowitz[TR]; we had worse than him

15:06 highest_cubist_thrills; let me know when he ditches his eugenics

15:06 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> we had worse than him <- oh?

15:07 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, ages ago

15:07 schestowitz[TR]; lots of terrible trolls

15:07 schestowitz[TR]; crica 2009

15:07 highest_cubist_thrills; /me imagines

15:07 schestowitz[TR]; it was hard to have the channel on without some babysitting

15:07 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR was the netkkjop

15:07 schestowitz[TR]; anti-linus groups infested the placer at time

15:07 highest_cubist_thrills; mincer should get an honourary ptsd diagnosis

15:08 schestowitz[TR]; flooding, crashing, throwing the worst text you can imagine

15:08 schestowitz[TR]; to vandalise it

15:08 schestowitz[TR]; some of them orgnaised and coordinated in dedicated anti-linus sites

15:08 schestowitz[TR]; which no longer exist

15:08 highest_cubist_thrills; anti-linus groups <- its probably the blanket. but hes like indiana jones with that blanket.

15:08 schestowitz[TR]; *anti-linux

15:08 schestowitz[TR]; i have that in some old bookmarks, but the links would n not work, unless you use wayback lachine

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15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; were they really anti-linux

15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; or just anti-cola

15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; because the ones i saw were anti-cola

15:09 schestowitz[TR]; we actually are way ahead and left behind the worst trolling

15:09 schestowitz[TR]; the media too clamed down the FUD a bit

15:09 schestowitz[TR]; but mostly because the media is dyiing

15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; lol

15:09 schestowitz[TR]; not because it "calmed" down by choice

15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; _________ is dying

15:09 schestowitz[TR]; look at zdnet.

15:09 schestowitz[TR]; 11+ days, no "linus" article

15:10 schestowitz[TR]; *linus

15:10 schestowitz[TR]; ->*linux

15:10 schestowitz[TR]; tthe only linus article they did last month was rust spam

15:10 schestowitz[TR]; promoting rust

15:10 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft github

15:10 schestowitz[TR]; trying to use his name/status to endorse it

15:10 highest_cubist_thrills; rust is one thing on github that would be just as terrible anywhere else.

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; linus is The Godfather of the Open Source movement, [sic] according to Intels CEO.

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/linus-torvalds-award/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/linus-torvalds-award/

15:11 TR Bot; Intel Treats Linus Torvalds as a Marketing Mascot | Techrights

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; then, in the regioster

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; zdnet's sjvn

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; cited MICROSOFT as endorser of Rust

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; inside Linux

15:11 highest_cubist_thrills; linus-torvalds-award <- do they give this to recognise sellouts, hostages of their own creations, what?

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; and then another person in the Reg (Reuper)( did the same

15:11 highest_cubist_thrills; if its the latter, they could give stallman one

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; it's like a Microsoft/GitHub PR campaign

15:11 schestowitz[TR]; paid for

15:12 schestowitz[TR]; Intel is all about ME ME ME

15:12 schestowitz[TR]; RMS does nto tolerate "ME"

15:12 schestowitz[TR]; or PSP

15:12 schestowitz[TR]; not playstation portable

15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; mincer: "As long as the standard is vague and utopian, it can never be met. But it can be shifted with circumstances to exclude those not desired as sisters. "

15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; sounds very coc-like. maybe there WAS an unwritten coc

15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; at least in feminism.

15:13 TR News; My last Overwatch 1 highlight ever. LET EM RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr55L_mQ0TM

=> ↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr55L_mQ0TM

15:13 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=Fr55L_mQ0TM

=> ↺ https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=Fr55L_mQ0TM

15:13 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | My last Overwatch 1 highlight ever. LET EM RIP - Invidious

15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; note it was feminists who introduced the coc to free software.

15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; feminist wiki, wasnt it?

15:14 highest_cubist_thrills; Thus Ti-Grace Atkinson's memorable adage that "sisterhood is powerful: it kills sisters" is reaffirmed again and again.

15:14 highest_cubist_thrills; Trashing is not only destructive to the individuals involved, but serves as a very powerful tool of social control. The qualities and styles which are attacked become examples other women learn not to follow -- lest the same fate befall them.

15:14 highest_cubist_thrills; they werent just cancelling stallman, but anyone like him.

15:15 highest_cubist_thrills; "This is not a characteristic peculiar to the Women's Movement, or even to women. The use of social pressures to induce conformity and intolerance for individuality is endemic to American society." <- 1976

15:15 highest_cubist_thrills; "The use of social pressures to induce conformity and intolerance for individuality is endemic"

15:15 highest_cubist_thrills; this was written less than 10 years before the fsf was founded.

15:16 highest_cubist_thrills; "This standard is clothed in the rhetoric of revolution and feminism. But underneath are some very traditional ideas about women's proper roles."

15:16 TR News; The ULTIMATE Steam Deck emulation setup is easier than ever! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NEhlY-r_6Uw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/NEhlY-r_6Uw

=> ↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NEhlY-r_6Uw
=> ↺ gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/NEhlY-r_6Uw

15:16 TR Bot; The ULTIMATE Steam Deck emulation setup is easier than ever! - Invidious

15:17 highest_cubist_thrills; This standard is clothed in the rhetoric of revolution and freedom, but underneath are some very traditional ideas about workers' and users' proper roles.

15:17 TR News; Debian Accepted mutter 43~beta-3 (source) into experimental https://tracker.debian.org/news/1356285/accepted-mutter-43beta-3-source-into-experimental/

=> ↺ https://tracker.debian.org/news/1356285/accepted-mutter-43beta-3-source-into-experimental/

15:17 TR Bot; Debian Package Tracker

15:17 TR News; [GIT PULL] hwmon updates for v6.1 - Guenter Roeck https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003000230.1008396-1-linux@roeck-us.net/ Source: Guenter Roeck | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003000230.1008396-1-linux@roeck-us.net/

=> ↺ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003000230.1008396-1-linux@roeck-us.net/
=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003000230.1008396-1-linux@roeck-us.net/

15:17 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] hwmon updates for v6.1 - Guenter Roeck

15:17 TR News; [GIT PULL] STATX_DIOALIGN for 6.1 - Eric Biggers https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzpXpalOcvwp+keu@quark/

=> ↺ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzpXpalOcvwp+keu@quark/

15:17 highest_cubist_thrills; The quest for "leaderlessness" that the Movement so prizes has more frequently become an attempt to tear down those women who show leadership qualities <- psydruid https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm

=> ↺ https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm

15:17 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] STATX_DIOALIGN for 6.1 - Eric Biggers

15:18 TR Bot; Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood

15:18 TR News; Test your Linux system with LTP | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-test-project-ltp Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-test-project-ltp

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15:18 TR Bot; Test your Linux system with LTP | Enable Sysadmin

15:18 highest_cubist_thrills; Many women who have tried to share their skills have been trashed for asserting that they know something others don't. The Movement's worship of egalitarianism is so strong that it has become confused with sameness.

15:18 highest_cubist_thrills; that means standing out would be confused with privilege

15:19 highest_cubist_thrills; and the cure to put the person standing out in their place? making them stand out more.

15:19 highest_cubist_thrills; if they want privilege, we will give them the privilege!

15:19 highest_cubist_thrills; just my interpretation?

15:19 highest_cubist_thrills; "Women who remind us that we are not all the same are trashed because their differentness is interpreted as meaning we are not all equal."

15:19 TR News; "That takes away precious hours, so its no wonder that 58% of US workers believe they can work remotely and finish job tasks on time." https://medevel.com/working-from-home-these-4-tips-will-help-you-to-stay-productive/

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15:19 TR Bot; Working from Home? These 4 Tips Will Help You to Stay Productive

15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

15:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Trashing only discourages other women from trying to break free of their traditional shackles."

15:21 TR News; 10 Best IntelliJ Themes and Color Schemes To Use in 2022 https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-intellij-themes-and-color-schemes/ Source: Ubuntu Pit | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/best-intellij-themes-and-color-schemes/

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15:21 TR Bot; 10 Best IntelliJ Themes and Color Schemes To Use in 2022

15:21 highest_cubist_thrills; heres a blast from the present:

15:21 highest_cubist_thrills; "Once under attack, there is little a woman can do to defend herself because she is by definition always wrong." <- 1976

15:21 highest_cubist_thrills; nothing like cancel culture at all!

15:21 TR News; In proceedings before CIC, IFF obtains website censorship orders from DoT and MTNL https://internetfreedom.in/in-proceedings-before-cic-iff-obtains-website-censorship-orders-from-dot-and-mtnl/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/in-proceedings-before-cic-iff-obtains-website-censorship-orders-from-dot-and-mtnl/

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15:21 TR Bot; In proceedings before CIC, IFF obtains website censorship orders from DoT and MTNL

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15:22 highest_cubist_thrills; Trashing involves heavy use of the verb "to be" and only a light use of the verb "to do."

15:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "Trashers also tend to use nouns and adjectives of a vague and general sort to express their objections to a particular person."

15:23 highest_cubist_thrills; once again for mjg

15:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "Trashers also tend to use nouns and adjectives of a vague and general sort to express their objections to a particular person."

15:24 highest_cubist_thrills; from jo freeman in 1976, describing how feminists tear each other down and push each other into dropping out (her words) of the movement

15:24 highest_cubist_thrills; "These terms carry a negative connotation, but don't really tell you what's wrong. That is left to your imagination. Those being trashed can do nothing right. Because they are bad, their motives are bad, and hence their actions are always bad."

15:24 highest_cubist_thrills; There is no making up for past mistakes, because these are perceived as symptoms and not mistakes.

15:25 highest_cubist_thrills; The acid test, however, comes when one tries to defend a person under attack, especially when she's not there, If such a defense is taken seriously, and some concern expressed for hearing all sides and gathering all evidence, trashing is probably not occurring.

15:25 MinceR; https://www.oglaf.com/wilyworm/

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15:25 TR Bot; The Wily Worm

15:25 highest_cubist_thrills; But if your defense is dismissed with an oft-hand "How can you defend her?"

15:25 highest_cubist_thrills; sarah mei, grand inquisitor, salesforce

15:26 TR News; "This is, of course, not the last word. Deepfake generators will figure out how to use these techniques to create harder-to-detect fake voices. And the deepfake detectors will figure out another, better, detection technique. And the arms race will continue." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/detecting-deepfake-audio-by-modeling-the-human-acoustic-tract.html

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15:26 TR Bot; Deepfake Audio by Modeling the Human Acoustic Tract - Schneier on Security

15:28 TR News; (NEW): OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Some_of_the_major_changes_since_ROME_Silver_Candidate.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Some_of_the_major_changes_since_ROME_Silver_Candidate.gmi

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15:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate

15:28 TR News; (NEW): ANAVI Macro Pad 10 - Knobs input devices run KMK firmware on Raspberry Pi RP2040 (Crowdfunding) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/ANAVI_Macro_Pad_10_Knobs_input_devices_run_KMK_firmware_on_Rasp.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/ANAVI_Macro_Pad_10_Knobs_input_devices_run_KMK_firmware_on_Rasp.gmi

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15:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines ANAVI Macro Pad 10 - Knobs input devices run KMK firmware on Raspberry Pi RP2040 (Crowdfunding)

15:29 TR News; (NEW): Streaming with Linux: TIDAL http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Streaming_with_Linux_TIDAL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Streaming_with_Linux_TIDAL.gmi

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15:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Streaming with Linux: TIDAL

15:30 highest_cubist_thrills; The New Puritans Mob Justice Is Trampling Democratic Discourse (Archived) By Anne Applebaum on The Atlantic.

15:30 highest_cubist_thrills; ^ via stallmansupport website

15:30 schestowitz[TR]; cann how > how DARE

15:30 schestowitz[TR]; "HOW DARE you defend RMS? think of the children"

15:31 schestowitz[TR]; me: whose? bill gates and jeffrey epstein;s?

15:31 schestowitz[TR]; lxo got some abuse?

15:31 highest_cubist_thrills; [trashing] is much more prevalent among those who call themselves radical than among those who don't; among those who stress personal changes than among those who stress institutional ones

15:31 schestowitz[TR]; how DARE his template email sign have a link to a site called stallmansupport??

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; we don't need facts

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; the twittercourt has already ruled

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; guilty

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; for door sign etc.

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; many peoppele still believe this btw

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; and when I show them it's fake

15:32 highest_cubist_thrills; There is nothing new about discouraging women from stepping out of place by the use of psychological manipulation. This is one of the things that have kept women down for years; it is one thing that feminism was supposed to liberate us from.

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; their reaction is, "wel... OK,... but [ssome other crap]"

15:32 highest_cubist_thrills; free software, free speech, free society

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; the confiormation bias is there

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; people don't like to admit

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; culpabilioty

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; and

15:33 highest_cubist_thrills; Yet, instead of an alternative culture with alternative values, we have created alternative means of enforcing the traditional culture and values. Only the name has changed; the results are the same.

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; gullibility

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; so they will loom for somer other ammo

15:33 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft github gnu.

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; sfc lf a bunch of .tools

15:33 highest_cubist_thrills; "Rage is a logical result of oppression. It demands an outlet."

15:34 highest_cubist_thrills; sfc lf a bunch of .tools <- penfold.tools

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; I first read that as "repe"

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; *rape"

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; "he raped me with his mind"

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; "I think he pictures me naked"

15:34 highest_cubist_thrills; "Because most women are surrounded by men whom they have learned it is not wise to attack, their rage is often turned inward."

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile, apple exac openly speaks about fondling large breasts

15:35 schestowitz[TR]; keeps all his income

15:35 schestowitz[TR]; "steps down" iirc

15:35 highest_cubist_thrills; the same goes for men on the spectrum usually

15:35 schestowitz[TR]; until he is epxected to do the imposible

15:35 schestowitz[TR]; lecture in portuguese

15:35 schestowitz[TR]; after travellingg andpreparing for weeks

15:35 highest_cubist_thrills; One can feel the sense of power that comes from having "done something."

15:35 highest_cubist_thrills; Trying to change an entire society is a very slow, frustrating process in which gains are incremental, rewards diffuse, and setbacks frequent.

15:36 highest_cubist_thrills; It is not a coincidence that trashing occurs most often and most viciously by those feminists who see the least value in small, impersonal changes and thus often find themselves unable to act against specific institutions.

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; you kknow, it's offline now, but one think I always remember

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; from identi.ca iirc

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; ggreve defended rms after that incident

15:36 highest_cubist_thrills; The Movement's emphasis on "the personal is political" has made it easier for trashing to flourish. We began by deriving some of our political ideas from our analysis of our personal lives.

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; and blasted people who uploaded that clip

15:36 highest_cubist_thrills; ggreve defended rms after that incident <- yeah

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; not sure which platform to

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some raw mp4

15:36 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad the rest of fsfe are mostly traitors

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; so you know original fefe was OK

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; ggreve was not compromised

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; *fsfe

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; he even defended rms after the freakout

15:37 highest_cubist_thrills; Trashing is also a way of acting out the competitiveness that pervades our society, but in a manner that reflects the feelings of incompetence that trashers exhibit.

15:37 highest_cubist_thrills; he even defended rms after the freakout <- its called a meltdown

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; ggreve swiss

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; iirc

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; or german who moved to .ch

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; the current fsfe is all german

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; they appeear to have reported me to twitter

15:37 highest_cubist_thrills; seizures are called seizures because theyre a medical phenomenon

15:38 schestowitz[TR]; for merely using the hashtag #gulagdeutschland to describe the org

15:38 highest_cubist_thrills; they arent someone going insane-- theyre a failure of the brain to function normally for a time.

15:38 schestowitz[TR]; ttwitter sided with me

15:38 schestowitz[TR]; nazis don't mind being called nazis

15:38 schestowitz[TR]; but when there is gulag $ at stake

15:38 highest_cubist_thrills; stallmans meltdown wasnt a freakout-- its an occurance of

15:38 schestowitz[TR]; then they get all nazi about it

15:38 schestowitz[TR]; and become moderation nazis

15:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i m ean you can use whatever word you want to

15:38 schestowitz[TR]; and ask to 'denazify' twitter

15:39 highest_cubist_thrills; its just one is stupid and thoughtless and the other shows understanding and compassion

15:39 highest_cubist_thrills; by all means ill defend your right to use the stupid and thoughtless one

15:39 highest_cubist_thrills; but ill also recommend you stop calling a freakout

15:39 schestowitz[TR]; ok

15:39 schestowitz[TR]; what would you call it?

15:39 schestowitz[TR]; breakdown?

15:39 highest_cubist_thrills; he had a meltdown or a panic attack

15:40 schestowitz[TR]; ah, yes, better wording

15:40 highest_cubist_thrills; in autism its called a meltdown. its more broadly referring to as a panic attack

15:40 schestowitz[TR]; not sure what freakout means 'technically'

15:40 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, I heard that

15:40 highest_cubist_thrills; neither of these phrases are thoughtless or dismissive

15:40 schestowitz[TR]; like when the shops ran out of toilet paper

15:40 schestowitz[TR]; and people who were blind and stuff suffered breakdowns in stores

15:41 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah feel free to say society is freaking out collectively when its being insane

15:41 highest_cubist_thrills; im not against using the word crazy when its as appropriate as any other wording

15:41 TR News; "Its best to have an entire room to yourself since privacy matters. People passing by are a distraction, especially if they often throw random comments. But even if you dont have a whole room to work in, you can create an office corner." https://medevel.com/working-from-home-these-4-tips-will-help-you-to-stay-productive/

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15:41 TR Bot; Working from Home? These 4 Tips Will Help You to Stay Productive

15:42 highest_cubist_thrills; some people are, i think theyre nuts.

15:42 TR News; SWI-Prolog version 8.4.3 (stable) released on 22 June 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Swi-prolog

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15:42 highest_cubist_thrills; the reason im a stickler (and only a little) about things used to describe stallman

15:42 TR Bot; Swi-prolog - Free Software Directory

15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; nearly every one of them has a term for it among people on the spectrum

15:43 schestowitz[TR]; an ex of his wrote that he had a phobia of being under water

15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; his "freakout" was a meltdown. a lot of people can relate to tht event.

15:43 schestowitz[TR]; and his head in particular

15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but maybe not as many people can related to those people.

15:43 schestowitz[TR]; which his why he did not wash his hair for long periods of time

15:43 schestowitz[TR]; until he got over that phobia

15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; his "toejam" was probably just a hangnail for fucks sake

15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; have you never bitten a hangnail when clippers werent handy?

15:44 highest_cubist_thrills; its gross that it was one on his foot yes

15:44 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1576796427409559558#m

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15:44 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Tonight on Russian state TV: the mood is grim, look at their faces. Dmitry Sablin, Deputy Chairman of the Defense Committee, admits that Russia desperately needs "to stop and regroup" and is experiencing all sorts of shortages, compared to Ukraine that has it all and then some."|nitter.it

15:44 highest_cubist_thrills; society has a THING about feet

15:44 highest_cubist_thrills; ew, feet.

15:44 schestowitz[TR]; and dicks... see clinton...

15:44 schestowitz[TR]; and antony weiner

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15:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's always feet and dicks

15:44 highest_cubist_thrills; probably not autism but yeah

15:44 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like some fetish domain name

15:45 schestowitz[TR]; how to cancel people:

15:45 schestowitz[TR]; look for footage of their bare feet

15:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean theres plenty of videos that combine feet and dicks

15:45 schestowitz[TR]; or photos of their junk

15:45 schestowitz[TR]; war crimes ok

15:45 schestowitz[TR]; just keep the weiner inside

15:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i agree that sending unsolicited dick pics is a bad idea

15:46 schestowitz[TR]; "zip it or we zap you"

15:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i think the person weiner (heh) sent them to was underage as well

15:46 highest_cubist_thrills; but i might be thinking of another one.

15:46 schestowitz[TR]; ballmer obviously got tyhose two dude uncomfortable... look at their hands

15:46 schestowitz[TR]; before he sat back down... clapping like a baboon

15:46 highest_cubist_thrills; yep. she was.

15:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i looked it up. not fair to him if she wasnt.

15:47 schestowitz[TR]; no, I think she wwas adult

15:47 schestowitz[TR]; unless there were several

15:47 highest_cubist_thrills; s/developers/basketball players/

15:47 schestowitz[TR]; but it was adultery too

15:47 highest_cubist_thrills; no, I think she wwas adult <- Anthony Weiner jailed for 21 months for sexting underage girl

15:47 highest_cubist_thrills; www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41391640

15:48 schestowitz[TR]; there was also an anti-snoweden anti-wikileakss troll from the nsa

15:48 schestowitz[TR]; john schindler

15:48 schestowitz[TR]; he got busted sending duick pics online

15:48 schestowitz[TR]; and some let him carry on writing like nothing happened

15:48 schestowitz[TR]; he was married too

15:48 schestowitz[TR]; I'm not sure if the schooll where he lectured fire him

15:48 schestowitz[TR]; or maybe he 'stepped down'

15:48 highest_cubist_thrills; A Movement that once burst with energy, enthusiasm, and creativity has become bogged down in basic survival -- survival from each other.

15:48 highest_cubist_thrills; 1976!

15:49 highest_cubist_thrills; so familiar

15:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder if mjg will read it

15:49 TR News; Andy Wingo writes about work-stealing and weak memory... https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/10/03/on-correct-and-efficient-work-stealing-for-weak-memory-models he should know... gnu.fools

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15:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder if anyone at lieplanet will figure out what really makes lieplanet less "safe"

15:50 TR Bot; on "correct and efficient work-stealing for weak memory models" -- wingolog

15:50 highest_cubist_thrills; these are narcissistic tendencies, imo the odds of self-realisation (at least in significant numbers) is very small

15:50 highest_cubist_thrills; phanes says impossible

15:50 highest_cubist_thrills; im only slightly more optimistic than that.

15:50 schestowitz[TR]; the term "safe" is not what thhe dictionary says

15:50 schestowitz[TR]; think not "memroy-safe"

15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; no theyre conflating safety with mob rule

15:51 schestowitz[TR]; but safe with money in it

15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; which is hilarious until it actually happens

15:51 schestowitz[TR]; FS is not safe

15:51 schestowitz[TR]; not much money in it

15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; the kind of "safe" at lieplanet

15:51 schestowitz[TR]; no need for safe

15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; when the rolling stones hired hells angels as "security"

15:51 schestowitz[TR]; SSchubb

15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; then they were "safe"

15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; when lieplanet uses psychological manipulation as assurance

15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; and as a tactic

15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; lieplanet has fuck all to do with freedom

15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; its a fucking counterrevolution

15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; its a corporate trojan horse

15:52 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/free-speech-dying/

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15:52 TR Bot; Free Speech is Becoming as Scarce as Independent Journalism (Even at the FSF) | Techrights

15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i think the situation looks better for free speech than the movement

15:52 schestowitz[TR]; safe means you are not invited

15:53 highest_cubist_thrills; in 2015 it looked BLEAK

15:53 schestowitz[TR]; and thus cannot confront certain claims

15:53 highest_cubist_thrills; safe <- from the nasty hangnail-eating commie threat

15:53 schestowitz[TR]; soem troll here tries to make out network also "safe"

15:53 schestowitz[TR]; by banning p[eople

15:53 schestowitz[TR]; int eh channel

15:53 schestowitz[TR]; and also blacklisting authors

15:53 highest_cubist_thrills; he only says that because he loves you

15:53 schestowitz[TR]; because they still believe and say what he said 10 years ago

15:53 schestowitz[TR]; or 20

15:53 highest_cubist_thrills; just like when you call him a troll

15:54 schestowitz[TR]; or 10 years before FSF gave him an "award"

15:54 schestowitz[TR]; for helping Micosoft

15:54 TR News; Who Are You (I Really Wanna Know)? Detecting Audio DeepFakes Through Vocal Tract Reconstruction | USENIX https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/blue Source: USENIX | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/blue

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15:54 TR Bot; Who Are You (I Really Wanna Know)? Detecting Audio DeepFakes Through Vocal Tract Reconstruction | USENIX

15:54 TR News; Deepfake audio has a tell researchers use fluid dynamics to spot artificial imposter voices https://theconversation.com/deepfake-audio-has-a-tell-researchers-use-fluid-dynamics-to-spot-artificial-imposter-voices-189104 Source: The Conversation

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15:54 TR Bot; Deepfake audio has a tell researchers use fluid dynamics to spot artificial imposter voices

15:54 highest_cubist_thrills; back later (probably)

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15:55 TR News; Thorsten Alteholz: "This month I accepted 226 and rejected 33 packages. The overall number of packages that got accepted was 232." http://blog.alteholz.eu/2022/10/my-debian-activities-in-september-2022/

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15:55 TR Bot; Debian Activities in September 2022 blog.alteholz.eu

15:56 TR News; "These articles are an interesting read not only if you're working on WebKit, but also if you are curious on how a modern browser engine works and some of the moving parts beneath the surface. So go check them out!" https://blogs.igalia.com/csaavedra/news-2022-10.html#D03

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15:56 TR Bot; Claudio Saavedra's ChangeLog - October 2022

15:57 TR News; "Just a quick report. I have posted the latest Limine Installer scripts here" https://bkhome.org/news/202210/limine-installer-fixes.html

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15:57 TR Bot; Limine Installer fixes

4 PM, October 3

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16:13 TR News; Crystal Linux | Impressive New Arch Based Distro - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v4wFxsFm8X0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/v4wFxsFm8X0

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16:13 TR Bot; Crystal Linux | Impressive New Arch Based Distro - Invidious

16:14 TR News; MacOS on Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dMLNP6FfhkI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/dMLNP6FfhkI

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16:14 TR Bot; MacOS on Linux - Invidious

16:14 TR News; MX Linux 21.2 Quick overview #linux #mxlinux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uoK7iMPPxWU | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/uoK7iMPPxWU

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16:14 TR Bot; MX Linux 21.2 Quick overview #linux #mxlinux - Invidious

16:15 TR News; Security updates for Monday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/910161/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/910161/

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16:15 TR Bot; updates for Monday [LWN.net]

16:17 TR News; Paul Wise: FLOSS Activities September 2022 http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2022/10/03/floss-activities/

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16:17 TR Bot; FLOSS Activities September 2022

16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

16:20 TR News; Wow, the Web site of Spamnil is about as ignored as his videos. "13 views"... what's the point even running the thing?

16:22 TR News; Security patches only for a fee? https://ubuntu.com//blog/iot-project-lifecycle-long-term-support-for-iot-devices

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16:22 TR Bot; project lifecycle long-term support for IoT devices | Ubuntu

16:23 TR News; "FOSSlife Team" = Microsoft liars. Watch them helping Microsoft... basically protecting criminals by blaming "Open Source" https://www.fosslife.org/hackers-target-it-staff-fake-job-offers-and-open-source-software see http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/

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16:23 TR Bot; Hackers Use Fake Job Offers and Open Source Software to Target IT Staff

16:23 TR Bot; Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights

16:29 TR News; Rakudo Weekly News: 2022.40 Learning to Core https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/10/03/2022-40-learning-to-core/

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16:29 TR Bot; 2022.40 Learning to Core Rakudo Weekly News

16:37 TR News; Clown, SAP, and Microsoft are the focus of today's SUSE. Or GAFAM+Proprietary Software https://www.suse.com/c/learn-engage-solve-join-suse-at-google-cloud-next-22/

=> ↺ https://www.suse.com/c/learn-engage-solve-join-suse-at-google-cloud-next-22/

16:37 TR Bot; Engage. Solve. Join SUSE at Google Cloud Next '22 | SUSE Communities

16:37 TR News; (NEW): Shows and Videos: Distros, WordPress, and Games http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Shows_and_Videos_Distros_WordPress_and_Games.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Shows_and_Videos_Distros_WordPress_and_Games.gmi

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16:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows and Videos: Distros, WordPress, and Games

16:39 TR News; ICBM looks for unpaid volunteers or slaves... so it can reduce operating expenses associated with testers (that's how ICBM views "community"... like plantation) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-to-fedora-37-upgrade-test-day/

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16:39 TR Bot; Contribute to Fedora 37 Upgrade Test Day Fedora Community Blog

16:40 TR News; I remember the days SJVN acted like a journalist, before he defected to MARKETING

16:41 TR News; Two clowns in one headline: this is today's Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/embracing-multi-cloud-container-development-platforms-drive-cloud-native-innovation

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16:41 TR Bot; Embracing multicloud container development platforms to drive cloud-native innovation

16:52 TR News; What's Going on in Embedded Linux? Watch the EEI Livestream on October 5 https://www.elektormagazine.com/news/what-s-going-on-in-embedded-linux-watch-the-eei-livestream-on-october-5

=> ↺ https://www.elektormagazine.com/news/what-s-going-on-in-embedded-linux-watch-the-eei-livestream-on-october-5

16:53 TR Bot; Embedded Linux Insights: Watch the EEI Livestream on October 5 | Elektor Magazine

16:54 TR News; "Chrome OS Linux". No Chrome OS is USING Linux and loves Gulag, i.e. it loves pushing spyware to people. https://www.howtogeek.com/835854/heres-how-steam-works-on-chromebooks/

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16:54 TR Bot; Heres How Steam Works on Chromebooks

16:55 TR News; Gulag to GNU/Linux founder: thanks for the work, now please drop dead and leave all your software to us.

16:57 TR News; Proprietary copycats of IRC are a lot worse because of gamification, scores, engagement, addiction etc. They're spyware that harms people's minds. Just use IRC 'proper'.

16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 161.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 116.16

16:59 TR News; The Web was doing great for half of its lifetime (so far) without "like" buttons. They're spurious, meaningless, an appeal to ego and not substance.

5 PM, October 3

17:00 TR News; Web 1990s: read. Web 2000s: read+write. Web 2010+: click, scroll, drool

17:03 TR News; Akademy Talks Day 2 - Jonathan Esk-Riddells Diary https://jriddell.org/2022/10/03/akademy-talks-day-2/ Source: Jonathan Riddell | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jriddell.org/2022/10/03/akademy-talks-day-2/

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17:03 TR Bot; Akademy Talks Day 2 Jonathan Esk-Riddell's Diary

17:08 TR News; "Based on the recently released Linux 6.0 kernel series, the GNU Linux-libre 6.0 kernel is here to clean up proprietary code." https://9to5linux.com/gnu-linux-libre-6-0-kernel-released-for-those-who-seek-100-freedom-for-their-pcs

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17:08 TR Bot; Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs - 9to5Linux

17:08 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.2.gmi

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17:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

17:12 TR News; 1990s WWW: we send you description of a page. 2000s: we send you a page linked to other pages and light code to enhance appearance. 2010s: you need some big programs for easier navigation in site. 2020s: you cannot enter our site at all until you download and run our proprietary JS bundles.

17:18 TR News; (NEW): IceWM 3.0.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/IceWM_3_0_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/IceWM_3_0_0.gmi

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17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines IceWM 3.0.0

17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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17:45 TR News; The State vs the climate gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20221003_state_climate

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17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; "theres a really irritating point that people on the left that goes 'well cancelling doesnt really end anyones career'" mjg likes to play this tune, or variations thereof

17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; this is still from the wynn video

17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; "i think people say this because theyre trying to mitigate any sense of guilt the might feel about how theyre treating people"

17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; "because its a really stupid argument" (cw: suicide)

17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; she said cw: im not really a cw; kind of person

17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; im my own cw by now

17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; cw: me

17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; "theres a lot of things that dont end your life that are still terrible"

17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; then she talks about august ames

17:56 TR News; (NEW): TUXEDO OS 1 overview | Surf, mail, work or play? Go for it! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/TUXEDO_OS_1_overview_Surf_mail_work_or_play_Go_for_it.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/TUXEDO_OS_1_overview_Surf_mail_work_or_play_Go_for_it.gmi

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17:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines TUXEDO OS 1 overview | Surf, mail, work or play? Go for it!

17:57 schestowitz[TR]; funny how the same crowd that accuses sites of driving people to suicid... tries to drive peopel to suicide

17:57 schestowitz[TR]; and those sites do not do is

17:58 schestowitz[TR]; some people on those sites, like some people in the forum, say things..

17:58 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, double standard is an inherent feature of these brigades

17:58 schestowitz[TR]; it's like women who joke about cutting off men's dicks

17:58 schestowitz[TR]; as punishment for things

17:58 highest_cubist_thrills; double standards and hypocrisy are corner stones of trashing culture

17:58 schestowitz[TR]; and then you respond,

17:58 schestowitz[TR]; "is it also funny to cut women's breasts as punishment?"

17:59 schestowitz[TR]; but being able to recognise double standard takes a certain mindset

17:59 highest_cubist_thrills; it's like women who joke about cutting off men's dick <- yeah, i didnt care for sharon osbourne ever again after seeing her light up with glee over the thought of a mans dick in a blender

17:59 highest_cubist_thrills; oh, cw: mans dick in a blender

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17:59 highest_cubist_thrills; but i didnt try to end her career or start a twitter campaign over it. i simply lost any interest in her as a person

17:59 starstreak; attack surface btw

17:59 highest_cubist_thrills; <3

6 PM, October 3

18:00 starstreak; another day, no gnome 43 :(

18:01 starstreak; arch did package gnome-console 43

18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; /me cancels gnome for hurting trans people

18:01 starstreak; lol

18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; :D

18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; also systemd is racist

18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; it just is

18:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and anyone who cant understand that is a horrible person

18:02 highest_cubist_thrills; winkwink

18:02 schestowitz[TR]; jokes about sextual mutilation are, to m,e as offensive as jokes about decapitation

18:03 highest_cubist_thrills; jokes about sextual mutilation are, to m,e as offensive as jokes about decapitation <- idk if i had to choose, id probably let the dick go

18:03 highest_cubist_thrills; just because without the other one i couldnt really enjoy it anyway

18:03 highest_cubist_thrills; but thats a very practical (nearly fucking autistic) take

18:04 highest_cubist_thrills; ideally the third scenario of killing the fucker who tries to take either one off seems like a good third option

18:05 starstreak; linucks btw

18:06 highest_cubist_thrills; its not as bad as it seems, you dont have to cheer me up constantly

18:06 starstreak; "Guh new slash Linucks" -RMS

18:06 highest_cubist_thrills; but you do :)

18:07 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: some do both

18:07 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, in south america

18:07 schestowitz[TR]; then stuff one inside the other

18:07 schestowitz[TR]; key word: mouth

18:07 highest_cubist_thrills; iirc, in south america <- that probably had more to to do with the guns mcaffee had

18:07 schestowitz[TR]; it sure scares the rest who are alive

18:08 highest_cubist_thrills; but you never know, i mean, hes not really ian murdock is he

18:08 schestowitz[TR]; drug cartels... that's one heck of a drug!

18:08 highest_cubist_thrills; cartels are the opiate of the mass... nothing

18:09 schestowitz[TR]; thrown under the bus

18:09 schestowitz[TR]; and well, he's dead (john)

18:09 schestowitz[TR]; if this is how billg speaks of a close friend

18:09 schestowitz[TR]; imagine how he thinks and speaks of "enemies"

18:09 starstreak; "He's dead, Jim" -McCoy

18:10 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/rabid-bill-gates/

=> http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/rabid-bill-gates/

18:10 TR Bot; Bill Gates Refers to His Business as Jihad and Accuses Java of Being a Religion With Rabid Supporters | Techrights

18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; /me just wants to love natalie wynn forever even if she becomes hitler

18:10 starstreak; every time i gave the ai "reptilian bill gates" it would just give me bill gates pictures so clearly he is

18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but if she becomes hitler i might cancel her just a little

18:11 schestowitz[TR]; hitlist

18:11 schestowitz[TR]; i think I'm in one

18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; hitlerlist

18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> i think I'm in one <- no, just a shitlist

18:11 starstreak; "His kernel is called linucks" -RMS

18:11 schestowitz[TR]; been a survivor though

18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; you want to be on a hitlist, so you can do a series about it

18:11 schestowitz[TR]; better shitlist than hitlist

18:11 schestowitz[TR]; hit is worse than just shit

18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> been a survivor though <- this i actually believe

18:12 schestowitz[TR]; hitman brett hart

18:12 schestowitz[TR]; canadian

18:12 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: own hart attack surfae

18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; dont fuck with canadians. they will fuck you up and then say theyre sorry.

18:12 schestowitz[TR]; i think both brothers are dead now

18:12 schestowitz[TR]; steroids and fall

18:13 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: all canadian wrestlers I know die with cancer or anabolic steroids

18:13 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, "british bulldog" was from BC

18:13 schestowitz[TR]; so not even british

18:13 schestowitz[TR]; just branding

18:13 starstreak; british columbia

18:13 starstreak; gtfo noob

18:13 schestowitz[TR]; didn't even reach my age

18:16 TR News; "CISA has issued Binding Operational Directive (BOD) 23-01: Improving Asset Visibility and Vulnerability Detection on Federal Networks, which seeks improve asset visibility and vulnerability enumeration across the federal enterprise." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/03/cisa-issues-binding-operational-directive-23-01-improving-asset

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18:16 TR Bot; CISA Issues Binding Operational Directive 23-01: Improving Asset Visibility and Vulnerability Detection on Federal Networks | CISA

18:16 TR News; CentOS Hyperscale SIG Quarterly Report for 2022Q3 https://blog.centos.org/2022/10/centos-hyperscale-sig-quarterly-report-for-2022q3/

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18:16 TR Bot; Hyperscale SIG Quarterly Report for 2022Q3 Blog.CentOS.org

18:18 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi

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18:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers

18:19 TR News; (NEW): CentOS, Red Hat, and Fedora Family http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CentOS_Red_Hat_and_Fedora_Family.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CentOS_Red_Hat_and_Fedora_Family.gmi

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18:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines CentOS, Red Hat, and Fedora Family

18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

18:30 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.gmi

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18:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers

18:30 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.2.gmi

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18:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

18:30 TR News; Links 03/10/2022: OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate and IceWM 3.0.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/icewm-3-0-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/icewm-3-0-0/

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18:30 TR Bot; Links 03/10/2022: OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate and IceWM 3.0.0 | Techrights

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18:43 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/tunnel-cam-manchester-united-63800390

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18:43 TR Bot; City 6-3 Manchester United: Tunnel Cam

18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 105.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 138.03

7 PM, October 3

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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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19:54 DaemonFC; I should post a bug report I suppose on dangling references to 90s/2000s instant messengers that are dead.

19:54 DaemonFC; But the GUI of SeaMonkey has gotten a lot less crowded with the removal of references to plug-ins, AIM, and such.

19:55 DaemonFC; That just shows what the long term technical debt of shoving in references to proprietary software is.

19:55 DaemonFC; 20 years later, you're still there and they aren't.

19:55 DaemonFC; People are going to look at the ZDNet spam about Microsoft Teams in the same way in just 5 years or so.

19:56 DaemonFC; Like, it's not even now what AIM was at its peak.

19:56 DaemonFC; They have to invent ways to promote this shit because shooting emails back and forth and CC-ing people who need to be in the know about the memo is too fast and easy and can be done with anything.

19:57 DaemonFC; The memo about the TPS report could just be sent to everyone in the office who needed it, and then they could reply and your email client would create a tree so everyone could read the replies and be up to speed with everyone else.

19:58 DaemonFC; Now they call a two hour mandatory video meeting where nobody is getting any work done. Oh, and you need this Microsoft crap for some reason.

19:59 DaemonFC; Then during the video meeting, someone is a cat and someone else forgets to turn on their privacy shade and gets caught masturbating because they have to be at the meeting but didn't actually care about the TPS reports.

19:59 DaemonFC; This Zoom Court shit going on is fucking stupid.

19:59 DaemonFC; People transmit gay porn into a courtroom and the lawyers show up with the cat face filter.

8 PM, October 3

20:00 DaemonFC; And the judge is over there admonishing people for turning his courtroom into a three ringed circus, but it's his own fault for telling them to use Zoom in the first place.

20:01 DaemonFC; But Zoom is kind of funny too, in its own way.

20:01 DaemonFC; It shows you just how trashy these people getting in trouble with the law tend to be.

20:02 DaemonFC; Right? I'm there wearing a suit even though I'm on Zoom going "Yes sir. No sir." and then you have people in their bed that are called "iPhone" and they have nappy hair and they're smoking weed in front of the judge and are high as fuck and they're saying the judge is full of shit right at him.

20:03 DaemonFC; One woman in Zoom Traffic Court was admonished by the judge for appearing in court on her phone while she was driving.

20:03 DaemonFC; The judge said she needed to pull over because she was committing a traffic offense while she was in traffic court.

20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

20:24 bagira; https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2019-07/msg00009.html

=> ↺ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2019-07/msg00009.html

20:25 TR Bot; [libreplanet-discuss] Nepotism, Conflict of interest: Debian GSoC/Outrea

20:39 DaemonFC; Most stall outs on the browser process in single-process mode (which is what SeaMonkey uses) are in poorly-written and bloated JavaScripts.

20:40 frog; there is only one solution to the technical and quality problems GNU/FSF etc. have: removal of GNU-toolchain (gcc,binutils) and removal of GNU-buildsystem (autotools,automake)

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20:40 DaemonFC; So basically the problem Mozilla is solving with e10s is that those really bloated and poorly-written JavaScripts get their own CPU core to bog down, which will hopefully stop them from freezing your entire browser.

20:40 DaemonFC; Which is a really shitty way to try to solve the problem.

20:41 DaemonFC; "MoonChild" (M.C. Straver) was right in saying e10s is a really shitty way to solve Web performance problems.

20:41 DaemonFC; It would be nice if they would stop blocking NoScript and making the user fight to turn it back on and insulting people who want to use it.

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20:56 AdmFubar; there's fungus among us https://www.statnews.com/2022/09/30/fungi-found-in-cancer-tumors-but-why-is-a-mystery/

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20:56 TR Bot; Fungi find their way into cancer tumors, but why is a mystery - STAT

20:57 AdmFubar; probably why I don't like mushrooms

20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 195.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 139.06

9 PM, October 3

21:03 starstreak; AdmFubar, i liked LSD a lot more than mushrooms

21:03 starstreak; mushrooms are too intense

21:06 starstreak; i wish the government would legalize LSD

21:06 AdmFubar; I kinda noticed that about you.. ;)

21:06 starstreak; AdmFubar, noticed what?

21:06 AdmFubar; yes that exactly

21:07 starstreak; i use gnome btw

21:09 AdmFubar; hhhmmm ok

21:09 starstreak; what is it about me that makes you think LSD or mushrooms?

21:11 AdmFubar; absolutely nothing

21:11 AdmFubar; just something I said off the top of my head

21:11 MinceR; limited slip differential?

21:12 AdmFubar; got you thinking there was something

21:12 AdmFubar; there is a little blue pill for that mincer

21:12 MinceR; "Made you flinch!"

21:13 MinceR; AdmFubar: Viagra? i don't need it.

21:13 starstreak; vajayjay

21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

21:27 AdmFubar; https://www.planetary.org/the-downlink/a-smashing-success

=> ↺ https://www.planetary.org/the-downlink/a-smashing-success

21:27 TR Bot; A smashing success | The Planetary Society

21:37 AdmFubar; https://linuxiac.com/tuxedo-os-1/

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21:37 TR Bot; TUXEDO Computers Released TUXEDO OS 1 to the Mass Public

21:43 AdmFubar; https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/ancient-nuclear-plant-computer-finds-new-home-in-bletchley-museum/

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21:43 TR Bot; Nuclear Plant Computer Finds New Home In Bletchley Museum | Hackaday

21:54 AdmFubar; you've been spotted! https://www.ghacks.net/2022/09/29/spotify-is-getting-installed-on-some-windows-pcs-automatically/

=> ↺ https://www.ghacks.net/2022/09/29/spotify-is-getting-installed-on-some-windows-pcs-automatically/

21:54 TR Bot; Spotify is getting installed on some Windows PCs automatically - gHacks Tech News

21:57 AdmFubar; https://www.databreaches.net/why-wont-they-tell-you-that-your-data-were-leaked-why-doesnt-the-government-make-them-tell-you/

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21:57 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/why-wont-they-tell-you-that-your-data-were-leaked-why-doesnt-the-government-make-them-tell-you/ )

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10 PM, October 3

22:06 DaemonFC; https://www.neowin.net/news/google-might-force-users-to-pay-for-premium-to-watch-videos-in-4k-on-youtube

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22:06 TR Bot; Google might force users to pay for Premium to watch videos in 4K on YouTube - Neowin

22:06 DaemonFC; "Pay for PREMIUM so you can watch 4K on a 5" iPhone screen!" -GULAG

22:06 DaemonFC; IIRC, the iPhone "retina" displays aren't even 1080p, so why would you pay to watch something the phone's screen doesn't even support?

22:07 MinceR; hypePhone users don't mind

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22:13 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/310061203_5429935183710653_2129939102217093000_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=EHsi75rtY8oAX9rP441&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT_KhZk29ngpXwvyDWf8uqqtNT3dclu42vsWeMzBsCNzkw&oe=633FD530

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22:13 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, in Flordia.

22:13 DaemonFC; *Florida

22:14 MinceR; :D

22:16 AdmFubar; monster low riders

22:17 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/03/tiktok_tracking_pixels/

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22:17 TR Bot; TikTok caught using tracking pixels just like Meta, Google The Register

22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

22:24 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1577044548236124160 "Musk, whose text messages revealed him to be an occasional reader of RT"

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22:24 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Self-explanatory."|nitter.it

22:24 XRevan86; Ye were supposed to be the chosen one!

22:25 XRevan86; https://neuters.de/world/musk-zelenskiy-twitter-showdown-over-billionaires-peace-plan-2022-10-03/ context

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22:25 TR Bot; Musk and Zelenskiy in Twitter showdown over billionaire's peace plan

22:26 MinceR; lol

22:27 MinceR; i think it was obvious for a while that he's not the chosen one, but a fraud

22:27 XRevan86; Starlink's are an incredibly powerful tool for Ukraine, so this is very awkward.

22:28 XRevan86; MinceR: I mean in this narrow context %).

22:29 MinceR; musk forced the founders of tesla out in 2008 and tried to take credit for everything they've done

22:29 XRevan86; Whose idea was the Tesla subway disaster?

22:30 MinceR; (which isn't even all that worth taking credit for)

22:30 MinceR; _()_/

22:30 MinceR; was it even branded tesla?

22:30 MinceR; i can't keep musk's transportation pipe dreams (literally) straight

22:31 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company "The Boring Company was formed as a subsidiary of SpaceX, before separating in 2018"

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22:31 TR Bot; The Boring Company - Wikipedia

22:35 TR News; iTWire - After 11 days, Optus finally says 2.1m customers had ID data stolen https://itwire.com/security/after-12-days,-optus-finally-says-2-1m-customers-had-data-stolen.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/after-12-days,-optus-finally-says-2-1m-customers-had-data-stolen.html

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22:35 TR Bot; - After 11 days, Optus finally says 2.1m customers had ID data stolen

22:35 TR News; Clickbait on Gemini gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/clickbait-on-gemini.gmi

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22:36 TR News; State vs Climate gemini://idiomdrottning.org/state-vs-climate

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22:37 TR News; "Unfortunately, we are still having what I call the "cloud apocalypse" here in Fairbanks, Alaska. This last week was a seemingly unbroken chain of overcast days and nights very thick clouds with some light rain here and there." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221003-0.gmi

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22:39 TR News; (NEW): LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (39/2022): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09, Akademy and an Update on Nemo Mobile http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_39_2022_Plasma_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_39_2022_Plasma_M.gmi

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22:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (39/2022): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09, Akademy and an Update on Nemo Mobile

22:40 TR News; How to Reduce Video Size (Compress) With FFmpeg - ByteXD https://bytexd.com/how-to-reduce-video-size-compress-with-ffmpeg/ Source: ByteXD | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bytexd.com/how-to-reduce-video-size-compress-with-ffmpeg/

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22:40 TR Bot; to Reduce Video Size (Compress) With FFmpeg - ByteXD

22:43 TR News; Paid-for puff piece about foreign lobby group of monopolies https://thenewstack.io/open-source-summit-introducing-linux-foundation-europe/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/

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22:43 TR Bot; At Open Source Summit: Introducing Linux Foundation Europe - The New Stack

22:43 TR Bot; European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights

22:45 DaemonFC; MinceRmusk forced the founders of tesla out in 2008 and tried to take credit for everything they've done

22:45 DaemonFC; He did the same to Paypal but wasn't as successful.

22:45 DaemonFC; Musk is an elitist far-right crank who the liberals subsidize and buy bad cars off of.

22:45 MinceR; +

22:46 DaemonFC; He says the danger to the planet is not enough kids and there's an underpopulation problem.

22:46 DaemonFC; He doesn't hit a limit to what his finances can afford and even if you split his wealth between 10 nasty heirs when he dies, they all become rich from doing absolutely nothing.

22:46 DaemonFC; And so do all of their kids.

22:47 DaemonFC; I don't think all of his kids are as bad as he is.

22:47 MinceR; and will probably use those resources to make life worse for everyone else

22:47 DaemonFC; At least one of them said she doesn't care to inherit anything from him, hates him, and disowned him as her father in court.

22:48 TR News; Crystal Crowder = webspammer. "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by Tronsmart..." So you do a FAKE 'review' for the company https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/tronsmart-bang-mini-portable-party-speaker/

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22:48 TR Bot; Tronsmart Bang Mini Portable Party Speaker Review - Make Tech Easier

22:49 TR News; (NEW): Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Does_Rust_belong_in_the_Linux_kernel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Does_Rust_belong_in_the_Linux_kernel.gmi

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22:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel?

22:51 TR News; [GIT PULL] kernel hardening updates for v6.1-rc1 - Kees Cook https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/202210011003.B89BF8B@keescook/

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22:51 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] kernel hardening updates for v6.1-rc1 - Kees Cook

22:51 DaemonFC; Courts can't change a biological fact. They can only create a legal fiction. It won't change her genetics anymore than a court order could turn me into a woman.

22:51 DaemonFC; But it is a public repudiation of her dad, and a fairly forceful one too.

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22:52 DaemonFC; Most normal people are inclined to protect children, even children that are not their own. It's one of those "subconscious programming" things that serves an evolutionary purpose.

22:53 DaemonFC; I recall reading a study, though, that showed that men responded more strongly to pictures of children that had similar facial features as theirs than ones that didn't look anything at all like them, whereas women do not.

22:54 DaemonFC; So it might explain why men are less willing to adopt unless they just lose an argument with their spouse, treat their step-children badly, etc.

22:54 DaemonFC; They may not even realize that they do it, or why.

22:54 TR News; "Loads of discoveries including quickly fixing command line flubs, a must-have tool for USB booting, managing snapshots, and a router distro. Plus the problem with open-sourcing AI, Graham makes a dreadful racket, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-197/ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-197/

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22:54 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 197 Late Night Linux

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22:54 TR News; OPEN SOURCE your Android Phone: open source Android ROMS and apps - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Llrrzh6hxcA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Llrrzh6hxcA

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22:54 TR Bot; OPEN SOURCE your Android Phone: open source Android ROMS and apps - Invidious

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22:55 TR News; The Best Method for Building a Custom Firefox Install on Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H7VcIIrdoXg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/H7VcIIrdoXg

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22:55 TR Bot; The Best Method for Building a Custom Firefox Install on Linux - Invidious

22:56 TR News; Weirdest Arch User Repository Package Ever Created! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bwTEAj5eF6o | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/bwTEAj5eF6o

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22:56 TR Bot; Weirdest Arch User Repository Package Ever Created! - Invidious

22:57 TR News; New release of Git and Phoronix has spun that as a Microsoft thing. Shame on Microbell.

22:59 TR News; TechRepublic = Microsoft DIPLOMA MILL SPAM https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-courses-linkedin-premium/ see also http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/spam-instead-of-news/

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22:59 TR Bot; Learning: The best Linux courses and tutorials | TechRepublic

22:59 TR Bot; Linux Today Back to Posting Spam Instead of News | Techrights

22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 158.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.58

11 PM, October 3

23:06 TR News; When Git has a release there is a formal announcement in a vendor-neutral mailing list. LWN and Phoronix link to an ATTACK on Git!! Yes, Microsoft proprietary GitHub as if Microsoft owns Git itself. This is tactless and harmful.

23:07 TR News; The impact of Free software on cybersecurity | Infosec Resources https://resources.infosecinstitute.com/topic/open-source-cybersecurity/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//resources.infosecinstitute.com/topic/open-source-cybersecurity/

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23:07 TR Bot; The impact of open source on cybersecurity | Infosec Resources

23:08 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Arch User Repository Package, Firefox, Android, and Late Night Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Videos_and_Shows_Arch_User_Repository_Package_Firefox_Android_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Videos_and_Shows_Arch_User_Repository_Package_Firefox_Android_a.gmi

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23:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Arch User Repository Package, Firefox, Android, and Late Night Linux

23:18 TR News; September GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Seventeen new GNU releases! https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/september-gnu-spotlight-with-amin-bandali-seventeen-new-gnu-releases

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23:18 TR Bot; September GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Seventeen new GNU releases! Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

23:18 TR News; (NEW): Git v2.38.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Git_v2_38_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Git_v2_38_0.gmi

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23:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Git v2.38.0

23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

23:20 TR News; (NEW): Everything You Need to Get Started With Arduino Projects http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Everything_You_Need_to_Get_Started_With_Arduino_Projects.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Everything_You_Need_to_Get_Started_With_Arduino_Projects.gmi

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23:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Everything You Need to Get Started With Arduino Projects

23:20 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.3.gmi

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23:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

23:23 TR News; This article hardly explains how this gets on systems in the first place and instead rambles about Microsoft, not Linux, issues https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/researchers-link-cheerscrypt-linux.html

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23:23 TR Bot; Researchers Link Cheerscrypt Linux-Based Ransomware to Chinese Hackers

23:27 TR News; Liam Proven, David Delony, and Arindam Giri on Debian changes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Debian_Results_for_non_free_firmware.shtml

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23:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian: Results for non-free firmware (UPDATED)

23:28 TR News; "After waiting for almost two, two, and a half months, I finally got mums death certificate last week. A part of me was saddened as it felt like I was nailing her or putting nails to the coffin or whatever it is, (even though Im an Agarwal) I just felt sad and awful." https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2022/10/04/death-certificate-legal-heir-succession-certificate-and-indian-beaureacracy/

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23:28 TR Bot; Death Certificate, Legal Heir, Succession Certificate, and Indian Beaureacracy. Experiences in the community

23:30 TR News; Mass surveillance. As if running and controlling your own PC is 'passe' https://www.storagereview.com/news/amazons-fully-managed-infrastructure-only-vdi-solution-announced

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23:30 TR Bot; Fully-Managed, Infrastructure-Only VDI Solution Announced - StorageReview.com

23:31 TR News; Waste of energy, ruining the planet https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/03/the-steady-hand-guiding-amds-prudently-expanding-datacenter-business/

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23:31 TR Bot; The Steady Hand Guiding AMDs Prudently Expanding Datacenter Business

23:32 TR News; vrurg: Did you know that https://vrurg.github.io/2022/10/03/coerce-with-long-name

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23:32 TR Bot; Did you know that - LFlat, The Home of Vrurg

23:32 starstreak; arch linux's gnome unstable source code is available on gitlab: https://gitlab.com/fabiscafe/gnome-unstable

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23:32 TR Bot; Bornschein / gnome-unstable GitLab

23:32 TR News; The Gallery: Can FMV Games Make a Come-back? https://boilingsteam.com/the-gallery-fmv-game-review/

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23:32 TR Bot; The Gallery: Can FMV Games Make a Come-back? - Boiling Steam

23:33 TR News; (NEW): Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt.gmi

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23:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt

23:33 TR News; (NEW): The 6 Most Effective Linux Parental Control Software in 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/The_6_Most_Effective_Linux_Parental_Control_Software_in_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/The_6_Most_Effective_Linux_Parental_Control_Software_in_2022.gmi

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23:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines The 6 Most Effective Linux Parental Control Software in 2022

23:33 TR News; [GIT PULL] Power management updates for v6.1-rc1 - Rafael J. Wysocki https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAJZ5v0ip_C6y1KopyN2pEs7dyqPw6NzKG1WtJSeqyKJeMOYwfA@mail.gmail.com/

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23:33 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Power management updates for v6.1-rc1 - Rafael J. Wysocki

23:34 TR News; Improved version of our popular "Embedded Linux system development" course - Bootlin's blog https://bootlin.com/blog/improved-version-embedded-linux-course/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bootlin.com/blog/improved-version-embedded-linux-course/

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23:34 TR Bot; version of our popular "Embedded Linux system development" course - Bootlin's blog

23:35 TR News; "For twenty-five years, SUSE has collaborated and innovated with Hewlett Packard Enterprises (HPE), to create a seamless hardware and software experience." https://www.suse.com/c/its-here-suse-rancher-sle-micro-and-k3s-now-available-with-hpe-pointnext-support/

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23:35 TR Bot; here! SUSE Rancher, SLE Micro and K3s now available with HPE Pointnext support | SUSE Communities

23:35 TR News; "The accepted sessions for the upcoming Netdev 0x16 have been posted. The conference will be held virtually and in-person in Lisbon, Portugal October 24-28. In addition, early-bird registration rates have been extended to October 4." https://lwn.net/Articles/910210/

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23:35 TR Bot; 0x16 accepted sessions announced [LWN.net]

23:37 TR News; "Oh yeah, you probably want to know if the game works as is on Steam? Actually, no. It wont work if you use the regular Proton or even Experimental, at least at the time of writing: the videos wont display, which makes the game unplayable. But GE-Proton (any recent version) will do the trick to make it work the way its supposed to." https://boilingsteam.com/the-gallery-fmv-game-review/

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23:40 TR News; USA: militarising even the education system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm_7BP0RxYs

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23:40 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=rm_7BP0RxYs

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23:40 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | Take Advantage of your Military Education Benefits! @CyberInsight - Invidious

23:41 TR News; Functionality ruined by excessive "design" in this case https://thishosting.rocks/how-to-create-an-impressive-website-in-terms-of-design-and-functionality/

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23:41 TR Bot; How To Create an Impressive Website in Terms of Design and Functionality

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23:42 TR News; XDA does a lousy job, helping Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux. WSL is an ATTACK on it. Make no mistakes about it... https://www.xda-developers.com/how-enable-systemd-in-wsl/

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23:42 TR Bot; How to enable systemd in Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)

23:43 TR News; Laura Tucker is posting spam as 'articles'. Great example of webspam in so-called 'news' sites https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/insignia-65-f30-series-smart-fire-tv/ Amazon is giving incentives to turn the Web into this sort of spamfarm

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23:43 TR Bot; Save $300 on an Insignia 75" F30 Series Smart Fire TV - Make Tech Easier

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23:52 TR News; Energy wasted, back doors too https://venturebeat.com/programming-development/intel-cto-wants-developers-to-build-once-run-on-any-gpu/

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23:52 TR Bot; CTO wants developers to build once, run on any GPU | VentureBeat

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