IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 29, 2023

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beginning of new day, August 29

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02:38 schestowitz; > > Just Gagan Mishra, I am not a part of it.

02:38 schestowitz; >

02:38 schestowitz; > To give you a bit more context, we worked in past.

02:38 schestowitz; >

02:38 schestowitz; > > We can run articles for you as a guest author if that's what you

02:38 schestowitz; > are after.

02:38 schestowitz; > Sure,

02:38 schestowitz; >

02:38 schestowitz; > > Can even link to your original to attribute.

02:38 schestowitz; >

02:38 schestowitz; > I apologize for any confusion; I did not fully understood what you saying.

02:38 schestowitz; When you have an article that is not a howto (we put these in Daily Links), it can be published in full in http://techrights.org & http://tuxmachines.org.

=> ↺ http://techrights.org
=> ↺ http://tuxmachines.org.

02:38 schestowitz; Your site recently wrote several non-howto articles.

02:38 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Resolving timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org )

=> ↺ http://techrights.org

02:38 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome to Tux Machines

02:58 schestowitz; Re: Tuxmachines: Broken Gemini links in Techrights news feed

02:58 schestowitz; > Hello.

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > The "Gemini Links" section of the Techrights news feed on Tuxmachines

02:58 schestowitz; > has broken links. It links to Gemini posts with HTTP instead of Gemini,

02:58 schestowitz; > because the protocol part of the URL (gemini://) has been removed. Those

=> ↺ gemini://)

02:58 schestowitz; > broken links lead to search engines like Google adding http:// by

02:58 schestowitz; > themselves, which creates pages not found errors in logs and alerts in

02:58 schestowitz; > Google Search Console for the respective domains.

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > The Gemini links on the Techrights page itself are correct.

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > Example:

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > http://www.tuxmachines.org/aggregator/sources/48#m2622344501

=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/aggregator/sources/48#m2622344501

02:58 schestowitz; > http://www.tuxmachines.org/aggregator/sources/48#m2622344501

=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/aggregator/sources/48#m2622344501>

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > Search for "Gemini* and Gopher" on the page, because the in-page linking

02:58 schestowitz; > (#m2622344501) doesn't work. For Saturday 26th of August 2023, there are

02:58 schestowitz; > some non-working links to:

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > //bbs.geminispace.org/s/discuss/4753

02:58 schestowitz; > http://bbs.geminispace.org/s/discuss/4753

=> ↺ http://bbs.geminispace.org/s/discuss/4753>

02:58 schestowitz; > //tilde.cafe/~stack/gemlog/2023-07-18.woke.gmi

02:58 schestowitz; > http://tilde.cafe/~stack/gemlog/2023-07-18.woke.gmi

=> ↺ http://tilde.cafe/~stack/gemlog/2023-07-18.woke.gmi>

02:58 schestowitz; > //zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/talking-about-the-weather.gmi http://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/talking-about-the-weather.gmi

=> ↺ http://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/talking-about-the-weather.gmi>

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > They all don't work, because the missing protocol will be completed to

02:58 schestowitz; > http, but the pages don't exist on the web, they only exist on Gemini.

02:58 schestowitz; > Search engines follow those links to no avail, but will try so for

02:58 schestowitz; > months or even years to come, because after they found the link, they

02:58 schestowitz; > won't give up easily.

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > It would be good idea to fix this and re-add the gemini: protocol part

02:58 schestowitz; > or to not publish those links at all.

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > Because even if those links are fixed, some Gemini capsules explicitly

02:58 schestowitz; > state in their robots.txt, that they don't want web proxies to expose

02:58 schestowitz; > their content to the World Wide Web. An example with content of the

02:58 schestowitz; > fictitional gemini://example.com/robots.txt http://example.com/robots.txt:

=> ↺ http://example.com/robots.txt>:

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > User-agent: webproxy

02:58 schestowitz; > Disallow: /

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > This states clearly, that nothing of this capsule should be available on

02:58 schestowitz; > the web.

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > Further info about robots.txt on Wikipedia:

02:58 schestowitz; > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt

02:58 schestowitz; > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt

=> ↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt>

02:58 schestowitz; > Further info about Gemini's robots.txt variant:

02:58 schestowitz; > gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/companion/robots.gmi

=> ↺ gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/companion/robots.gmi

02:58 schestowitz; > http://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/companion/robots.gmi

=> ↺ http://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/companion/robots.gmi>

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > Thanks.

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > (A person who's annoyed by search engines crawling non-existing links on

02:58 schestowitz; > their website and being spammed by Google's Search Console because of

02:58 schestowitz; > that, even though their robots.txt clearly forbids publishing their

02:58 schestowitz; > stuff on the web)

02:58 schestowitz; Hi,

02:58 schestowitz; I've just taken a look. This boils down to a buddy Drupal extension, which isn't just old but does not know how to deal with gemini protocol. The good news is, we'll be retiring the Drupal site (a year ago we already made a replacement), so no more links such as these will exist. Patching software for something we're already deprecating would be a lot of work.

02:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Could not resolve host: by; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// by )

02:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Techrights | Tux Machines

02:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://bbs.geminispace.org/s/discuss/4753 )

=> ↺ https://bbs.geminispace.org/s/discuss/4753

02:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://tilde.cafe/~stack/gemlog/2023-07-18.woke.gmi )

=> ↺ https://tilde.cafe/~stack/gemlog/2023-07-18.woke.gmi

02:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/talking-about-the-weather.gmi )

=> ↺ https://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/talking-about-the-weather.gmi

3 AM, August 29

03:00 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ http://example.com/robots.txt )

=> ↺ http://example.com/robots.txt

03:00 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | robots.txt - Wikipedia

03:00 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-gemini.circumlunar.space | robots.txt for Gemini

4 AM, August 29

04:20 schestowitz; Maybe the lawyer knows a plumber.

04:20 schestowitz; :P

04:20 schestowitz; Ariadne is talking to Matthew on his Also Shitter (Mastodon).

04:20 schestowitz; I shut GULAG up for a while by banning part of Noisytoot's name.

04:20 schestowitz; I'll take it off in a bit.

04:20 schestowitz; It's the middle of the night so he's hopped up on drugs harassing me about what phone plan Sprint put me on.

04:20 schestowitz; back

04:20 schestowitz; gulagboy is jjust bark

04:20 schestowitz; yyou can ignore him

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noon, August 29

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