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5 AM, September 11

05:49 schestowitz; email

05:49 schestowitz; Hi mate - we ok to chat here? :)

05:49 schestowitz; I don't want to give out any details or anything, I'm not sure who is in the channel

05:49 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> hi

05:49 schestowitz; Hey - Really just wanted to talk to you regards to this after reading your articles.

05:49 schestowitz; I was running background checks on this company as "Seems too good to be true" situation.

05:53 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> ii was there since 2011

05:53 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> my wife since 2013

05:53 schestowitz; Mhm. I'm just starting my linux career

05:53 schestowitz; UK or US - If its ok to ask?

05:53 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> UK

05:53 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> the company is UK

05:53 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> it is hiding in the US

05:53 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11014042/filing-history

=> ↺ https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11014042/filing-history

05:53 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> UK shell

05:53 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03633198/filing-history

=> ↺ https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03633198/filing-history

05:53 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | SIRIUS OPEN SOURCE LTD filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

05:53 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | SIRIUS CORPORATION LIMITED filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

05:57 schestowitz; I thought it was US based - its mixed bag. Interesting stuff, the CEO send me the initial form asking for information regarding myself etc - typical pre-interview crap

05:57 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> (there is a new shell in the US, bearing the name "Inc."

05:57 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> he also escapes his former wives

05:57 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> he had 4 daughterssssssss

05:57 schestowitz; :O

05:57 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> (typo, sorry)

05:57 schestowitz; You're fine

05:57 schestowitz; Just baffled by the amount of information surrounding this

05:57 schestowitz; Absolutely incredible really.

05:59 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> we resigned for a reason

05:59 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> my wife and I, same day, Dec 2nd

05:59 schestowitz; I saw the notice / video / documents etc

05:59 schestowitz; Incredible really

05:59 schestowitz; I'm stuck in a position as this would be a good stepping stone for me, but I don't want to deal with company drama.

05:59 schestowitz; Did you manage to find a good position post this ordeal?

05:59 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> i am not looking

05:59 schestowitz; Understandable

05:59 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> they stole money from workers for many years

05:59 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> we need to sort that out first

05:59 schestowitz; Yeah, I'm concerned with that to be honest.

6 AM, September 11

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> Also they offered an extremely low amount (25k)

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> let me tell you about that

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> when i joined in 2011 I did 2 days a week

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> then they lowered the pro rata amount

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> btw, they have not increased the wage since 2011

06:01 schestowitz; I saw the post. Yeah it really doesn't seem well

06:01 schestowitz; Something din't feel right about this company from the get-go

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> wait till you find out about personal lives :-)

06:01 schestowitz; Of the CEO or Managers?

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> both.

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> i understand your situation, i think

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> probably younger than me and eager to work

06:01 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> but not many companies hire

06:01 schestowitz; Yeah - 27 to be exact. Really just trying to break that wall down into the real industry - thought I got lucky here. Apparently not

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> one co-worker from brazil was paid 21k for the same position

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> same role, different salary

06:05 schestowitz; Helpdesk role right?

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> yes

06:05 schestowitz; Incredible - I would never do linux support for less. I already do part-time work for a different company

06:05 schestowitz; Where I develop my skills etc, including scripting etc. If the helpdesk role doesn't accomodate for development I don't think I will even take it. I bet they will lie through their teeth that it will though.

06:05 schestowitz; Having said that, after our conversation I'm very tempted to just reject the interview all out

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> that's another aspect

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> they cannot expect people to do development for a salary like this at times like 1am

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> inc. weekends and holidays

06:05 schestowitz; Woah woah, weekends and holidays?

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> yes

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> even xmas day

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> business as usual

06:05 schestowitz; You're joking right?

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> if you ask for a holiday, they can and do turn it down a lot

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> esp. in recent years

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> without bothering to even look for cover

06:05 schestowitz; Holidays are exactly that, holidays or extra pay (OT)

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> that enraged my wife and a colleague

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> no,no

06:05 schestowitz; Oh i can absolutely imagine

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> no extra pay in sirius

06:05 schestowitz; That's really bad. Like really really bad - I can't believe it

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> it gets worse

06:05 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> but you might not believe me :-)

06:06 schestowitz; Try me?

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> the cover if you take hpliday

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> might be the CEO who left abruptly

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> who doesn't know how to do the job

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> or the nonbinary third wheel of the Supporr Manager

06:06 schestowitz; The CEO will cover the role?... On such a big company? you're joking

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> who lef two months afgo

06:06 schestowitz; LMFAO

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> imagine seeing your manager holding hands with two women

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> who are not his wife

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> in front of all the staff

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> and giving them the role you appl for

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> but they don't have tech skills

06:06 schestowitz; That's incredible...

06:06 schestowitz; I may have to record my interview for record keeping.

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> it's good to record things

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> they tend to hide annnd lie

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> and they even lie about sending recordings

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> then they don't

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> like the time they told all of us they had signed an NDA with gates Foundation

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> curious timing

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> I was doing journalism on the topic

06:06 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> with FOIA in the Seattle PD

06:06 schestowitz; Seems to be that you've dug deep into them to be honest - What happen regards to Gates Foundation and Sirius? I din't read the article (apologies)

06:06 schestowitz; Interesting that they seem to be a google house now though - having said that?

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> that's the Support Manager's fauly

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> he kept saying stuff like "Google is your friend"

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> outsourcing became a thing

06:10 schestowitz; One of the questions I was being asked is "What are your skills like with Google workspace etc"

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> the people who pushed Google into the company have left

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> one in April, one in March

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> it's a miracle the company still exists at all

06:10 schestowitz; Seems like he is trying to revive it. I can see he has posted adverts for Senior staff on LinkedIn

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> i saw that

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> it's because people flee

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> and he cannot run the systems

06:10 schestowitz; Is he technical then?

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> semi

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> non-practising

06:10 schestowitz; Knows enough to be dangerous aye - we have that saying down here

06:10 schestowitz; I hope this page gets more exposure so that people don't fall for this. I'm still in two minds, because choices are pretty limited for junior devops type work and exposure in large enterprises.

06:10 schestowitz; Though highly leaning towards your opinion that I should run like hell.

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> the gig won't last long

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> might not be worth the trouble

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> can get uglier when HMRC and police get involved

06:10 schestowitz; I don't plan to be there long really, long enough to get some learning in and fast paced - plus that probably means redundancy

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> no

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> they don't pay severance

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> they make up excuses

06:10 schestowitz; Small claims will sort that out

06:10 schestowitz; Bit of a joke of a company to be honest though going by what you're saying

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> no

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> they hie in the US

06:10 schestowitz; genuinely seemed to have started on the right foot

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> and use false address in the UK

06:10 schestowitz; I appreciate the chat. I have the email you gave me and I'll keep that safe, poke you an email if anything goes sideways there and provide you all the details to freely make public.

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> yes, that can help

06:10 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> so we know what lies they might be telling

06:12 schestowitz; Before I go:

06:12 schestowitz; What interview questions would you say are essential to ask?

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> depends

06:12 schestowitz; I've taken a few notes by this conversation regarding pay, progress, positioning, responsibilities etc

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> do you ewant to get the job?

06:12 schestowitz; I'm in two minds

06:12 schestowitz; On one hand, experience and CV work

06:12 schestowitz; On another hand, very awful company

06:12 schestowitz; Though if you want to find out what they are saying to newcomers - now is a good chance.

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> did you see both wiki pages?

06:12 schestowitz; Both Wiki pages? I saw the index page and read majority of the articles.

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source

=> http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source

06:12 schestowitz; Reading

06:12 schestowitz; I love this one:

06:12 schestowitz; They try to claim not to know us,

06:12 schestowitz; Yet there is paper trail left right and center

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> takes time

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> months

06:12 schestowitz; Yeah I know. I've been involved in these types of proceedings before

06:12 schestowitz; Christ, this is pretty bad - though my question still stands. Is there anything you want me to ask?

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> it depends

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> if you don't aim to get the job, you could make a point instead

06:12 schestowitz; that would put me on the firing line

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> you are not detained :-)

06:12 schestowitz; this is true

06:12 schestowitz; No problem, but I will record the interview regardless

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> he just needs a tech butler

06:12 schestowitz; Thank you for your wisdom, your time and technicality in the issue. I really appreciate it and I'm sure others will too.

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> everyone else left him

06:12 schestowitz; Understandably so if this is how he treats people. I'll be sure not to fall for that shit regardless. I'll provide you all the information required. I'll archive this chat, I wish you all the best and I hope this goes your way for the sake of yourself and your ex-colleagues, justice clearly needs to be done.

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> thanks, many thanks

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> if you can gather information

06:12 schestowitz; <schestowitz[TR]> you can contact me

06:13 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Crimes of Sirius Open Source - Techrights

5 PM, September 11

17:20 schestowitz; Re: This guy tries to stop me from growing and making any money

17:20 schestowitz; Marius Nestor wrote on 11/05/2023 00:00:

17:20 schestowitz; > Hi Roy,

17:20 schestowitz; >

17:20 schestowitz; > Check out this hater (https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/15865

=> ↺ https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/15865

17:20 schestowitz; > https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/15865) trying to stop me

=> ↺ https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/15865>)

17:20 schestowitz; > from making any money. I recently started looking for sponsors from the

17:20 schestowitz; > Open Source/Linux community to sponsor my website so that I can finally

17:20 schestowitz; > get rid of those annoying Google ads.

17:20 schestowitz; >

17:20 schestowitz; > But someone out there doesn't want me to do that so they submitted my

17:20 schestowitz; > website to adblocking lists. This

17:20 schestowitz; > https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/15719

=> ↺ https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/15719

17:20 schestowitz; > https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/15719 was their first

=> ↺ https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/15719>

17:20 schestowitz; > attempt and it succeeded.

17:20 schestowitz; >

17:20 schestowitz; > In addition, I recently found out that they also blocked my social media

17:20 schestowitz; > sharing buttons on every article, even it they were created by me

17:20 schestowitz; > specifically to be privacy-aware and not track the reader.

17:20 schestowitz; >

17:20 schestowitz; > On top of that, they also blocked the links that people could use to

17:20 schestowitz; > subscribe to my various social media channels

17:20 schestowitz; > https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/14181

=> ↺ https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/14181

17:20 schestowitz; > https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/14181

=> ↺ https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/14181>

17:20 schestowitz; >

17:20 schestowitz; > Best regards,

17:20 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-9to5linux.com Issue #15865 easylist/easylist GitHub

17:21 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-9to5linux.com Issue #15719 easylist/easylist GitHub

17:21 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-9to5linux.com Issue #14181 easylist/easylist GitHub

10 PM, September 11

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