IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 09, 2022

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beginning of new day, June 9

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noon, June 9

12:03 schestowitz; >>>>> outreachy.dating is available. I have a lot of respect for women so I

12:03 schestowitz; >>>>> won't register that domain.

12:03 schestowitz; >>>> The narrative you use unfortunately leaves some women subjected to

12:03 schestowitz; >>>> unwarranted shaming already. With or without their names online...

12:03 schestowitz; >>>>

12:03 schestowitz; >>>> Not sure of the best approach, maybe blurring faces would have worked.

12:03 schestowitz; >>>> Focusing on the 'predators' and not showing who they are using.

12:03 schestowitz; >>> It is a very awkward question. If the faces are blurred then people

12:03 schestowitz; >>> can't see that it is the same girl in 3 or 4 photos at different events.

12:03 schestowitz; >>>

12:03 schestowitz; >>> When Megan Stammers (15) ran away to France with her teacher the

12:03 schestowitz; >>> newspapers all published both the name and the photo. They redacted the

12:03 schestowitz; >>> name until she became 18 and then they started using her name again.

12:03 schestowitz; >>>

12:03 schestowitz; >>> As long as the Outreachy money is on offer there is an actual risk of

12:03 schestowitz; >>> harm to women. DebConf22 appears to be a risk for women and it also

12:03 schestowitz; >>> appears to be a risk for innocent men who go there and accidentally get

12:03 schestowitz; >>> photographed with the pimp or a teenager. I was lucky to keep clear of

12:03 schestowitz; >>> all that on my visits there.

12:03 schestowitz; >>>

12:03 schestowitz; >>> The photos last week have been used many times before, sometimes

12:03 schestowitz; >>> blurred. This time people see the connection between the photos, they

12:03 schestowitz; >>> struck a chord, did you see the reaction?

12:03 schestowitz; >> yes, I guess the age factor is one of several factors that may cause

12:03 schestowitz; >> alienation

12:03 schestowitz; > The girls pictured with Lamb are born in 1994. There are no underage

12:03 schestowitz; > photos of those girls.

12:03 schestowitz; >

12:03 schestowitz; > There is only one girl who is 16 and she published the photo herself.

12:03 schestowitz; > But I can imagine some scenarios in which the photos are taken down

12:03 schestowitz; > after DebConf. As you saw yourself, the photos are making it more

12:03 schestowitz; > difficult for them to get female slaves to serve drinks and that is

12:03 schestowitz; > probably why they complained to you.

12:03 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; >> you can be 100% right, but if you alienate your audience, then...

12:04 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; > You told me that they were already lobbying you to stop syndicating on

12:04 schestowitz; > Techrights many months before these photos appeared. Other people gave

12:04 schestowitz; > me similar feedback about widespread vendettas to censor me. Have you

12:04 schestowitz; > seen any specific change in attitude from those who are behind the

12:04 schestowitz; > vendettas?

12:04 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; > Have you seen any change in attitude from readers/observers?

12:04 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; > Looking at the 15 resignations, I feel that the issue has had a very

12:04 schestowitz; > powerful impact for that subset of people even if some other people

12:04 schestowitz; > don't care at all. If you could choose only one of the following

12:04 schestowitz; > outcomes from your next piece of writing, which would it be?

12:04 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; > a) debian.community dispute confirms harassment by Debian

12:04 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; > b) 10 more really good developers resign

12:04 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; > c) 10000 end users click "Like" on an article

12:04 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; >

12:04 schestowitz; > Do you know anybody who likes to gamble with bookmakers like Ladbrokes?

12:04 schestowitz; > It would be interesting to see if they will give odds on the WIPO case.

12:04 schestowitz; > I don't think it would be ethical for me to open a bet myself.

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