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03:58 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1490767954631401482

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03:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz Guglag

03:58 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1490765758028304384

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03:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz A good left Vs right.

03:58 schestowitz; GyroGen(TM) (@GyroWaveGen_TM): "All BULLSHIT! The PTO won't allow ANY 'broad patents' anymore & is intent on stamping out any that somehow make it through! That's just plain unconstitutional and even worse, 'corrupt'! You should always be able to claim priority of prior applications (unless abandoned/expired)!" | nitter https://nitter.eu/GyroWaveGen_TM/status/1490763236253310979 #nitter | more in http://

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03:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | GyroGen(TM) (@GyroWaveGen_TM): "All BULLSHIT! The PTO won't allow ANY 'broad patents' anymore & is intent on stamping out any that somehow make it through! That's just plain unconstitutional and even worse, 'corrupt'! You should always be able to claim priority of prior applications (unless abandoned/expired)!" | nitter

03:58 schestowitz; schestowitz.com/2022/02/08/#latest

03:58 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/GyroWaveGen_TM/status/1490761819597721606

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03:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GyroWaveGen_TM: @schestowitz Doesn't even save applicants money!

03:58 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1490693334255509504

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03:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz They won't, too much money involved for them as a source of revenue.

03:59 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/GyroWaveGen_TM/status/1490510006504017922

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03:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GyroWaveGen_TM: @schestowitz Now they can't use the same arguments if they are sued for infringement. Risky strategy. Can work against you too!

03:59 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/GyroWaveGen_TM/status/1490509681877467136

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03:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GyroWaveGen_TM: @schestowitz So 'some' patents actually remain valid?!! WOW! How can that be?!

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08:53 schestowitz;

08:53 schestowitz; Converting Godot game engine to Meson, how you can help

=> Converting">↺ https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/02/converting-godot-game-engine-to-meson.html">Converting

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08:53 schestowitz;

08:53 schestowitz; As the actual devs are busy, what we can do is try to make things as easy for them as possible. In other words the port needs review and testing. The simplest way is to help is to check out the code from the meson branch of this repo, compiling it and running it. Then report your success (or failure) in this Github discussion thread. I will keep rebasing the branch against upstream master at regular intervals.</

08:53 schestowitz; blockquote>

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08:59 schestowitz;

08:59 schestowitz; Free software licenses explained: MIT

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08:59 schestowitz;

08:59 schestowitz; This is the first in a series of posts I intend to write explaining how various free and open source software licenses work, and what that means for you as a user or developer of that software. Today well look at the MIT license, also sometimes referred to as the X11 or Expat license.

9 AM, February 8

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09:15 schestowitz;

09:15 schestowitz; EUDCC QR codes vs NHS Travel barcodes vs TAC Verify

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09:15 schestowitz;

09:15 schestowitz; I discovered that, indeed:

09:15 schestowitz; My own NHS QR code is not accepted by TAC Verify

09:15 schestowitz; My own NHS QR code can be loaded into TousAntiCovid, and added to my wallet in the app

09:16 schestowitz; If I get TousAntiCovid to display that certificate, it shows a visually different QR code which TAC Verify accepts

09:16 schestowitz; This made me curious.

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09:17 schestowitz;

09:17 schestowitz; The EARN IT Act Is Back

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09:17 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.schneier.com | Essays: The 1998 Crypto Year-in-Review - Schneier on Security

09:17 schestowitz;

09:17 schestowitz; Senators have reintroduced the EARN IT Act, requiring social media companies (among others) to administer a massive surveillance operation on their users: [...]

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09:36 schestowitz; "

09:36 schestowitz; +1

09:36 schestowitz; Gary Hill

09:36 schestowitz; Gary Hill - 4 days ago

09:36 schestowitz; Thats rocking good news : )

09:36 schestowitz; Cajoh

09:36 schestowitz; Cajoh - 4 days ago

09:36 schestowitz; Peluza and Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Youre the best ! Go on, is there something I could do? And that deciding you writing about - you mean who will be the podmin?

09:37 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius

09:37 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - 3 days ago

09:37 schestowitz; @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () Excellent news, and thank you!

09:37 schestowitz; Manu Poletti

09:37 schestowitz; Manu Poletti - 3 days ago

09:37 schestowitz; @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (), Awesome job thank you. Remind me some time that I owe you a beer.

09:37 schestowitz; Stanisaw Findeisen

09:37 schestowitz; Stanisaw Findeisen - 2 days ago

09:37 schestowitz; Hi, is there a feature in Diaspora to enforce payments from users? In cryptocurrency perhaps?

09:37 schestowitz; I think that could make the job of running a pod much more interesting.

09:37 schestowitz; Part of the money could also be used to incentivize Diaspora development.

09:37 schestowitz; Stanisaw Findeisen

09:37 schestowitz; Stanisaw Findeisen - 2 days ago

09:37 schestowitz; https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/8335

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09:37 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | implement a feature to enforce payments from users Issue #8335 diaspora/diaspora GitHub

09:37 schestowitz; Cajoh

09:37 schestowitz; Cajoh - 2 days ago

09:37 schestowitz; Stanislaw: Quite good point. I tried to register to diasporg.eu or something like that and this pod have a sentence about paying one euro a month which is not optional. My opinion is that this monthly subscription is quite bad cause it looks like yea we dont show ads and sell your data (which is said there too) And it looks like those people dont know a thing about diaspora* and its privacy default setting.

09:37 schestowitz; Reichrnchen

09:37 schestowitz; Reichrnchen - 2 days ago

09:37 schestowitz; You seem to not have read the discussion at all. The issue is not really about money or any currency you can pay. It is about time, which is invaluable.

09:37 schestowitz; Have been following this thread and the countless notfication emails, its really annoying how many people repeat points and questions over and over.

09:37 schestowitz; There are talks going in behind how it can continue, thats it, all information currently available and you need to know currently.

09:37 schestowitz; Cajoh

09:37 schestowitz; Cajoh - 2 days ago

09:37 schestowitz; from the other hand I am glad that some people repeat it and support and caring about the thing (while there were no other information) you can opt out email notification if you want!

09:37 schestowitz; Pavithran S

09:37 schestowitz; Pavithran S - about 2 hours ago

09:37 schestowitz; Roy nice to hear that, any updates to share? Its getting awfully close.

09:37 schestowitz; "

09:37 schestowitz; https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896

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09:37 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via hq@feneas.org. You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/

=> ↺ https://git.feneas.org/feneas/

09:37 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab

09:37 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab

09:37 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab

09:46 schestowitz; > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]

09:47 schestowitz; > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]

09:47 schestowitz; > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

09:47 schestowitz; >

09:47 schestowitz; > I fully support the overall idea. I could suggest some specific points that

09:47 schestowitz; > might be good to mention in it.

09:47 schestowitz; >

09:47 schestowitz; > But I am disappointed that you didn't take the natural opportunity to

09:47 schestowitz; > support the free software movement substantially, and refer to what I

09:47 schestowitz; > or the FSF has published which agrees with these issues or goes

09:47 schestowitz; > further.

09:47 schestowitz; The "Bad Vista" campaign spoke a lot about these issues 15 years ago.

09:47 schestowitz; In other articles, Andy did mention the FSF. There is also this: "For example; roughly, a 1990s style simple HTTP web page of about 1kB consumed the energy of tossing a coin, or a bird taking flight" http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-9/

=> http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-9/

09:47 schestowitz; A long time ago I suggested that the FSF and GNU Web sites should have gemini:// presence (I've offered technical help with this) because, even though they render perfectly well in small browsers such as Netsurf, I reckon their overall energy consumption can be ~10 more than Gemini equivalents. Oliva spoke about gemini:// a year ago in libreplanet and I think it's worth taking this further.

09:47 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | My Year as a Digital Vegan Part IX Hard Reckonings: The Nine Circles of E-Waste | Techrights

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14:08 schestowitz; #GeminiSpace Growing Tenfold in 2 Years Seems Possible and Thats Good News for the Planet and for Mental Health Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/08/gemini-still-growing/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/08/gemini-still-growing/

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14:08 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Gemini Space Growing Tenfold in 2 Years Seems Possible and Thats Good News for the Planet and for Mental Health | Techrights

14:09 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/PetrCvicek/status/1491027704833273857 Petr Cviek (@PetrCvicek): "Tk se vech: because US providers are subject to American legislation such as the PATRIOT Act, the USA FREEDOM Act, and the CLOUD Act, which are designed to ensure that US authorities and intelligence agencies have access to personal data of EU citizens. http://techrights.org/2021/03/14/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-6/" |

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14:09 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PetrCvicek: @multispin @lukas_casar @kalousekm Tk se vech: because US providers are subject to American legislation such as https://t.co/vjI6LClHSB

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14:09 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PetrCvicek: @multispin @lukas_casar @kalousekm Tk se vech: because US providers are subject to American legislation such as https://t.co/vjI6LClHSB

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14:09 schestowitz; nitter https://nitter.eu/PetrCvicek/status/1491027704833273857 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/08/#latest

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14:09 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Petr Cviek (@PetrCvicek): "Tk se vech: because US providers are subject to American legislation such as the PATRIOT Act, the USA FREEDOM Act, and the CLOUD Act, which are designed to ensure that US authorities and intelligence agencies have access to personal data of EU citizens. http://techrights.org/2021/03/14/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-6/" | nitter

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14:09 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

14:10 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/LDeLION/status/1491046880977223680

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14:10 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@LDeLION: Riesgo y consecuencias de colocar 100mil hombres a no hacer nada bajo el fro. https://t.co/PLnpk4G894

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14:10 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: NEWS #CommonDreams #Ukraine #Russia Opinion | What the Cuban Missile Crisis Can Teach Us About Ending Hostili https://t.co/oqdNldDwYH

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14:10 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/FHeisbourg/status/1491037992429166593

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14:10 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FHeisbourg: Lesson 1: don't pour water on a tank in sub-zero temperature? https://t.co/nFQU1J8qTB

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14:11 schestowitz; Franois Heisbourg (@FHeisbourg): "Lesson 1: don't pour water on a tank in sub-zero temperature?" | nitter https://nitter.eu/FHeisbourg/status/1491037992429166593 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/08/#latest

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14:12 schestowitz; Forrest H. (@ForrestGUID): ":immediately downloads & installs new Peppermint on external drive: :discovers it uses systemd and that removing systemd removes many desirable things: :wipes it and installs Devuan:" | nitter

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16:02 blitzed; !COFFEE wooooooooooooooooo that makes me smile =^_^= -- Forrest H. (@ForrestGUID): ":immediately downloads & installs new Peppermint on external drive: :discovers it uses systemd and that removing systemd removes many desirable things: :wipes it and installs Devuan:" | nitter

16:02 blitzed; almost as satisfying as formatting over an OEM laptop which has Microsoft Windows on it...without even booting into the damn OS once

16:03 blitzed; I like Distrowatch's filter to list all distros which do not contain systemd \0/ https://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=All&category=All&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&package=All&rolling=All&isosize=All&netinstall=All&language=All&defaultinit=Not+systemd&status=Active#simple

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16:03 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.

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18:17 schestowitz; > Hey Roy,

18:17 schestowitz; >

18:17 schestowitz; > yes! Please let me know if you find someone or have someone in your mind.

18:17 schestowitz; > But keep in mind that he/she should be at least a bit trustworthy. It is

18:17 schestowitz; > a lot of sensitive data in this database ;)

18:17 schestowitz; >

18:17 schestowitz; >

18:17 schestowitz; > I am CC'ing Fla here to keep him in the loop.

18:17 schestowitz; >

18:17 schestowitz; > Best,

18:17 schestowitz; Hi,

18:17 schestowitz; I sent a message to Fla the other day. We need to progress this unless you and Fla have already made progress, seeing that we have 3 weeks left. Fla, did you receive my email?

18:17 schestowitz; Kind regards,

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22:02 schestowitz; > Thanks for your support Richard. Yes, I think the interpretation of

22:02 schestowitz; > non-free software as a form of pollution is quite compelling, and it

22:02 schestowitz; > isn't a stretched or tenuous analogy, there's a direct relation

22:02 schestowitz; > between the use of proprietary code, blocked reuse and consequent

22:02 schestowitz; > discarding of physical goods.

22:02 schestowitz; >

22:02 schestowitz; > I know this from personal experience of having to throw out locked

22:02 schestowitz; > phone handsets.

22:02 schestowitz; >

22:02 schestowitz; > But how a researcher would quantify this is unclear. It's a great

22:02 schestowitz; > masters or undergrad project for a student. Numerical data would

22:02 schestowitz; > bolster the position greatly.

22:02 schestowitz; >

22:02 schestowitz; >> But I am disappointed that you didn't take the natural opportunity to

22:02 schestowitz; >> support the free software movement substantially,

22:02 schestowitz; > Please allow me to explain my situation. Basically I'm just a guy who

22:02 schestowitz; > writes to spread my own philosophy and understanding of the digital

22:02 schestowitz; > world. I teach comp sci students and cybersecurity people to earn a

22:03 schestowitz; > little money, but nobody funds me. I rarely get paid much for writing,

22:03 schestowitz; > not enough to live on. There's always limited time and word counts.

22:03 schestowitz; >

22:03 schestowitz; > But most of all I am not beholden any specific institution or group,

22:03 schestowitz; > because my life experience is that petty internal politics always

22:03 schestowitz; > inserts itself before truth and honesty.

22:03 schestowitz; >

22:03 schestowitz; > I am a BIG supporter of Free Software and your philosophy, despite the

22:03 schestowitz; > ideological decline of the FSF and drift of the community toward

22:03 schestowitz; > apathetic pragmatism (evidenced by Microsoft GitHub now accounting for

22:03 schestowitz; > 80% of all "Free Software" hosting - which is a disgrace and defeat in

22:03 schestowitz; > my eyes)

22:03 schestowitz; >

22:03 schestowitz; > However, if you don't want to be "disappointed" then please work

22:03 schestowitz; > with me. I can give generously of my time and mind to give fresh,

22:03 schestowitz; > courageous and strong new frameworks for advancing the philosophies of

22:03 schestowitz; > software freedom. But there is little gained by me shouting into the

22:03 schestowitz; > wind. I understand that the FSF has its own internal struggle going

22:03 schestowitz; > on and isn't necessarily open to new ideas. I understand that GNU is

22:03 schestowitz; > it's own thing, specifically your (RMS's) thing, and is not a soapbox

22:03 schestowitz; > for any Tom, Dick or Harry to stand on. That's cool.

22:03 schestowitz; >

22:03 schestowitz; > In practice though, I think if you helped me rework the essay Roy

22:03 schestowitz; > published, as a co-author, and helped me find substantial publication

22:03 schestowitz; > outlets for it, we can get a message out to the world that Free

22:03 schestowitz; > Software is about the future, not just digital, but about the real

22:03 schestowitz; > world, ecology. education, economy, mental and physical health...

22:03 schestowitz; > there is a holism to our work that I think is quite overlooked at

22:03 schestowitz; > present.

22:03 schestowitz; >

22:03 schestowitz; > all sincere best wishes

22:03 schestowitz; > I am really quite enthusiastic about Gemini. Right now any investment

22:03 schestowitz; > in it would be largely "preaching to our existing congregation" but it

22:03 schestowitz; > has the potential to explode (for various political/practical reasons

22:03 schestowitz; > unfolding right now) and is a horse worth backing. Roy has been

22:03 schestowitz; > tracking the growth and stablility for a while now and it looks

22:03 schestowitz; > promising. A GNU/FSF presence in Gemini space would be a strong and

22:03 schestowitz; > inspirational signal, and something I'd be prepared to create orginal

22:03 schestowitz; > content for.

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