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07:45 schestowitz-TR; gm
07:45 schestowitz-TR; catching up
07:45 schestowitz-TR; brb
07:45 Techrights-sec; gm
08:15 schestowitz-TR; the ipfs in today's irc post is missing, i hope not due to a technical issue not detected at my end
08:15 schestowitz-TR; I'll check to be sure...
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09:19 Techrights-sec; it's more likely that the script here does not fail properly if the files
09:19 Techrights-sec; are not yet available when the script is run too soion
09:19 Techrights-sec; ^soon
09:20 schestowitz-TR; at around 3am my time the files become ready, or maybe by 4am for sure
09:20 schestowitz-TR; i can change the schedules, there is a chain of events, starting 2:30am
09:21 Techrights-sec; That is probably it then.
09:25 schestowitz-TR; about 98% of the time the pipeline works ok without need for intervention
09:25 schestowitz-TR; i have a set of sanity checks that I do after 4:05am
09:25 schestowitz-TR; btw, kiwi irc ha been having issues since sunday
09:25 schestowitz-TR; it seems to be not limited to any site or domain in particular
09:25 schestowitz-TR; we could add a self-hosted web proxy for irc
09:25 schestowitz-TR; there are several options if you fancy a little "sys OP" [sic] challenge
09:25 schestowitz-TR; thew quakenet one is less JS-intensive\
09:25 schestowitz-TR; one longstanding issue with kiwi is not the js per se
09:25 schestowitz-TR; but clownflare being in front of the site
09:25 schestowitz-TR; which means TR reveals visitors to clownflare
09:28 Techrights-sec; The MitM by Cloudflare should be mentioned specifically on that page then.
09:30 schestowitz-TR; you would be shocked if you saw how much of uk publiuc sector was outsourced to thisa mitm
09:30 schestowitz-TR; so as a taxpayer to get some service they subject you to AMERCIAN sites
09:30 schestowitz-TR; and the back end is also aws a lot of the time
09:30 schestowitz-TR; it's like we're a bana natio
09:30 schestowitz-TR; *nbanana
09:30 schestowitz-TR; the liz trump fruit company
09:34 Techrights-sec; https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/28/other-peoples-computers/#clouded-over
=> ↺ https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/28/other-peoples-computers/#clouded-over
09:34 Techrights-sec; paywall: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-27/software-makers-restrictive-license-rules-targeted-by-new-group
09:34 Techrights-sec; YouTube: two 30-second, non-skippable ads every 2 minutes or less :(
09:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 28 Sep 2022 Maintaining monopolies with the cloud Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
09:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
09:36 schestowitz-TR; alpine can be very challenging for big packages with many deps, but we can have a go at making
09:36 schestowitz-TR; ircgateway.techrights.org or similar
09:36 schestowitz-TR; port 80
09:36 schestowitz-TR; those loss leader [sic] clown computing BS is, to me, more of a military initative
09:36 schestowitz-TR; than anything of substantial value
09:36 schestowitz-TR; and we need to get others to recognise this and say this
09:36 schestowitz-TR; there's NO FREE HOSTING!
09:36 schestowitz-TR; No such thing
09:36 schestowitz-TR; Youtube: we show two ads you cannot skip... with some CRAP or "FODDER" after them
09:36 schestowitz-TR; Clownflare: we're still not sure how to make monet
09:36 schestowitz-TR; spotify/netflix: we collected a lot of data
09:36 schestowitz-TR; microsoft: hololens anyway? yes, we fired all the staff, but we need income, please~!
09:36 schestowitz-TR; youtube is worse because it purges and culls anything that does not please its political masters
09:36 schestowitz-TR; as per irc logs from last night:
09:36 schestowitz-TR; rt and sputnik are not 'blocked' by my ISP
09:36 schestowitz-TR; we're a very liberal nation, y'know..
09:36 schestowitz-TR; they started this BS by saying we need pr0n filters to "protect the kids"
09:36 schestowitz-TR; not they "protect" adults
09:37 schestowitz-TR; *now
09:37 schestowitz-TR; it'lle scalare further, in due course..
09:37 schestowitz-TR; depending how much PowersThatBe(TM) can 'generously' tolerate opposing views (or videos, since I made a typo)
09:38 schestowitz; https://webchat.quakenet.org/
=> ↺ https://webchat.quakenet.org/
09:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-webchat.quakenet.org | QuakeNet Web IRC (qwebirc)
09:39 schestowitz; https://development.quakenet.org/
=> ↺ https://development.quakenet.org/
09:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-development.quakenet.org | QuakeNet Development Team
09:39 Techrights-sec; Cory's post is quite relevant for this thread.
09:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe CohnPAC (EFF) will even allow him to post these views to a large audicience in eff.org
09:40 schestowitz-TR; or maybe not
09:42 schestowitz-TR; "Over the past 15 years, the United States has lost more than half the newspaper reporters covering state and local beats" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/28/policies-center-community-voices-are-key-solving-local-news-crisis | Source: Common Dreams
09:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Policies That Center Community Voices Are Key to Solving the Local-News Crisis | Amy Kroin
09:47 Techrights-sec; Significantly more than half are gone.
09:48 schestowitz-TR; i suppose it dpeends what gets counted
09:48 schestowitz-TR; e.g. "is the domain name still online?"
09:59 Techrights-sec; If you count the number of people employed in the branch, it's way more than
09:59 Techrights-sec; half gone. We had some articles on that in the last 18 months
09:59 Techrights-sec; ?? https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/
=> ↺ https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/
09:59 Techrights-sec; Worth a closer look.
09:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com | Home Page - Coalition For Fair Software Licensing
10:02 schestowitz-TR; i've looked around
10:02 schestowitz-TR; no idea who they REALLY are
10:02 schestowitz-TR; could be phonies like ACT
10:02 schestowitz-TR; where did you find the URL?
10:03 Techrights-sec; Indirectly via the above links. That's why they're worth looking at, to see
10:03 Techrights-sec; if they are legitimate or not; Either way action is needed to support or
10:03 Techrights-sec; to fight.
10:08 schestowitz-TR; it's very difficult to know
10:08 schestowitz-TR; they don't give it away upfront
10:08 schestowitz-TR; this weekend I meet my friend who lost almost all his money (and home) to "investors"
10:08 schestowitz-TR; and linus is adopting pile of shit recomended by microsoft azure cto
10:08 schestowitz-TR; because "security".... f*ing sjvn plays into it too
10:08 schestowitz-TR; citing microsoft as authority on security
10:08 schestowitz-TR; to me: warning signs are "fair"
10:08 schestowitz-TR; the word is used a lot by microsoft lobbyists
10:08 schestowitz-TR; like FRAND
10:08 schestowitz-TR; it's a meaningless word
10:08 schestowitz-TR; no legal bearingf
10:08 schestowitz-TR; the BSA too wars a "fair" share
10:08 schestowitz-TR; as you yourself like to say,
10:08 schestowitz-TR; the new currency is debt
10:08 schestowitz-TR; soi the surplus is not profit per se
10:08 schestowitz-TR; but derived by graft or similar
10:08 schestowitz-TR; debt issue
10:08 schestowitz-TR; then a bunch of vultures fight over whose bank account gets the minted 'coins'
10:08 schestowitz-TR; lawyer: the law need not be on our side, we can just endure the longest financially
10:08 schestowitz-TR; microsoft: we don't need to have good products, we can just lose money until our rivals cannot operate anymore
10:08 schestowitz-TR; (backup plan: bailout biden will give us "stimulus" for "defence")
10:11 Techrights-sec; https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/about-the-coalition/
=> ↺ https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/about-the-coalition/
10:11 Techrights-sec; They unfortunately use the misleading phrase "intellectual property"
10:11 Techrights-sec; https://www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Principles-of-Fair-Software-Licensing-1.pdf
10:11 Techrights-sec; Only points 2 and 3 seem relevant to software freedom.
10:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fairsoftwarelicensing.com | About The Coalition - Coalition For Fair Software Licensing
10:11 Techrights-sec; It's run by a lawyer
10:11 Techrights-sec; ack
10:12 schestowitz-TR; i never heard of them before
10:12 schestowitz-TR; they could be part turncoats like IP2innovative, peer2patent, and unifiedpatents
10:12 schestowitz-TR; one moment they support reform, then they take microsoft money and oibstruct opponents of swpats and UPC
10:12 schestowitz-TR; or gas light them
10:12 schestowitz-TR; "they're too radical anyway" (they don't take bribes form hostile firms)
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10:19 schestowitz-TR; topic aborted: patent and copyrioght troll
10:19 schestowitz-TR; i will tell you when there is something more newsworthy
10:19 schestowitz-TR; apropos, did you take a look at the irc gateway s/w?
10:19 schestowitz-TR; maybe it's a good opportunity to zap that clownflare thing
10:19 schestowitz-TR; techuser/some haxor complained about it
10:19 schestowitz-TR; at 17 he already knew LE and clownflare are bad
10:19 schestowitz; https://qwebirc.org/installation
=> ↺ https://qwebirc.org/installation
10:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-qwebirc.org | Installation - the qwebirc project
10:22 schestowitz-TR; python, openjdk...
10:22 schestowitz-TR; kiwiirc is a lot of nodejs and vue.js etc.
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10:48 Techrights-sec; I have not looked at the IRC gateway stuff
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13:25 schestowitz-TR; SFC hypocrites. We take Microsoft money, then tell you to "Give Up GitHub" (self-promotion for SFC). We moan that LF doesn't allow community in Board (to start a self-fund-raising campaign), now we outsource key parts GNU to LF. SFC: self-serving liars with PR skills?
13:49 Techrights-sec; ack
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14:40 schestowitz-TR; Torvalds in this photo. Zero girls. https://lwn.net/Articles/908323/
=> ↺ https://lwn.net/Articles/908323/
14:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-2022 Kernel Maintainers Summit group photo [LWN.net]
14:40 schestowitz-TR; i see LF is making huge progress lecturing us on "diversty and inclusion"
14:42 schestowitz-TR; i thought about doing a meme that shows fossforce before and after LF $
14:42 schestowitz-TR; but I don't want to hurt them
14:43 Techrights-sec; ack
14:43 Techrights-sec; probably not a useful idea to irritate without a positive direction to push
14:51 schestowitz-TR; can you find an LF page boasting about diversity?
14:51 schestowitz-TR; like, how they have lots of girls?
14:51 schestowitz-TR; because of coc/zemlin/corporations etc.
14:51 schestowitz-TR; like you said, the LF bribes FOSS blogs angle is mostly hurful to those blogs
14:55 schestowitz-TR; (remember IBM/Red Hat and LF keep weaponising this against communities
14:55 schestowitz-TR; all those salaried coders are not female)
14:56 Techrights-sec; checkingf
14:56 Techrights-sec; https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/press-release/linux-foundation-europe-launches
=> ↺ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/press-release/linux-foundation-europe-launches
14:56 Techrights-sec; ?
14:56 Techrights-sec; Yes and many (most) don't understand the weaponization, especially of the CoC
14:56 Techrights-sec; It's "mean" to criticize a /corporation/ for illegal, unethical, and anti-
14:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation Europe Launches to Foster European Open Source Collaboration and Innovation
14:56 Techrights-sec; competitive behavior especially if it hurts the kernel and the FOSS world in
14:56 Techrights-sec; general
15:03 Techrights-sec; https://www.linuxfoundation.org/research/the-2021-linux-foundation-report-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-in-open-source
15:03 Techrights-sec; https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/diversity-inclusivity
=> ↺ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/diversity-inclusivity
15:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 503 @ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/research/the-2021-linux-foundation-report-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-in-open-source )
15:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Diversity & Inclusivity | Linux Foundation
15:06 Techrights-sec; https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-foundation-starts-open-source-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-survey/
15:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux Foundation starts open-source diversity, equity, and inclusion survey | ZDNET
15:10 Techrights-sec; https://nitter.it/linuxfoundation/status/1532053871635447809
=> ↺ https://nitter.it/linuxfoundation/status/1532053871635447809
15:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Linux Foundation (@linuxfoundation): "Open source is all about #inclusivity, #diversity, #freedom, #equality, and #love. The Linux Foundation is proud to support the LGBTQI+ community around the world this month and always! #Pride #PrideMonth2022"|nitter.it
15:11 schestowitz-TR; ok, that last one is more sensitive and also does not pertain to a visible attribute
15:11 schestowitz-TR; I've started putting together a draft, but not much yet
15:11 schestowitz-TR; I will record some videos later
15:13 Techrights-sec; ack
15:14 schestowitz-TR; adding refs to keep it concise and to the point
15:23 Techrights-sec; https://blogs.vmware.com/opensource/2022/02/15/diversity-and-inclusion-two-success-factors-for-open-source/
15:23 Techrights-sec; https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-foundation-launches-free-online-inclusivity-training/
15:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blogs.vmware.com | Diversity and Inclusion: Two Success Factors for Open Source
15:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Linux Foundation launches free online inclusivity training | TechRepublic
15:24 schestowitz-TR; techrepublic+zdnet=two LF-FUNDED propaganda rags
15:24 schestowitz-TR; this tells you a lot about the state of churnalism
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15:38 Techrights-sec; Yep. Paid for in full.
15:40 schestowitz-TR; VERY crude first drfat
15:40 schestowitz-TR; did not even preview
15:40 schestowitz-TR; rianne saw the photo too
15:40 schestowitz-TR; sna noticed
15:40 schestowitz-TR; *and
15:40 schestowitz-TR; just this past minute
15:40 schestowitz-TR; she lef the house
15:40 schestowitz-TR; i'll record 3 videos soon
15:44 Techrights-sec; checking
15:44 Techrights-sec; M$ has worked hard to earn and stay the object of any hate it receives
15:45 schestowitz-TR; made edits
15:45 schestowitz-TR; will polish it now
15:45 schestowitz-TR; will record in a bit
15:49 schestowitz-TR; rianne pointed out torvalds has white hair and greg is very tall
15:49 schestowitz-TR; I will check 4pm nhs figures when this one is done
15:49 schestowitz-TR; than record
15:49 schestowitz-TR; covid numbers are rising, data out in 10 mins
15:49 Techrights-sec;
15:49 Techrights-sec; ack
15:49 Techrights-sec; GKH is quite tall, but LT might have shrunken a little too along with
15:49 Techrights-sec; his sudden onset, premature aging.
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16:14 schestowitz-TR; proofreading
16:14 schestowitz-TR; can you suggest how to cover this in video uniquely
16:14 schestowitz-TR; e.g. pointing how how LF does NOTHING about 'secure core' blocking Linux?
16:14 schestowitz-TR; the funny thing is, as much as they smear us
16:14 schestowitz-TR; we're one of the most diverse out there in FOSS
16:14 schestowitz-TR; IN SPITE of the smears
16:14 schestowitz-TR; today's epo video/article will cover diversity toowow!!!!
16:14 schestowitz-TR; 42% increase in cases in just one week
16:14 schestowitz-TR; I was expecting further growth after last week's
16:14 schestowitz-TR; but not that fast a growth
16:27 schestowitz-TR; with white hair , a robe, and therapists, maybe soon LF will just stuff the man into a mental asylum
16:27 Techrights-sec; ve shrunken a little too along with
16:27 Techrights-sec; his sudden onset, premature aging.
16:27 Techrights-sec; not sure
16:27 Techrights-sec; re: m$ "hate" : it's called learning from experience :/
16:27 Techrights-sec; Like in Soviet times
16:30 schestowitz-TR; COVID-19 Pandemic Isn't Over (Claiming That It is Only Worsens Things) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/BBB
=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/BBB
16:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/BBB )
=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/BBB
16:30 schestowitz-TR; OTA
16:31 Techrights-sec; The LF's CoC should be much shorted and consist of "is the code good?"
16:31 schestowitz-TR; if it's rust, then it is magically both good and secure
16:31 schestowitz-TR; OTA
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18:13 schestowitz-TR; done 3 videos, working on text now
18:13 schestowitz-TR; the first one is the hardest
18:13 schestowitz-TR; not the typos aspect
18:13 schestowitz-TR; but ensuring i don't say anything provably false
18:13 schestowitz-TR; writing is very slowly
18:13 schestowitz-TR; draft
18:23 Techrights-sec; ack
18:23 Techrights-sec; checking
18:23 Techrights-sec; "seduced" is the wrong word, at least with that phrasing
18:23 Techrights-sec; "these corporates then seduce and take over the entire thing"
18:23 Techrights-sec; ^corporations
18:23 Techrights-sec; ousted ... and brought back in a lower position
18:23 Techrights-sec; "comments, but almost ..." -> "comments, and almost ..."
18:26 schestowitz-TR; draft
18:26 schestowitz-TR; thanks, head hurts, need a nap, back later
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20:48 Techrights-sec; ack
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