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06:46 schestowitz-TR; i pushed a chage to git with favicon
06:46 schestowitz-TR; did not know how to pull it from the server
06:46 Techrights-sec2; tidied a lot of file system permissions in the Git repository; apparently
06:46 Techrights-sec2; that is how it is done :/
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06:56 schestowitz-TR; I've been thinking how the same CMS can be fitted into TR
06:56 schestowitz-TR; like some sites that have a subsite for in-depth "investigations"
06:56 schestowitz-TR; with more flexible (freeform) HTML than a CMS facilitates
06:56 schestowitz-TR; I also had literal shower thoughts on how to migrate TM, inc. some pseudocode, but that's for much later
07:32 Techrights-sec2; The slowing down of journalism seems to be monotonic and never recover after
07:32 Techrights-sec2; holidays and breaks.
07:32 schestowitz-TR; ha,
07:32 schestowitz-TR; iwas about to say
07:32 schestowitz-TR; a) geminispace was quiet yesterday and so far today
07:32 Techrights-sec2; ack
07:32 schestowitz-TR; b) lots og emini traffic in techrights in recent days, and its http proxy
07:32 schestowitz-TR; but tuxmachines can go on OK
07:32 schestowitz-TR; btw, I attempted to use tm-update last night
07:32 schestowitz-TR; using a command which I think worked before
07:32 schestowitz-TR; but could not get it done
07:32 schestowitz-TR; I wanted to add today's howtos as update to an earlier post
07:58 Techrights-sec2; checking
07:58 Techrights-sec2; tm-update seems to still work
07:58 Techrights-sec2; where any errors or warnings presented?
07:58 schestowitz-TR; I tried -u and then the url
07:58 schestowitz-TR; checking scrollback
07:59 Techrights-sec2; which URL ?
08:02 schestowitz-TR; seems to be working now
08:02 schestowitz-TR; I tried with another node
08:03 Techrights-sec2; ok, that's good
08:04 schestowitz-TR; irc was derailed topic-wise before
08:04 schestowitz-TR; needs observation for now
08:04 schestowitz-TR; as it might be short-lived
08:04 schestowitz-TR; rianne is leaving for 3 days in about an hour
08:04 schestowitz-TR; but my productivity levels will be the same
08:08 Techrights-sec2; ack
08:08 schestowitz-TR; I will think how to use tmux for monitoring of the new server, which is now running but only advertised in IRC for now
08:08 schestowitz-TR; I suck at making config files for tmux session that has the panes intact even after reboots (restoring them)
08:08 schestowitz-TR; I looked into it years ago
08:08 schestowitz-TR; should we add apachetop or similar?
08:09 Techrights-sec2; what is needed ? Launching tmux like that is just a shell script
08:09 Techrights-sec2; tmux ... ; ... ; ... ;
08:09 Techrights-sec2; etc
08:11 schestowitz-TR; will think about it during breakfast, e.g. what molnitor
08:11 schestowitz-TR; given that it's an up to date OS it might make sense to put ALL the monitoring on there, inc. TR
08:11 schestowitz-TR; afaik, upon launch tmux would not initiate an ssh connection to a peer (another machine)
08:11 schestowitz-TR; brb
08:11 Techrights-sec2; ok
08:11 Techrights-sec2; tmux cannot be reasonably nested however
08:12 schestowitz-TR; btw, I paid conil this morning for the time
08:12 schestowitz-TR; we were logged in anyway
08:12 schestowitz-TR; savers' rates went up from like 0.5 aer to 2.2 for 2 years (aer)
08:13 schestowitz-TR; still FAR below inflation rate
08:13 Techrights-sec2; ack
08:13 Techrights-sec2; yes and then there are the "service" fees to cancel even those small rates out
08:14 schestowitz-TR; they give no service really
08:14 schestowitz-TR; for some task we must book appointment
08:14 schestowitz-TR; walk is in not an optiomn
08:14 schestowitz-TR; massive queue
08:14 schestowitz-TR; and to book an appointment I can gues going through bots, costing time and money
08:14 schestowitz-TR; our calling rtates are high
08:31 schestowitz-TR; \
08:31 schestowitz-TR; there are about 11 httpd service running on the VM, not sure if this is intended
08:31 schestowitz-TR; ok, so I hve a tmax session running as "tuxmachines" with just top for now
08:31 schestowitz-TR; on "cavan"
08:31 Techrights-sec2; processes, yes, probably that is set in the Apache2 configuration file
08:31 Techrights-sec2; ack
08:35 Techrights-sec2; The number of spares can be brought down if necessary. Currently it is 10 spare
08:35 Techrights-sec2; servers:
08:35 Techrights-sec2; $ grep -r -E 'StartServers|MinSpareServers|MaxSpareServers|MaxRequestWorkers' /etc/apache2
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08:40 schestowitz-TR; if you are logged in as root, which I think means connected through the hv, can you make /var/log/apache2 more lierally accessible, e.g. to tuxmachines
08:40 schestowitz-TR; I want to tail -f for errors
08:40 schestowitz-TR; I am also guessing we won't be adding images to the site, as that would mean downloading a lot of files, both to the server and for visitors
08:46 Techrights-sec2; adding images would "only" be a matter of finding and tuning an acceptable work
08:46 Techrights-sec2; flow, more than just guessing and rolling out the guess into production
08:46 Techrights-sec2; Off hand, I can't think of an easy way that would involve only a single step
08:46 Techrights-sec2; or at most two steps.
08:46 Techrights-sec2; tail -f for errors would be a good idea but that is a good use-case for
08:46 Techrights-sec2; file system permissions or at worst sudo than root
08:46 Techrights-sec2; "server certificate does NOT include an ID which matches the server name"
08:46 Techrights-sec2; sftp+incron would be easier than that, but the step after that is unknown
08:46 Techrights-sec2; internal labeling within the cert is the issue, it would clear up some of the
08:46 Techrights-sec2; browser warnings as well; IIRC it is possible to make a cert which covers
08:46 Techrights-sec2; several hostnames or even a "wildcard" certificate
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09:31 Techrights-sec2; internal labeling within the cert is the issue, it would clear up some of the
09:31 Techrights-sec2; browser warnings as well; IIRC it is possible to make a cert which covers
09:31 Techrights-sec2; several hostnames or even a "wildcard" certificate
09:31 Techrights-sec2; For the images it might be possible to have an upload directory when serves
09:31 Techrights-sec2; as a staging area; incron could remove the images, make a thumbnail, and store
09:31 Techrights-sec2; them in a yyyy/mm/dd/ subdirectory within the web server's document root;
09:31 Techrights-sec2; then at that point they'd be publicly accessibe; then when referencing them,
09:31 Techrights-sec2; an absolute URL could be used but instead of getting blocked for hotlinking
09:31 Techrights-sec2; the files could be verified via the file system and then the URL converted
09:31 Techrights-sec2; to a relative URL. However, I feel the markup part of that is too nitpicky
09:31 Techrights-sec2; to be convenient
09:31 Techrights-sec2; FOSSForce has been inactive for a long time, any other feeds that TM shouud hvhave instead?
09:31 Techrights-sec2; LWN is out too
09:31 schestowitz-TR; good point re images
09:31 schestowitz-TR; one fallback is, have another teminal open, toss wget in there with url
09:31 schestowitz-TR; then make a new local url
09:31 schestowitz-TR; but that can come much later
09:31 schestowitz-TR; we can still change the cert, it's not like people assume it's production or forgery
09:32 schestowitz-TR; Until a decade ago I would have said groklaw
09:33 schestowitz-TR; rianne has just left
09:34 Techrights-sec2; I hope she has a good / safe trip
09:34 Techrights-sec2; maybe pick random URLs daily from Groklaw and use those?
09:34 schestowitz-TR; it would not news "news." site then
09:35 Techrights-sec2; ack
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10:28 schestowitz-TR; phone bank
10:28 schestowitz-TR; wait 4 minutes
10:28 schestowitz-TR; lady decides she cannot book yet
10:28 schestowitz-TR; I will phone you back
10:28 schestowitz-TR; time passes call, one ring only
10:28 schestowitz-TR; cannot answer that fast
10:28 schestowitz-TR; still waiting now
10:28 schestowitz-TR; cannot have music didn't even book an appointment yet
10:28 schestowitz-TR; "Smart"
10:28 schestowitz-TR; "Modern"
10:28 Techrights-sec2; :/
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10:46 Techrights-sec2; if you got the name of the person from the first call, then that can be mentioned and it will still be a setback but not quite back to the beginning
10:48 schestowitz-TR; what's the point having a number for booking an appointment if the people answering are too busy to book an appointment????
10:48 schestowitz-TR; I already explained to her our needs are more compliated than site and app
10:48 schestowitz-TR; and we must see someone "urgently"
10:48 schestowitz-TR; I will probably need to phone again, starting againt from scratch
10:48 schestowitz-TR; i gave my first name but was too optimistic to take hers
11:09 schestowitz-TR; oh phone
11:09 schestowitz-TR; holy hit
11:09 schestowitz-TR; what crap
11:09 schestowitz-TR; phone to book
11:09 schestowitz-TR; monday sue mart str. 3pm sophie
11:09 schestowitz-TR; scrobble herte for myself
11:09 schestowitz-TR; 12 mins on phone
11:09 schestowitz-TR; with manager
11:09 schestowitz-TR; what a fucking clusterfuck
11:09 schestowitz-TR; and now they say they cannot book an appointment after 2 people there said we should
11:09 schestowitz-TR; and we end up arguing about them being understaffed and misinforming clients
11:09 Techrights-sec2; it's essential, unfortunately, when dealing with bureaucracy to make a habit
11:09 Techrights-sec2; of jotting down the name, time, date, and topic onto a piece of paper or text
11:09 Techrights-sec2; file at the very /start/ of the conversation
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11:11 schestowitz-TR; I did, in hindsight, get the name of the first person and gave negative feedback to her manager
11:11 schestowitz-TR; maybe in the future a bank will just be "some aws account"
11:11 schestowitz-TR; "no branch"..."
11:11 schestowitz-TR; no nothing
11:11 schestowitz-TR; "online only"
11:11 schestowitz-TR; so what fucking service do the banks even GIVE?
11:12 Techrights-sec2; ack
11:14 schestowitz-TR; if you and I had the same convo 12 months agfoi I'd tell you interst rates were so laughable that you might be better off buying a safe
11:14 schestowitz-TR; and telling the bank to sod off
11:15 schestowitz-TR; you know, you need to ask for permission to take your OWN money
11:15 schestowitz-TR; that's one heck of a massive hidden risk right there
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11:18 Techrights-sec2; ack
11:43 schestowitz-TR; is there a simple way to aurorun the two scripts when a new page gets added?
11:43 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I saw that if I just run "refresh" it can make all those existing pages vanish 404
11:43 schestowitz-TR; so I now export first, then refresh
11:43 schestowitz-TR; otherwise pages that I add do not show up yet, either in the index or the rss feed
11:43 Techrights-sec2; ack
11:43 Techrights-sec2; yes the refresh script should do that now the tm-extract script was added to it
11:44 schestowitz-TR; brilliant, tested just now and it works well
11:44 schestowitz-TR; it's also fast on the server
11:45 Techrights-sec2; great
11:45 Techrights-sec2; though subjectively it was fast on the RPi too
11:46 schestowitz-TR; yeah, I just remmeber weeks ago for a few seconds there would be an empty page there
11:46 schestowitz-TR; I think that when adding a page it follows that the front page should self-update, otherwise I need to up press up a couple of times (used to be 3 times) to run another com
11:46 schestowitz-TR; command
11:46 Techrights-sec2; should the addition of a record trigger an refresh? ok
11:48 schestowitz-TR; https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/25/michigan-students-walk-out-ceremony-over-keynote-speakers-pro-forced-birth-views
11:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Michigan Students Walk Out of Ceremony Over Keynote Speaker's Pro-Forced Birth Views
11:50 schestowitz-TR; the evangelicals are winning
11:50 schestowitz-TR; locked down "computing " lobby
11:50 schestowitz-TR; the outsourcers of banks (outsoucring the jobs to clients)
11:50 schestowitz-TR; never mind war, climare, disease
11:50 schestowitz-TR; the first three are also a form of disease
11:50 schestowitz-TR; undoing centuries of human progress to suck out more capital from the "peasants"
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12:04 Techrights-sec2; had to fight with Git a while, try add-and-refresh-from-db.sh
12:04 Techrights-sec2; banks have discarded their traditional external customers in favor of
12:04 Techrights-sec2; financialization
12:06 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I can see now
12:06 schestowitz-TR; no -a option
12:06 schestowitz-TR; but my name is 3 letters so it's still fast
12:06 schestowitz-TR; (a lady just came from the energy supoplier to take power and gas readings, I kept distance, still a lot better than "online" and spy meters)
12:06 schestowitz-TR; but it scales poorly when only few households need a visit
12:09 schestowitz-TR; I'm relieved I did not screw up git last night, it was my first commit to that repo, I struggled a little at first
12:09 schestowitz-TR; as I tried to then pull in the fivicon changes to the server and did not succeed
12:09 Techrights-sec2; checking
12:09 Techrights-sec2; ack
12:09 Techrights-sec2; git is a bit complicated in most situations and the EXT file systems don't make
12:09 Techrights-sec2; shared work easier
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12:18 schestowitz-TR; yay. I've just made my firust successful page update.
12:18 schestowitz-TR; it's the one that says "UDPATEDx1" in the front page
12:18 schestowitz-TR; I had to run the refresh script after that for chasnges to take effect
12:18 schestowitz-TR; next I will try your new util
12:18 schestowitz-TR; I am guessing that to "bump it up" I'd have to change the date too
12:18 schestowitz-TR; in quiterss the update is not detected as I think it checks the url in the entry, which is the same,
12:18 schestowitz-TR; not the title change
12:18 schestowitz-TR; but different rss readers behave differentlty
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12:21 Techrights-sec2; excellent
12:21 Techrights-sec2; It should be in the feed by the modification date
12:21 Techrights-sec2; Within any given date though, things are sorted by record number.
12:21 Techrights-sec2; So it's there, there' just no hour:minute tracking
12:21 Techrights-sec2; a timestamp could be added to the keys table maybe
12:21 Techrights-sec2; ok thanks, it is best to keep it as simple as possible
12:21 Techrights-sec2; oh, I suppose there should be db locking for writes so that there are
12:21 Techrights-sec2; not problems like a race condition when (if) two edit at the same moment
12:23 schestowitz-TR; no need, the schema can stay simple for a simple site/s
12:23 schestowitz-TR; being able to post today's howtos as clusters helps compact the "bulletin"
12:23 schestowitz-TR; while at the same time having a fast burst of updates
12:23 schestowitz-TR; with indicating of when new stuff is added
12:23 schestowitz-TR; like a dozen stories about some system76 announcement
12:23 schestowitz-TR; i would have imagine that this is dealy with (lcokin) at the DB level, like queing up write operations
12:23 schestowitz-TR; but I don't know much about sqlite, we use postgres at work and I used mysql since ~2000 a lot
12:23 schestowitz-TR; sqlite is a quiet giant
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12:24 Techrights-sec2; I'll need to rearrange the internal workflow quite a bit for that one
12:24 Techrights-sec2; script, but I think it is a good idea to get that fixed
12:28 schestowitz-TR; so far it has been sufficientl.y robust from the users' end, in the sense that what's there does not break
12:28 schestowitz-TR; except last night when I ran the two commands or just one and then all the pages temporarily vanished
12:28 schestowitz-TR; the update mechanisms are great and importanty
12:28 schestowitz-TR; evenmn Gulag NOISE USED (used!) to cluster stories
12:28 schestowitz-TR; it got worse over time
12:28 schestowitz-TR; now, in rss, it does not provide excewprts
12:28 schestowitz-TR; I think for legal reasons (fair use litigation)
12:28 schestowitz-TR; but to see ALL the important stories reader rely on clustering, such as howtos all in one place
12:28 schestowitz-TR; programming in one place, ordered by language etc.
12:28 schestowitz-TR; next, I will try the new data entry util you made
12:28 schestowitz-TR; I just need to find material to enter, it's not longer a "junk" site to have a knock on
12:28 schestowitz-TR; btw, in apache configs I comments out 8 lines (4 http, 4 https) in case we want to restrict some things again
12:28 schestowitz-TR; this morning when I checked access logs it was around 4k lines
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12:40 schestowitz-TR; using the new script, it yielded the 30th record
12:40 schestowitz-TR; the front page was updated
12:40 schestowitz-TR; but the page itself (the new page) is 404
12:40 schestowitz-TR; so maybe missing a step
12:40 schestowitz-TR; it's the linky you sent me, open source xplained
12:40 schestowitz-TR; at the top
12:40 Techrights-sec2; I saw the Apache2 configuration change.
12:40 Techrights-sec2; what is the URL for the problem page? I can check
12:40 Techrights-sec2; checking
12:40 schestowitz-TR; thanks
12:41 Techrights-sec2; yep a step was skipped, puzzling since I recall writing it in
12:41 Techrights-sec2; fixing ...
12:42 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I noticed it now defaults to submitted using "Tux Machines"
12:42 schestowitz-TR; or should I run this xcript with my personal account, "roy", instead?
12:44 Techrights-sec2; ok corrected script
12:44 Techrights-sec2; defaults can be overridden but it takes the name from the $USER info
12:50 schestowitz-TR; it has shaped up to the point where rianne just needs to log in as rianne, run
12:50 schestowitz-TR; one comment, it autocompletes most things, "tidy"[ies] it up and then she can check the outcome
12:50 schestowitz-TR; I think marius is not checking his protonmail account, it might be years old
12:50 schestowitz-TR; he's a very nice person btw
12:50 schestowitz-TR; very reliable and principled too
12:50 schestowitz-TR; will never cover microsoft shit, ever
12:50 schestowitz-TR; i think it's part of the problem he had at softpedia
12:52 Techrights-sec2; yes
12:52 Techrights-sec2; good to hear
12:52 Techrights-sec2; too bad, it's a shame so many sell out and/or fall for the lies
12:52 Techrights-sec2; it's not that the lies are believable it's just that some are so eager to
12:52 Techrights-sec2; bend reality to believe the lies
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12:53 schestowitz-TR; now softpedia is all but officially a dead site
12:53 schestowitz-TR; you'll never see it
12:53 schestowitz-TR; they started their own death spiral
12:53 schestowitz-TR; btw, lxer aired out story, part iii, re security
12:53 schestowitz-TR; 95% of gnu/linux users don't trust microsoft
12:53 schestowitz-TR; but they are not in "publishers"
12:53 schestowitz-TR; don't pass muster
12:53 Techrights-sec2; I'm surprised it is such a low number ;)
12:56 schestowitz-TR; imho
12:56 schestowitz-TR; there are two (or more) types of "linux users"
12:56 schestowitz-TR; people who use it "at work" on some server but use windows/mac on a laptop
12:56 schestowitz-TR; and people who actually univerally gnu/linux users
12:56 schestowitz-TR; the former are the "practical" types who call the latters zealots
12:56 Techrights-sec2; the CSS still needs tweaking for some of the posts ???
12:56 schestowitz-TR; because it's "only for geeks"
12:56 schestowitz-TR; that's because gnu/linux became so dominant in servers that they always deploy to it
12:57 schestowitz-TR; even from some mac witrh electron or whatnot
12:57 schestowitz-TR; and then they use LF, OSI etc. to wield influence
12:57 schestowitz-TR; they are "linux tourists"
12:58 schestowitz-TR; wait, no, it was worse as it took down the bodiy of the page to the bottom, BELOW 9to5Linux
12:59 schestowitz-TR; one thing i noticed, in some browsers (a day ago in quiterss, maybe resolved already),
12:59 schestowitz-TR; if the title of a post is very long it would rather push out the right-hand pane to the botton of the page than expand the title (headline) to a second/third line
12:59 schestowitz-TR; depending on the browser
12:59 schestowitz-TR; wait, no, it was worse as it took down the bodiy of the page to the bottom, BELOW 9to5Linux
13:00 Techrights-sec2; yes I would like it to do that but don't know how; I spent quite bit of time
13:00 Techrights-sec2; on just that, last week, but made no progress.
13:00 Techrights-sec2; the way to experiment with that is not via the live CSS nor the live scripts
13:00 Techrights-sec2; but to save a copy of one of the posts locally and work on it in the local
13:00 Techrights-sec2; file system without a web server; however, after spending quite a bit of time
13:00 Techrights-sec2; on it, I was still no closer to the desired result;
13:03 schestowitz-TR; I have had this problem in my personal blog,as the engines that are not gecko render the side menu always at the bottom
13:03 schestowitz-TR; the same thing happened with techrights wiki sidebar
13:03 schestowitz-TR; a decade later I didn't find a solution and hardly pursued one
13:03 schestowitz-TR; the web is too complex
13:03 schestowitz-TR; you change nothing in your site
13:03 schestowitz-TR; then opera renders it wrong
13:03 schestowitz-TR; then chromne
13:03 schestowitz-TR; and then chrome becomes almost every browser
13:03 schestowitz-TR; so your old page suddenly looks "wrong"
13:03 schestowitz-TR; lwn always kept it simple and it seems to work well on many devices
13:03 schestowitz-TR; what they wrote about wipo was biased and disappointin
13:03 schestowitz-TR; they have quite a history doing this...
13:03 schestowitz-TR; Corbet was author... LF
13:08 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:08 Techrights-sec2; as predicted the Xbox was / is a testbed for DRM in commodity hardware
13:08 schestowitz-TR; not just xbox
13:09 schestowitz-TR; the tpm ambitions go a long way back
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13:10 Techrights-sec2; yes but the Xbox, specifically, was a step along that road and very clear
13:10 Techrights-sec2; about what their long term goals were;
13:10 Techrights-sec2; They also went after a BIOS maker long prior to UEFI
13:11 schestowitz-TR; TR covered the Pheonix affairs several times
13:11 schestowitz-TR; and said it was about locking things down
13:11 schestowitz-TR; it was around 2008 or 2009
13:11 schestowitz-TR; half a decade before security threatre geneticiss as a mole
13:12 Techrights-sec2; yes; sadly when such attacks appear as incremental changes or as "too technical"
13:12 Techrights-sec2; then the public not just lets the attacks slide but eventually come to embrace
13:12 Techrights-sec2; them after 18 months or so
13:14 schestowitz-TR; it is an eternal fight-back
13:14 schestowitz-TR; china won't take shit
13:14 schestowitz-TR; and so you can hope that on a national level these measures will be thwarted
13:14 schestowitz-TR; like germany turning down UEFI sec theatre
13:14 schestowitz-TR; and russia putting in the bin some so-called 'IP'
13:14 schestowitz-TR; china can reverse-engineer and how the know-how for making the same chips
13:14 schestowitz-TR; sans the BS
13:14 schestowitz-TR; like the TN physical machine, which lacks the ME
13:14 schestowitz-TR; *TM
13:16 Techrights-sec2; China wants the same control but with them in charge so they don't object
13:16 Techrights-sec2; to the technology as much as about who is holding the reins
13:16 Techrights-sec2; soon lacking the ME or the TPM3 or the Pluton will be deemed illegal
13:16 Techrights-sec2; just like whitebox PCs were deemed illegal by bought-and-paid-for politicians
13:16 Techrights-sec2; around the globe
13:18 schestowitz-TR; being naked (PC) in public is indecent, at the very least
13:18 schestowitz-TR; and not buying a PC encumbered with Bill and Lolita Gates malware
13:18 schestowitz-TR; is a sign of sympathy for ISIS
13:18 schestowitz-TR; also: according to Bill and Lolita Gates, encryption should be illegal,
13:18 schestowitz-TR; except when Bill and Lolita Gates use it
13:18 schestowitz-TR; and in Twitter criticising the death cult of Bill and Lolita Gates is
13:18 schestowitz-TR; also illegal
13:18 schestowitz-TR; and will get you repeate4dly suspended
13:18 schestowitz-TR; until you stop mentioning the Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation
13:18 schestowitz-TR; and how it profits from death
13:18 Techrights-sec2; or some such excuse though the politicians seem to gain from allowing the daesh
13:18 Techrights-sec2; to spread and increase
13:18 Techrights-sec2; yep
13:18 Techrights-sec2; I've noticed that
13:18 Techrights-sec2; for a long time
13:18 Techrights-sec2; same for Reddit, where Bill's minions control most of the forums
13:19 Techrights-sec2; and subforums
13:21 schestowitz-TR; I've noticed how, since Pro Publica bagged bribes from Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation
13:21 schestowitz-TR; it still write about tax evasion and oligarchs but leaps over the mention of Bill
13:21 schestowitz-TR; and stop its seires about the Microsoft IRS affairs
13:21 schestowitz-TR; the corrupting power of money
13:21 schestowitz-TR; to me, Pro Publica is something that used to be good,
13:21 schestowitz-TR; Lessign was a big fan of it
13:21 schestowitz-TR; but funding must have run low (very few new stories, shorter ones, less impact)
13:21 schestowitz-TR; and so they fail to see what a libility Epstein-stained green paper will entail
13:34 psydruid; will backdoored hardware be outlawed in all societies?
13:35 psydruid; what about smaller semiconductor companies who aren't in on the scheme?
13:44 schestowitz-TR; they will tolerate some
13:45 schestowitz-TR; as long as or until it becomes "unberable" risk to the ruling class
13:45 schestowitz-TR; this is how they also treat the media and WBer
13:47 schestowitz-TR; *unbearable
13:47 schestowitz-TR; secure technologyu means stuff like endless EPO leaks
13:47 schestowitz-TR; which they cannot put an end to
13:47 schestowitz-TR; as they have no bloody clue whoi does what
13:47 schestowitz-TR; and this is why we get loads of material
13:47 schestowitz-TR; andf nobody is ever caught
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13:51 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:51 schestowitz-TR; Well Bill Gates also "Cashed in During COVID", but Pro Publica took bribes from this famous criminal, so no articles in Pro Publica about that https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-island-pinela Well Bill Gates also "Cashed in During COVID", but Pro Publica took bribes from this famous criminal, so no articles in Pro Publica about that https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-
=> ↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-island-pinela
=> ↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-
13:51 schestowitz-TR; island-pinelawn-lockes-pinelawn | Source: Pro Publicawn-lockes-pinelawn | Source: Pro Publica
13:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-island-pinela<techrights-news )
=> ↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-island-pinela<techrights-news
13:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long- )
=> ↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-
13:52 schestowitz-TR; Pro Publica -> No Pubica
13:55 psydruid; it seems most IT jobs are in surveillance companies directly or indirectly these days
13:55 psydruid; and that's called having a career
13:56 schestowitz-TR; that's correct
13:56 schestowitz-TR; not just spying
13:56 schestowitz-TR; military in general;
13:56 schestowitz-TR; I did a one hour video about it a few months ago
13:56 schestowitz-TR; part of a serie
13:56 schestowitz-TR; based on a source who worked in one such company
13:57 schestowitz-TR; I will continue that series some day
13:57 schestowitz-TR; remember how much capital the US regime sink into "defense" each year
13:57 schestowitz-TR; that money ends up in some private companies which offer 6-figure and 7-figure salaeries
13:57 schestowitz-TR; while the nation itself is drowning in debt it can never pay back
14:00 psydruid; you are considered a failure, if you don't go for such a 6-figure or 7-figure salary yourself
14:01 psydruid; because if you don't, other people will and have "great" lives
14:01 psydruid; by selling your soul out to the highest bidder
14:02 schestowitz-TR; yes, but they use the wrong yardstick
14:02 schestowitz-TR; I pity them
14:03 schestowitz-TR; all their work is not theirs
14:03 schestowitz-TR; they're also working very tiring, long hour
14:03 schestowitz-TR; *hours
14:03 schestowitz-TR; Techrights-sec2:
14:03 schestowitz-TR; the all-in-one script for registering a new page has worked flawlessly, I've just had something to test it with
14:03 schestowitz-TR; rianne's laptop is still offline, so she probably focuses on chatting with her widow aunt
14:03 schestowitz-TR; no smell of cooking this afternoon :(
14:03 schestowitz-TR; but she took the cooking book we received to read on the train
14:13 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:19 schestowitz-TR; there is some decent food available, but not much
14:19 schestowitz-TR; when ti runs out I can use cereal, peanuts, and mixed nuts as fallbacks
14:20 schestowitz-TR; but would rather pace down consumption of the "proper" foods, esp. fruit and veg
14:20 schestowitz-TR; I did not eat healthy as a student
14:20 schestowitz-TR; and probably pay for it to this day
14:20 schestowitz-TR; larry lessig used to incorporate into his talks the old story about the
14:20 schestowitz-TR; warning that digital machines would harm the vocal chords
14:20 schestowitz-TR; by discouraging people learning how to sing and use their voice
14:20 schestowitz-TR; to entertain peers
14:20 schestowitz-TR; I think the same is true for cooking now, esp. with processed food
14:20 schestowitz-TR; it's more expensive to bake a cake now than to make a fresh one on one's own
14:20 schestowitz-TR; never mind the cost of time
14:20 schestowitz-TR; and with overworked labour forces that won't improve
14:20 schestowitz-TR; and kids are now educated or raised by gadgets instead of proper parenting
14:20 schestowitz-TR; which is a cascading effects of sorts
14:20 schestowitz-TR; my mom bemoans [redacted] having kids that he does not know how to raised, s
14:20 schestowitz-TR; spends no time with, spends no money on
14:20 schestowitz-TR; and as a part-time working mom who devoted her life to the kids (I was the favourite)
14:20 schestowitz-TR; she finds this inexcsusable that people would turn out like this
14:20 schestowitz-TR; a chain of beating parents are not chains of totally cluelless parents who have
14:20 schestowitz-TR; neither time nor clue about raising kids, so corporations fill up the vacuum
14:20 schestowitz-TR; with Skinner boxes
14:21 schestowitz-TR; preservatives that contain a lot of sodium (iirc) are not good for the gut, but practical [sic] in "fast-moving" "always-on" world
14:34 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:34 Techrights-sec2; yes kids are raised by companies via the gadgets and have many times
14:34 Techrights-sec2; more contact hours per day with the companies' agendas than they do with
14:34 Techrights-sec2; their own peers and family combined. Then if you consider that their peers
14:34 Techrights-sec2; are subjected to the same indoctrination, the effect is even stronger.
14:34 schestowitz-TR; can you chain refresh-site-from-db to update page, please?
14:34 schestowitz-TR; I've just added a second lump of howtos
14:34 schestowitz-TR; and needed to run refresh to apply the changes to the static file (from DB)
14:34 schestowitz-TR; now we can update stuff more rapidly, "UPDATEx[number]" might become common
14:35 schestowitz-TR; I assume that changing the date will help bump it back up to current date
14:35 schestowitz-TR; as the DB scans for current date or rather the script scans the DB based on this kield
14:35 schestowitz-TR; *field
14:35 schestowitz-TR; I don't know what the primary key is, but I assume page ID#, sequential
14:46 Techrights-sec2; refreshed
14:46 Techrights-sec2; btw look at https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Open_Source_Explained.shtml
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Open_Source_Explained.shtml
14:46 Techrights-sec2; with CSS there is no need for a linked image
14:46 Techrights-sec2; I'll add a wrapper script like for the new records
14:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Explained
14:49 schestowitz-TR; in 2020 we rebuilt the front page of TR to contain nothing more than a single HTML file
14:49 schestowitz-TR; and you made your second, fluid version for narrow devices like fonts
14:49 schestowitz-TR; they are still accessed a great deal
14:49 schestowitz-TR; I think that if the new tuxmachines is less than 100kb for each page
14:49 schestowitz-TR; and even linked images are rescaled at the server side (not the browser) it'll make navigation very much better
14:49 schestowitz-TR; at the moment it's easy to move between the last nodes as if they were a photo album
14:49 schestowitz-TR; if later on we add a gemini directory, say /g/
14:49 schestowitz-TR; the images won't be of use anyway, unless they're linked to from the same directory, a local directory, with another protocol
14:50 Techrights-sec2; update-and-refresh-from-db.sh
14:50 Techrights-sec2; it takes a url as an option iif it works
14:52 schestowitz-TR; that script works, yes... and I assume amending the date would act as a "sticky note" for pages that keep updating for days
14:52 schestowitz-TR; to append further links on same topic/theme
14:52 schestowitz-TR; to compact things
14:52 schestowitz-TR; google used to do a decent job at it until around 2011
14:52 schestowitz-TR; Gulag Noise... before the Noise outweighed the signal
14:52 schestowitz-TR; they sabotaged their own "product" (disservice)
14:52 schestowitz-TR; partly for legal reasons, I think
14:55 Techrights-sec2; the date modified gets updated so the updated records will appear in the
14:55 Techrights-sec2; batch of recent posts, but currently that is a fixed number so if it is 11 out
14:55 Techrights-sec2; of 10 allowed it will not show up. The script perhaps ought to be modified
14:55 Techrights-sec2; so that it is n records or m days worth of records, whichever is larger
14:55 schestowitz-TR; I noticed that and thought 10 might be too small, given the "cheapness" of just an itemised list of plain URLs with short text
14:55 schestowitz-TR; those are good from a usability and crawling POV
15:04 Techrights-sec2; yes 10 is too small
15:04 Techrights-sec2; Ok, it;s increased to 15 for now until the OR can be added.
15:04 Techrights-sec2; pushing to Git in a bit
15:04 schestowitz-TR; oh, very nice! 100% css, works in falkon
15:04 schestowitz-TR; librewold (gecko) also
15:04 schestowitz-TR; I'll need to update our temnplates
15:04 schestowitz-TR; rianne's also
15:04 schestowitz-TR; and the script that vomits out that template
15:04 schestowitz-TR; hang on...
15:04 schestowitz-TR; oih, wait
15:04 schestowitz-TR; that would then not work across in the "old" site
15:05 schestowitz-TR; so not yet
15:05 schestowitz-TR; my irc checker has just output 5 new links, so I assume that alkso expanded the scope of the xml file to 15 (from 10)
15:09 Techrights-sec2; yes
15:09 Techrights-sec2; ^ it's increased to 15 for now uintil the OR can be added to the approriate
15:09 Techrights-sec2; script
15:09 schestowitz-TR; coming to think of it, the irc checker can double up as a downtime alerter at a later stage
15:09 schestowitz-TR; for now all the monitoring I have is tmux on cavan
15:09 schestowitz-TR; our gemini capsule is 100% uptime since the major power outage
15:09 schestowitz-TR; I monitor is constantly
15:09 schestowitz-TR; dns needing update it the biggest risk
15:09 schestowitz-TR; *is
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15:15 schestowitz-TR; just checked some of the bash wrappers to perl
15:15 schestowitz-TR; to see if dialog fits (it does not)
15:15 schestowitz-TR; your code is very neatly written and organised
15:15 schestowitz-TR; compared to mine
15:15 schestowitz-TR; but if I put more time/effort into mine, it would improve
15:15 schestowitz-TR; a lot of TM and TR became your force multipliers
15:15 schestowitz-TR; up until 2018 most stuff was manual
15:15 schestowitz-TR; i used dialog to amke some ncurses UIs for rianne
15:15 schestowitz-TR; and that saves her time
15:15 schestowitz-TR; she does not use git, but she now saves files to a repo of shared files, which automates backups
15:15 schestowitz-TR; and makes sharing stuff very simple
15:22 Techrights-sec2; the neatness is actually the quick way to write it
15:22 Techrights-sec2; I'm not sure ncurses would help here but I have no objection to it
15:22 Techrights-sec2; if it can fit into the work flow AND there is insistence on it
15:24 schestowitz-TR; dialogue only comes in hjandy for non free-form text input
15:24 schestowitz-TR; like "select from the following users"
15:24 schestowitz-TR; for tuxmachines it would not add anything
15:24 schestowitz-TR; with the browser I sometimes streamline the postings using multiple tacs
15:24 schestowitz-TR; but the drupal UI is not optimal.. far from it
15:24 schestowitz-TR; *tabs
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15:43 Techrights-sec2; sure the kiwi-irc applet and other clients can be of use there
15:43 Techrights-sec2; there are still permission problems with the way we have Git, some further
15:43 Techrights-sec2; planning is needed to streamline it
15:45 schestowitz-TR; re irc page in new site, should we add the kiwi-irc applet there?
15:45 schestowitz-TR; something similar to "old"?
15:45 schestowitz-TR; I was about to say, if you set up the html file for that page, then I can dump the stuff into it via git
15:45 schestowitz-TR; btw, new pages don't have the favicon stuff in them yet
15:45 schestowitz-TR; so I was guessing you did not pull those changes in to prod.
15:45 schestowitz-TR; I tried last night and was horribly confused
15:47 Techrights-sec2; the IRC page has a placeholder. I'll look at the Favicon stuff now
15:47 Techrights-sec2; (just pushed script changes to Git too)
15:48 schestowitz-TR; did yhou add/push irc template/placeholdder?
15:48 schestowitz-TR; I've pulled, grep'ed "irc" a
15:48 schestowitz-TR; and nothing in git show either
15:48 Techrights-sec2; just made a hardlink from the Icon for favicon.ico
15:48 Techrights-sec2; not yet, I'll add the IRC placeholder
15:59 Techrights-sec2; np
15:59 Techrights-sec2; Git is trouble again, but working on it ...
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16:01 schestowitz-TR; cheers!
16:01 schestowitz-TR; git will be replaced by something that promises to do the same core stuff while keeping it simple
16:01 schestowitz-TR; like sequoia for pgp
16:01 schestowitz-TR; software has this lifecycle that leads to sucking at some stage
16:01 schestowitz-TR; the www reached that point as well
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16:05 Techrights-sec2; ok pushed to Git
16:05 Techrights-sec2; sequoia looks promising
16:05 Techrights-sec2; but it is needed in Thunderbird but Mitchell Baker is killing Thunderbird
16:05 Techrights-sec2; through active neglect and chasing irrelevant goals, perhaps at the behest
16:05 Techrights-sec2; of her paymaster, Google
16:05 Techrights-sec2; yep a poison kitchen
16:05 schestowitz-TR; a baker in Gulag's "poison kitchen"
16:05 schestowitz-TR; let's get rid of rss
16:05 schestowitz-TR; who needs it anyway?
16:05 schestowitz-TR; get rid of xul too
16:05 schestowitz-TR; extensions arend't need, we need ads
16:05 schestowitz-TR; pocket for spying on bookmarks.,.. "DATZ DE SHIT!!"
16:05 schestowitz-TR; pushed irc file
16:05 schestowitz-TR; can you pull/deploy?
16:05 schestowitz-TR; or tell me how to do that most safely?
16:06 Techrights-sec2; tm-generate-feed.pl now does an OR of the sets produced by -d and -n if
16:06 Techrights-sec2; they are both used at the same time;
16:09 Techrights-sec2; I have no idea, the permissions are still a mess
16:09 Techrights-sec2; try from your account
16:09 Techrights-sec2; git commit -m 'relevant commment' irc.shtml
16:09 Techrights-sec2; git push origin HEAD:master
16:09 Techrights-sec2; that might work
16:09 schestowitz-TR; I pushed it OK, I just don't know how to pull in the changes from the server side, even selectively for that file
16:09 schestowitz-TR; I reckon some accounts like tuxmachines
16:09 schestowitz-TR; lack direct access to some of these files
16:09 Techrights-sec2; great
16:09 Techrights-sec2; git pull origin master
16:11 schestowitz-TR; ok, that worked from your end, with some screen sizes itg looks better than with others... testing...
16:11 schestowitz-TR; btw, kiwiirc uses clownflare, but that affects only this one page
16:11 schestowitz-TR; somehax0r told me
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16:14 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:14 schestowitz-TR; Michael Larabel has just changed his profile picture in all Phoronix pages to https://www.phoronix.com/assets/categories/michaellarabel.webp
=> ↺ https://www.phoronix.com/assets/categories/michaellarabel.webp
16:15 Techrights-sec2; he's not looking happy any more, perhaps because of the fallout from selling out
16:15 Techrights-sec2; and what the act of selling out did to him inside
16:16 schestowitz-TR; he gained a lot of weight, but this photo does not show it
16:16 schestowitz-TR; I saw him
16:16 schestowitz-TR; he has a bit of a beer belly
16:16 schestowitz-TR; he used to be very thin
16:19 Techrights-sec2; as well as what it did to his reader base
16:19 Techrights-sec2; I hope his health is ok and that he can recover both physically and morally
16:22 schestowitz-TR; wife lost job
16:22 schestowitz-TR; baby born
16:22 schestowitz-TR; wait, opposite order
16:22 schestowitz-TR; the order matters
16:22 schestowitz-TR; and then power bills up sharply
16:22 schestowitz-TR; and many readers tight with money
16:22 schestowitz-TR; which lwn said caused many casncelations in the wake of covid
16:22 schestowitz-TR; to his credit, he is VERY hard-working
16:22 schestowitz-TR; just no longer as principled
16:23 schestowitz-TR; I think dire straits
16:23 schestowitz-TR; a year or two ago he turned to slashdot.org in search of traffic
16:23 schestowitz-TR; submitting his stgories there, as did SJVN 'fan club' (LF)
16:23 schestowitz-TR; same trajectory as spamnil
16:23 schestowitz-TR; except I cannot accuse Larabel of clickfraud
16:23 schestowitz-TR; which spamnil is not "doping" on
16:23 schestowitz-TR; he must be in a panic
16:23 schestowitz-TR; his guests seeing their viewcount barely exceeds 10 people
16:23 schestowitz-TR; rianne has a thing or two to say about "pretentiousness" of "his" [something racist]
16:24 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:24 Techrights-sec2; the *refresh.sh scripts are updated to do a union of the last two days worth
16:24 Techrights-sec2; of posts OR the last 15 posts, whichever set is larger
16:24 Techrights-sec2; np
16:24 Techrights-sec2; One can hope. Maybe there will be a return to some special posts like the
16:24 Techrights-sec2; reviews or similar
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16:26 schestowitz-TR; excellent, thanks!
16:26 schestowitz-TR; I reckon this site got a shot in the arm for another decade
16:26 schestowitz-TR; and adding gemini will be easy, I have enough experience to add it fast later, once there are .gmi files
16:26 schestowitz-TR; then we can add the git repo, reusing the stuff from TR 'UI'
16:26 schestowitz-TR; wordpress and drupal can be rigid in a number of ways
16:26 schestowitz-TR; with this cms it's a blank sheet
16:26 schestowitz-TR; so all sorts of publication forms are possible
16:26 schestowitz-TR; though I'dnot overdo HTML5
16:26 schestowitz-TR; it would defeat the purpose
16:33 schestowitz; how newswaffle sees it: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//news.tuxmachines.org
=> ↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//news.tuxmachines.org
16:33 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:35 Techrights-sec2; newswaffle seems to work
16:35 schestowitz-TR; the "old" site seems too noisy for it to figure out where the main content is, in either modes
16:36 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines is a site from the php-nuke generation
16:36 schestowitz-TR; where "smart" phone were not a thing yet and certain stuff like web forums was favoured over
16:36 schestowitz-TR; few centralised BS mills like reddit and FB
16:38 schestowitz-TR; Phoronix has just gone offline. Even clownflare cannot reach it. Yes, it outsourced to this malCDN.
16:38 Techrights-sec2; none of this has been exained properly on a mobile device yet
16:40 Techrights-sec2; :(
16:41 schestowitz-TR; it's back now
16:41 schestowitz-TR; but it was def. down for a bit
16:41 schestowitz-TR; phoronix has high revenue demands because it feeds 3 people and many full racks that run at max capacity while biden fist-bumps mr. tandoori oil
16:41 Techrights-sec2; :(
16:41 Techrights-sec2; ack
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17:18 schestowitz-TR; Linux Foundation would have you believe Microsoft (crime) is "community" and GitHub is "Open Source", never mind the brand "Linux" being misused for greenwashing: "Learn more about the OS-Climate community on GitHub." https://www.fosslife.org/os-climate-releases-3-tools-tackling-climate-change
=> ↺ https://www.fosslife.org/os-climate-releases-3-tools-tackling-climate-change
17:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | OS-Climate Releases 3 Tools for Tackling Climate Change
17:23 Techrights-sec2; ack
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18:20 psydroid2; I presume aggi activelow
18:20 psydroid2; he's asking questions in Liberia now
18:21 psydroid2; is*
18:51 britney; "That's crazy man. Have you ever tried DMT?" - Joe Rogan
19:20 schestowitz-TR; potewntial edge case just detected
19:20 schestowitz-TR; scare quote or single quote in headline makes ' in URL
19:20 schestowitz-TR; in some cases it works OK
19:20 schestowitz-TR; with the rss feed, in quiterss, it stops at '
19:20 schestowitz-TR; so maybe needs same treatment as /
19:20 schestowitz-TR; omission
19:20 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: which channel/s?
19:21 Techrights-sec2; can you point to a URL ?
19:21 psydroid2; schestowitz-TR, #linux-sunxi
19:21 psydroid2; his last message was a few hours ago
19:21 psydroid2; I wasn't around myself
19:21 schestowitz-TR; yes, front page under "Security:"
19:22 Techrights-sec2; checking
19:24 Techrights-sec2; The feed is getting constructed correctlky AFAIK. The problem may be with
19:24 Techrights-sec2; QuiteRSS. It is possible to add in an escape for that character though.
19:25 schestowitz-TR; if you add the xml url to quite rss, you will see
19:25 schestowitz-TR; I wonder if some browsers too would struggle
19:25 schestowitz-TR; any sort of quote inside a url can lead to ambiguity
19:25 schestowitz-TR; same for spaces unless %20
19:25 Techrights-sec2; It still validates. I can look at an escape for that char.
19:28 Techrights-sec2; I'm really starting to dislike how git fails to work in a shared environemnt
19:28 Techrights-sec2; it only really safely works when there is one, and only one, account per clone
19:28 Techrights-sec2; or checkout
19:35 schestowitz-TR; i am guessing there was some rolllback as I've just noticed that the irc page isn't there at the moment
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21:11 Techrights-sec2; If I get more frustrated I will wipe Git and start ove, it seems to be losing
21:11 Techrights-sec2; a lot of work the last hours.
21:11 Techrights-sec2; the irc page should still be there
21:11 Techrights-sec2; hmm it's gone
21:11 Techrights-sec2; f*ck git
21:11 Techrights-sec2; I think I have salvaged some of it from memory but now have to find a way to
21:11 Techrights-sec2; get that back /into/ Git yet again
21:11 Techrights-sec2; try QuiteRSS again
21:11 Techrights-sec2; ok I've kind of restored the IRC page
21:11 Techrights-sec2; we'll have to re-look at how to implement the DocumentRoot as a Git clone, later
21:11 Techrights-sec2; For right now, Git is not set up to have multiple accounts editing the same clone
21:11 Techrights-sec2; So as long as the DocumentRoot allows multiple people to work on it, which is
21:11 Techrights-sec2; a good thing, there will be severe trouble shoehorning Git into it;
21:11 Techrights-sec2; More reading / testing is needed offline
21:40 schestowitz-TR; I got your modified version of IRC, edited it some more, merged with the local version I had prior to the loss
21:40 schestowitz-TR; I've not pushed anything yet, I keep the merge (new) file here
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23:10 schestowitz-TR; All-time record today. Techrights Gemini capsule 50k page requests for the day.
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