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00:14 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.it/financialtaxnow/status/1561281406923415552#m
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00:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Wasilios Katsioulis, offline (@financialtaxnow): "Dr. Roy Schestowitz where reporting about those licencerelated crimes within an illegal @CIA Program from 2012 till 2016 but suddenly stopped reporting in december 2016 - also Poisoned? @PreetBharara @IntlCrimCourt @CIA https://twitter.com/schestowilz?s=11&t=whaaksMtfiqFsPPLALuNtg"|nitter.it
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06:18 Techrights-sec; 63e8a40..efad411
06:18 Techrights-sec; see http://news.tuxmachines.org/old//node/21601
=> ↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/old//node/21601
06:18 Techrights-sec; a lot of the old site has been copied already, just the CSS is off
06:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Missing content type. Ignoring.
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07:00 schestowitz-TR2; gm
07:00 schestowitz-TR2; productive night
07:01 schestowitz-TR2; but my alarm failed to work 2 nights in a row
07:01 schestowitz-TR2; no big deal, sleep is healthy
07:01 schestowitz-TR2; I was thinking, if we convert camelcase in "readon" into "title", then adding something similar in gemini should be easy and done
07:01 schestowitz-TR2; in the same loop
07:01 schestowitz-TR2; so though I'm tempted to do this at my end, would take like 2 mins, it would not cover rianne's links
07:01 schestowitz-TR2; last night I checked the image uploader again
07:01 Techrights-sec; gm
07:01 Techrights-sec; yes. still thinking about workflow, however
07:01 Techrights-sec; there are about 1000 hosts missing from the list atm
07:01 Techrights-sec; tm covers a different constellation of sites than tr
07:03 schestowitz-TR2; during that same pass maybe links in <li can also have site name added in some way, maybe like in TR
07:03 schestowitz-TR2; Site name: <A ...
07:03 schestowitz-TR2; it would be effoert-free once set up
07:03 schestowitz-TR2; Even a year ago I was thinking, we miss the opportunity to identify source names like in TR daily links
07:03 schestowitz-TR2; even with the very same links
07:10 Techrights-sec; in the feed-like list?
07:10 Techrights-sec; I'm also thinking that the lists for TR and TM should be maintained separately
07:10 Techrights-sec; since it would be difficult to try to keep the one file synchronized
07:10 Techrights-sec; ok
07:11 schestowitz-TR2; pretty much every single TM link will also be posted in TR
07:11 schestowitz-TR2; but not the other way around
07:11 schestowitz-TR2; so TM is in effect a subset
07:23 schestowitz-TR2; thinking about this, the camelcase list is available over the web/gemini, not just git/ssh
07:23 schestowitz-TR2; so overnight you could have TM updated the latest version of it remaotely
07:23 schestowitz-TR2; I set my side to always fetch and update to the latest before Daily Links batrch gets processed
07:23 Techrights-sec; ack
07:24 schestowitz-TR2; fro the time being tm.org/git:1965 is very very simple and not public
07:24 schestowitz-TR2; but at least there's something basic to work with
07:24 schestowitz-TR2; it has like 5 times fewer files than TR
07:24 schestowitz-TR2; so I flattered the dirs
07:35 Techrights-sec; ack
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08:34 schestowitz-TR2; Two Years Later COVID-19 Has Only Gotten More Infectious and Widespread https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/22/two-years-later-covid-19-has-only-gotten-more-infectious-and-widespread/
08:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Two Years Later COVID-19 Has Only Gotten More Infectious and Widespread
08:35 Techrights-sec; ack
09:11 schestowitz-TR2; if it makes you feel any better (it does make me), people have become extremely cynical about MSM
09:11 schestowitz-TR2; a poll in the US showed how severe this has become
09:11 schestowitz-TR2; and it's not a "wing" thing
09:11 schestowitz-TR2; it's a class thing
09:11 schestowitz-TR2; people recognise who owns large publishera and misuses that ownhership
09:12 Techrights-sec; Cynicism is not enough, it only drives people into social control media where they then become victim to better organized disinformation campaigns
09:13 schestowitz-TR2; after years of "herding" (correct term) the "masses" (like cattle) into social control media I think there's an awakening about its perils too
09:13 Techrights-sec; yes, among some small subset of older adults, but not among younger adults or
09:13 Techrights-sec; youth
09:14 schestowitz-TR2; so this is an area which needs working on
09:14 schestowitz-TR2; we have a lot of new "young blood" in techrights IRC
09:14 schestowitz-TR2; people aged under 18, who use IRC
09:15 schestowitz-TR2; they also use the network for secure private comms
09:15 Techrights-sec; excellent
09:15 Techrights-sec; IRC is not secure in any way, shape, or form
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; ours uses ssl, but they don't use e2ee
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; having said that, they rely on us not snooping on them
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; their isp cannot decipher things afaik
09:16 Techrights-sec; that's not sufficient :(
09:16 Techrights-sec; though it might help
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; of course also no web-based
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; you don't know what the server and/or the js do
09:18 Techrights-sec; all bets are off if it goes through a web browser, the laundry list of
09:18 Techrights-sec; compromised certificates which can be used to MitM the connection is quite
09:18 Techrights-sec; long and the, as you remind, there is javascript
09:20 schestowitz-TR2; some haxor complained that the ssl is done with LE for IRC
09:20 schestowitz-TR2; I get his point
09:20 schestowitz-TR2; aka "techuser"
09:20 schestowitz-TR2; he brought many people his age group to irc
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; ---
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; thanks for improving url.sh, I've copied that to the working dir and tested
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; specifying dimensions is hard
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; when you just do it the quick and dirty
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; not automated
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; way
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; it does help get the page layout correct the first time around, before knowing anything about image in situ
09:35 Techrights-sec; ack
09:35 Techrights-sec; np
09:36 schestowitz-TR2; now, to improve the site, let's add proprietary font
09:36 schestowitz-TR2; 2MB of glyphs
09:36 schestowitz-TR2; for all the unicide and emojis
09:36 schestowitz-TR2; to improve those 200KB pages :-)
09:36 schestowitz-TR2; "web3000"
09:36 Techrights-sec; ack
09:37 schestowitz-TR2;
09:37 schestowitz-TR2; even the EU government sites do this BS
09:38 schestowitz-TR2; and regulators warned them to at least host these fonts locally
09:38 schestowitz-TR2; I don't see why browsers should be in the font business
09:38 schestowitz-TR2; for GIMP, OK... you work in raster space
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09:51 Techrights-sec; Browsers should /not/ be in the typeface business. That is a very old sore
09:51 Techrights-sec; point
09:51 Techrights-sec; The web is for content not layout
09:51 Techrights-sec; constrained layout is anathema to accessibility and, to a certain extent,
09:51 Techrights-sec; usability
09:51 Techrights-sec; The more the end user loses control over the presentation and rendering,
09:51 Techrights-sec; the worse the accessibility and usability.
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; nowadays browsers are also pdf viewers
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; I never understoof why firefox wished to maintain a whole pdf engine inside their binaries
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; security aspects aside
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; there are also additional libs you need at runtime
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; then there's the whole video playback mode (like outside the browser)
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; thatg's like mplayer
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; I was about to type earlier (but did not) that in education they need to introduce some penalties for students who extend and extend software to
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; the point where the extensions cannot justidy the cost
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; a lot of projkects die this way
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; Flash use to run ok on a few megabytes or ram and most cpu
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; in the early shockwave days too
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; mid 90s
09:55 schestowitz-TR2; modest single-code cpu and *few MBss OF RAM.
09:55 schestowitz-TR2; *core
09:57 Techrights-sec; yes, that is also inappropriate so is using the browse as a VM
09:57 Techrights-sec; ack
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; wget drupal/org ... downloads ... x.x.zip | unzip ... | cd x.x. | ls -la | wc -l
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; how many is that by now, not even counting any extensions?
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; without them, not much functionality is even available
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; and verison x+1.x will break compatibility
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes the schema too becomes obsolete
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; within a few years
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; you cannot run sites for 20 years llike this
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; susan moaned that each "upgrade" in drupal was like starting all over again
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; because old things were no longer compatible
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; also, there's no upgrade route, esp. not if you leap 2 versions at a time
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; like 6->8
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; 9 is already out, I think
10:01 schestowitz-TR2; wordpress is at 6.0.x now (like Linux this autumn
10:01 schestowitz-TR2; in my sites I never even touched 4.x
10:01 schestowitz-TR2; 3.9.x has LTS status
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; a mantra I always loved: "NEWER IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER"
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; it's newer
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; better? subjective
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; my sister struggled a lot after being pushed to move from Debian 10 to 11
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; I told her to keep resisting
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; she managed for about 6 months
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; the "upgrade" meant a lot of things she was accustomed to no longer workjed
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; not necessarily Debian's faulyt
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; but "third parties"
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; they keep using "security" to compel endless upgrade
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; instead they should study how to improve security and harden/lock down stuff
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; cURL's (GitHub) Daniel has just mentioned the many CVEs
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; a blog post from this morning
10:04 schestowitz-TR2; I wonder how many of these are due to feature-churn systemd-style
10:08 mjg59_; Step one to reduce the need to update software because of security issues is to stop writing things in C
10:13 Techrights-sec; haven't checked at that level of detail there
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; the new matilda as dead as assange
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; not officially, but mia
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; among other such sites
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; thediossenter for example
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; lots of wikileaks-themed sites died
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; not much left to write
10:14 Techrights-sec; :(
10:14 Techrights-sec; it was good while it lasted
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; now we have cnn "journalism" about "sales" in chipotle
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; you may seen i today's irc logs
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; *in
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; the ads became "news"
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; and "news" became censored
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; i asked eff why no coverage on epo
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; now that we have leaks about their swpats strategt
10:16 Techrights-sec; not yet
10:16 Techrights-sec; yes that has been a growing trend
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; I will chase again later
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; we basically became china
10:16 schestowitz-TR2; just not by name
10:24 Techrights-sec; in practice
10:24 Techrights-sec; I hope the EFF can be persuaded to resume coverage of and fights against
10:24 Techrights-sec; software patents
10:24 Techrights-sec; It looks like a matter of misplaced priorities and poor or absent long term
10:24 Techrights-sec; strategies
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; seems to be a business-minded strategy
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; like LF
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; not barking up the "wrong" trees
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; instead reaching out for low-hanging fruit on the branch
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; like women's rights
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; women are impacted by tech issues
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; but tech issues are not gendered or race-related
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; tech in general harms society if misused
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; painting their activism as protecting the vulnerable MINORITIES and WOMEN means they add another layer of division
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; where none was needed
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; you now see dumb techdirt doing trump this trump that
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; as if certain tech issues are a trump thing
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; or ssociating stuff like proprietary voting machines with "election deniers"
10:27 schestowitz-TR2; or protecting GAFAM from "republicans"
10:28 Techrights-sec; aka a sellingo-out strategy
10:28 Techrights-sec; an sw patents too
10:28 Techrights-sec; from here it looks like the race and gender issues are being used as a
10:28 Techrights-sec; distraction to prevent criticism for having veered off track from more serious
10:28 Techrights-sec; goals
10:28 Techrights-sec; ALL > MOST > MANY > SOME > A FEW
10:28 Techrights-sec; if trump were to accidently leak some gas that made a sound similar to
10:28 Techrights-sec; a position on software patents, there are two significant populations which
10:28 Techrights-sec; would dig in around that. One for, one against, and completely ignore any
10:28 Techrights-sec; facts or data. For them, the issues exist only as political footballs and
10:28 Techrights-sec; not as problems to solve or goals to acheive.
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; the british championed these strategies
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; but likely did not pioneered them
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; even a child could come up with it
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; no need for a bernays or a stalin
10:35 Techrights-sec; ack
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; curious all those articles so suddenlt ybaout water leaks in the UK
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; see?
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; it's not an overpop[ulation issue
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; blame the pipes
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; there's enougbh water
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; enough rain
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; the gardens don't need watering MORE
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; it's the pipes
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; also, maybe instead of making pipes for bombs we should install newers pipes underground
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; but this blame-shifting annoys me a great deal
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; why ALL OF A SUDDENT they worry about pipe leaks?
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; I hear the same in other countries
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; pipe leake pipe leaks
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; if there were just 5 milllion people in england it would hardly even matter
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; and gardens were not yellowing due to a scortching hear
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; heat
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; with people desperate to save their plants
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; one strange measure I saw hours ago was,
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; the leaked water could water like 5 BILLION gardens.... fro 15 MINUTES
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; what a bizarre measure
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; why 15 minutes
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; expand to 24 hours
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; and then the number does not seem as big
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; I smell a rat, and while SOME of the media says "climate" nobody talks about overpopulation, overconsumption
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; hrights-news> PATHETIC: our government outsourced "Excess mortality in England analysis" to criminals (Microsoft) from another continent and it is proprietary. Are moles in government responsible for this? https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-and-english-regions
=> ↺ https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-and-english-regions
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Excess mortality in England and English regions - GOV.UK
11:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Excess mortality in England and English regions - GOV.UK
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; It has now been a month and a half since this WEEKLY thing was last updated. They stopped publishing where there was a SURGE in COVID-19-linked deaths. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022
=> ↺ https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Weekly all-cause mortality surveillance: 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK
11:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Weekly all-cause mortality surveillance: 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; is it OK to link to the git part of gemini.tm? afaik, there are no sensitive things like keys in there
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; it updates routinely on its own, using cron job in root and gemini
11:13 Techrights-sec; overconsumption and overpopulation are exacerbated by the climate crisis
11:13 Techrights-sec; pakistan and nigeria are some of the worst examples, though indonesia is catching up
11:13 Techrights-sec; most of the middle east vastly exceeded its carrying capacity decades ago
11:13 Techrights-sec; the petrochemical money is only delaying their collapse and worsening it
11:13 Techrights-sec; when it does happen
11:35 schestowitz-TR2; to see what happens:
11:35 schestowitz-TR2; crontab -l -u root
11:35 schestowitz-TR2; and crontab -l -u gemini
11:35 schestowitz-TR2; gemini does not directly interact with git
11:35 schestowitz-TR2; as you said multi-tenanted git users on the same machine leads to chaos
11:47 Techrights-sec; checking
11:47 Techrights-sec; why is list-git-files.sh root only?
11:47 Techrights-sec; It could run as gemini:gemtext no proble AFAIK
11:47 Techrights-sec; root should not run stuff out of /var/www/tuxmachines.org/bin/
11:47 Techrights-sec; so I would suggest 1) running it out of /usr/local/bin and 2) run it as gemini
11:48 schestowitz-TR2; yes, I figured you'd shuffle these around a bit
11:48 schestowitz-TR2; as root is not needed for webadmin-level stuff
11:48 schestowitz-TR2; the cron job too can be moved
12:21 Techrights-sec; ok
12:23 schestowitz-TR2; copycats of TM existed ages ago
12:23 schestowitz-TR2; they lack the capacity and tooling
12:23 schestowitz-TR2; so they cannot 'compete'
12:23 schestowitz-TR2; with drupal at the door we can actually improve tooling
12:25 schestowitz-TR2; Bringing the BLOAT of WWW to your desktop. Dumb idea. You end up like "phones" that now need 4 cores to do something similar, and which needs a recharge every few hours. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk4/+bug/1949299 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994944
=> ↺ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk4/+bug/1949299
=> ↺ https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994944
12:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1949299 gtk4-broadwayd missing in libgtk-4-bin 4.4 (impish... : Bugs : gtk4 package : Ubuntu
12:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bugs.debian.org | #994944 - libgtk-4-bin: gtk4-broadwayd not available - Debian Bug report logs
12:43 Techrights-sec; ack
12:43 Techrights-sec; It's moved to /usr/local/bin now; I suppose it should be checked into Git
12:43 Techrights-sec; eventually.
12:45 schestowitz-TR2; thank you, excellent stuff
12:45 schestowitz-TR2; I just wanted to get some sort of proof of concept in place
12:45 schestowitz-TR2; like I said last night, busybox implementation of find meant
12:45 schestowitz-TR2; I had to change the steps a bit
12:45 schestowitz-TR2; I wonder if this find program will make it hard to cull directories for particular days when there are archives
12:45 schestowitz-TR2; it's a very crude and simplistic (incomplete) program
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13:12 schestowitz-TR2; Hiding the Reports to Hide the Bodies (That 'Pile Up High') https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/22/piling-up-high/
=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/22/piling-up-high/
13:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Hiding the Reports to Hide the Bodies (That Pile Up High)
13:28 Techrights-sec; ack
14:50 schestowitz-TR2; draft
14:50 schestowitz-TR2; could not help myself
14:51 schestowitz-TR2; he's upping the doses
14:51 schestowitz-TR2; nmever mind, finalising
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14:58 Techrights-sec; ack
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16:10 schestowitz-TR2; draft
16:10 schestowitz-TR2; ops, wrong image
16:10 schestowitz-TR2; wait..
16:10 Techrights-sec; checking
16:10 Techrights-sec; just noticed, the caption does not match the graphic
16:10 Techrights-sec; the rate of change is as important as the current ratio
16:11 schestowitz-TR2; corrtected images
16:11 schestowitz-TR2; you can download the data as csv from the link given there, then use libreoffice calc for extrapolations
16:11 schestowitz-TR2; I'm not that good at calc
16:11 schestowitz-TR2; took me a while to find just a way to sort by column, numerically...
16:12 Techrights-sec; ok checking
16:12 Techrights-sec; do you have the link handy?
16:13 schestowitz__[TR]; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/russian-federation/#monthly-202202-202208
=> ↺ https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/russian-federation/#monthly-202202-202208
16:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Russian Federation | Statcounter Global Stats
16:13 schestowitz__[TR]; Download date (URL)
16:13 schestowitz-TR2; *data
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16:22 Techrights-sec; thanks
16:22 Techrights-sec; for the last six months, it has been declining at about 1.3% per month, but
16:22 Techrights-sec; picking up speed
16:23 Techrights-sec; s/at about/at a rate of about/
16:23 Techrights-sec; OS X is approximately stable, iOS is growing ever so slightly and Android
16:23 Techrights-sec; growing a bit more
16:23 Techrights-sec; s/more/faster/
16:23 Techrights-sec; Plain GNU/Linux is more or less stable
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; I've meanwhile added two more paragraphs
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; I find spreadsheet software GUIs a bit overwhelming
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; for some functionality
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; rianne has the same issue
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; you know what you want but not how to do it
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; can the curve fitting simulate trends based on some mathematical models?
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; I guess not
16:29 Techrights-sec; R is better for stats than LibreOffice, for the most part but more complex
16:29 Techrights-sec; and with only six data points, there is not much enough to estimate a larger
16:29 Techrights-sec; trend
16:30 schestowitz-TR2; politics is a special factor too
16:30 schestowitz-TR2; and we don't know what happens next year
16:32 schestowitz-TR2; less market share
16:32 schestowitz-TR2; lower budget
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; fewer stuff
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; lower bribes
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; competing mole
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; go back to top (less market share)
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; death spiral
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; /s stuff/ staff/
16:33 Techrights-sec; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/russian-federation#monthly-202108-202208
=> ↺ https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/russian-federation#monthly-202108-202208
16:33 Techrights-sec; going back a year the rate of decline was slower. so as mentioned the
16:33 Techrights-sec; decline is accelrating
16:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Russian Federation | Statcounter Global Stats
16:35 schestowitz-TR2; if they announce vista 12, 13, 14 every summer
16:35 schestowitz-TR2; it'll kill them
16:35 schestowitz-TR2; too many builds/codebases to maintain
16:35 schestowitz-TR2; assurance of low quality
16:35 schestowitz-TR2; I posted links to that effect this morning
16:35 schestowitz-TR2; edge is also not sustainable
16:35 Techrights-sec; people are used to the low quality and tolerate it getting worse with each
16:35 Techrights-sec; new release
16:35 Techrights-sec; edge is just a repackaging of chromium with some proprietary M$-only additions
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; thought: the unfortunate side effect of oem strangelehold is,
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; people come to think of "phones" as stable
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; and abandon the desktop altogether
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; macs are too expensive
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; chromos is too limiting... tor clown OS
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; soo instead of exploring desktops that run OK for 300 days
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; they move to skinnerboxes
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; from one trap to another
16:37 schestowitz-TR2; s/tor/toy/
17:04 psydroid2; vista 12, 13, 14 etc.
17:04 psydroid2; none of them will get any adoption
17:04 psydroid2; people are reluctant to even move to vista 11
17:13 schestowitz-TR2; right
17:13 schestowitz-TR2; there's an issue
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; they killed the hype
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; of new OS
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; now they just called service packs "new OS"
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; and nobody gets excited
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; it's like beta testing
17:14 Techrights-sec; phones are being pushed from several directions and have the unfortunate
17:14 Techrights-sec; characteristic of being far less secure than even M$ products
17:14 Techrights-sec; then on top of that you have both the phone UI and the "apps" it runs
17:14 Techrights-sec; acting as skinner boxes
17:15 schestowitz-TR2; draft
17:15 schestowitz-TR2; summary intentionally blank
18:21 schestowitz-TR2; Spent a long time search in vain for any data on gitlab and github losing/gaining market share as chart. You'd think with all that "fake" "media" out there someone would have researched this already, but there seem to be no comparative measurements at all. They all fake it. PR and secret data to secure the PR.
18:21 schestowitz-TR2; There is hardly tech media anymore. PR and marketing operations that call themselves "media companies" aren't media companies but advertisers, sellouts. They literally lie, even intentionally, for companies and orgs.
18:21 schestowitz-TR2; (NEW): Mozilla Firefox 104 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Mozilla_Firefox_104_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Mozilla_Firefox_104_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.gmi
=> ↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Mozilla_Firefox_104_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.shtml
=> ↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Mozilla_Firefox_104_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.gmi
18:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Mozilla Firefox 104 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New
18:21 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Mozilla Firefox 104 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New
18:21 schestowitz-TR2; Even when you give the media breaking stories or exclusive info these days they turn it down because "it's a lot of work"; more then rewriting press releases (lies)...
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18:21 schestowitz-TR2; Today's media isn't just ignoring the corruption or enabling it. It's part of it, it's an active participant.
18:21 schestowitz-TR2; new narratives: you are a bigot supporting trump if you moan about the corrupt media; you are a bigot supporting trump if you moan about the proprietary back-doored voting machines; you are a antivaxxer for moaning about Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein etc. They take legitimate problems end try to associate the critics with extremism.
19:01 schestowitz-TR2; (re raspi:)
19:01 schestowitz-TR2; is that still going on, not just in reddit?
19:01 schestowitz-TR2; you can tell them and give links showing that Microsoft commits serious crimes all around thr world
19:01 schestowitz-TR2; and it's inane for raspi to then give Microsoft control over clients' products, more so without telling them
19:01 schestowitz-TR2; no consent
19:01 schestowitz-TR2; but afaik that waas 18 months ago
19:01 schestowitz-TR2; and I saw nothing that suggests they still do that
19:01 schestowitz-TR2; hopefully had enough impact to deter
19:13 schestowitz-TR2; ---
19:13 schestowitz-TR2; protecting criminals from critics se4emas like a tenet of coc
19:19 schestowitz-TR2; I hope we have decent offsite backups of TM and TR
19:19 schestowitz-TR2; not because of technial issues, the disk is not OK, FS also
19:19 schestowitz-TR2; but we made a lot of changes not at the level of DB
19:19 Techrights-sec; ack
19:30 starstreak; schestowitz-TR2, who are you talking to?
19:30 starstreak; it looks like you're having a conversation with yourself
19:31 schestowitz-TR2; no, it's sort of internal discussion
19:31 schestowitz-TR2; but released here for transparency, too
19:31 starstreak; fair enough
19:31 starstreak; it was making me think that you had other people running your bots
19:32 schestowitz-TR2; the irc bots are manually operated
19:32 schestowitz-TR2; by me
19:33 schestowitz-TR2; development and sysadmin is done by several people
19:36 starstreak; good to know
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