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07:26 schestowitz-TR; "From what I've seen, it's a pretty common belief across Geminispace and Gopherspace that social media is not healthy or good for people. I agree, and I've decided to write a little bit about my experience with social media." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1657427715
=> ↺ gemini://eph.smol.pub/1657427715
07:47 Techrights-sec; https://nitter.net/brau_ner/status/1545021335440687104
=> ↺ https://nitter.net/brau_ner/status/1545021335440687104
07:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.net | Christian Brauner (@brau_ner): "After a long long time just talking about how to make this happen @pid_eins and I are finally on the same team. Very excited about having @blucaz around as well and we have another hire dear to my heart hopefully coming on board later this year."|nitter
07:51 schestowitz-TR; this confirmed it, but what is the significance?
07:52 schestowitz-TR; I mean, OK, let me put it like this:
07:52 schestowitz-TR; in irc I asked, what's the background story
07:52 schestowitz-TR; , did he leave,
07:52 schestowitz-TR; was he pushed?
07:52 schestowitz-TR; what is the plan?
07:52 schestowitz-TR; very few details
07:52 schestowitz-TR; those details do matter
07:52 schestowitz-TR; and phoronix was just a bunch of microsoft platitudes
07:52 schestowitz-TR; no substance
07:52 schestowitz-TR; the only new thing was his headline
07:52 schestowitz-TR; I've decided to release the post about career in my PERSONAL bloga
07:52 schestowitz-TR; and then post a lot of chaff to 'hide' it from 'Amish' colleagues
07:52 schestowitz-TR; who will probably never see it, just as they don't know what IRC is
07:52 Techrights-sec; https://nitter.net/brau_ner/status/1545021335440687104
=> ↺ https://nitter.net/brau_ner/status/1545021335440687104
07:52 Techrights-sec; that's also affecting LXC / LXD
07:52 Techrights-sec; yes there are no details about what is going on; they seem to be holding
07:52 Techrights-sec; their cards close to their chest as far as that goes, for now;
07:52 Techrights-sec; the ad hominems against anyone displeased with systemd are increasing though
07:53 schestowitz-TR; I just call it Microsoft systemd
07:53 schestowitz-TR; and that alone can help put people off
07:53 schestowitz-TR; I keep getting insulted for not condemning it strongly ENOUGH
07:53 schestowitz-TR; (you know by who)
07:54 Techrights-sec; ack
07:54 Techrights-sec; one of the reasons it got any traction at all was they were very effective
07:54 Techrights-sec; at brigading any who failed to toe the line; that applied not just to verbal
07:54 Techrights-sec; attacks online but in ostracizing people within project and sometimes even
07:54 Techrights-sec; getting them kicked out or forced to quit
07:55 schestowitz-TR; referring to themselves as "team"
07:55 schestowitz-TR; not cult
07:55 schestowitz-TR; in twitter I also got called names for questioning systemd
07:55 schestowitz-TR; or bemoaning bugs
07:55 schestowitz-TR; or saying it was breaking things for me personally
07:55 schestowitz-TR; woirds like "neckbeards"
07:58 Techrights-sec; (btw GNOME is getting a big handout from M$)
07:58 Techrights-sec; m$ definitely is a cult
07:58 Techrights-sec; yes, that in twitter was part of the ongoing brigading; anything other than
07:58 Techrights-sec; praise for systemd resulted in piling onto the writer with lots and lots
07:58 Techrights-sec; of personal attacks, so as to completely dodge the technical aspects and
07:58 Techrights-sec; to derail any technical discussion immediately
07:58 Techrights-sec; all systemd has going for it, and all it ever had going for it, was the
07:58 Techrights-sec; coordinated ad hominem attacks and the appeal to novely fallacy
07:58 Techrights-sec; Upstart was an init system. systemd was not and is not an init system
07:58 Techrights-sec; but as we see now, it is only about a power grab
07:59 schestowitz-TR; decom-d
07:59 schestowitz-TR; maybe that's what the d stands for
07:59 schestowitz-TR; anyway, with the LP move the debates will change
07:59 schestowitz-TR; and ad hom will be far less effective
08:00 Techrights-sec; the debates must change now, but so far only a few distros are in any sort
08:00 Techrights-sec; of a good position and even they are a bit weak due to the amount of
08:00 Techrights-sec; effort which must be wasted to clean packages from gratuitous systemd dependencies
08:00 Techrights-sec; x https://github.com/microsoft/foss-fund
=> ↺ https://github.com/microsoft/foss-fund
08:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-GitHub - microsoft/foss-fund: The Microsoft FOSS Fund provides a direct way for Microsoft engineers to participate in the nomination and selection process to help communities and projects they are passionate about. The FOSS Fund provides $10,000 sponsorships to open source projects as selected by Microsoft employees.
08:01 schestowitz-TR; "Then they fight you" < - we are here
08:01 schestowitz-TR; we need just a few distros to remove systemd
08:01 schestowitz-TR; and then others can branch off them
08:01 schestowitz-TR; maybe now these efforts will be boosted
08:01 schestowitz-TR; or maybe BSDs will gain a bit
08:01 schestowitz-TR; but BSDs too are under attack from Microsoft
08:01 schestowitz-TR; the same attacks as those against Linux
08:01 schestowitz-TR; starting with bribes into key orgs
08:05 Techrights-sec; true but it is more complex than that, systemd is not just one thing
08:05 Techrights-sec; and distros are comprised of packages and the fight is now at the package
08:05 Techrights-sec; maintainer level;
08:05 Techrights-sec; Debian is a key organization and has been broken and, AFIAK, quite infiltrated
08:05 Techrights-sec; Upon it hang hundreds of derivative distros, both directly and indirectly
08:05 schestowitz-TR; same as tor, which now puts microsoft in the tor browse, after taking microsoft money (DDG)
08:05 schestowitz-TR; debian took MS money via SPI for several years
08:05 Techrights-sec; If the Tor Project is taking dodgy money they ought to approach Brave instead
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08:23 Techrights-sec; https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55103-lennart-poettering-quits-red-hat
=> ↺ https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55103-lennart-poettering-quits-red-hat
08:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fudzilla.com | Lennart Poettering quits Red Hat
08:23 schestowitz; I put that in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166960#comment-34284 yesterday
=> ↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166960#comment-34284
08:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Still Attacking From the Inside | Tux Machines
08:25 Techrights-sec; ack
08:25 schestowitz-TR; Entering Phase Two of Life https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/phase-two-of-life/
=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/phase-two-of-life/
08:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Entering Phase Two of Life
08:25 schestowitz-TR; now I will add some chaff
08:25 schestowitz-TR; for the Amish not to notice, just to be sure...
08:30 Techrights-sec; checking
08:30 Techrights-sec; otr: biden promoting terrorism and intolerance: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3551155-bidens-wish-muslims-celebrating-eid-al-adha-a-joyous-holiday/
08:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehill.com | Bidens wish Muslims celebrating Eid al-Adha a joyous holiday | The Hill
08:31 schestowitz-TR; I thought it would be a link about him bailing out Microsoft again :-)
08:31 schestowitz-TR; anyway, remember what the lectures of lessig say about "lean to the green"
08:31 schestowitz-TR; it's not about morality but about money/oil... and oil, did I mention oil?
08:31 schestowitz-TR; Oil is Freedom(TM)
08:33 schestowitz-TR; ----
08:34 schestowitz-TR; re the above, I'm not allowed to speak >TO COLLEAGUES< about it, except spouse
08:34 schestowitz-TR; but my blog is not colleagues
08:34 schestowitz-TR; I don't think separating people and gagging them is moral
08:34 schestowitz-TR; it's like an anti-union tactic, akin to NDA
08:34 schestowitz-TR; obv. part of HR's trick
08:34 schestowitz-TR; they advice how to avoid paying severence fees
08:34 schestowitz-TR; hence I sniffed around a bit
08:34 schestowitz-TR; so far nobody has fallen for the honey traps
08:34 schestowitz-TR; I once dated a girl who was put on garden leave
08:34 schestowitz-TR; I cannot recall the reasons
08:35 Techrights-sec; interesting constraint, is it an enforceable constrait / legal or is it a lie
08:35 Techrights-sec; they tell ?
08:35 Techrights-sec; HR is an opponent; they are there to protect the company against the employees
08:35 Techrights-sec; it's like an anti-union: coordinated defense and even attacks against the
08:35 Techrights-sec; workers
08:36 schestowitz-TR; it is worth them the money if you consider how much severence is at stake
08:36 schestowitz-TR; I play my cards carefully here, with words
08:36 schestowitz-TR; I will add chaff soon
08:40 Techrights-sec; ack
08:50 schestowitz-TR; thanks for the advice on this
08:50 schestowitz-TR; I think I'm done frnakly
08:50 schestowitz-TR; rms resigned aged 30 at mit
08:50 schestowitz-TR; for me it'll be 40
08:50 Techrights-sec; np
08:50 schestowitz-TR; time to do my own projects, maybe overdue, too
08:50 schestowitz-TR; (job lost the element of pride last year, 2 years after the bullying)
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09:02 schestowitz-TR; NHS Breaking Its Promise in Order to Help COVID-19 Spread While Were Blindfolded https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/nhs-numbers-4pm-next-week-but-never-mind/
=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/nhs-numbers-4pm-next-week-but-never-mind/
09:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS Breaking Its Promise in Order to Help COVID-19 Spread While Were Blindfolded
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10:05 schestowitz-TR; two more posts and the sensitive one is below front page threshold
10:05 schestowitz-TR; after that daily links, cleaning all rss feeds, rianne hair dye
10:05 schestowitz-TR; I already feel a lot more liberated
10:06 schestowitz-TR; even if I still work full time
10:06 schestowitz-TR; maybe till sept.
10:06 schestowitz-TR; with the departing gift i think we can reach 55 ok, then use pensions
10:06 schestowitz-TR; no kids
10:06 Techrights-sec; ack
10:06 Techrights-sec; the one post is just a chart
10:06 schestowitz-TR; the goal of thes eposts is chaff/flak
10:09 schestowitz-TR; kids cost increased 10% or so this past year
10:09 schestowitz-TR; iirc, food and energy are consumed more by teens thasn grown-ups
10:09 schestowitz-TR; esp. boys, for food
10:09 schestowitz-TR; my mom used to joke(ish) about how much feeding me had cost
10:09 schestowitz-TR; growing kids consume more than adults
10:10 Techrights-sec; ack
10:11 schestowitz-TR; babies are most expensive to feed
10:11 schestowitz-TR; it's a cartel
10:11 schestowitz-TR; the otheer dat at m and s i saw all the baby clothes and shoes
10:11 schestowitz-TR; 10 times less material
10:12 schestowitz-TR; same price
10:12 schestowitz-TR; pricefixing
10:12 schestowitz-TR; "if you love yo babbbbbbbyyyyy"
10:29 schestowitz-TR; that's it, it's in page 2 now
10:29 schestowitz-TR; moving on to daily links now
10:43 schestowitz-TR; England Swings Back to Excess Deaths (Exceedingly High Mortality Rates in Summertime) With COVID-19 Surge https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/covid-19-summer-exceeding-normal-mortality/
=> ↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/10/covid-19-summer-exceeding-normal-mortality/
10:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive England Swings Back to Excess Deaths (Exceedingly High Mortality Rates in Summertime) With COVID-19 Surge
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10:55 schestowitz-TR; eugenics, culling, survivasl of the strong
10:55 schestowitz-TR; poor old people, almolst 200k of them, who do not enjoy pension anymore
10:55 schestowitz-TR; 90%+ of them are pension age
10:55 schestowitz-TR; they are a "burden" on "the capitalism"
10:55 schestowitz-TR; "dude, want a seventh jab?"
10:55 schestowitz-TR; "no jab, no job"
10:55 schestowitz-TR; pensioner: i finished doing jobs after 45 years
10:55 schestowitz-TR; capitalism eats its own, the ones who spent the most building the capital
10:55 schestowitz-TR; I am not accepting this
10:55 schestowitz-TR; in usa, champion of unbridlod capitalism, they cherish embroyos and fetuses 3 weeks old more
10:55 schestowitz-TR; than they value war vetarans etc.
10:55 schestowitz-TR; so that dispells this notion that the gov. exists to guard human life
10:55 Techrights-sec; ack
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; "Truth: government exists to protect life and liberty. But the lie embraced was government is willing to kill everyone because: better dead than red." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/08/time-for-a-convention-of-the-people-by-the-people-and-for-the-people/ | Source: Counter Punch
10:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Time for a Convention of the People, by the People and for the People - CounterPunch.org
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; "Truth: government exists to protect life and liberty. But the lie embraced was government is willing to kill everyone because: better dead than red." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/08/time-for-a-convention-of-the-people-by-the-people-and-for-the-people/ | Source: Counter Punch
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; "Raped by My Father" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/4/michele_goodwin_abortion_saved_my_life | Source: Democracy No
=> ↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/4/michele_goodwin_abortion_saved_my_life
10:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | I Was Raped by My Father. Abortion Saved My Life: Prof. Michele Goodwin on SCOTUS & the New Jane Crow | Democracy Now!
10:59 schestowitz-TR; the gov. exists to protect capital and "private property"
10:59 schestowitz-TR; remember thaty and there will be less disappointment ;-)
10:59 schestowitz-TR; WTO, EPO, Microsoft bailed out...
10:59 Techrights-sec; ack
10:59 Techrights-sec; the interest is lost the moment they get born
11:00 Techrights-sec; and diminishes by the day ever after from that point onward
11:00 schestowitz-TR; baby dies: woman arrested
11:00 schestowitz-TR; pupil dies: thoughts and prayers ;-)
11:09 schestowitz;
11:09 schestowitz; How to Install Flask with Nginx and Gunicorn on Ubuntu 22.04
=> How">↺ https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-flask-with-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-22-04/">How
11:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.howtoforge.com | How to Install Flask with Nginx and Gunicorn on Ubuntu 22.04
11:09 schestowitz;
11:09 schestowitz; Flask is a microframework written in Python for developing modern web applications and API (Application Programming Interface). It's based on the Werkzeug toolkit and Jinja2 template. Instead of using complex architecture, Flask is a small web framework that easy-to-extent the core and easy to learn because Flask has less code. Flask doesn't include the ORM, but still has cool features like URL routing
11:09 schestowitz; and template engine.
11:09 schestowitz;
11:09 schestowitz;
11:10 schestowitz;
11:10 schestowitz; This small Space Invaders game runs on an Arduino Nano with a salvaged CRT display
11:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.arduino.cc | This small Space Invaders game runs on an Arduino Nano with a salvaged CRT display | Arduino Blog
11:10 schestowitz;
11:10 schestowitz; Rob Cai over on Instructables has created his own version of the classic video game Space Invaders using an Arduino Nano. However, unlike most other projects that would typically incorporate some kind of LCD or OLED screen, he chose to use a small black and white cathode ray tube (CRT) display recovered from an old video intercom system.
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11:10 schestowitz;
11:10 schestowitz;
11:12 schestowitz;
11:12 schestowitz; Kubuntu upgrade - from 21.10 to 22.04 - Smooth as silk
=> Kubuntu">↺ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kubuntu-impish-jammy-upgrade.html">Kubuntu
11:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.dedoimedo.com | Kubuntu upgrade - from 21.10 to 22.04 - Smooth as silk
11:12 schestowitz;
11:12 schestowitz; Operating system upgrades are not a fun activity. Like the annual tax report, or mandatory HR training, you want them done as quickly and smoothly as possible. Over the years, I've found myself mustering less and less patience for everything software, and look at any major system change with a considerable amount of dread. Not the fear that I won't be able to resolve it, but the knowledge that I simply
11:12 schestowitz; don't have the desire to play with unnecessary things.
11:12 schestowitz; On the Linux side of the pond, surprisingly, system upgrades have been relatively smooth. Still, they weren't always perfect. Well, today we need to see how things have changed since my last attempt, on the elderly Vivobook. My guinea pig will be the newish test system, an IdeaPad with its Ryzen processor and NVMe storage, which I use for Linux distro explorations and disappointments. The box runs a
11:12 schestowitz; triple-boot setup, including one Kubuntu 21.10. And now, we shall nudge that instance to the latest LTS. Begin to commence.
11:12 schestowitz;
11:12 schestowitz;
11:16 schestowitz-TR; closest-to-truth analogy I can think of right now is bridge of cliff
11:16 schestowitz-TR; and lots of fools followwing the crowd
11:16 schestowitz-TR; assuming crowded places mean safety
11:16 schestowitz-TR; I studied these issues and don't read BillBC (vaccine sales site)
11:17 Techrights-sec; ack
11:31 schestowitz-TR; billbc is not antivaxx
11:31 schestowitz-TR; but it sells the idea that boosters are magic serum
11:31 schestowitz-TR; today i work while standing
11:31 schestowitz-TR; walking in and out the door to the sun outside
11:31 schestowitz-TR; soon cider
11:31 schestowitz-TR; buttefly outside just now
11:31 schestowitz-TR; same problem here
11:31 schestowitz-TR; yellowing
11:31 schestowitz-TR; 2018 was worse
11:32 schestowitz-TR; many animals were dying
11:32 schestowitz-TR; grass was dying entirely at some edges
11:32 schestowitz-TR; if it gets warm due to heating, we'll turn up the A/C (cycle)
11:32 schestowitz-TR; if we lack rainfall, we'll turn on the taps more to feed flora and fauna
11:32 schestowitz-TR; overpopulation is an inflection point thing
11:32 schestowitz-TR; it is worsened further by its own effects
11:32 schestowitz-TR; rianne and i practice frugality even while earning 3000 net per month
11:32 schestowitz-TR; we opened libre office the other night in bed, put in all the monthly expenses
11:32 schestowitz-TR; adds up to not much at all
11:32 schestowitz-TR; even after hyperinflation
11:32 schestowitz-TR; food is about 50 per head per month
11:32 schestowitz-TR; inc. alcohol
11:32 Techrights-sec; until today
11:32 Techrights-sec; ack
11:32 Techrights-sec; good to keep expenses low
11:34 schestowitz-TR; motto is
11:34 schestowitz-TR; live modest, work less hard
11:34 schestowitz-TR; money is storage of labbour quotient
11:34 schestowitz-TR; if you need less money, less arrduous labour will be required (or for shorter duration)
11:34 schestowitz-TR; we can live on rianne babysitting elephants 16 hours a wek
11:34 schestowitz-TR; net time working 2-5 hours
11:34 Techrights-sec; storage with loss / entropy
11:36 schestowitz;
11:36 schestowitz; Ubiquitous Surveillance by ICE
11:36 schestowitz;
11:36 schestowitz; Report by Georgetowns Center on Privacy and Technology published a comprehensive report on the surprising amount of mass surveillance conducted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
11:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Ubiquitous Surveillance by ICE - Schneier on Security
11:36 schestowitz;
11:36 schestowitz;
11:37 schestowitz;
11:37 schestowitz; [Old] American Dragnet: Data-Driven Deportation in the 21st Century
=> American">↺ https://americandragnet.org/">American
11:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-americandragnet.org | American Dragnet | Data-Driven Deportation in the 21st Century
11:37 schestowitz;
11:37 schestowitz; This report argues that you should. Our two-year investigation, including hundreds of Freedom of Information Act requests and a comprehensive review of ICEs contracting and procurement records, reveals that ICE now operates as a domestic surveillance agency. Since its founding in 2003, ICE has not only been building its own capacity to use surveillance to carry out deportations but has also
11:37 schestowitz; played a key role in the federal governments larger push to amass as much information as possible about all of our lives. By reaching into the digital records of state and local governments and buying databases with billions of data points from private companies, ICE has created a surveillance infrastructure that enables it to pull detailed dossiers on nearly anyone, seemingly at any time. In its efforts to arrest and deport, ICE has
11:37 schestowitz; without any judicial, legislative or public oversight reached into datasets containing personal information about the vast majority of people living in the U.S., whose records can end up in the hands of immigration enforcement simply because they apply for drivers licenses; drive on the roads; or sign up with their local utilities to get access to heat, water and electricity.
11:37 schestowitz; ICE has built its dragnet surveillance system by crossing legal and ethical lines, leveraging the trust that people place in state agencies and essential service providers, and exploiting the vulnerability of people who volunteer their information to reunite with their families. Despite the incredible scope and evident civil rights implications of ICEs surveillance practices, the agency has
11:37 schestowitz; managed to shroud those practices in near-total secrecy, evading enforcement of even the handful of laws and policies that could be invoked to impose limitations. Federal and state lawmakers, for the most part, have yet to confront this reality.
11:37 schestowitz;
11:37 schestowitz;
11:37 schestowitz-TR; social control media magnifies or amplified social/peer pressure
11:37 schestowitz-TR; we use invidious
11:37 schestowitz-TR; next up maybe gemini, but for this ytou need to download first or play an open file
11:37 schestowitz-TR; which oiver gemini:// can be damaged on transmission
11:37 Techrights-sec; ack
11:39 schestowitz-TR; i realised ~5 years ago she barely opens web pages
11:39 schestowitz-TR; shge watches videos and scrolls down the front page of billbc without clicking on anything
11:39 schestowitz-TR; it's a long long scroll
11:39 schestowitz-TR; like social control media
11:39 schestowitz-TR; wirth many photos
11:39 schestowitz-TR; at least curated a bit
11:39 schestowitz-TR; maybe not in favour of lies but state agenda
11:40 Techrights-sec; infinite scolling
11:42 schestowitz-TR; motto is
11:42 schestowitz-TR; live modest, work less hard
11:42 schestowitz-TR; money is storage of labbour quotient
11:42 schestowitz-TR; if you need less money, less arrduous labour will be required (or for shorter duration)
11:42 schestowitz-TR; we can live on rianne babysitting elephants 16 hours a wek
11:42 schestowitz-TR; net time working 2-5 hours
11:42 schestowitz-TR; not infinite but long
11:43 schestowitz-TR; drew devault and some geminauts are latest to blast social control media
11:43 schestowitz-TR; as being toxic and unhealthy
11:43 schestowitz-TR; more in Daily LINKS
11:43 schestowitz-TR; Musk put twitter in a death spiral
11:43 schestowitz-TR; he plastwered a "caution: do not buy" label on it
11:51 schestowitz;
11:51 schestowitz; The Fediverse can be pretty toxic
=> The">↺ https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/09/Fediverse-toxicity.html">The
11:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-drewdevault.com | The Fediverse can be pretty toxic
11:51 schestowitz;
11:51 schestowitz; Social networks are not good for you. The Fediverse brought out the worst in me, and it can bring out the worst in you, too. The behaviors it encourages are plainly defined as harassment, a behavior which is not unique to any ideological condition. People get hurt on the Fediverse. Keep that in mind. Consider taking a look in the mirror and asking yourself if your relationship with the platform is
11:51 schestowitz; healthy for you and for the people around you.
11:51 schestowitz;
11:51 schestowitz;
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14:16 Techrights-sec; I didn't get anything done yesterday except a bit of planning. Today I was
14:16 Techrights-sec; able to do some experiments with SQLite3. Perhaps tomorrow I'll be able
14:16 Techrights-sec; to squeeze in some merging of the experiments into the existing mockup
14:16 Techrights-sec; ack
14:16 schestowitz-TR; db still holding up OK enough
14:16 schestowitz-TR; I will prod kanini once a day
14:16 Techrights-sec; ack
14:28 schestowitz-TR; I want to 'innovate' in the sites (scare quotes) to make things better than 'traditional' ones, but do not know how to
14:28 schestowitz-TR; but making our own cms makes extending it easier
14:28 Techrights-sec; ack
14:28 Techrights-sec; the HTML + CSS in the mockup still needs polishing though
14:54 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1545619236403515392
=> ↺ https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1545619236403515392
14:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Too much top down isolates the top and they go crazy with self importance: This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its L https://t.co/ip2lJRuRQA
14:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Too much top down isolates the top and they go crazy with self importance: This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its L https://t.co/ip2lJRuRQA
14:54 schestowitz; "Too much top down isolates the top and they go crazy with self importance: This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank)"
14:55 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/GiamBuonomo/status/1546116613077966851
=> ↺ https://twitter.com/GiamBuonomo/status/1546116613077966851
14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GiamBuonomo: @schestowitz https://t.co/9QdP8uFQpd
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17:31 schestowitz-TR; Last I saw....
17:47 Techrights-sec; ok the other messages about maintenance must not have gone through
17:47 schestowitz-TR; I was afk
17:47 schestowitz-TR; so I only see the new session
18:20 Techrights-sec; not much other than that
18:54 Techrights-sec; I had a little bit of time and modified the script to save into an SQLite3
18:54 Techrights-sec; database. Next time I will throw together something quick to extract
18:54 Techrights-sec; records based on date and save them as static files.
18:55 schestowitz-TR; if I understand it correctly, the DB is then accessed just to create the statis files and the feeds
18:55 schestowitz-TR; then, once pages age, no more need to touch the DB to retrieve them
18:55 schestowitz-TR; great!
18:56 Techrights-sec; correct
18:56 Techrights-sec; it also makes it possible to make a new template some time in the future
18:56 Techrights-sec; and then apply it to the whole site, including the pre-existing posts, not just
18:56 Techrights-sec; future posts
18:56 Techrights-sec; There are some fine points I am missing or misunderstanding with SQL
18:56 Techrights-sec; but the main thing is that as far as a proof-of-concept prototype goes, it is
18:56 Techrights-sec; moving along
18:57 schestowitz-TR; I think the lion's share of human (non-bot) traffic is posts from the past 1-2 days)
18:57 schestowitz-TR; the same is true in a lot of sites
18:57 schestowitz-TR; so applying changes to old pages isn't so critical
18:58 Techrights-sec; after the extractor, or as part of its development, I'll have to figure out
18:58 Techrights-sec; the navigation links
18:58 Techrights-sec; Of course, but there is always the off chance that someone finds an old post
18:58 Techrights-sec; and wishes to explore. That needs to remain possible.
19:00 schestowitz-TR; for a foreseeable future the very old ~167,000 nodes can be sevred with the old CMS
19:00 schestowitz-TR; which will be locked such that it's just there as legacy, with all those distro review susan did and are linked to
19:00 schestowitz-TR; from distowatch etc.
19:00 schestowitz-TR; scraping is the next stage, as we'll need to scrape anything after 27/6/2022 anyway
19:00 schestowitz-TR; I already know how to do this
19:01 Techrights-sec; yes but it would be best to scrape them into a static site eventually, using
19:01 Techrights-sec; wget or something
19:01 Techrights-sec; It's just a matter of finding the right parameters to ensure that the comments
19:01 Techrights-sec; and such are retained
19:01 Techrights-sec; There are a lot of parts, like the reviews and galleries
19:04 schestowitz-TR; some nodes are multi-paged, both for content and for comments (there are thresholds)
19:04 schestowitz-TR; but the priority is retaining existing readers by giving a good rss feed
19:04 schestowitz-TR; later worry about "the other stuff"
19:04 schestowitz-TR; we can do something similar with TR wordpress later on
19:04 schestowitz-TR; there is CMS and bloat fatigue anyway
19:04 schestowitz-TR; people should not need to download like 20- tiny images and other objects just to read an article with one image
19:04 schestowitz-TR; gemini shows it can be done withoiut even that one image
19:13 Techrights-sec; yes
19:13 Techrights-sec; the current mockup has no direct provision for images. They are probably not
19:13 Techrights-sec; needed but I would like to know what other think
19:14 schestowitz-TR; images are just like a field
19:14 schestowitz-TR; you enter some external url, sometimes wikipedia
19:14 schestowitz-TR; it adds a little at a low cost
19:16 Techrights-sec; ok, an additional table with a blob can be added
19:19 schestowitz-TR; I used to think of other ways of improving or enhancing the site
19:19 schestowitz-TR; it has been mostly the same since 2014/15
19:19 schestowitz-TR; putting myself in the shoes of what I think readers are
19:19 schestowitz-TR; some times around 2016 we decided to utilise comments to post followups
19:19 schestowitz-TR; avoiding repetition of themes and stories in the front page
19:19 schestowitz-TR; but comments are not meant to be used like this
19:19 schestowitz-TR; we shut doiwn registration for new accounts due to spam and worse
19:19 schestowitz-TR; one thing I 'implmented' is a loop that checks timestamps
19:19 schestowitz-TR; so that if I add "update" to an existing page it gets bumped up to the top
19:19 schestowitz-TR; this was never possible with the front page or rss feed
19:19 schestowitz-TR; but we had a view (still have it) at the top of the front page) to indicate new
19:19 schestowitz-TR; comments based on visitor's cookie
19:19 Techrights-sec; ack
19:22 schestowitz-TR; of note: if we add "UDPATE" to a page maybe better reverse chronological
19:22 schestowitz-TR; so that the latest additiion is shown first, giving emphasis to the new stuff with the older stuff trailing
19:22 schestowitz-TR; -----
19:22 schestowitz-TR; Ubuntu 24.04: things to do after install
19:22 schestowitz-TR; Ubuntu 24.04 reeleases
19:22 schestowitz-TR; Ubuntu 24.04 to be relerased later today
19:22 schestowitz-TR; ====
19:22 schestowitz-TR; (all in one "node") to avoid flooding the site over and over again with related story
19:23 Techrights-sec; so a dc.date.modified field is needed, too, then
19:24 schestowitz-TR; the way it works now, when the file is edited the file system is containing the time stamo
19:24 schestowitz-TR; and that gets determined when scanning the files
19:24 Techrights-sec; It's more efficient to scan the sqlite database
19:25 schestowitz-TR; yes, but it would be nice to edit the files directly, too
19:26 Techrights-sec; then there is a great challenge to get them back into the database
19:26 Techrights-sec; the files must be 100% valid HTML and conform to several check points regarding
19:26 Techrights-sec; structure, or else that is not feasible
19:27 schestowitz-TR; makes sense, so maybe a script to open the file in nano and then commit the change
19:27 schestowitz-TR; rianne can cope opk with nano
19:31 Techrights-sec; but it's quite doable within those constraints
19:31 Techrights-sec; excellent
19:31 Techrights-sec; though the todo list just grew by six points in these last few minutes :/
19:31 Techrights-sec; I'll work on the extaction, then extraction + nav menu, next time I can
19:31 Techrights-sec; get a chance. (Prob. tomorrow) Then the update.
19:32 schestowitz-TR; if all the nodes are in a db, then off-the-sheft converters cann produce gemtext from that DB as well
19:32 schestowitz-TR; gemini.tuxmachines.org:1965 with agate running or similar
19:32 schestowitz-TR; the format is quite consistent, either list or item, sometimes with "Also:"
19:33 Techrights-sec; Yes all the nodes need to be in the db and then the conversions to gemtext
19:33 Techrights-sec; will be easy as would any other template. The file syste basically becomes
19:33 Techrights-sec; a mirror of the db content.
19:33 Techrights-sec; yes, good idea.
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20:22 schestowitz-TR; "I wrote a bunch about social media in the past few years, and I sort of stopped trying to "convince" anyone to stop using it (be it entirely, or even just partially), but I still remark on the dangers of the services out there." gemini://tmo.smol.pub/1657471912
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20:23 schestowitz-TR; "Anyway, I still support (or sometimes just tolerate) that people still use social networks, but more people are probably leaving them (all of them) at this point, and that can only be a good thing. It's always up to the individual, though. No one will do it for them." gemini://tmo.smol.pub/1657471912
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