This page permanently redirects to gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2009/03/26/irc-boycottnovell-freenode-march-25th-2009-part-2/.

● 03.26.09

●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: March 25th, 2009 – Part 2

Posted in IRC Logs at 4:39 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Enter the IRC channel now

To use your own IRC client, join channel #boycottnovell in FreeNode.

=> ↺ FreeNode

PeterFAhttp://www.forbes.com/2006/11/02/linu…  Mar 25 20:36_Hicham_1MinceR : what are the features that u use the most?Mar 25 20:36MinceRit would be difficult to gatherMar 25 20:37_Hicham_1i am glad when a new virus is spreading aroundMar 25 20:37_Hicham_1i tried to apply the same model of least privilegies on Windows, but it failsMar 25 20:37_Hicham_1nonetheless, it is essentialMar 25 20:38trmancoMinceR, Firefox does no crash all the timeMar 25 20:38_Hicham_1I use a guest account when I am on Windows + Disabling AutoPlayMar 25 20:38trmancothose crashes at least here are do to plugins like flash or javaMar 25 20:38MinceRi’ve started collecting links that make it crashMar 25 20:38trmancoto doMar 25 20:38MinceReven then, they’re crashesMar 25 20:38_Hicham_1MinceR : give me a linkMar 25 20:38trmancogimme thos linksMar 25 20:38trmancothoseMar 25 20:39PeterFAWow, EXT4 sounds exciting.Mar 25 20:39_Hicham_1Firefox just crashed today when I tried to use java gij pluginMar 25 20:39PeterFAYes, I get excited by new ways to store data.Mar 25 20:39trmancoEXT4 is still on my wishlist hereMar 25 20:39trmancobrtfs sound goodMar 25 20:40MinceRone didn’t crash it nowMar 25 20:40PeterFAschestowitz, you’ve been studying software for a time now: why don’t you come up with a rating system for software that only discusses your topic?Mar 25 20:40MinceRthe other was changed since i bookmarked itMar 25 20:40PeterFAschestowitz, for example, how do I tell if it’s ok to use Acme Project?Mar 25 20:40mib_r2aktx has quit (“http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client”)Mar 25 20:40MinceRso it did a lot of good to collect them -_-Mar 25 20:41MinceRsome features i can think of: sidebar, gestures, tabbed browsing with close and move left, close and move right, quick search via keywords (though i’ve moved that into a javascript app already), blocking of iframes, embeds, objects and stuff like that until a click, go up in hierarchy, clear and focus location bar button, list all links on page (with the option to copy selected links to clipboard), the ability to turn the menubar into a button Mar 25 20:43MinceRoh, and session managementMar 25 20:43schestowitztrmanco: I see BN is there tooMar 25 20:44MinceRpopup blocking, recalling closed tabsMar 25 20:44schestowitzin Mar 25 20:44schestowitzhttp://www.linuxleak.com/Mar 25 20:44trmancoMar 25 20:45schestowitzPeterFA: ranking s/w in BN?Mar 25 20:45PeterFABN?Mar 25 20:45PeterFAOh, boycottnovell.Mar 25 20:45schestowitzYesMar 25 20:45PeterFANot exactly, like write a formula for ranking software.Mar 25 20:46schestowitzThere are many sites that rank FOSSMar 25 20:46schestowitzBased on what?Mar 25 20:46schestowitz# of users?Mar 25 20:46PeterFAschestowitz, based on the trustworthiness of software: like Open DRM or something.Mar 25 20:46PeterFAschestowitz, does this have DRM?Mar 25 20:46PeterFADoes it lead to the domination of IT by Acme?Mar 25 20:46PeterFADoes this really support the freedom that software should provide?Mar 25 20:47PeterFALike that.Mar 25 20:47PeterFAOr a rating for stories, I don’t know… but if you make something other people can apply, they can rate their own software.Mar 25 20:47PeterFASo if they’re in a store they can think about it. Who knows? Maybe you’ll get some rating on a box like Nutrition Information on boxes of food.Mar 25 20:48MinceRi also used the bookmark manager a lot (with search and all) but i’ve moved to SiteBarMar 25 20:48MinceRi’m not entirely satisfied with SiteBar thoughMar 25 20:48PeterFAAnd you can get a lot of attention to your blog, to help expose Microsoft and Friends (TM).Mar 25 20:48MinceRred hat still can’t decide whether they’re interested in the desktop or not >> http://linux.slashdot.org/article…Mar 25 20:56MinceRre browser features: i’m also using ad blocking but i’ll probably use privoxy for thatMar 25 20:56MinceR(same with referer blocking)Mar 25 20:57schestowitzInteresting take: UK Pupils to Learn How to Be Spied On . Since the govt’ can’t ask kids to write down names of friends and hand these over.Mar 25 20:57schestowitzPeterFA: thanks, I might get to itMar 25 20:57schestowitzI need to worry about a Wiki firstMar 25 20:57schestowitzMinceR: Firefox has AWESOMEbar (how corny a name)Mar 25 20:57stated has quit (“ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]“)Mar 25 20:57MinceRi care little as long as quicksearch bookmarks work :>Mar 25 20:58schestowitzTo me, FF2->FF3 mainly meant speed gainsMar 25 20:58MinceRspeed gains are what make me consider ff3 againMar 25 20:58schestowitzit’s pretty fastMar 25 20:58MinceRand that perhaps there’s a remote chance ff3 will crash a little less often than operaMar 25 20:58schestowitzIt renders the page before it’s fully loadedMar 25 20:58MinceRoh, and NoScriptMar 25 20:58schestowitzMinceR: FF3 is more flaky than FF2 for meMar 25 20:58schestowitzNot flaky, just a little more soMar 25 20:59schestowitzMaybe once in 40 hours as opposed to 200 hoursMar 25 20:59MinceRthen perhaps opening a dozen web pages won’t take up an amount of computing power that wasn’t even available 10 years ago or soMar 25 20:59MinceRthen again, the web just isn’t bloated enough yet for some >> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.p…Mar 25 20:59PeterFAschestowitz, also, you can rate companies based on the honesty of their software and business strategies Mar 25 20:59balzacFF3 is the ultimate browser for web developersMar 25 20:59balzacit’s also good if you want fine granular control of what content is presented and howMar 25 21:00MinceRwho knows, maybe if i get a rack of servers and assign one tab to each, i can get a browser that isn’t slow as molasses and i get to run something else beside itMar 25 21:00balzacadblock, grease-monkey, etcMar 25 21:00MinceRyes, greasemonkey is great stuff tooMar 25 21:00MinceRback when i used ff as my main browser i put a lot of addons into itMar 25 21:01MinceRi think that contributed to the slowness and instabilityMar 25 21:01schestowitzLMAO: AFP pulls quote about Youtube block from two-year-old blog post “Take that traditional media! In all fairness though, we’d like to point out that most bloggers know how to check a time stamp.”Mar 25 21:01balzacIt’s not as optimized as chrome or other webkit-based browsers because it is filled with hooks for developers and so it can’t be quickly changed in such a way that all the extension devs are left with broken projectsMar 25 21:01balzacobviously, FF is going to need to separate tabs into separate threadsMar 25 21:02balzacprocesses, I meanMar 25 21:02MinceRindeedMar 25 21:02schestowitzMy Firefox themes broke that I sort of created broke with an upgradeMar 25 21:02MinceRi wouldn’t mind being able to use chromium on linuxMar 25 21:02schestowitzI never bothers fixing compatibility although some users mailed me about it and offered helpMar 25 21:03balzacbut leading the way against proprietary codecs with ogg theora is quite nobleMar 25 21:03balzacif you want a light, efficient browser, try Conkeror (I don’t mean Konqueror)Mar 25 21:03schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Softw…Mar 25 21:03balzacemacs key-bindings, no extra interfaceMar 25 21:03balzacgecko-based, compatible with mozreplMar 25 21:04balzacbad-@ssMar 25 21:04schestowitzBawd assMar 25 21:04schestowitzEPA Makes Landmark Finding: Global Warming Threatens Public Health and Welfare Mar 25 21:05schestowitzCash cows die sometimes (photo): The Wall Street Crowd and the Transparency Revolution Mar 25 21:06_Hicham_1MinceR : use plain w3mMar 25 21:06MinceRi don’t like emacs keybindingsMar 25 21:06MinceR_Hicham_1: w3m does very little, including no javascriptMar 25 21:06MinceRif that was fine, i’d just use links2 -g all dayMar 25 21:07_Hicham_1MinceR : use Firefox with WineMar 25 21:07MinceRlolMar 25 21:07schestowitzInteresting stuff: When ‘Mad Men’ Meets Augmented Reality  Mar 25 21:07MinceRthen i could enjoy the totally broken windowsoid font renderingMar 25 21:07MinceRand my eyes would meltMar 25 21:07PeterFAI don’t understand the whole SCO vs. Novell case. They both are basically Microsoft (R) Puppets (TM).Mar 25 21:11schestowitzThe server is overloaded again. It does almost 5GB/dayMar 25 21:11schestowitz“Server Load  5.92 (4 cpus)”Mar 25 21:11schestowitzNot responsiveMar 25 21:11PeterFASo, the fact that SCO lost doesn’t matter. It never solved the amnesty problem.Mar 25 21:11schestowitzMicrosoft has more tricks up its sleevesMar 25 21:11schestowitzThe load on the DB server is rising nowMar 25 21:12MinceRperhaps m$ is having one of their lackeys kill the otherMar 25 21:12PeterFASo, the lawsuit was against Novell for elligedly using SCO property, but the judges said that belongs to Novell, crushing SCO. So, if you use Linux, you still can be sued by Novell.Mar 25 21:13schestowitzOur days on this server are numbered. I might as well assume we’ll need to move to something bigger, even with excessive caching enabled. it’s not worth the nightmare.Mar 25 21:13PeterFAschestowitz, what server do you talk about?Mar 25 21:13schestowitzPeterFA: BNMar 25 21:13PeterFAschestowitz, oh.Mar 25 21:13schestowitzBeen having many problems this yearMar 25 21:13PeterFAschestowitz, I’ll set up the website for you if you like.Mar 25 21:13PeterFAschestowitz, on your new server.Mar 25 21:14schestowitzEsp. in January when we covered Comes smoking gunsMar 25 21:14PeterFADon’t know about migration though, I’ll have to look into it.Mar 25 21:14schestowitzPeterFA: that’s OK, thanks.Mar 25 21:14schestowitzMaybe mirroring would helpMar 25 21:14PeterFAschestowitz, not a bad idea.Mar 25 21:14schestowitzLike…. replicating the DB and having a secondary domain or somethingMar 25 21:14schestowitzMaybe on one of my machinesMar 25 21:15PeterFAschestowitz, what you could do is load balancing.Mar 25 21:15schestowitzcheapo domain like BNmirror.orgMar 25 21:15PeterFAschestowitz, how much is your hosting?Mar 25 21:15schestowitzIf it crashes too, it won’t matter muchMar 25 21:15schestowitzPeterFA: Shane pays the bills.Mar 25 21:15schestowitzAdSense covers it…. not sure how much it costs him now cause he upgrades to 500GB/month limitMar 25 21:16PeterFAYou could get an account on object6.com. I know that guy who owns it.Mar 25 21:16PeterFAI’ll get an affilation pay too Mar 25 21:16schestowitzPeterFA: I have my familiar host tooMar 25 21:16schestowitzShane said he can pass me the domain nameMar 25 21:16PeterFAschestowitz, you need like a server on every continent.Mar 25 21:16schestowitzHe still holds boycottredhat.com BTW. Don’t ask me why..Mar 25 21:17PeterFAschestowitz, so you get an account in NA, AU, EU, AF, and AS.Mar 25 21:17PeterFAschestowitz, so nobody uses it for evil purposes.Mar 25 21:17schestowitzPeterFA: no, we’re not that bigMar 25 21:17schestowitzLifeHacker maybe.Mar 25 21:17schestowitzSomeone in Norway can get novell.no Mar 25 21:18NeonFloss (n=imsorry@rdsl-0665.tor.pathcom.com) has joined #boycottnovellMar 25 21:18PeterFAschestowitz, you should have affilate programs with companies you like so that you can say, “Instead of this product, use that.” and then you put a link to the site and you get an affiliate cut.Mar 25 21:18schestowitzhttp://yes.no/ > “Oops! This link appears broken.”Mar 25 21:18schestowitzPeterFA: that would put vested interestsMar 25 21:19schestowitzNo reliabilityMar 25 21:19PeterFAschestowitz, you’d get a ton of money though Mar 25 21:19schestowitz“Unafraid” China apparently fears YouTube Mar 25 21:19schestowitzPeterFA: doubtful, and it comes at the cost of credibilityMar 25 21:20PeterFAschestowitz, have a twitter?Mar 25 21:20schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/schestowitzMar 25 21:20schestowitzI could probably create a twitter account tooMar 25 21:20silentivm (n=renan@189.58.199.28.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #boycottnovellMar 25 21:21schestowitztrmanco: do you use twitter to post all the same stuff?Mar 25 21:21trmancosometimesMar 25 21:21trmancoidenti.ca is my first priorityMar 25 21:21PeterFAI don’t have an identi.ca.Mar 25 21:23schestowitzThe Independent covers GNU/Linux, which is rare Mar 25 21:23zer0c00l has quit (Remote closed the connection)Mar 25 21:24PeterFAschestowitz, do you have any criticism against Linux?Mar 25 21:25schestowitzWho writes this utter nonsense? “Inevitably, Google (GooOS) is rumoured to be entering the platform war too, fuelling speculation that Microsoft’s operating system maker days might be numbered.”Mar 25 21:25schestowitzGooOS? WHAAA?Mar 25 21:25schestowitzPeterFA: yes, GPLv2 for startersMar 25 21:25PeterFAschestowitz, any others?Mar 25 21:26schestowitztrmanco: do you post the same stuff in twitter?Mar 25 21:26schestowitzPeterFA: none I can think of at the momentMar 25 21:26PeterFAschestowitz, and what’s your beef with GPLv2?Mar 25 21:26trmancoyesMar 25 21:28schestowitztrmanco: so should I open an account there too for friends who only read twitter?Mar 25 21:31schestowitzPeterFA: Linux should upgradeMar 25 21:31trmancoschestowitz, sureMar 25 21:32PeterFAschestowitz, yeah.Mar 25 21:41PeterFAschestowitz, enouf, who hangs out in #debian doesn’t like how Linux got Tivoed.Mar 25 21:42PeterFAschestowitz, I assume that means they didn’t fight for their GPL rights and compromised.Mar 25 21:42PeterFAschestowitz, because of the Tivo abuse.Mar 25 21:43_Hicham_1what do u think of Python vs Java folks?Mar 25 21:46wtfyani prefer pythonMar 25 21:46wtfyani think that python can eat java easilly, especially icedtea. they don’t actually eat that sh** normallyMar 25 21:49Eruaran has quit (“No Ping reply in 30 seconds.”)Mar 25 21:52Eruaran (n=quassel@183.110.208.203.cable.dyn.gex.ncable.com.au) has joined #boycottnovellMar 25 21:52schestowitztrmanco: https://twitter.com/schestowitzMar 25 21:54schestowitzIs there a program that connects to both?Mar 25 21:54trmancoha coolMar 25 21:54trmancowhat for kde?Mar 25 21:54schestowitzAnythingMar 25 21:54schestowitzEven Web-basedMar 25 21:54trmancowebased yesMar 25 21:55schestowitzHow do I do vertical split in Konqueror?Mar 25 21:56schestowitzI can’t rememberMar 25 21:56trmancohttps://ping.fm/Mar 25 21:56schestowitzOK, I got itMar 25 21:56schestowitzI have 3-pane KonquerorMar 25 21:57schestowitzCLI at bottom, identica on the left and twitter on the rightMar 25 21:57silentivm has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Mar 25 21:57schestowitzSurrendering. I’ll keep both in synch, I guessMar 25 21:59trmancoping.fm worksMar 25 22:01balzaceveryone is making atwitter about twat-jokes about twitter latelyMar 25 22:01balzacI can’t even see twitter, twit (This Week in Tech with Leo something) without thinking of twatMar 25 22:02balzac-makingMar 25 22:03balzachave you twatted lately?Mar 25 22:04schestowitztrmanco: Just signed up to ping.fm. Testing.Mar 25 22:08balzacThen there’s cursebird, syndicating the curses used on twitterMar 25 22:09trmancoI just tested itMar 25 22:09balzactwat should be more popular than the “F” word, if twitterers catch the wave of twatting, past-tense usageMar 25 22:09schestowitztrmanco: thanks. It’s workingMar 25 22:12trmancoyou’re welcomeMar 25 22:12silentivm (n=renan@189.58.199.28.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #boycottnovellMar 25 22:12schestowitzI’ve pretty much stopped with sites like Digg.Mar 25 22:13schestowitzToo cumbersome and no chance to add much personal opinion, either.Mar 25 22:13silentivmI’ve never cared for Digg. I used it once or twice then gave up.Mar 25 22:13schestowitzDigg is edging downwards.Mar 25 22:13schestowitzNot sure about reddit.Mar 25 22:13balzacDigg is getting abused too much by “power-users”Mar 25 22:14silentivmI never used reddit, I believe.Mar 25 22:14balzacI saw an article about “power users” by a “power user”, but he didn’t admit to using things like curl and proxies, so I don’t believe his insider report is accurateMar 25 22:15balzache made it sound like a mere conspiracy of users who are very dedicated, not people abusing the system by direct programmatical interfaceMar 25 22:16kentma (n=user@host86-169-110-247.range86-169.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellMar 25 22:16schestowitzhttp://www.linuxdevices.c… (First ever Linux botnet?). On the so-called malware… or use of bad passwords on Linux.Mar 25 22:17balzacDigg needs to show usernames for every up or down vote, then it will have more lifeMar 25 22:17schestowitzbalzac: I was of these usersMar 25 22:17schestowitzRanked 17th in the site at my peakMar 25 22:17balzacvendettas and cliques can become very interestingMar 25 22:17schestowitzBut the problem is PR peopleMar 25 22:17MinceRdigg doesn’t need more or less lifeMar 25 22:17schestowitzNot power usersMar 25 22:17balzacRoy, that’s pretty goodMar 25 22:17MinceRit’s a sponge that hopefully sucks up crApple cultistsMar 25 22:17schestowitzMany users rely on real followersMar 25 22:17MinceRand keeps them occupiedMar 25 22:17schestowitzOthers just game itMar 25 22:17schestowitzMinceR: +1Mar 25 22:18schestowitzMaybe you drive away balrogMar 25 22:18schestowitzdroveMar 25 22:18balzacwhere is balrag lately?Mar 25 22:19balzacbalrogMar 25 22:19balzacis he an apple user?Mar 25 22:19balzacRoy, BN should give more features yet, so that you can have cliques and vendettas on your site. for that, you really need user-accountsMar 25 22:20kentma has quit (Client Quit)Mar 25 22:20MinceRiirc he is an apple fanboyMar 25 22:20MinceRi don’t care enough to checkMar 25 22:20schestowitzbalzac: could make ranking for registered user onlyMar 25 22:20schestowitzusersMar 25 22:20balzacI like the casings and chassis of apple machinesMar 25 22:21MinceRi can’t think of a single thing i like about appleMar 25 22:21silentivmneither do IMar 25 22:21silentivmcan IMar 25 22:21balzacRoy, it’s nice to see who votesMar 25 22:21balzacand make people be direct with up or downMar 25 22:21balzac5-star allows shades of grayMar 25 22:21balzaclet people fight like a cock-fight, a managed dialectic, leading toward your conclusionMar 25 22:22balzacThat’s the game Markos of DailyKos playsMar 25 22:22MinceR5-star also requests an amount of information the voter might not haveMar 25 22:23schestowitzbalzac: I don’t think I have user-naming featured at my disposalMar 25 22:23MinceR“is this a 3 or a 4?”Mar 25 22:23balzacthat’s why drupal instead of wordpress. WP is for blogs, Drupal is for community websites.Mar 25 22:24schestowitzAccording to RMS, “The New Zealand government has not given up its War on Sharing, and threatens to try again.” http://www.stallman.org/archives/2009-ja…Mar 25 22:24balzacdo a fundraiser for Tony’s Drigg module upgrade to D6, base BN on that, everybody wins.Mar 25 22:24MinceRisn’t there a gratis digg clone around already?Mar 25 22:25MinceRor a hundred? :>Mar 25 22:25schestowitzYesMar 25 22:25balzacdrigg, pliggMar 25 22:25schestowitzBut Digg model is passe to manyMar 25 22:25balzacpligg fell by the waysideMar 25 22:25schestowitzI moved to mu-bloggingMar 25 22:25balzacmu?Mar 25 22:26schestowitzmicroMar 25 22:26schestowitzlike the symbol MuMar 25 22:26MinceRi don’t see the point of microbloggingMar 25 22:26balzacicMar 25 22:26MinceRmoo-bloggingMar 25 22:26schestowitzhttp://mu.wordpress.org/about/Mar 25 22:27balzacRoy, Digg is not the optional implementation, and there is no model they can claim as their own because it wasn’t them who did it first.Mar 25 22:27balzacoptimalMar 25 22:27MinceRdoes the digg model even fit a site where only a select group submits articles?Mar 25 22:28schestowitzDigg was similar to SlashdotMar 25 22:36schestowitzEveryone inspires everyoneMar 25 22:36MinceRsadly, /. is becoming like diggMar 25 22:37schestowitzLong agoMar 25 22:38MinceRit’s not nearly as bad as digg yetMar 25 22:39MinceRevery time i look at the comments on a technical topic on digg, it’s always an endless stream of uninformed drivel from apple fanboysMar 25 22:40MinceRif someone has something clueful to say, it’s buriedMar 25 22:40MinceRslashdot seems to have a good ratio of insightful stuff and funny stuff tooMar 25 22:40schestowitzMinceR: true re: commentsMar 25 22:43schestowitzSlashdot comments are sometimes quite good.Mar 25 22:43schestowitzMinceR: in Digg, long comments get buriedMar 25 22:44schestowitzOne liners or two-word jokes are modded best sometimes.Mar 25 22:44balzacyeah but slashdot’s interface is too hardMar 25 22:45schestowitzWhy is Intel choosing to make GNU/Linux look so ugly? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?p…Mar 25 22:45schestowitzbalzac: yes, that keeps Apple fans outMar 25 22:46MinceRi prefer /.’s interface, because it seems to handle long threads betterMar 25 22:50MinceR(the classic interface, not the javascript Bloat City thing.)Mar 25 22:51MinceRit could certainly be improved thoughMar 25 22:51MinceRfinding the next top-level reply should be a lot easier than it is nowMar 25 22:51schestowitzRed Hat Profit Slips, As Revenue Grows 18% . Worth digesting the numbers…Mar 25 23:02schestowitz“Red Hat (NYSE:RHT) reported earnings of 22 cents per share, ex-items, beating analysts’ estimates for 20 cents per share.” http://www.mysmartrend.com/briefs.asp…Mar 25 23:04_Hicham_1Roys : u don’t like Moblin OS?Mar 25 23:05schestowitzIntel is a criminal entityMar 25 23:06_Hicham_1explainMar 25 23:06mib_kwlx9d (i=cfb5f01e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d5da81cf36bd3aa7) has joined #boycottnovellMar 25 23:06silentivm has quit (“Ping timeout: pilog(1+2cos(x)) seconds”)Mar 25 23:06schestowitz_Hicham_1: search BN for “Intel”Mar 25 23:06schestowitzIt’s not something I can elaborate on in a whimMar 25 23:06schestowitzNeed to manufacture a lot of evidence and present it because of the scale of the accused partyMar 25 23:07schestowitzSame when accusing the US of thingsMar 25 23:07schestowitzYou can’t just make a statement so easilyMar 25 23:07schestowitzEasy(ier) to say “Mugabe is a dictator” than “bush is a dictator” because people already assume the formerMar 25 23:07schestowitzHelp promote the Red Hat analysis from FFII: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?o…Mar 25 23:09schestowitzSomeone has just posted this in mixx: “Gates’ gimmick of becoming a philantropist repeats the Rockefeller scam almost one to one a century later.” http://www.whale.to/vaccine/bill_…Mar 25 23:11*mib_kwlx9d has quit (“http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client”)Mar 25 23:19schestowitz“The problem with this scenario is that conditions – primarily technology – have changed enough to allow what were always parasites to become true predators. Parasites need a healthy host to maintain their lifestyle.” http://www.cringely.com/2009/03/344/Mar 25 23:27_Hicham_1wow, if mplayer can be used to stream all flash video contentMar 25 23:29_Hicham_1i seen that it is possible for youtubeMar 25 23:30_Hicham_1it is really a great alternative, what do u think roy?Mar 25 23:30_Hicham_1that would solve the flash problem on LinuxMar 25 23:30_Hicham_1the existing HQTube that gives the real video address to mplayer-plugin can be extendedMar 25 23:32_Hicham_1to support all of the streaming flash websitesMar 25 23:32_Hicham_1except youkuMar 25 23:32_Hicham_1because this one is a little bit trickyMar 25 23:32_Hicham_1no one talksMar 25 23:33schestowitzit’s content makers that cause problemsMar 25 23:33schestowitzAnd software patentsMar 25 23:33_Hicham_1well, I am talking about a workaroundMar 25 23:38_Hicham_1so that we can get the real video addressMar 25 23:39schestowitz‘Content’ providers might not like thatMar 25 23:39_Hicham_1because adobe flash for linux really sucksMar 25 23:39_Hicham_1why?Mar 25 23:39MinceRadobe flash really sucksMar 25 23:39MinceRthere, fixed that for you Mar 25 23:39_Hicham_1why Roy?Mar 25 23:39_Hicham_1MinceR : do u already use HQTube script?Mar 25 23:40MinceRnopeMar 25 23:40MinceRwhat does it do?Mar 25 23:40_Hicham_1it allows you to play youtube videos directly into mplayer-pluginMar 25 23:40MinceRinterestingMar 25 23:41_Hicham_1http://userscripts.org/scrip…Mar 25 23:41MinceRi’d have to switch to ff to make it work thoughMar 25 23:41_Hicham_1MinceR : what do u use?Mar 25 23:41MinceRoperaMar 25 23:42_Hicham_1opera uses its own flash plugin i thinkMar 25 23:42MinceRmost importantly, i’ll need to find an extension that fixes the invalid cert handling in ff3Mar 25 23:42MinceRi’ve only found MitmMe so far, which goes too farMar 25 23:42MinceR(won’t even let me view the cert and see what’s wrong with it)Mar 25 23:42_Hicham_1MinceR : the FF3 warning is normalMar 25 23:43MinceR(also, it seems to add an exception for the rest of the session)Mar 25 23:43MinceR_Hicham_1: having to click 5 times to view a page i wouldn’t even normally care to use https for is not normalMar 25 23:43MinceRor for a page that uses a self-signed cert i happen to know the fingerprint ofMar 25 23:43_Hicham_1I think that there is a way to disable thatMar 25 23:43MinceRi haven’t found itMar 25 23:44schestowitzWTF? “Then there are the hobbyist versions of Linux, like Gentoo or Mandriva. ”  Madnriva?? This guy is a troll indeed… not the first time, either. http://www.pcworld.com/article/16…Mar 25 23:45MinceRit’s IDGMar 25 23:45schestowitzYes.Mar 25 23:45_Hicham_1Roy : he is an UbuntardMar 25 23:49MinceRgnMar 25 23:50_Hicham_1sleepy RoomMar 25 23:52schestowitztacone has just pulled a lolcatz: http://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-…Mar 25 23:55schestowitz_Hicham_1: I’m catching upMar 25 23:55schestowitzUbuntu Members Get Free LWN Subs . People still pay to read article? It’s a dying model.Mar 25 23:58

Share in other sites/networks: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.

Permalink  Send this to a friend

=> Permalink | ↺ Send this to a friend

=> Techrights

➮ Sharing is caring. Content is available under CC-BY-SA.