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● 06.04.08

●● #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: June 2nd, 2008

Posted in IRC Logs at 12:43 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

• ** Logfile started*** on Thu May 29 23:51:08 2008[Thu May 29 2008] [23:51:08] Join You have joined the channel #boycottnovell (n=dsmith@c-76-114-142-224.hsd1.md.comcast.net).[Thu May 29 2008] [23:51:08] Mode zelazny.freenode.net sets the channel mode to ‘no messages from outside’.[Thu May 29 2008] [23:51:08] Mode zelazny.freenode.net sets the channel mode to ‘secret’.[Thu May 29 2008] [23:51:08] Mode Channel modes: secret, no messages from outside[Thu May 29 2008] [23:51:08] Created This channel was created on 05/29/2008 11:51:07 PM.*** Logfile started*** on Sun Jun 1 13:33:08 2008[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:33:08] Join You have joined the channel #boycottnovell (n=dsmith@c-76-114-142-224.hsd1.md.comcast.net).[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:33:08] Channel [freenode-info] please register your nickname…don’t forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:33:18] hi roy[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:33:35] Mode Channel modes: secret, no messages from outside[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:33:35] Created This channel was created on 06/01/2008 12:47:33 PM.[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:35:28] Join henrytheeigthiam has joined this channel (i=henry@gateway/tor/x-96321d2920a94cd3).[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:36:40] hello schestowitz[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:38:30] hello douglas[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:38:38] dsmith_, hello[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:38:47] hi[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:40:49] dsmith_, switched from roadrunner to comcast, I see[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:41:06] I am not dsmith[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:41:11] VA to MD?[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:41:13] er.. the dsmith[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:41:19] no?[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:41:30] my name yes, but another person[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:41:47] who are you, then?[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:41:52] I have never used roadrunner[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:41:56] dsmith…[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:42:19] er…dsmith_[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:42:22] [Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:53:28] Hey there.[Sun Jun 1 2008] [13:55:43] I’ve not noticed activity here until just moments ago and I was going to leave for a while (not the channel, the office).[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:01:41] dsmith_, I see[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:02:14] schestowitz, have you registered the channel?[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:03:00] I haven’t, no. How do I do this? I think I’ll read the HOWTOs tomorrow. I’m off for about 7 hours. I’ll stay on this channel (idle). [Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:03:24] schestowitz, you probably won’t notice much action until you publicize it and invite others to collaborate here with you! =)[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:03:56] schestowitz, #freenode is a good help, especially since they’ve just switched over[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:04:07] some issues with services may have changed[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:04:23] the dsmith_ who isn’t dsmith may also help, if he knows anything[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:04:40] unless it’s here just to log[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:05:44] it should be the same as DALnet[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:05:45] one min[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:06:24] Notice -ChanServ- Insufficient parameters for INFO.[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:06:24] Notice -ChanServ- Syntax: INFO [Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:06:36] Notice -ChanServ- Channel #boycottnovell is not registered.[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:06:49] ok… its not registed and the commands are the same as Dalnet[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:06:50] so….[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:07:06] Notice -ChanServ- Invalid parameters for REGISTER.[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:07:06] Notice -ChanServ- Syntax: REGISTER [Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:07:11] ./chanserv register [#channelname] [password] [description][Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:07:19] without the period[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:07:33] * This will register your channelname with the selected password and a description of what the channel is about. The description is not important, but must be included in the command. For example: /chanserv register #AllysPlace shazam Ally’s very own channel.[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:07:48] there you go[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:07:55] some commands/features have changed[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:08:06] Dalnet? who uses that?[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:09:48] Nick henrytheeigthiam is now known as dsmith___.[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:10:21] what do you know dsmith_[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:10:28] I am not dsmith either but now I am dsmith___[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:10:32] lol[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:10:57] what a small world[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:11:00] Nick You are now known as Steve_Ballmer.[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:11:00] Notice -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify .[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:11:03] hehe[Sun Jun 1 2008] [14:11:08] : Heh. Did the “F” word come up?yoonki1do you know him?yoonki1he tried to downplay your efforts* baijum (n=baiju@122.166.34.202) has joined #boycottnovellschestowitzI can imagine. What is his professional affiliation (or what puts food on his table)?yoonki1He works for Microsoftyoonki1and is stationed in the Singaporean office yoonki1he is “reaching out” to FOSS guys hereschestowitz“Stationed”. Like colonies.yoonki1schestowitzSo he’s like the Singaporean Hilf.yoonki1Yes.schestowitz“We come in peace”yoonki1yeahyoonki1peacemaker of sortsschestowitzThe main problem are those who buy it. Even Asay falls for it.yoonki1and tries to convince us that Microsoft is trying very hard to open upschestowitzLOLschestowitzOpen up like a bear trap.yoonki1Anyway, here is some evidence that Microsoft has been waging a war against ODF before OOXMLyoonki1http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2008…schestowitzSomeone commented on that article which was published about me in LinuxToday a couple of days ago. It said that all Microsoft cares about is profit. Profit, profit, profit.schestowitzMicrosoft measures success in terms of short-term monetary gains.yoonki1yes.schestowitzHas Oliver offered to take you to lunch yet?yoonki1We told Oliver that the difference between MS and IBM is that IBM thinks in decade long biz plans, while MS just fights for the quarterly profitsyoonki1we took oliver out for dinner yoonki1food in Msia is cheap.yoonki1He asked me if I knew uschestowitzSpeaking of which, Microsoft is cooking it, you know? That new CFO is some chap from the paper industry in NZ. The previous guy took a hike. The new appointment is odd.yoonki1I said no, just from ur blog.yoonki1Coincdentally, Ollie will be migrating to NZ soon.schestowitzPJ tried to get your E-mail addy. Did she get to you at the end?yoonki1but still doing the same from SporetessierSingapore is a fun placeyoonki1nope,schestowitzNever spoke to you?yoonki1Only last year.tessierAs is Malaysia. I visited both places a couple years ago.schestowitzOh.yoonki1tessier: give us a buzz next time ure downschestowitzIt’s good to gather evidence from those Microsoft ran smear gigs against.tessieryoonki1: Will do. We had a good friend there give us the tour. It was great.schestowitz@yk, I’m reading your latest post at the moment. Have you seen the photo of Patrick and chaps from Microsoft yet? Maybe they took him out to too many dinners.yoonki1schestowitz: Ditesh wrote the post, no me.tessierI’ve been getting a kick out of the local Windows User GrouptessierSuch a huge different from the LUGyoonki1schestowitz: yeah, I saw the SC34 outing photo. yoonki1they after all will have to work together in SC34.yoonki1Its hard being at polar opposites when in the same room.schestowitz@yk, how did Microsoft (and chums) approach your superiors? Was there slander too?yoonki1I think Durusau is just playing nice … for his own sake.yoonki1schestowitz: hah. schestowitzSee, that’s a problem (wait while I explain)yoonki1schestowitz: I will blog about that one dayyoonki1schestowitz: its been a year already, and I still feel quite angryschestowitzHave you read the article “killing with kindness”? It’s social engineering.schestowitzIt’s embarrassing to write about it, I know, but that’s the only way for the story to be told.yoonki1Oh. Im just reading it now.yoonki1http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story…./a>schestowitzI had the Munchkins (Gary Stewart, active since the O/S2 Slog) use fake nyms and mass mailing the university, even the President. I can’t let them know that they were successful because they would then repeat it.schestowitzThat’s just one of the earlier incidents (2005 or 2006) when I was still busy with more academic research. I was advised to keep close to a lawyer because of the libel (soon afterwards came the ‘castration’ fables) that trolls still cite as ‘evidence’.yoonki1Do you have copies of MS making use of that evidence?schestowitzPJ told me I must do so, but I rely on Google retaining it.schestowitzIt’s difficult to accuse people because although I have addresses they all post from Web proxies and zombie PCs. Been like this for a decade. They hide traces.**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 2 09:23:51 2008**** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 2 09:24:40 2008**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 2 09:24:40 2008**** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 2 09:25:19 2008**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 2 09:25:19 2008schestowitzOK, I’ve just registered the channel as ‘dsmith’ had suggested.Jun 02 09:43yoonki1 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Jun 02 10:49yoonkit (n=yky@51.22.111.218.klj02-home.tm.net.my) has joined #boycottnovellJun 02 10:50schestowitzyoonkit, are you there?Jun 02 10:52[H]omerHey RoyJun 02 10:52schestowitzHas there been anything going  on here for the past 30 minutes? I got nothing.Jun 02 10:53schestowitzI was just about to test and see if there was a technical issue.Jun 02 10:53[H]omerI’ve just come back, so dunnoJun 02 10:53schestowitzHmmm…Jun 02 10:54schestowitzI’ve just posted a pointer about Fedora in BN.comJun 02 10:54schestowitzOne coming to deal a little blow to Novell… just needs quick proofreading.Jun 02 10:55yoonkitschestowitz: yesJun 02 10:55[H]omerOKJun 02 10:55[H]omerRoy, you should set up ChanServ on the channel as wellJun 02 10:56schestowitzyk, I received nothing from 9:09 to 10:52 (my time).  Was there only silence here? Then I got (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)Jun 02 10:56schestowitzHow is this done? I haven’t done IRC since I was about 13.Jun 02 10:56[H]omerlike this “/msg ChanServ set #boycottnovell guard on”Jun 02 10:56[H]omerlike this “/msg ChanServ help” for all the commandsJun 02 10:57schestowitz“/msg ChanServ set #boycottnovell guard onJun 02 10:57schestowitzOops.Jun 02 10:57>ChanServChanServNickServ Jun 02 11:15[H]omertype “/msg NickServ register your-email@address.com”Jun 02 11:15>NickServNickServChanServChanServNickServChanServChanServChanServChanServ, you can run multiple versions of IE under GNU/Linux.Jun 02 23:45dsmith_reddsman: have you tried ies4linux?Jun 02 23:45dsmith_or perhaps user agent switcherJun 02 23:45dsmith_Referring to H-P, I noticed the other day that one can purchase a lenovo laptop sans an OSJun 02 23:46dsmith_they do offer Suse of course, blehJun 02 23:46reddsmanNo I haven’t tried ieslinux.  I can try it tomorrow.Jun 02 23:47dsmith_its version 6 but it works…Jun 02 23:47reddsmanThat’s fine.  I hate 7 anyway.Jun 02 23:48schestowitzdmith, that’s good (Lenovo news). Price would be interesting.Jun 02 23:48reddsmanThat is good news.Jun 02 23:48dsmith_let me find the linkagainJun 02 23:48reddsmangotta run fellas.Jun 02 23:48schestowitzdsmith, you can run IE7 now, I think.Jun 02 23:48*reddsman (n=Dflax@c-68-50-6-60.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has left #boycottnovellJun 02 23:48schestowitzI never used it, but you can run multiple versions at the same time (can’t do that in Windows)Jun 02 23:49dsmith_http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/con…Jun 02 23:51dsmith_look under operating systemJun 02 23:51dsmith_ThinkPad PC DOS LicenseJun 02 23:52dsmith_i know for a fact that the video and wireless will work just by reading the specsJun 02 23:52dsmith_schestowitz: I have no need for ie7 PERIODJun 02 23:54schestowitzMe neither.Jun 02 23:55schestowitzIt’s a shame they don’t just sell people hardware. They certify for Ubuntu, Fedora and SUSE, IIRC, at least at Lenovo.Jun 02 23:55schestowitzThey pocket the savings (OS) though.Jun 02 23:56schestowitz$11.25Jun 02 23:58

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