[2023-12-13T08:12:31Z] hi

[2023-12-13T17:11:53Z] hi sewn

[2023-12-13T17:11:58Z] hi riteo

[2023-12-13T17:12:26Z] midfavila: regarding dead kiss, that's the whole point of this distro and its craziest aspect. It /cant't/ die

[2023-12-13T17:12:44Z] you can't kill it

[2023-12-13T17:13:31Z] riteo: you're talking about how it was designed to be

[2023-12-13T17:13:44Z] kiss was designed to be a meta-distro, in a way for anyone to just fork it and maintain it on their own

[2023-12-13T17:13:53Z] when we say kiss, we are talking about kiss community really

[2023-12-13T17:15:45Z] fair

[2023-12-13T17:16:08Z] I mean, every once in a while I do kiss u and I still see new stuff so, that's activity from my PoV :P

[2023-12-13T17:16:16Z] thats just 'maintain' stage

[2023-12-13T17:16:26Z] i want to see proposals get picked up

[2023-12-13T17:16:35Z] tbch

[2023-12-13T17:16:50Z] I would love to see improvements done to the distro

[2023-12-13T17:17:00Z] and I could technically

[2023-12-13T17:17:00Z] but

[2023-12-13T17:17:17Z] if I had the chance to work on a package manager, I'd work on a new distro plainly

[2023-12-13T17:17:45Z] I'm still using kiss daily don't get me wrong, but in those years I've seen it as a stepping stone, a prototype in a way, and a brilliant one if you ask me

[2023-12-13T17:18:18Z] point is, from my point of view, KISS Linux has reached its apex already

[2023-12-13T17:18:30Z] it will reach its apex once kiss gets rewritten

[2023-12-13T17:18:42Z] or dylan comes back

[2023-12-13T17:18:53Z] is the rewrite going to be in C?

[2023-12-13T17:19:28Z] we dont know

[2023-12-13T17:19:35Z] there is no definitive rewrite

[2023-12-13T17:19:38Z] dylan made on in C called k

[2023-12-13T17:19:55Z] maintainers made bliss (lua) and kiss-ng (zig; nothing implemented)

[2023-12-13T17:20:16Z] kiss-xorg maintainer did kiss.el (lisp) and i forgot made kiss-rs (rust)

[2023-12-13T17:21:06Z] mh

[2023-12-13T17:21:11Z] that's another interesting point

[2023-12-13T17:21:25Z] kiss is a concept, package manager specification, and distro

[2023-12-13T17:21:26Z] all at once

[2023-12-13T17:21:34Z] and also a package manager specification implementation

[2023-12-13T17:22:12Z] I might be going all ship of theseus rn, it doesn't help that I'm badly sleep deprived, but I feel like, maybe due to time reasons, maybe due to package format reasons, even just rewriting the package manager in c for the sake of it wouldn't change much

[2023-12-13T17:22:42Z] the shell pkgman, despite being not ideal, was always the strongest concept and selling point in a way

[2023-12-13T17:23:05Z] and exactly due to how KISS Linux is all those things combined changing something changes everything

[2023-12-13T17:24:23Z] I do agree with a lot of those proposals but by the time you implement them all it becomes something else entirely. The point of KISS was, in a way, to be maybe even too simple. It showed how plain "dumb" and flexible at the same time a distro can be

[2023-12-13T17:25:36Z] like, the package manager is a shell script, a shell script! I played a lot with shell scripts in the past and there's only so little you can do with shell scripts before you have to switch to an actual programming language

[2023-12-13T17:29:28Z] although, again, that's my point of view (which is probably further exaggerated by my very little sleep these last few days)

[2023-12-13T17:32:18Z] thanks for coming to my TED talk

[2023-12-13T17:55:37Z] i was at your TED talk but i was on my phone the entire time

[2023-12-13T18:41:25Z] lol

[2023-12-13T21:22:15Z] <sad_plan> hi

[2023-12-13T21:57:16Z] hi sad_plan!

[2023-12-13T21:58:52Z] Hi sad_plan

[2023-12-13T22:08:12Z] <sad_plan> hi sewn riteo