[2023-11-12T01:46:29Z] I made many packages for CRUX, but had only one package for Gentoo. BTW, they both are source-based, like KISS.

[2023-11-12T01:48:54Z] Can you find crtatmega328p.o, libatmega328p.a, libatmega328p.o on your system?

[2023-11-12T01:49:21Z] yeah

[2023-11-12T01:49:34Z] like i said

[2023-11-12T01:49:51Z] is in /usr/avr/lib/avr5

[2023-11-12T01:57:20Z] Try: avr-gcc -mmcu=atmega328p -o uart_test.elf main.c -L/usr/lib/avr/avr6

[2023-11-12T01:57:43Z] s/avr6/avr5/

[2023-11-12T01:59:13Z] You should use main.c instead of main.o when running gcc

[2023-11-12T03:42:42Z] Does kiss package manager support meson?

[2023-11-12T03:56:29Z] what you mean by support?

[2023-11-12T03:57:17Z] Will it use meson if the package i add to my personal repo needs it

[2023-11-12T03:57:51Z] if you have meson installed

[2023-11-12T03:58:05Z] you can build your package

[2023-11-12T03:58:17Z] all kiss does is like exec the instructions

[2023-11-12T03:59:03Z] Okay, and does anyone have a script that auto generates /version files?

[2023-11-12T03:59:59Z] i dont think so

[2023-11-12T04:00:17Z] since you need to change the sources and version file everytime

[2023-11-12T04:01:28Z] Ah damn, was hoping itd be automatic on custom repos lol

[2023-11-12T04:03:12Z] just checksums are like that

[2023-11-12T04:03:30Z] but maybe people have something

[2023-11-12T04:08:08Z] There a usermod command in busybox?

[2023-11-12T05:23:20Z] <sad_plan> hi

[2023-11-12T06:42:20Z] hi sad_plan

[2023-11-12T06:42:38Z] have you guys ever tased Lindt chocolate before?

[2023-11-12T06:49:17Z] <sad_plan> I dont belive I have

[2023-11-12T06:50:52Z] give me your IBAN so i can wire transfer you the money to buy one

[2023-11-12T06:51:00Z] best chocolate ever

[2023-11-12T06:52:52Z] <sad_plan> riight. never seem them before though. I dont belive they sell them here

[2023-11-12T06:53:02Z] <sad_plan> nor in sweden for that matter

[2023-11-12T06:53:02Z] fidn them in ur local supersupermarket

[2023-11-12T06:53:17Z] woah youre live in sweden????

[2023-11-12T06:53:20Z] thats awesome

[2023-11-12T06:53:35Z] then im sure you know who sjalv: is i think

[2023-11-12T06:53:39Z] <sad_plan> what

[2023-11-12T06:53:46Z] Whats the best way to modify the bemenu config?

[2023-11-12T06:53:52Z] <sad_plan> you already know where I live

[2023-11-12T06:53:57Z] synimas: man 1 bemenu

[2023-11-12T06:54:04Z] <sad_plan> and no I dont know who sjalv: is

[2023-11-12T06:54:15Z] you can use environment variables to configure bemenu i believe

[2023-11-12T06:54:31Z] Ah, thought it was a config.h as well

[2023-11-12T06:54:41Z] its wayland, you dont usually expect suckless style software there anymore

[2023-11-12T06:54:45Z] Also, is putting dwl in my .profile a bad idea?

[2023-11-12T06:54:56Z] if youre using [ $tty = /dev/tty ] && dwl then no its a good idea

[2023-11-12T06:55:23Z] unless youre starting other software in your profile

[2023-11-12T06:55:32Z] like pipewire or dbus or anything for that matter other than dwl

[2023-11-12T06:55:35Z] Does that open it in a separate tty?

[2023-11-12T06:55:35Z] <sad_plan> whats wrong with just typing dwl manually when you log in instead?

[2023-11-12T06:56:05Z] Prefer not too

[2023-11-12T06:56:26Z] sad_plan: ive been always manually starting wayland and xorg by hand and i can see why autostart can be better

[2023-11-12T06:56:32Z] or autologin for that matter

[2023-11-12T06:58:11Z] <sad_plan> I get the deal, you just wanna jump straight into the action. I like having to enter my login credentials instead, just type sx to start a X server instead.

[2023-11-12T06:58:27Z] same, its more secure sometimes

[2023-11-12T06:58:41Z] especially for laptops (except having slock & encrypted disk)

[2023-11-12T06:58:41Z] Your string gets a unary operator expected output

[2023-11-12T06:58:48Z] <sad_plan> in case I wreck something, I dont have to deal with my .profile attempting to start something thats broken

[2023-11-12T06:59:13Z] Actually thats a fair point, i dont have other ttys setup atm

[2023-11-12T06:59:30Z] sad_plan: thats why you have the tty check to only tty1

[2023-11-12T06:59:37Z] kiss unfortunately doesnt really set up all the ttys for whatever reason

[2023-11-12T07:00:06Z] <sad_plan> its setup by runit instead. however theres nothing stopping you from having your init start them instead

[2023-11-12T07:00:11Z] runit doesnt setup ttys

[2023-11-12T07:00:16Z] <sad_plan> I used to do that before

[2023-11-12T07:00:42Z] <sad_plan> did init handle it?

[2023-11-12T07:00:45Z] <sad_plan> I forget

[2023-11-12T07:00:53Z] inittab handles it yes

[2023-11-12T07:00:57Z] <sad_plan> havent used KISS' init in a long time now

[2023-11-12T07:01:00Z] <sad_plan> right

[2023-11-12T07:01:05Z] runit should handle it imo tbh

[2023-11-12T07:01:46Z] <sad_plan> yeah, it keeps it out of the init system, and if you wanna start more/less ttys, you can easily activate/deactivate them. its how I have them setup

[2023-11-12T07:02:35Z] <sad_plan> I just have rcsm start my gettys instead. makes me depend on rcsm, which maybe is less ideal, but Im probably always going to have a service manager anyway so

[2023-11-12T07:02:54Z] why dont you make a kiss fork?

[2023-11-12T07:02:56Z] Ill just throw a shell script link with my starting shit into bin

[2023-11-12T07:03:09Z] synimas: make sure its local, like ~/bin or ~/.local/bin

[2023-11-12T07:03:14Z] u dont wanna be touching /usr

[2023-11-12T07:03:32Z] <sad_plan> sewn: wym, I have a kiss fork

[2023-11-12T07:03:41Z] i mean, a full fork

[2023-11-12T07:03:45Z] like complete detachment

[2023-11-12T07:03:52Z] Do i have to add ~/bin to path?

[2023-11-12T07:03:56Z] ofc

[2023-11-12T07:04:10Z] Also, why shant i bother /usr?

[2023-11-12T07:04:15Z] sad_plan: you should name it breakup linux

[2023-11-12T07:04:27Z] synimas: mostly because its reserved for system programs and such

[2023-11-12T07:04:31Z] <sad_plan> lol, why that name though?

[2023-11-12T07:04:36Z] because youre sad_plan

[2023-11-12T07:04:41Z] What ab /bin

[2023-11-12T07:04:41Z] and youre forking off kiss

[2023-11-12T07:04:44Z] <sad_plan> right

[2023-11-12T07:04:47Z] <sad_plan> lol

[2023-11-12T07:04:51Z] /bin is symlink to /usr/bin

[2023-11-12T07:05:07Z] Ah i see

[2023-11-12T07:05:38Z] <sad_plan> anyway, I almost have all packages I use in my repo. I however dont really see any benefit to instead have all of them in my repo. and who else but me would even use it?

[2023-11-12T07:05:42Z] Most applications use /usr

[2023-11-12T07:06:29Z] sad_plan: i would

[2023-11-12T07:06:46Z] thats if it actually switches out system components for better alternatives as well

[2023-11-12T07:06:59Z] i have ran sbase and ubase but you can recall how that wen

[2023-11-12T07:07:00Z] t

[2023-11-12T07:07:00Z] <sad_plan> dont you require abit more performane than what tinyx gives you?

[2023-11-12T07:07:10Z] tinyx just doesnt work for me AFAIK

[2023-11-12T07:07:14Z] <sad_plan> you were displeased by no colors

[2023-11-12T07:07:22Z] <sad_plan> why wouldnt it?

[2023-11-12T07:07:24Z] yk actually hold on

[2023-11-12T07:07:28Z] its in kiss-xorg right

[2023-11-12T07:07:31Z] <sad_plan> yep

[2023-11-12T07:07:32Z] kiss b tinyx

[2023-11-12T07:07:36Z] <sad_plan> yes

[2023-11-12T07:07:46Z] to launch it is Xfbdev?

[2023-11-12T07:07:56Z] <sad_plan> no, you gotta fix sx first

[2023-11-12T07:08:02Z] right

[2023-11-12T07:08:04Z] <sad_plan> you can use mine if id like instead

[2023-11-12T07:08:07Z] ill use yours yeah

[2023-11-12T07:08:20Z] <sad_plan> http://0x0.st/Hvi4.sh

[2023-11-12T07:08:25Z] <sad_plan> or fetch it in my repo

[2023-11-12T07:08:27Z] thanksies

[2023-11-12T07:09:06Z] doesnt seem like Mod4 works

[2023-11-12T07:09:10Z] <sad_plan> it doesnt

[2023-11-12T07:09:11Z] so i cant launch a terminal

[2023-11-12T07:09:13Z] why not?

[2023-11-12T07:09:21Z] <sad_plan> tinyx doesnt support it

[2023-11-12T07:09:47Z] well i like to have modkey

[2023-11-12T07:09:50Z] <sad_plan> its even been discussed at tinycorelinux's forums. its seems theyre rather annoyd by it aswell, but ive yet to see any fix for it..

[2023-11-12T07:10:04Z] <sad_plan> it would be alot more convinient. but ive learned to live without it

[2023-11-12T07:10:08Z] even XFree86 supported mod4

[2023-11-12T07:10:15Z] ill change it to alt and see if GLX works

[2023-11-12T07:10:17Z] <sad_plan> just like I dont have scrollback on my terminal

[2023-11-12T07:10:22Z] <sad_plan> yeah

[2023-11-12T07:10:43Z] sad_plan: i dont mean to be discourging, but you dont really deserve to live by these restrictions tbh

[2023-11-12T07:10:49Z] <sad_plan> hm, maybe some doofus removed it. seeings as xorg is a fork of Xfree86

[2023-11-12T07:10:58Z] <sad_plan> lol, wym?

[2023-11-12T07:11:10Z] idk you dont have to restrict yourself

[2023-11-12T07:11:50Z] <sad_plan> I dont, I just dont care for scrollback anymore, and Id rather have a statically linked tinyx, than having to deal with abi instabillty from time to time

[2023-11-12T07:12:11Z] <sad_plan> not that I have that issue too much, but its anoying when it happens

[2023-11-12T07:12:25Z] interestingly, tinyX supports EGL but not Vulkan or OpenGL

[2023-11-12T07:12:42Z] <sad_plan> huh. so no gaming for you on tinyx then :P

[2023-11-12T07:12:42Z] doesnt seem to support Xinerama or Xrandr though

[2023-11-12T07:13:01Z] <sad_plan> the performance would be horrendous anyway though

[2023-11-12T07:13:01Z] even mcf's tiny wayland compositor has bare bones multi monitor support though

[2023-11-12T07:13:10Z] Accidentally made my start wayland command shorthand as sway lmao

[2023-11-12T07:13:19Z] Fitting?

[2023-11-12T07:13:22Z] <sad_plan> tinyx doesnt afaik. its rather barebone

[2023-11-12T07:13:36Z] <sad_plan> which is fine by me, as I only use 1 monitor anyway

[2023-11-12T07:13:43Z] synimas: i named mine sw like sx

[2023-11-12T07:13:54Z] i see

[2023-11-12T07:14:10Z] I always used startx

[2023-11-12T07:14:13Z] do you run on a thinkpad?

[2023-11-12T07:14:19Z] Yeah

[2023-11-12T07:14:22Z] X270

[2023-11-12T07:14:30Z] booo

[2023-11-12T07:14:34Z] Is feh in any repos?

[2023-11-12T07:14:42Z] Lmao, you use a mac or sum?

[2023-11-12T07:14:45Z] <sad_plan> sx is leaner though. its just a small shell script

[2023-11-12T07:14:53Z] <sad_plan> feh is in kiss-xorg synimas

[2023-11-12T07:14:57Z] synimas: feh is in kiss-xorg, but for a wayland image viewer user soething like mpv or pqiv

[2023-11-12T07:15:03Z] or... god forbid imv

[2023-11-12T07:15:12Z] Oh i meant for setting wallpapers lol

[2023-11-12T07:15:12Z] sad_plan: what about you? what kind of thinkpad do you use?

[2023-11-12T07:15:15Z] synimas: use wbg

[2023-11-12T07:15:20Z] Thank you

[2023-11-12T07:15:21Z] or swaybg if youre using sway

[2023-11-12T07:15:27Z] <sad_plan> I dont have a thinkpad. I have an acer laptop

[2023-11-12T07:16:11Z] God everything takes so long to setup

[2023-11-12T07:16:22Z] <sad_plan> aside from that, I have an old desktop I built like 10 years ago

[2023-11-12T07:17:10Z] <sad_plan> synimas: no it doesnt. if you do things properly, you only have to set things up once. put everything in a kiss repo, and just build everything, and youre done :D even the kernel

[2023-11-12T07:17:12Z] There an updated list of kiss repos somewhere?

[2023-11-12T07:17:16Z] synimas: kiss-find

[2023-11-12T07:17:20Z] <sad_plan> ^

[2023-11-12T07:17:27Z] <sad_plan> its in community

[2023-11-12T07:17:31Z] I mean the initial setup

[2023-11-12T07:17:47Z] <sad_plan> well yeah, that takes time

[2023-11-12T07:18:00Z] it doesnt take time if you have dotfiles ready

[2023-11-12T07:18:07Z] but if you have a 10 year old machine then yes it will take forever!!!!

[2023-11-12T07:18:30Z] Gotta learn how to make a kiss repo

[2023-11-12T07:18:34Z] <sad_plan> its no faster than my shitty laptop tbqh sewn

[2023-11-12T07:18:49Z] <sad_plan> and my laptop is 5 years old now? i think

[2023-11-12T07:18:51Z] im still considering running kiss on my thinkpad, im scared it will explode

[2023-11-12T07:18:52Z] Then its on to taking learning c and cpp seriously

[2023-11-12T07:19:14Z] I bought an ax210 specifially for using linux without modules

[2023-11-12T07:19:27Z] The wifi card

[2023-11-12T07:19:38Z] <sad_plan> sewn: itll just take a really long time to build stuff. try a rpi instead if you love waiting for things to compile :p

[2023-11-12T07:19:55Z] i will just use distcc so i can offload the work to my pc

[2023-11-12T07:19:55Z] <sad_plan> would probably either not be able to, or take a month to build a whole system

[2023-11-12T07:19:59Z] Is crosscompiling from windows super gross?

[2023-11-12T07:20:04Z] <sad_plan> thats cheating

[2023-11-12T07:20:04Z] yes

[2023-11-12T07:20:05Z] absolutely

[2023-11-12T07:20:09Z] you are a criminal SCUM

[2023-11-12T07:20:10Z] Lmfao

[2023-11-12T07:20:22Z] Anyone have an irc relay that i can mooch off of?

[2023-11-12T07:20:26Z] you mean bouncer?

[2023-11-12T07:20:30Z] Yeah

[2023-11-12T07:20:38Z] Cant find a pubnix with one atm

[2023-11-12T07:20:40Z] well i know two free bouncers

[2023-11-12T07:20:56Z] one is a pubnix hosted on projectsegfau.lt but its somewhat unstable so i moved to pico.sh

[2023-11-12T07:21:07Z] pico.sh is also unstable but it goes back instantly

[2023-11-12T07:21:25Z] theres even sourcehut but you pay for it

[2023-11-12T07:21:44Z] Once i setup my repos with dwl and pfetch and shit it all should be unlimited right?

[2023-11-12T07:21:48Z] sure

[2023-11-12T07:21:52Z] Automatic i mean

[2023-11-12T07:22:00Z] kiss u && kiss U from then

[2023-11-12T07:22:01Z] Idk where unlimited came from

[2023-11-12T07:22:18Z] My end goal is minecraft

[2023-11-12T07:22:33Z] <sad_plan> wait, a free bouncer. that nice though

[2023-11-12T07:22:51Z] i wanted to donate to projectsegfault because i used their bouncer for some time

[2023-11-12T07:23:01Z] but they use liberapay and i dont want to make a one time payment

[2023-11-12T07:23:07Z] i mean, i want to, just not monthly

[2023-11-12T07:23:11Z] Im too lazy to check logs

[2023-11-12T07:23:11Z] <sad_plan> i get that

[2023-11-12T07:23:39Z] <sad_plan> I do check logs here, but #oasis dont have logs.. not that it has lots of activity though

[2023-11-12T07:23:48Z] theres always free bouncers

[2023-11-12T07:23:59Z] theres ZNC on envs.net (i use it for my matrix) but it was horrible to setup

[2023-11-12T07:24:15Z] Matrix pisses me off

[2023-11-12T07:24:18Z] Way too slow

[2023-11-12T07:24:22Z] depends on the homeserver

[2023-11-12T07:24:33Z] i stopped using matrix because the EMS libera bridge died

[2023-11-12T07:24:41Z] Even on my modern desktop its slow, but yes it does depend on the homeserver

[2023-11-12T07:24:42Z] <sad_plan> I see. didnt think there were any free bouncers. but now that I think about it, people offer alot of things for free so, why not bouncers aswell

[2023-11-12T07:25:01Z] Why use matrix when xmpp is the sams shit

[2023-11-12T07:25:05Z] Reinventing the wheel

[2023-11-12T07:25:29Z] i used matrix because of the irc bridge

[2023-11-12T07:25:33Z] setting up znc on your machine isn't difficult either, that's what I use as a bouncer

[2023-11-12T07:25:53Z] i cant use my irc client with it

[2023-11-12T07:26:30Z] <sad_plan> sewn: do you use the webclient for pico, or a terminal irc client?

[2023-11-12T07:26:35Z] i use senpai

[2023-11-12T07:26:42Z] senpai(1) forever

[2023-11-12T07:26:49Z] <sad_plan> catgirl forever bruh

[2023-11-12T07:26:58Z] ok fine ill try it

[2023-11-12T07:27:12Z] it only makes sense if im using pounce as the bouncer though

[2023-11-12T07:27:19Z] senpai was designed around soju

[2023-11-12T07:27:20Z] <sad_plan> lol. I wish it was a bit more customizable though. like irssi i.e

[2023-11-12T07:27:27Z] <sad_plan> I see

[2023-11-12T07:27:29Z] while catgirl wasnt really designed for-

[2023-11-12T07:27:35Z] <sad_plan> isnt senpai written in go or something?

[2023-11-12T07:27:37Z] >https://x0.at/lTvC.txt

[2023-11-12T07:27:50Z] sad_plan: yes, i like it for that reason too

[2023-11-12T07:28:14Z] <sad_plan> are you using netbsd-curses?

[2023-11-12T07:28:21Z] senpai doesnt need ncurses

[2023-11-12T07:28:24Z] <sad_plan> go build for me

[2023-11-12T07:28:30Z] it uses tcell and its own vendored tui code

[2023-11-12T07:28:36Z] <sad_plan> cool

[2023-11-12T07:28:42Z] see above log though, cant build catgirl

[2023-11-12T07:28:43Z] Bemenu doesnt have a pixel by pixel size modifacation lol

[2023-11-12T07:28:45Z] she doesnt like me

[2023-11-12T07:28:49Z] Just scale

[2023-11-12T07:29:04Z] <sad_plan> try the one in my repo. it has couple patches from oasis. so should build with netbsd-curses

[2023-11-12T07:29:26Z] <sad_plan> does for me anyway

[2023-11-12T07:29:31Z] oh yeah

[2023-11-12T07:29:38Z] kiss-dumpsterfire right?

[2023-11-12T07:29:42Z] <sad_plan> ye

[2023-11-12T07:30:09Z] Nvm i lied

[2023-11-12T07:30:23Z] sad_plan: https://x0.at/7FXL.txt

[2023-11-12T07:30:25Z] <sad_plan> didnt your momma teach you not to lie synimas

[2023-11-12T07:31:01Z] <sad_plan> ah, remove the static flag.

[2023-11-12T07:31:05Z] <sad_plan> as I build it statically linked

[2023-11-12T07:31:07Z] right lmao

[2023-11-12T07:31:13Z] No but she did tell me football was a mans game

[2023-11-12T07:31:18Z] <sad_plan> not sure how good openssl is for that

[2023-11-12T07:31:37Z] <sad_plan> synimas: does she not know theres womans football?

[2023-11-12T07:31:48Z] Shes dead

[2023-11-12T07:31:56Z] She doesnt know shit

[2023-11-12T07:32:05Z] <sad_plan> Im sorry to hear that

[2023-11-12T07:32:06Z] jeez man shes yo mom

[2023-11-12T07:32:12Z] <sad_plan> damn

[2023-11-12T07:32:37Z] sad_plan: this is gonna sound stupid but how on earth do i configure this

[2023-11-12T07:33:03Z] ./j

[2023-11-12T07:33:09Z] <sad_plan> it does have a configure file you can use, aside from that, it doesnt really need much

[2023-11-12T07:33:13Z] Prob shojldbe said ghG

[2023-11-12T07:33:18Z] God k cant type

[2023-11-12T07:33:18Z] are u good

[2023-11-12T07:33:47Z] <sad_plan> man catgirl will tell you about it sewn. you can also generate a token so youll autmatically be authenticated.

[2023-11-12T07:33:54Z] ah ok cool

[2023-11-12T07:34:09Z] no mouse support?

[2023-11-12T07:34:19Z] <sad_plan> ive never gotten it to work though. however im probably doing something wrong. never bothered to fix it again

[2023-11-12T07:34:22Z] <sad_plan> nah

[2023-11-12T07:34:22Z] hi

[2023-11-12T07:34:24Z] bye

[2023-11-12T07:34:36Z] didnt ask me much about configuration

[2023-11-12T07:34:41Z] needed to set a host though

[2023-11-12T07:34:51Z] <sad_plan> yeah, host is the only requirement

[2023-11-12T07:35:00Z] is there a sample config i can look after

[2023-11-12T07:35:20Z] oh right its there

[2023-11-12T07:35:24Z] the man page is really thorough

[2023-11-12T07:35:28Z] <sad_plan> yep

[2023-11-12T07:36:49Z] Is qutebrowser in a repo?

[2023-11-12T07:36:58Z] nope

[2023-11-12T07:37:02Z] Unfortunate

[2023-11-12T07:37:11Z] <sad_plan> doesnt that still only run on X? or has it been ported to wayland

[2023-11-12T07:37:11Z] its QT and rather massive

[2023-11-12T07:37:13Z] Any vim based browsers?

[2023-11-12T07:37:14Z] you could use webkit though

[2023-11-12T07:37:21Z] Like vimb

[2023-11-12T07:37:22Z] <sad_plan> surfer, if youre on wayland

[2023-11-12T07:37:22Z] synimas: theres uh

[2023-11-12T07:37:25Z] woah surfer??

[2023-11-12T07:37:35Z] Seems vimb is there

[2023-11-12T07:37:35Z] <sad_plan> or vimb, luakit, wyeb on X

[2023-11-12T07:37:40Z] oh right neosurf doesnt have wayland

[2023-11-12T07:37:51Z] <sad_plan> neosurf?

[2023-11-12T07:37:51Z] neosurf is netsurf but with vi interface (like netsurf-vi by ddevault)

[2023-11-12T07:37:53Z] Does vimb automagically go for wayland?

[2023-11-12T07:37:57Z] vimb is just electron

[2023-11-12T07:38:01Z] i think

[2023-11-12T07:38:02Z] <sad_plan> aaah, yeah thats the browser from cobaltlinux

[2023-11-12T07:38:06Z] <sad_plan> vimb is webkit

[2023-11-12T07:38:11Z] oh right vieb is the one with electron

[2023-11-12T07:38:14Z] <sad_plan> yes

[2023-11-12T07:38:20Z] honestly wasnt that great

[2023-11-12T07:38:26Z] Looks like vimb is in the xorg repo, does kt need xorg deps?

[2023-11-12T07:38:45Z] <sad_plan> it needs stuff from kiss-xorg, so kinda

[2023-11-12T07:38:57Z] sad_plan: sasl external 'cert' configuration is like automatic password login right?

[2023-11-12T07:39:15Z] <sad_plan> yes, thats atleast how I understand it

[2023-11-12T07:39:40Z] <sad_plan> but ive never gotten it to work. not sure why. lmk if you get it to work, and ill revisit it

[2023-11-12T07:42:04Z] its stuck on travelling thats for sure

[2023-11-12T07:42:11Z] might not work with soju

[2023-11-12T07:42:33Z] yep ok i cant use catgirl, sad

[2023-11-12T07:42:50Z] <sad_plan> sasl doesnt work?

[2023-11-12T07:42:55Z] no i just cant use my bouncer

[2023-11-12T07:43:02Z] <sad_plan> ah

[2023-11-12T07:43:35Z] according to the soju README, catgirl barely implements soju's features

[2023-11-12T07:43:46Z] and they explicitly said that supporting soju is a non goal

[2023-11-12T07:43:53Z] maybe when i have my own server ill setup pounce or something

[2023-11-12T07:43:54Z] <sad_plan> hm. I see

[2023-11-12T07:47:24Z] Can anyone spare a someblocks config?

[2023-11-12T07:47:30Z] synimas: use slstatus

[2023-11-12T07:47:43Z] someblocks is bleh

[2023-11-12T07:47:46Z] cpp

[2023-11-12T07:47:53Z] <sad_plan> no bar is best bar

[2023-11-12T07:47:54Z] Okay

[2023-11-12T07:48:06Z] sad_plan: i used to live with no bar for a long time on dwl

[2023-11-12T07:48:16Z] till i got bored and made my own bar

[2023-11-12T07:48:16Z] then realized how hard it was

[2023-11-12T07:48:34Z] because of the compositor only having the ability to communicate either via IPC or stdout

[2023-11-12T07:48:43Z] slstatus just worked out of the box though

[2023-11-12T07:48:54Z] you can use slstatus -s and then just have the bar read from it

[2023-11-12T07:49:09Z] Can slstatus run any command and display the output?

[2023-11-12T07:49:14Z] yes, read the config.h

[2023-11-12T07:49:15Z] <sad_plan> I see. Ive never bothered with it. I can see the aestetics with it, but I dont personally need it.

[2023-11-12T07:49:16Z] run_command

[2023-11-12T07:49:36Z] Ive got two batteries, id be convenient to see em both

[2023-11-12T07:49:40Z] Ah okah

[2023-11-12T07:49:55Z] You read and reply fast, whats your wpm?

[2023-11-12T07:50:02Z] <sad_plan> me?

[2023-11-12T07:50:09Z] sewn:

[2023-11-12T07:50:30Z] why does that matter?

[2023-11-12T07:50:36Z] It doesnt

[2023-11-12T07:50:37Z] skill matters more in this case

[2023-11-12T07:50:45Z] im not sure what my wpm is tho

[2023-11-12T07:51:12Z] Suprised suckless hasnt moved over to wayland

[2023-11-12T07:51:23Z] i have 134wpm

[2023-11-12T07:51:25Z] what about you sad_plan

[2023-11-12T07:51:29Z] <sad_plan> they seem to hate on wayland

[2023-11-12T07:51:30Z] St is the worst god damn terminal ever though

[2023-11-12T07:51:34Z] synimas: its hard to program for wayland

[2023-11-12T07:51:40Z] <sad_plan> I was just going to do a monkeytype and tell you

[2023-11-12T07:51:46Z] i disagree, foot is much better than st

[2023-11-12T07:51:53Z] although it lacks like ONE or TWO things bad

[2023-11-12T07:52:04Z] in terms of featureset, but in design st wins

[2023-11-12T07:52:09Z] Thats what i just said

[2023-11-12T07:52:12Z] like foot has tons of goodies

[2023-11-12T07:52:13Z] a

[2023-11-12T07:52:22Z] But why does st win design?

[2023-11-12T07:52:38Z] <sad_plan> sewn: uh, I got 88

[2023-11-12T07:52:44Z] Mines bad

[2023-11-12T07:52:49Z] I need to work on it

[2023-11-12T07:52:51Z] <sad_plan> I really like st

[2023-11-12T07:52:52Z] wpm doesnt matter guys

[2023-11-12T07:53:07Z] <sad_plan> I know. I personally think I type plenty fast enough

[2023-11-12T07:53:21Z] yeah i was a bit confused

[2023-11-12T07:53:26Z] My thumb typing is lacming in ghe accurate category

[2023-11-12T07:53:31Z] see that 134wpm i have? in reality i type pretty slow because of slow brain formulating thoughts

[2023-11-12T07:54:39Z] Yall know learncpp.com?

[2023-11-12T07:54:44Z] <sad_plan> no

[2023-11-12T07:54:46Z] no

[2023-11-12T07:54:55Z] <sad_plan> C>cpp

[2023-11-12T07:54:59Z] Ah damn, check it out then

[2023-11-12T07:55:05Z] But thats what i was gling to ask

[2023-11-12T07:55:15Z] If there was anything like that but for c

[2023-11-12T07:55:19Z] the C99 book

[2023-11-12T07:55:30Z] or something

[2023-11-12T07:55:43Z] me i learned C from writing suckless patches and small little programs

[2023-11-12T07:55:55Z] There a version thats been put into html form?

[2023-11-12T07:56:07Z] <sad_plan> theres tons of resources for learning C all around. udemy, codecademy, aswell as numerous books

[2023-11-12T07:56:37Z] AOC is coming up

[2023-11-12T07:56:44Z] woah ilt

[2023-11-12T07:56:46Z] Whats aoc

[2023-11-12T07:56:49Z] advent of code

[2023-11-12T07:56:52Z] Articles lf confed?

[2023-11-12T07:56:54Z] <sad_plan> there is https://www.learn-c.org/ though

[2023-11-12T07:56:56Z] Oh

[2023-11-12T07:57:17Z] time for rebranding

[2023-11-12T07:57:32Z] you got tired of people not writing your name correctly illiliti?

[2023-11-12T07:57:50Z] maybe

[2023-11-12T07:57:57Z] took me some time to memorize

[2023-11-12T07:58:21Z] Might link config.h to .config lol

[2023-11-12T07:58:24Z] wanted to take ill but it's taken already :(

[2023-11-12T07:58:25Z] you could also just switch one letter and boom, youre lit

[2023-11-12T07:59:18Z] What rss feeds do yall use for security information?

[2023-11-12T07:59:25Z] i dont use rss

[2023-11-12T07:59:26Z] Or mailing lists

[2023-11-12T07:59:57Z] i just follow phoronix every once in a while

[2023-11-12T08:09:17Z] sad_plan: nice CFLAGS

[2023-11-12T08:09:20Z] are they for like

[2023-11-12T08:09:21Z] optimizations?

[2023-11-12T08:09:55Z] <sad_plan> yeah more or less. smaller size, and faster binaries

[2023-11-12T08:10:01Z] can i copy

[2023-11-12T08:10:06Z] <sad_plan> sure

[2023-11-12T08:10:19Z] aweosme

[2023-11-12T08:10:20Z] <sad_plan> not sure how much effect they have though. never measured it

[2023-11-12T08:10:29Z] you should take a look at glaucus's cflags

[2023-11-12T08:11:02Z] https://github.com/glaucuslinux/radula/blob/main/tests/genome/test_radula_behave_flags_environment_x86_64.nim#L18

[2023-11-12T08:11:10Z] they have alot of stuff for optimization

[2023-11-12T08:11:16Z] <sad_plan> glacus is actually really interesting. as he has both speed, aswell as alot of securityflags. which I like.

[2023-11-12T08:11:23Z] firasuke made alot of work to make it very fast and very secure

[2023-11-12T08:11:56Z] <sad_plan> I made a file which lists aloot of compilerflags, aswell as their tldr. still needs alot of work though

[2023-11-12T08:56:52Z] I want to go to bed but some shit is building

[2023-11-12T08:57:05Z] Dumbass dilemma

[2023-11-12T08:57:28Z] Its been an hour and a half, build faster

[2023-11-12T09:07:18Z] what r u building synimas

[2023-11-12T18:29:35Z] sewn: some x dependency of vimb, not sure what

[2023-11-12T18:29:52Z] logs?

[2023-11-12T18:30:06Z] all you need is webkit and gtk

[2023-11-12T18:32:18Z] I was building it with kiss b

[2023-11-12T18:32:40Z] I can grab logs in maybe 20 minutes

[2023-11-12T19:08:44Z] Odd, i build it now and it doesnt need those deps lol

[2023-11-12T19:09:18Z] Made me go from 70 packages to 107 tho

[2023-11-12T19:09:41Z] Looks like webkitgtk was the package taking forever to build

[2023-11-12T19:09:46Z] yes fat

[2023-11-12T19:10:09Z] But also, me slow computer

[2023-11-12T19:12:36Z] Which repo should i use for up to date seatd?

[2023-11-12T19:12:48Z] Dilyn corner has seatd-git

[2023-11-12T19:15:30Z] synimas: what

[2023-11-12T19:15:33Z] juse use

[2023-11-12T19:15:34Z] libseat

[2023-11-12T20:46:28Z] Failed compile, http://0x0.st/HvXY.txt

[2023-11-12T20:47:45Z] ```[ 49%] Building CXX object Source/WebCore/CMakeFiles/WebCore.dir///WebCore/DerivedSources/unified-sources/UnifiedSource-5037b3e8-1.cpp.o

[2023-11-12T20:47:46Z] In file included from /home/synima/.cache/kiss/proc/2990/build/webkit2gtk/build/WebCore/DerivedSources/unified-sources/UnifiedSource-68aea4ac-20.cpp:6:

[2023-11-12T20:47:46Z] /home/synima/.cache/kiss/proc/2990/build/webkit2gtk/Source/WebCore/bindings/js/SerializedScriptValue.cpp: In member function 'bool WebCore::CloneSerializer::dumpIfTerminal(JSC::JSValue, WebCore::SerializationReturnCode&)':

[2023-11-12T20:47:46Z] /home/synima/.cache/kiss/proc/2990/build/webkit2gtk/Source/WebCore/bindings/js/SerializedScriptValue.cpp:1599:22: error: no matching function for call to 'WebCore::CloneSerializer::write(WebCore::SerializableErrorType)'

[2023-11-12T20:47:46Z] 1599 | write(errorNameToSerializableErrorType(errorTypeString));```

[2023-11-12T20:47:53Z] Oh, no formatting in irc

[2023-11-12T20:48:49Z] Ill ask in the webkitgtk irc channel

[2023-11-12T21:01:06Z] Maybe irccloud will be better for now

[2023-11-12T21:04:40Z] There a way to clear dependencies installed by a package?

[2023-11-12T21:04:46Z] Or clear depencies not used?

[2023-11-12T21:05:42Z] Dependencies*

[2023-11-12T21:36:19Z] Or can i do kiss r * and itll remove only what doesnt have dependencies? /j

[2023-11-12T22:30:11Z] Cant find anything in the docs that has a command like autoremove