[2023-07-27T00:26:26Z] ehawkvu: earlier you said in a kiss pull request that sbase xargs doesnt have -P right?

[2023-07-27T00:46:44Z] https://imgur.com/a/AvlmEyE how did i ALREADY mess up google returns no results pls help ty

[2023-07-27T00:47:43Z] you dont need to verify repositories

[2023-07-27T00:48:06Z] you can undo the checks and remove gnupg

[2023-07-27T00:49:20Z] i didnt install gnupg?

[2023-07-27T00:49:32Z] are you using kiss-community

[2023-07-27T00:49:33Z] i did the ssh thing from kiss-comm

[2023-07-27T00:49:34Z] repositories

[2023-07-27T00:49:34Z] yea

[2023-07-27T00:49:40Z] wdym ssh thing

[2023-07-27T00:49:59Z] what i meant to say is for you to disable signature verification

[2023-07-27T00:51:08Z] https://kisscommunity.org/kiss/install/#003 this ssh thing

[2023-07-27T00:51:15Z] :D

[2023-07-27T00:51:17Z] you dont need that, its optional

[2023-07-27T00:51:33Z] not to be stupid but how do i undo it

[2023-07-27T00:51:37Z] set to false

[2023-07-27T00:51:38Z] ?

[2023-07-27T00:51:45Z] <sad_plan> yes

[2023-07-27T00:51:51Z] thx love u both

[2023-07-27T02:27:02Z] hiya last troubleshoot why do i get this error when trying to build efivar, its half four in the morning i cant read properly https://0x0.st/HenF.txt

[2023-07-27T02:27:23Z] god damn it

[2023-07-27T02:27:38Z] you have to fork efivar and add the lfs64 patch

[2023-07-27T02:27:59Z] sewn me and u are gonna be best friends i jus know it !!!

[2023-07-27T02:28:37Z] give me a second

[2023-07-27T02:29:56Z] zlib: go into your repository directory /var/db/kiss/repo and run curl https://termbin.com/q11yf | patch -p1

[2023-07-27T02:30:28Z] <sad_plan> you forgot < nameofpatch after -p1

[2023-07-27T02:30:41Z] patch -p1 takes from stdin

[2023-07-27T02:30:50Z] when you do < the shell forwards the file to the program's input

[2023-07-27T02:30:50Z] <sad_plan> I was going to suggest that

[2023-07-27T02:30:54Z] <sad_plan> right

[2023-07-27T02:31:33Z] what i did here is put the repository lfs64 efivar patch into a snippet and have curl output it and patch take it as input and patch as normal really

[2023-07-27T02:31:34Z] i love shell

[2023-07-27T02:33:13Z] i dont think it worked hold on

[2023-07-27T02:33:19Z] oh no

[2023-07-27T02:33:28Z] <sad_plan> shell is great

[2023-07-27T02:33:32Z] oh bruh my bad i forgot to add the patch to git diff

[2023-07-27T02:34:47Z] go back into the dir and run git restore and use https://termbin.com/p1hqc as the patch url

[2023-07-27T02:37:06Z] it worked !!! tysm

[2023-07-27T04:52:24Z] <iceman[m]> hi there

[2023-07-27T04:52:35Z] hi there

[2023-07-27T04:52:41Z] can you sign my petition

[2023-07-27T04:52:43Z] <iceman[m]> how're you doing sewn

[2023-07-27T04:52:48Z] <iceman[m]> sewn[m]: what is it?

[2023-07-27T04:53:06Z] "Make Whiney Congressmen Play Violent Video Games."

[2023-07-27T04:53:56Z] would you please sign my petition

[2023-07-27T04:54:52Z] <iceman[m]> LOL

[2023-07-27T04:54:59Z] <iceman[m]> sewn[m]: where do i sign this kekw

[2023-07-27T04:55:35Z] * sewn uploaded an image: (1020KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/envs.net/628562fd61908c8a0a34e69935cb8913e8effd99/image.png >

[2023-07-27T06:12:46Z] * xdream8[m] uploaded an image: (91KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/ZKuSKYInozbHKfKCODrgBpnd/20230727_09h07m51s_grim.png >

[2023-07-27T06:13:05Z] WTF

[2023-07-27T06:13:08Z] that is AWESOME

[2023-07-27T06:13:36Z] <xdream8[m]> this is debug build, let me see the difference with optimized build

[2023-07-27T06:14:01Z] <xdream8[m]> benchmark script runs the same command 1000 times

[2023-07-27T06:17:36Z] xdream8[m]: use hyperfine...

[2023-07-27T06:28:49Z] * xdream8[m] uploaded an image: (96KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/tEIdVpsBfaVcdyIlKITggfRn/20230727_09h23m41s_grim.png >

[2023-07-27T06:29:09Z] <xdream8[m]> its 3 times faster

[2023-07-27T06:29:59Z] awesome

[2023-07-27T07:50:45Z] * xdream8[m] uploaded an image: (43KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/rpXzIWrjNmBfWwPRKtnvjQfn/20230727_10h45m46s_grim.png >

[2023-07-27T07:51:00Z] <xdream8[m]> i think i finally managed to fix pkg_remove_files function

[2023-07-27T07:51:55Z] <xdream8[m]> but i did not implement code for managing '/etc' files yet

[2023-07-27T08:55:25Z] <iceman[m]> does anyone know what package provides berkely socket implementation?

[2023-07-27T08:55:29Z] <iceman[m]> They're enabled in my kernel

[2023-07-27T08:55:42Z] get ready to disable them

[2023-07-27T08:57:59Z] <iceman[m]> sewn[m]: Lol why?

[2023-07-27T09:32:32Z] <iceman[m]> * ~~does anyone know what package provides berkely socket implementation?~~

[2023-07-27T09:32:36Z] <iceman[m]> * ~~They're enabled in my kernel~~

[2023-07-27T09:49:31Z] So i created a boot entry pointing to the grubx64.efi in the boot part of kiss, but it's just stuck: Loading Linux 6.4.6...

[2023-07-27T09:50:56Z] might wanna check your kernel configuration

[2023-07-27T09:51:21Z] yeah

[2023-07-27T09:52:07Z] ill compile it again, if it still doesn't work them it can be the baseinit itself or idk

[2023-07-27T09:52:22Z] the configuration is the same i dont think it would help

[2023-07-27T09:52:51Z] there's already countless people who have faced your issue here on the IRC, so check the archives

[2023-07-27T09:53:32Z] what do you mean by archives?

[2023-07-27T09:54:10Z] https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/kisslinux

[2023-07-27T10:44:31Z] <iceman[m]> what's would be the recommended size for a tempfs

[2023-07-27T10:44:39Z] <iceman[m]> I'm gonna switch from building packages on disk to in memory

[2023-07-27T10:44:49Z] <iceman[m]> im starting with the kernel

[2023-07-27T10:45:38Z] <iceman[m]> i have 32 gb ram and 16gb swap

[2023-07-27T11:00:18Z] that's plenty

[2023-07-27T11:29:48Z] <iceman[m]> "i have 32 gb ram and 16gb swap" <- same but with 32gb swap bacause 16gb swap isn't enough

[2023-07-27T11:29:59Z] <iceman[m]> "what's would be the recommended..." <- for me I'd say 6 minimum but 10 reccomended

[2023-07-27T11:30:45Z] <iceman[m]> im going with 32G lol

[2023-07-27T11:37:42Z] that is too much

[2023-07-27T11:38:07Z] only go for that if youre gonna build chromium

[2023-07-27T11:38:16Z] for me firefox, rust, llvm only needed 6

[2023-07-27T11:40:03Z] <iceman[m]> sewn[m]: its not like everything is gonna be permanently there

[2023-07-27T11:40:14Z] you're still gonna need it

[2023-07-27T11:40:26Z] let me try to build chromium with tmpfs of 8GB just to see

[2023-07-27T11:40:54Z] how do i use tmpfs as cache? just set the size and set KISS_TMPDIR to /tmp ?

[2023-07-27T11:42:15Z] <iceman[m]> sewn[m]: "it"?

[2023-07-27T11:44:35Z] <iceman[m]> im gonna compile clang, lets see what happens

[2023-07-27T11:44:39Z] <iceman[m]> 🤔

[2023-07-27T11:44:43Z] im gonna compile chromium

[2023-07-27T11:46:04Z] isn't chromium full of google spyware ?

[2023-07-27T11:46:30Z] ungoogled-chromium is chromium in repo

[2023-07-27T11:47:30Z] <iceman[m]> has testuser left this chat?

[2023-07-27T11:48:06Z] <iceman[m]> i cant seem to ping

[2023-07-27T11:48:07Z] no

[2023-07-27T11:48:07Z] join the matrix channel

[2023-07-27T11:48:18Z] testuser:

[2023-07-27T11:48:22Z] <iceman[m]> sewn[m]: i am in the matrix channel

[2023-07-27T11:48:34Z] #kisslinux:matrix.org

[2023-07-27T11:48:35Z] <iceman[m]> i wonder why he doesn't show up in my mentions list

[2023-07-27T11:48:36Z] <iceman[m]> @testuser

[2023-07-27T11:48:43Z] <iceman[m]> sewn[m]: bro tf u smokin

[2023-07-27T11:48:46Z] <iceman[m]> where do you think i am

[2023-07-27T11:48:51Z] <iceman[m]> oh wait

[2023-07-27T11:48:54Z] <iceman[m]> OH WAIT

[2023-07-27T11:48:55Z] lol

[2023-07-27T11:49:02Z] * iceman[m] uploaded an image: (10KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/envs.net/5ba50f2406c3a1c45cb423ef381cb4b10b674b9f/image.png >

[2023-07-27T11:49:04Z] <iceman[m]> so bad

[2023-07-27T11:49:25Z] i cant see that image on my end, it appears only on the irc side

[2023-07-27T11:49:37Z] btw apparently you need 12GB just for extracting chromium

[2023-07-27T11:49:50Z] <iceman[m]> sewn[m]: lmao

[2023-07-27T11:49:53Z] the source xz is from 1gb to 12gb

[2023-07-27T11:49:55Z] <iceman[m]> i dont use chroomium, only firefox

[2023-07-27T11:49:55Z] which is insaen

[2023-07-27T11:50:00Z] <iceman[m]> Oh shit

[2023-07-27T11:50:01Z] <iceman[m]> wait

[2023-07-27T11:50:06Z] <iceman[m]> did i get kicked from here?

[2023-07-27T11:50:11Z] <iceman[m]> wtf

[2023-07-27T11:50:12Z] see this is where it gets confusing

[2023-07-27T11:50:15Z] <iceman[m]> whats the other channel?

[2023-07-27T11:50:18Z] idk how this channel is bridged exactly

[2023-07-27T11:50:23Z] <iceman[m]> was I always chatting from there?

[2023-07-27T11:50:24Z] but you're on the same irc user

[2023-07-27T11:50:33Z] https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/kisslinux/2023-07-27

[2023-07-27T11:50:55Z] <iceman[m]> okay so

[2023-07-27T11:51:02Z] <iceman[m]> was I always here? and then got kicked?

[2023-07-27T11:51:04Z] dont ask me i dont know how this works

[2023-07-27T11:51:07Z] <iceman[m]> lol

[2023-07-27T11:51:20Z] <iceman[m]> iceman[m]: and then i randomly popped up in the other channel

[2023-07-27T11:51:30Z] <iceman[m]> do you remember when i asked where your profile picture was

[2023-07-27T11:51:33Z] <iceman[m]> and xdream as well

[2023-07-27T11:51:34Z] no

[2023-07-27T11:51:51Z] <iceman[m]> ok i think i asked why are you suddenly [m] users

[2023-07-27T11:52:00Z] <iceman[m]> and then someone told me the bridge was going down

[2023-07-27T11:52:04Z] that was me..

[2023-07-27T11:52:06Z] <iceman[m]> yep

[2023-07-27T11:52:15Z] im just someone :(

[2023-07-27T11:52:15Z] <iceman[m]> so, were you in that channel before?

[2023-07-27T11:52:19Z] <iceman[m]> sewn: :( noooooooooo

[2023-07-27T11:52:20Z] i was here

[2023-07-27T11:52:26Z] <iceman[m]> sewn: always?

[2023-07-27T11:52:41Z] no not always

[2023-07-27T11:52:57Z] <iceman[m]> were you previously in that old channel?

[2023-07-27T11:53:01Z] https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/kisslinux/2023-07-26#34660883;

[2023-07-27T11:53:06Z] iceman[m]: yes

[2023-07-27T11:53:06Z] <iceman[m]> cuz i distinctly remember a lot of members having profile pictures

[2023-07-27T11:53:20Z] <iceman[m]> and then suddenly many became [m] people with no profile pictures (aka bridge users)

[2023-07-27T11:53:27Z] <iceman[m]> and i was like what happened

[2023-07-27T11:53:34Z] 🐱

[2023-07-27T11:53:45Z] <iceman[m]> this is so confusing

[2023-07-27T11:53:52Z] <iceman[m]> is this a "new" channel?

[2023-07-27T11:53:57Z] we'll see what happens on july 30

[2023-07-27T11:53:59Z] <iceman[m]> did you leave the "old" channel?

[2023-07-27T11:54:07Z] i kicked myself out of it

[2023-07-27T11:54:10Z] <iceman[m]> oh

[2023-07-27T11:54:21Z] idk it took some fiddling to do, it fixed itself

[2023-07-27T11:54:23Z] i didn't appear on the IRC end once

[2023-07-27T11:55:04Z] <iceman[m]> @testuser so i think what im gonna take is take my kiss rootfs to Canada in my ssd, and then put it in new laptop, then use some livecd to make a kernel for that, and edit my /etc/fstab, and reinstall the bootloader

[2023-07-27T11:56:51Z] <iceman[m]> mm bun

[2023-07-27T11:56:51Z] <iceman[m]> yummy

[2023-07-27T11:57:52Z] <iceman[m]> ill see you on the otherside, updating my system after i installed kiss 😂

[2023-07-27T11:57:59Z] <iceman[m]> I love source based distributions

[2023-07-27T11:58:03Z] <iceman[m]> nothing ever breaks

[2023-07-27T11:58:06Z] genchu

[2023-07-27T11:58:39Z] <iceman[m]> ill be off now

[2023-07-27T11:59:03Z] when will you be turned on

[2023-07-27T11:59:11Z] no i dont mean that in the

[2023-07-27T11:59:16Z] ok whatever that was a horrible mistake

[2023-07-27T11:59:55Z] I am restricted to cli apps, anyways, as I cannot stand wayland

[2023-07-27T12:00:13Z] what about xorg

[2023-07-27T12:00:36Z] hasn't xorg been kicked from kiss in 2021?

[2023-07-27T12:00:44Z] kiss-xorg :3

[2023-07-27T12:04:28Z] <iceman[m]> "when will you be turned on" <- i am on

[2023-07-27T12:04:29Z] <iceman[m]> mobile

[2023-07-27T12:04:39Z] i see

[2023-07-27T12:04:49Z] damn you got kicked

[2023-07-27T12:05:39Z] <iceman[m]> sewn: yea

[2023-07-27T12:05:41Z] <iceman[m]> i left old channel

[2023-07-27T12:05:47Z] <iceman[m]> got kicked from both

[2023-07-27T12:05:52Z] <iceman[m]> bot smokin

[2023-07-27T12:06:00Z] its smoking ice

[2023-07-27T12:06:17Z] <iceman[m]> 😳

[2023-07-27T12:06:26Z] <iceman[m]> i have nodejs to compile as well lmao

[2023-07-27T12:06:32Z] <iceman[m]> i hope 48 gigs is enough :trolol:

[2023-07-27T12:06:50Z] <iceman[m]> i have htop opened in another terminal

[2023-07-27T12:06:54Z] <iceman[m]> current ram usage is 345M

[2023-07-27T12:07:11Z] i tried to compile chromium but the build is broken so

[2023-07-27T12:07:19Z] <iceman[m]> F

[2023-07-27T12:07:32Z] iceman[m]: 6 is plenty i said

[2023-07-27T12:07:35Z] <iceman[m]> sewn: you created an issue about the lfs64 right

[2023-07-27T12:07:40Z] just for nodejs, llvm, firefox and such

[2023-07-27T12:07:41Z] iceman[m]: no its another thing

[2023-07-27T12:07:50Z] <iceman[m]> * In reply to @sewn:envs.net

[2023-07-27T12:07:50Z] <iceman[m]> i tried to compile chromium but the build is broken so

[2023-07-27T12:07:50Z] <iceman[m]> you created an issue about the lfs64 patch right

[2023-07-27T12:07:51Z] chromium doesnt need lfs64, but rust does and thats significantly more important

[2023-07-27T12:07:54Z] <iceman[m]> oh explane

[2023-07-27T12:07:57Z] no one here can build rust with rust

[2023-07-27T12:07:57Z] <iceman[m]> what is it

[2023-07-27T12:08:00Z] s/with/without/

[2023-07-27T12:08:11Z] <iceman[m]> i just use rustup

[2023-07-27T12:08:15Z] <iceman[m]> i dont want the headache

[2023-07-27T12:08:21Z] its not packaged

[2023-07-27T12:08:38Z] <iceman[m]> sewn: who said I needed it packages :chad:

[2023-07-27T12:08:42Z] <iceman[m]> * In reply to @sewn:envs.net

[2023-07-27T12:08:42Z] <iceman[m]> its not packaged

[2023-07-27T12:08:42Z] <iceman[m]> who said I needed it packaged :chad:

[2023-07-27T12:08:56Z] <iceman[m]> * In reply to sewn

[2023-07-27T12:08:56Z] <iceman[m]> its not packaged

[2023-07-27T12:08:56Z] <iceman[m]> who said I needed it packaged :chad:

[2023-07-27T12:09:00Z] <xdream8[m]> sewn: i have both binary and source package in my repo

[2023-07-27T12:09:02Z] <iceman[m]> * In reply to sewn

[2023-07-27T12:09:02Z] <iceman[m]> its not packaged

[2023-07-27T12:09:02Z] <iceman[m]> who said I needed it packaged :chad:

[2023-07-27T12:09:16Z] iceman[m]: > <@iceman:envs.net> In reply to sewn... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/d50ec783e4e013dd9bf4abbdfea990587e6027d2)

[2023-07-27T12:09:21Z] <iceman[m]> i only keep a few packages in my repo

[2023-07-27T12:09:34Z] <iceman[m]> are those stickers? sewn:

[2023-07-27T12:10:08Z] hey cool i can build chromium

[2023-07-27T12:10:14Z] <iceman[m]> xdream8: hello!

[2023-07-27T12:10:29Z] <iceman[m]> what are you working on these days?

[2023-07-27T12:10:38Z] <iceman[m]> excluding kiss-rs

[2023-07-27T12:11:00Z] <xdream8[m]> i will implement 'replaces' feature when i am done implementing other features. its really problematic when you want to replace a package like ncurses. you have to fork all packages that depends on them and change ncurses dep

[2023-07-27T12:11:46Z] <xdream8[m]> iceman[m]: i was working on a service manager but i am only working on kiss-rs right now because i want to finish and use it soon as possible

[2023-07-27T12:12:41Z] <iceman[m]> oh okay

[2023-07-27T12:12:58Z] blazing fast

[2023-07-27T12:15:14Z] * xdream8[m] uploaded an image: (43KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/JtCQZUiaIQGbAOeqIuHCATLS/20230727_15h10m07s_grim.png >

[2023-07-27T12:15:24Z] ah, kiss-xorg .. I would still need to install a keyboard-only windows manager from upstream sources, but I've had to do that before. window managers can be easily installed per user.

[2023-07-27T12:15:43Z] <xdream8[m]> kiss-install is almost finished. the only thing left is improving pkg_conflicts function to register alternatives correctly

[2023-07-27T12:16:06Z] <iceman[m]> I was going to work on my tftp implementation but decided to update my system

[2023-07-27T12:16:12Z] <iceman[m]> xdream8[m]: I see

[2023-07-27T12:16:16Z] <iceman[m]> iceman[m]: in C++ btw

[2023-07-27T12:16:24Z] <iceman[m]> i hope you're annoyed :troll:

[2023-07-27T12:16:57Z] 😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😱😱😱😱😱😱

[2023-07-27T12:17:04Z] xdream8[m]: do you have setuid on kiss-install or expect it to be run under sudo etc ?

[2023-07-27T12:17:08Z] <xdream8[m]> iceman[m]: a little

[2023-07-27T12:17:25Z] <iceman[m]> i'm in desperate need of emojis

[2023-07-27T12:17:37Z] how does kiss-install know which user's cache to look into for tarballs

[2023-07-27T12:17:49Z] <xdream8[m]> phoebos: i did not decide that yet but setuid would be better

[2023-07-27T12:19:03Z] <iceman[m]> xdream8[m]: its okay, i just wanted to know that you're not like other Rust users who insert rust into everything

[2023-07-27T12:19:24Z] <iceman[m]> just use what you want/like

[2023-07-27T12:19:52Z] I understand you're moving kiss's env vars to flags, but I don't see a flag for XDG_CACHE_HOME

[2023-07-27T12:22:24Z] such as linus torvalds who inserts rust into the kernel?

[2023-07-27T12:23:24Z] <xdream8[m]> "how does kiss-install know which..." <- it uses "$XDG_CACHE_HOME" env variable for now i will switch to flag approach eventually but i will still continue supporting some of the env variables but flags wil be the main priority

[2023-07-27T12:23:42Z] <iceman[m]> going full qemu

[2023-07-27T12:23:45Z] <iceman[m]> ahh

[2023-07-27T12:24:46Z] <iceman[m]> llvm time

[2023-07-27T12:25:16Z] im still trying to build chromium in a tmpfs

[2023-07-27T12:25:44Z] because for some odd reason one cant run bootstrap.py under tmpfs but is fine under cache

[2023-07-27T12:28:35Z] <sad_plan> hi

[2023-07-27T12:28:46Z] hi sad_plan

[2023-07-27T12:29:41Z] ah setuid preserves environment

[2023-07-27T12:29:42Z] nice

[2023-07-27T12:41:26Z] is ioraff not in this irc channel?

[2023-07-27T12:45:32Z] <sad_plan> nope

[2023-07-27T13:23:05Z] <iceman[m]> hi sad_plan

[2023-07-27T13:31:44Z] hi everyone

[2023-07-27T13:35:17Z] hello everynyan

[2023-07-27T13:35:44Z] <sad_plan> hi mako2

[2023-07-27T13:44:07Z] I think i fixed the efi thing in my kiss, efibootmgr shows results now and the kiss bootloader id stays there after reboots

[2023-07-27T13:45:22Z] nice

[2023-07-27T13:45:27Z] the problem is the kernel i compiled, tested it on void and did the same stuff, stuck at loading the kernel

[2023-07-27T13:45:41Z] you can use only efibootmgr, or no bootloader at all btw

[2023-07-27T13:45:53Z] so its my stupid brain that cant figure out how to make a kernel work

[2023-07-27T13:46:45Z] yeah but i cant figure out how to do uefi without grub

[2023-07-27T13:47:16Z] you can use efibootmgr

[2023-07-27T13:47:20Z] or noone

[2023-07-27T13:48:06Z] i see

[2023-07-27T13:48:42Z] <sad_plan> sewn you can use only the kernel aswell. no grub, no efibootmgr. nothing. just the kernel

[2023-07-27T13:49:19Z] <sad_plan> just look up efistub

[2023-07-27T13:49:36Z] <sad_plan> requires uefi though

[2023-07-27T13:57:15Z] how in the world do u start xorg theres like a million problems

[2023-07-27T13:57:24Z] i dont even know where to start to trouble shoot

[2023-07-27T14:00:12Z] <sad_plan> "sewn you can use only the kernel..." <- thats why i said none

[2023-07-27T14:00:13Z] i use that method myself

[2023-07-27T14:00:17Z] zlib: logs

[2023-07-27T14:00:31Z] which logs do u want ive gotten about 20 different ones

[2023-07-27T14:00:34Z] xorg tells you where the log is, usually .local/share/Xorg/xorg.0.log of some sort

[2023-07-27T14:00:47Z] the latest one

[2023-07-27T14:00:58Z] <sad_plan> nice to see others use that too.

[2023-07-27T14:01:51Z] https://0x0.st/Heh-.0.log

[2023-07-27T14:01:58Z] heh

[2023-07-27T14:01:59Z] this is if i run startx, logged in as root

[2023-07-27T14:02:31Z] run it as user..

[2023-07-27T14:02:43Z] <sad_plan> ^

[2023-07-27T14:02:47Z] it wont change much but thats how you should be using xorg

[2023-07-27T14:03:51Z] https://0x0.st/Heho.0.log

[2023-07-27T14:04:25Z] are you running mdev?

[2023-07-27T14:04:28Z] ln -s /etc/sv/mdev /var/service

[2023-07-27T14:04:33Z] and add yourself to the video input audio tty groups

[2023-07-27T14:06:25Z] okay

[2023-07-27T14:06:27Z] progress

[2023-07-27T14:07:37Z] it says /home/kiss/.xinitrc exec sowm permission denied

[2023-07-27T14:07:45Z] which tbf doas wont work for me either

[2023-07-27T14:07:53Z] idk why cus i know i set it up right

[2023-07-27T14:08:22Z] zlib: what

[2023-07-27T14:08:31Z] on earth

[2023-07-27T14:08:43Z] jus let me screenshot i cant curl it

[2023-07-27T14:08:44Z] sec

[2023-07-27T14:08:46Z] xx

[2023-07-27T14:08:47Z] <xdream8[m]> "i use that method myself" <- i used syslinux for my thinkpad

[2023-07-27T14:08:56Z] stat /usr/bin/sowm what is the resulting access number

[2023-07-27T14:08:56Z] https://imgur.com/a/FNRqQNy

[2023-07-27T14:09:12Z] it should be 0755

[2023-07-27T14:09:14Z] xdream8[m]: my thinkpad has uefi support

[2023-07-27T14:09:39Z] ah

[2023-07-27T14:09:46Z] https://imgur.com/a/KPLYSex

[2023-07-27T14:10:03Z] well thats... weird

[2023-07-27T14:10:20Z] lol Sex is at the end haha

[2023-07-27T14:11:57Z] zlib: sowm is in /usr/local/bin/sowm correct?

[2023-07-27T14:12:50Z] if i say no are u gonna be mad at me

[2023-07-27T14:13:06Z] no im gonna explode

[2023-07-27T14:13:12Z] cuz it means your file system probably is broken

[2023-07-27T14:13:27Z] u wanna know whats really funny

[2023-07-27T14:13:43Z] 'permission denied' on a 0755 file shouldnt happen, and would if the directory cant be read by the user, aka /usr/bin of some sort

[2023-07-27T14:13:44Z] cant cd to /usr/local: no such file or directory

[2023-07-27T14:13:50Z] yeah that

[2023-07-27T14:13:51Z] Thats

[2023-07-27T14:13:54Z] What the fuck

[2023-07-27T14:14:00Z] then where is

[2023-07-27T14:14:02Z] everything

[2023-07-27T14:14:03Z] HAHA

[2023-07-27T14:14:07Z] kiss community tarball right..?

[2023-07-27T14:14:13Z] yea

[2023-07-27T14:14:20Z] using xorg and community repos too

[2023-07-27T14:14:24Z] for what it matters

[2023-07-27T14:15:17Z] kiss b baselayout

[2023-07-27T14:15:19Z] maybe this would help

[2023-07-27T14:15:28Z] D NO

[2023-07-27T14:15:31Z] DO NOT RUN THAT

[2023-07-27T14:15:44Z] ur lucky !!! i type slow

[2023-07-27T14:16:06Z] okay just

[2023-07-27T14:16:26Z] can you su?

[2023-07-27T14:16:32Z] i can su

[2023-07-27T14:16:34Z] just not doas

[2023-07-27T14:17:18Z] you shouldnt be able to su lol

[2023-07-27T14:18:32Z] for now, chmod 0755 /usr/bin and chmod -R 0755 /usr/local

[2023-07-27T14:18:51Z] try to check for any other abnormalities in your file system cuz idk how that fucked up

[2023-07-27T14:22:58Z] oke i messed around a bit and now i get a different error

[2023-07-27T14:23:02Z] https://imgur.com/a/9OfhgSU

[2023-07-27T14:23:06Z] https://0x0.st/Heha.0.log

[2023-07-27T14:23:26Z] are you in the groups

[2023-07-27T14:23:26Z] and mdev is running

[2023-07-27T14:23:28Z] very sorry to whomever owns 0x0 btw !!! am abusing ur website

[2023-07-27T14:23:29Z] yea

[2023-07-27T14:24:21Z] zlib: you can use x0 or termbin.com

[2023-07-27T14:24:33Z] zlib: groups is kiss tty audio video input

[2023-07-27T14:24:34Z] ?

[2023-07-27T14:25:06Z] oh

[2023-07-27T14:25:16Z] i reran it again n now we're jus back at the start

[2023-07-27T14:25:56Z] nvm no we're not i was root

[2023-07-27T14:25:59Z] still where we were x

[2023-07-27T14:26:10Z] yuherdgberafgzuiohjkdfgzbuiohkladfzuohj;etsdyuiohwerta789yioyuiohwrsfg8yihwrsfgyiwrsfg7yh79yuio7yuhwrsfgxyuhwrasfg7ywrasfg7ywrsfgawrazgrwa7yurwa478g234qwz7gby4wr28i9g24qwr84rg6y789uwrg47wery789qtyr4127ygyq2hgt47uhygfu7rfgbhygg7wrag7wrqgy72w g 7yqrgqr7y 7yq7yrweygqwra9gaebewu7gbrfwyh79uqrg8y\90w80y\wry80ry\y248ryy\24wa24r

[2023-07-27T14:26:37Z] exactly

[2023-07-27T14:28:10Z] AHA

[2023-07-27T14:28:13Z] i found it

[2023-07-27T14:28:24Z] found wut

[2023-07-27T14:28:28Z] someone said reinstall xorg server so i did and got a curl error 6

[2023-07-27T14:28:35Z] idk what that is i was too excited to tell u

[2023-07-27T14:28:49Z] wwwwwwwwwwhat

[2023-07-27T14:29:08Z] is your dns good

[2023-07-27T14:29:55Z] nvm i ran it again and its doing it

[2023-07-27T14:30:00Z] well its doing something

[2023-07-27T14:32:06Z] <oak[m]> zlib: i sometimes have that

[2023-07-27T14:32:46Z] zlib meet oak

[2023-07-27T14:32:46Z] <oak[m]> with downloading shit from x.org

[2023-07-27T14:33:39Z] oak my saviour

[2023-07-27T14:33:59Z] https://imgur.com/a/HiOjShP

[2023-07-27T14:34:02Z] both of you are the same so i doubt that

[2023-07-27T14:34:06Z] could cry and im gonna cry

[2023-07-27T14:34:29Z] is your doas.conf just 'permit nopass kiss as root'

[2023-07-27T14:34:32Z] i suggest doing that

[2023-07-27T14:35:15Z] <sad_plan> using doas with kiss is so combersome really. using ssu is better. so you dont have to type in your password a bajillion times

[2023-07-27T14:35:45Z] if it fails after all this again ill make u cry too

[2023-07-27T14:35:47Z] both of u

[2023-07-27T14:35:49Z] all of u !!!

[2023-07-27T14:36:06Z] i used to use ssu myself, but switched to doas because i didn't want to fiddle with ssu needing yet another group

[2023-07-27T14:36:25Z] i think sad_plan is used to it

[2023-07-27T14:37:03Z] <oak[m]> sewn[m]: ssu just works for me

[2023-07-27T14:37:18Z] <oak[m]> well i need to be in the wheel group

[2023-07-27T14:38:06Z] <sad_plan> i use ssu. just add yourself to wheel group and you should be done

[2023-07-27T14:38:25Z] <oak[m]> yeah i use ssu too

[2023-07-27T14:38:31Z] grrrrr another group arghhh

[2023-07-27T14:38:46Z] if wheel is POSIX ill use it

[2023-07-27T14:38:49Z] <oak[m]> grrr another file arghhh

[2023-07-27T14:39:05Z] another line*

[2023-07-27T14:39:41Z] <sad_plan> I was going to say that oasis has wheel group, so its probably fine, buut no. it does not

[2023-07-27T14:39:49Z] <sad_plan> you can permit your own group instead though

[2023-07-27T14:39:50Z] heh

[2023-07-27T14:39:54Z] <sad_plan> the users group

[2023-07-27T14:40:01Z] https://imgur.com/a/Yybf2Zc

[2023-07-27T14:40:07Z] thats what i did, i forked ssu and modified post-install to use my group

[2023-07-27T14:40:10Z] i dont get why it doesnt use $USER tho

[2023-07-27T14:40:23Z] <sad_plan> I dunno

[2023-07-27T14:40:30Z] <oak[m]> zlib: groups

[2023-07-27T14:40:35Z] <oak[m]> are you in the video group

[2023-07-27T14:40:40Z] <oak[m]> i recommend using sx instead of startx too

[2023-07-27T14:40:44Z] i swear to god if one more of u tell me groups

[2023-07-27T14:40:48Z] i will scream

[2023-07-27T14:40:49Z] zlib: stat /dev/tty

[2023-07-27T14:40:49Z] 1

[2023-07-27T14:40:53Z] stat /dev/tty1

[2023-07-27T14:41:01Z] <sad_plan> add yourself to root group

[2023-07-27T14:41:07Z] <sad_plan> zlib:

[2023-07-27T14:41:17Z] thats just becoming superuser with extra steps

[2023-07-27T14:41:21Z] <sad_plan> yep

[2023-07-27T14:41:29Z] why would you want that

[2023-07-27T14:41:37Z] https://imgur.com/a/ay4ivkR

[2023-07-27T14:41:38Z] <sad_plan> would dont, I was just joking

[2023-07-27T14:41:45Z] i literally added myself to it !!! like three times

[2023-07-27T14:41:51Z] zlib: mdev isnt running

[2023-07-27T14:41:55Z] <sad_plan> its abit like sudo su really

[2023-07-27T14:41:56Z] u n me

[2023-07-27T14:41:59Z] are gonna fall out

[2023-07-27T14:42:03Z] ln -s /etc/sv/mdev /var/service

[2023-07-27T14:42:26Z] it says

[2023-07-27T14:42:29Z] file exists

[2023-07-27T14:42:31Z] just remove it ?

[2023-07-27T14:42:44Z] <sad_plan> check whats there. I think you need the last /

[2023-07-27T14:42:51Z] <sad_plan> else youll symlink to service dir

[2023-07-27T14:43:01Z] <sad_plan> like the actuall dir, not inside it

[2023-07-27T14:43:13Z] sv s mdev

[2023-07-27T14:43:21Z] <oak[m]> zlib: nope

[2023-07-27T14:43:26Z] <oak[m]> no need

[2023-07-27T14:43:32Z] <oak[m]> if its already tehre

[2023-07-27T14:43:37Z] run as superuser if necessary

[2023-07-27T14:43:38Z] <sad_plan> does runit accept s flag? instead of start or up?

[2023-07-27T14:44:01Z] what?

[2023-07-27T14:44:07Z] <sad_plan> sv s $serv

[2023-07-27T14:44:10Z] ive just been told like 4 different things

[2023-07-27T14:44:13Z] <sad_plan> instead of sv up $serv

[2023-07-27T14:44:19Z] sv s mdev returns pid 142

[2023-07-27T14:44:26Z] <sad_plan> hm, so it does

[2023-07-27T14:44:40Z] <sad_plan> I dont use runit, so I couldnt check really

[2023-07-27T14:45:14Z] just reboot

[2023-07-27T14:45:15Z] jeez

[2023-07-27T14:45:26Z] i think ur vm hates u zlib

[2023-07-27T14:45:48Z] i only wanted to try it in a vm so i could be used to it when i do it on my lapto

[2023-07-27T14:45:50Z] p

[2023-07-27T14:45:58Z] but i guess ill jus go straight for it

[2023-07-27T14:46:25Z] okay im back to the exec sowm permission denied thingy again

[2023-07-27T14:46:46Z] <sad_plan> chmod 0755 /bin/sowm

[2023-07-27T14:47:13Z] <sad_plan> as root, obviously

[2023-07-27T14:47:20Z] now it doesnt even give me an error

[2023-07-27T14:47:27Z] sad_plan: sowm is 0755

[2023-07-27T14:47:27Z] it jus boots then kicks me out to the tty

[2023-07-27T14:47:36Z] his filesystem is weird

[2023-07-27T14:47:46Z] his ??? behave

[2023-07-27T14:47:52Z] <sad_plan> hm, do you have xf86-input-libinput?

[2023-07-27T14:47:57Z] also my log file is exactly the same

[2023-07-27T14:47:58Z] yea

[2023-07-27T14:47:59Z] i do

[2023-07-27T14:48:08Z] so weird

[2023-07-27T14:48:17Z] i can rebuild it

[2023-07-27T14:48:18Z] sec

[2023-07-27T14:48:32Z] rebuilding wont help that much

[2023-07-27T14:48:47Z] yea

[2023-07-27T14:48:48Z] no

[2023-07-27T14:48:49Z] same thing

[2023-07-27T14:49:43Z] <oak[m]> ls -l /dev/tty1

[2023-07-27T14:50:03Z] <oak[m]> are you in the tty group? @zlib:libera.chat

[2023-07-27T14:50:14Z] yea

[2023-07-27T14:50:54Z] <sad_plan> have you tried another wm? like xwm or some shit

[2023-07-27T14:51:19Z] <sad_plan> to rule out sowm

[2023-07-27T14:51:28Z] also, can you try showing the output of ls -l / /usr ?

[2023-07-27T14:51:31Z] sad_plan: or dwm

[2023-07-27T14:51:38Z] dwm my belovede

[2023-07-27T14:51:59Z] <sad_plan> what you also can do is try to launch x without a window manager. but you have to have a way to start a terminal or something

[2023-07-27T14:52:13Z] <sad_plan> exec sxhkd i.e. in you xinitrc should suffice

[2023-07-27T14:52:25Z] <oak[m]> plain startx should be x and like 3 xterms

[2023-07-27T14:52:53Z] ^ without a .xinitrc

[2023-07-27T14:52:59Z] im gonna try redoing x and then what sad said

[2023-07-27T14:53:04Z] will see u in 5 mins love u x

[2023-07-27T14:53:26Z] <sad_plan> you can also just use sx instead, its simpler. sometimes I couldnt get x to start with xinit, but sx worked. and vice versa. sx doesnt give too much feedback though

[2023-07-27T14:53:55Z] <oak[m]> yeah said the same thing earlier

[2023-07-27T15:09:51Z] I DID IT

[2023-07-27T15:09:55Z] im so fucking clever

[2023-07-27T15:09:56Z] oh my god

[2023-07-27T15:10:11Z] how did you fix it!??!

[2023-07-27T15:10:41Z] i have no idea

[2023-07-27T15:11:11Z] i reinstalled everything x, added myself to groups again, tried to use sx but needed rc so used start and it booted twm

[2023-07-27T16:52:54Z] * xdream8[m] uploaded an image: (33KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/gGaEWVVnjYLbNDtoqSmfKRij/20230727_19h44m22s_grim.png >

[2023-07-27T16:56:23Z] https://0x0.st/HeF2.png

[2023-07-27T16:56:38Z] thanks everybody for helping !!! will see u in two weeks when i struggle to do it for real

[2023-07-27T16:57:28Z] <xdream8[m]> xdream8[m]: i almost finished converting commands to binaries. only kiss-manifest is missing a cli.

[2023-07-27T19:38:34Z] sewn: sewn? are you there

[2023-07-27T20:22:56Z] * iceman[m] uploaded an image: (305KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/envs.net/0dba72acdc0e4507c312736675ad2474c9ed4dca/Screenshot_20230728_010955.png >

[2023-07-27T20:23:00Z] <iceman[m]> was bored so themed my install

[2023-07-27T20:23:17Z] <iceman[m]> this is an actual attempt at themeing my installation ever since I installed KISS

[2023-07-27T20:38:02Z] hiya really specific question how do i source .profile every time i open a terminal

[2023-07-27T20:38:15Z] on openbsd i put export ENV=~/.profile into xsession

[2023-07-27T20:38:18Z] but that doesnt work here

[2023-07-27T21:48:25Z] https://0x0.st/H2rd.txt also !!! getting this error while trying to build gpgme, nothing on google anywhere

[2023-07-27T22:28:35Z] I don't know why my compiled kernels come hanging or freezing on boot

[2023-07-27T22:29:42Z] some people can even boot it up without touching the .config file

[2023-07-27T22:31:33Z] <depressed_pigeon> "hiya really specific question..." <- Its sourced on boot, when the first shell is started

[2023-07-27T22:32:23Z] <depressed_pigeon> If you make any changes after that, you need to source it again in that terminal, to take effect

[2023-07-27T22:33:13Z] yea no it doesnt save in a new terminal

[2023-07-27T22:33:50Z] <depressed_pigeon> You have to source it again i new terminals, because your original shell doesnt have those changes

[2023-07-27T22:34:00Z] <depressed_pigeon> Log out and then in again

[2023-07-27T22:34:22Z] <depressed_pigeon> Or go to tty, source it and then start x again

[2023-07-27T22:34:59Z] fine but if im right u owe me a coke

[2023-07-27T22:36:03Z] alright fair enough

[2023-07-27T22:36:12Z] but on openbsd ihad to source it myself

[2023-07-27T22:36:13Z] <depressed_pigeon> Exacly