[2022-12-04T02:20:59Z] well, I have something approximating a start to an abstraction library working

[2022-12-04T02:21:38Z] currently includes a SimpleMenu creation convenience routine and a tool bar creation routine that expects efalk's widgets to be available

[2022-12-04T02:23:20Z] dump a triplet of a name, a callback and data N times to XawMakeSimpleMenu and you get a menu widget back that includes those entries, and XawVaCreateSimpleMenuBar accepts triplets of a name, a menu, and a Widget pointer, and returns a pointer to a toplevel Frame widget containing all children, with individual buttons stored in the widget pointers passed

[2022-12-04T02:23:44Z] the toolbar routine also automatically includes a spacer to ensure the final button is on the right hand side of the toolbar

[2022-12-04T02:43:15Z] <wael[m]> Hi

[2022-12-04T02:46:38Z] Hey wael[m]

[2022-12-04T02:46:52Z] wael[m]: midfavila is almost ready with his Xorg lib work.

[2022-12-04T02:47:10Z] i wouldn't say almost ready

[2022-12-04T02:47:23Z] but i'm making good progress on the mockup

[2022-12-04T02:47:36Z] Nearing almost ready.

[2022-12-04T02:47:57Z] let's go with that :p

[2022-12-04T02:48:06Z] =D

[2022-12-04T02:48:23Z] i'll push the source tree in a second here so you can all laugh at it

[2022-12-04T02:48:41Z] it's mostly just me screwing around with Xaw and Xt trying to figure shit out rn ngl

[2022-12-04T02:53:39Z] https://git.sdf.org/midfavila/XIrc

[2022-12-04T02:53:52Z] caveat emptor and all that

[2022-12-04T02:54:48Z] reminds me that i need to rewrite libXawPlus' buildfile to not be completely ass

[2022-12-04T02:54:57Z] this is what using ed at 3am does to a mf

[2022-12-04T02:55:27Z] anyway, i'm going to bed

[2022-12-04T02:55:39Z] U've gotta quite the unique indentation style.

[2022-12-04T02:55:52Z] it's sloppier than usual

[2022-12-04T02:56:09Z] half of this was written in xedit, half of it on emacs. i need to rerun the autoindenter

[2022-12-04T02:56:15Z] anyway, it's not that weird. whitesmith.

[2022-12-04T02:56:42Z] Late night programming usually leads to this xD

[2022-12-04T02:56:45Z] also in advance: i know the Athena convenience routines are rubbish

[2022-12-04T02:56:48Z] and yes, yes it does

[2022-12-04T02:56:52Z] i can't even think right now

[2022-12-04T02:56:55Z] i'm dead-tired

[2022-12-04T02:57:45Z] Rest well buddy

[2022-12-04T02:59:22Z] actually i should probably upload a screenshot

[2022-12-04T03:02:36Z] bed fr now

[2022-12-04T03:03:09Z] * Torr salutes midfavila

[2022-12-04T03:27:02Z] <testuser[m]> Hi

[2022-12-04T05:36:51Z] Hi

[2022-12-04T07:46:33Z] Rust recommend by the NSA. It's secure! No more vulnerabilities! This is a game changer! C is outdated, Linus Torvalds made the right call.

[2022-12-04T07:47:35Z] * Rust is recommended by the NSA. It's secure! No more vulnerabilities! This is a game changer! C is outdated, Linus Torvalds made the right call.

[2022-12-04T13:42:25Z] >rust

[2022-12-04T13:42:26Z] >recommended by the NSA

[2022-12-04T13:42:26Z] >it's secure

[2022-12-04T13:42:27Z] :thinking:

[2022-12-04T14:19:09Z] <wael[m]> the NSA protects us and keeps us safe!

[2022-12-04T16:43:48Z] oh my god there's a motif HTML viewer library

[2022-12-04T16:44:11Z] indeed

[2022-12-04T16:44:29Z] i'm surprised you haven't encountered XmHTML sooner

[2022-12-04T17:29:06Z] hi

[2022-12-04T17:29:15Z] any users of zathura here ?

[2022-12-04T17:56:13Z] it's so beautiful

[2022-12-04T17:56:15Z] vouivre: yes

[2022-12-04T17:56:34Z] wael[m]: did you have any thoughts on the install page I posted?

[2022-12-04T17:59:40Z] <wael[m]> i mean its really really realrelayrealryarleyreylry short

[2022-12-04T17:59:50Z] <wael[m]> but you got the repo parts right

[2022-12-04T18:00:07Z] <wael[m]> i really do suggest marking 003 as optional tho.. i don't think its necessary

[2022-12-04T18:01:00Z] phoebos: I need to update girara for zathura

[2022-12-04T18:01:55Z] girara has support for dumping the configuration, I think the configuration of zathura

[2022-12-04T18:02:33Z] do you need such a feature ? Personally I don't need. So I would disable it

[2022-12-04T18:02:47Z] I'm the maintainer of zathura and girara

[2022-12-04T18:34:09Z] phoebos: by the way, I have a comment about the install page

[2022-12-04T18:34:52Z] I would add a note about grub. I wasn't able to boot my system with grub and it had to

[2022-12-04T18:34:59Z] do with the compile flags

[2022-12-04T18:35:29Z] >not using a pure assembler bootloader you found on page three search results

[2022-12-04T18:39:17Z] midfavila: is it for me or the install page ?

[2022-12-04T18:39:31Z] just messing with you, ignore me :v

[2022-12-04T18:44:29Z] ok, now I get it :)

[2022-12-04T19:03:15Z] vouivre: i'm not sure I understand your question about zathura, but I don't think I need a feature to dump config

[2022-12-04T19:03:41Z] re: grub, sounds like a good thing to add - what was the problem/solution?

[2022-12-04T19:04:21Z] wael[m]: mark commit verification as optional?

[2022-12-04T19:04:52Z] it is short, but I don't see much point in just repeating what exists on Dylan's page

[2022-12-04T19:05:39Z] apart from that it's nicer for a user to just follow one guide rather than flicking back and forth

[2022-12-04T19:06:37Z] phoebos: yes, it's about dumping the configuration. At the moment it should be possible. But I don't know how.

[2022-12-04T19:07:10Z] in the build or a flag to zathura?

[2022-12-04T19:08:39Z] build of girara

[2022-12-04T19:08:51Z] take a look here

[2022-12-04T19:08:52Z] https://github.com/pwmt/girara

[2022-12-04T19:09:03Z] under "Requirements"

[2022-12-04T19:09:42Z] json-glib-1.0: configuration dumping support

[2022-12-04T19:09:57Z] about grub: I have install it a lot of times without problem

[2022-12-04T19:10:10Z] oh yeah that seems unnecessary

[2022-12-04T19:10:17Z] (json-glib)

[2022-12-04T19:10:27Z] only one time I had no idea why my system was not able to boot

[2022-12-04T19:11:31Z] hhhhmmm, I can't find the problem now. I send the link later.

[2022-12-04T19:11:43Z] sure

[2022-12-04T19:12:03Z] phoebos: thank you for your input about girara

[2022-12-04T19:13:03Z] having said that, zathura and girara already depend on glib, so it's not another dep

[2022-12-04T19:13:19Z] but i generally think that packages in community should be as minimal as possible

[2022-12-04T19:13:30Z] since it's trivial for people to fork them and add functionality

[2022-12-04T19:13:57Z] but making packages smaller is more difficult

[2022-12-04T19:58:42Z] phoebos: about grub here: https://www.reddit.com/r/kisslinux/comments/sckv9n/endless_grub_loop/

[2022-12-04T19:59:55Z] I had an endless grub loop

[2022-12-04T20:00:19Z] I have install kisslinux with mbr on a computer with coreboot

[2022-12-04T20:00:31Z] I have no idea if coreboot was the problem

[2022-12-04T20:01:21Z] I have in mind it's also recommended to compile grub without CFLAGS

[2022-12-04T20:02:16Z] I have always compiled grub with CFLAGS, only one time it didn't work. But I had no idea what was the problem.

[2022-12-04T20:08:50Z] weird

[2022-12-04T20:09:28Z] i have used grub, with -march=native, without problem

[2022-12-04T20:09:33Z] that was efi though

[2022-12-04T20:12:59Z] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Grub#Prerequisites says that grub on coreboot x86_64 only supports "32 bit"; maybe it was something to do with that

[2022-12-04T20:22:32Z] ok, maybe

[2022-12-04T20:27:55Z] m

[2022-12-04T20:28:42Z] maybe you can add a note. But I expect it will work 99 out of 100 or 999 out of 1000

[2022-12-04T20:30:38Z] I would personally add some notes. For example about partitioning or /etc/fstab. I know some steps which are missing.

[2022-12-04T20:30:53Z] But it's because kisslinux was not my first distribution.