[2022-10-19T00:04:00Z] Is that base off AI technology?

[2022-10-19T00:04:39Z] AI compression is the future.

[2022-10-19T00:09:18Z] Quantum plus intelligent AI is the future future, probably a 1 Terabyte to one qubit ratio.

[2022-10-19T00:12:32Z] testuser is doing a PhD on this type of technology if I recall correctly.

[2022-10-19T02:39:47Z] <wael_> pro

[2022-10-19T02:52:32Z] <sad_plan> what other providers have ip? I was considering iproute2, buut seeing as it has deps, I find it abit off putting..

[2022-10-19T04:51:40Z] <testuser[m]> Dependencies exist for a reason

[2022-10-19T04:51:42Z] <testuser[m]> Hi

[2022-10-19T05:00:49Z] <testuser[m]> if u want any "advanced" stuff like required by wireguard then u need iproute2

[2022-10-19T05:55:32Z] Who need ip tools when you don't connect to the internet.

[2022-10-19T06:00:32Z] <testuser[m]> virutalmachineuser: do u even use kiss lol

[2022-10-19T06:02:16Z] yes

[2022-10-19T06:12:47Z] i see that iproute2 from oasis has no deps

[2022-10-19T06:12:57Z] besides linux-headers

[2022-10-19T06:13:30Z] something is wrong with our iproute2

[2022-10-19T06:14:04Z] it definitely should not require iptables crap

[2022-10-19T06:14:08Z] at least

[2022-10-19T06:18:42Z] <testuser[m]> Some features probably require it, I'll see if it's possible to use wireguard with it (one would just use busybox ip otherwise) and remove the dep

[2022-10-19T06:33:29Z] wtf people still depend on iptables

[2022-10-19T06:33:35Z] aren't those were deprecated in favor of nftables?

[2022-10-19T06:38:40Z] <testuser[m]> Yeah

[2022-10-19T06:39:49Z] <testuser[m]> wg-quick supports both tho, but idk if the features it needs from iproute are available without iptables

[2022-10-19T06:39:53Z] <testuser[m]> that's what i have to check

[2022-10-19T07:34:50Z] <testuser[m]> why do some meson pkgs install pkgconfig files to /usr/share

[2022-10-19T07:37:09Z] which

[2022-10-19T07:37:35Z] <testuser[m]> xkeyboard-config

[2022-10-19T07:37:56Z] <testuser[m]> it uses datadir as pkgconfig base

[2022-10-19T07:42:47Z] could you remind me why it needs libx11?

[2022-10-19T07:43:43Z] <testuser[m]> just some data files

[2022-10-19T07:43:56Z] <testuser[m]> /usr/share/x11/locale

[2022-10-19T07:44:19Z] <testuser[m]> idk what they even do so

[2022-10-19T07:44:23Z] hm

[2022-10-19T07:44:32Z] alpine doesn't need libx11

[2022-10-19T07:44:55Z] they use different source also

[2022-10-19T07:45:16Z] it probably doesn't matter tho

[2022-10-19T07:46:02Z] crux build is interesting too

[2022-10-19T07:46:09Z] https://crux.nu/ports/crux-3.7/xorg/xkeyboard-config/Pkgfile

[2022-10-19T07:47:21Z] <testuser[m]> # Depends on: libxslt xorg-xkbcomp

[2022-10-19T07:47:26Z] <testuser[m]> indirectly pulls x11

[2022-10-19T07:48:36Z] ok what about alpine build

[2022-10-19T07:49:44Z] <testuser[m]> seems fine

[2022-10-19T07:49:47Z] <testuser[m]> ill remove x11 data and see if anythng explodes

[2022-10-19T07:49:51Z] <testuser[m]> maybe its required for some other configs

[2022-10-19T07:50:54Z] <testuser[m]> seems ok

[2022-10-19T07:57:07Z] hm, i have pkgconfig file correctly installed

[2022-10-19T07:57:15Z] /usr/share/pkgconfig/xkeyboard-config.pc

[2022-10-19T07:57:43Z] but i use muon

[2022-10-19T07:57:47Z] i'll check meson

[2022-10-19T07:58:35Z] <testuser[m]> its in /usr/share/pkgconfig only

[2022-10-19T07:58:43Z] <testuser[m]> but everything else is in /usr/lib/pkgconfig

[2022-10-19T08:00:08Z] i don't even have /usr/lib in manifest

[2022-10-19T08:00:20Z] ah wait

[2022-10-19T08:00:25Z] i see what you mean

[2022-10-19T08:00:32Z] this is correct behavior

[2022-10-19T08:00:43Z] xkeyboard-config isn't a lib

[2022-10-19T08:01:24Z] it's arch-independent data, so its pkgconfig file goes to /usr/share

[2022-10-19T08:02:04Z] https://github.com/freedesktop/xkeyboard-config/blob/master/meson.build#L25

[2022-10-19T08:02:12Z] <testuser[m]> oh

[2022-10-19T08:03:31Z] so it's fine, not a bug

[2022-10-19T10:03:13Z] <testuser[m]> https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mold-1.6-Linker

[2022-10-19T11:30:52Z] <wael_> must switch to

[2022-10-19T12:51:05Z] <testuser[m]> why does ncurses reset run an artificial sleep

[2022-10-19T12:57:21Z] <wael_> what made it artificial

[2022-10-19T13:00:29Z] <testuser[m]> strace

[2022-10-19T13:03:35Z] <wael_> check source code

[2022-10-19T13:04:28Z] <wael_> https://github.com/mirror/ncurses/blob/master/progs/reset_cmd.c

[2022-10-19T13:11:24Z] https://github.com/landley/toybox/blob/master/toys/other/reset.c#L7

[2022-10-19T13:11:28Z] legacy

[2022-10-19T13:22:37Z] <testuser[m]> WTF

[2022-10-19T13:22:40Z] <testuser[m]> LOL

[2022-10-19T13:23:32Z] netbsd-curses have same issue

[2022-10-19T13:23:49Z] https://github.com/sabotage-linux/netbsd-curses/blob/master/tset/set.c#L239

[2022-10-19T13:24:29Z] <wael_> why is (void) put before it

[2022-10-19T13:24:54Z] <testuser[m]> to silence the compiler

[2022-10-19T13:25:04Z] <testuser[m]> but i dont think there's anything to warn about there

[2022-10-19T13:25:11Z] <testuser[m]> about ignoring ret value

[2022-10-19T13:25:42Z] <testuser[m]> illiliti: https://github.com/haampie/libtree

[2022-10-19T13:36:20Z] ldd should have this by default

[2022-10-19T13:39:00Z] it even has NO_COLOR support, nice

[2022-10-19T14:47:20Z] <wael_> push to repo and replace ldd

[2022-10-19T14:47:21Z] <wael_> solved

[2022-10-19T15:19:02Z] <testuser[m]> https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9kaIXkImCAM

[2022-10-19T15:35:55Z] <wael_> I love this channel

[2022-10-19T15:39:49Z] <testuser[m]> https://githubcopilotinvestigation.com/

[2022-10-19T18:45:02Z] https://github.com/Zeal-Operating-System/ZealOS

[2022-10-19T18:45:17Z] move over linux, real OS incoming

[2022-10-19T18:49:31Z] Can I use electron apps?

[2022-10-19T19:40:57Z] <testuser[m]> For those not under the influence of this mind virus, we’ve all just had a wakeup call that Microsoft is not the awesome, friendly, totally-ethical corporation that we’ve been told they are—they remain an incompetent, bureaucratic, and exploitative corporation, operating many of the increasingly-scarce chokepoints within the computing ecosystem. This wakeup call started with a single, hilarious phrase

[2022-10-19T20:33:48Z] <sad_plan> o/

[2022-10-19T20:34:04Z] ?o?