[2021-09-11T00:53:36Z] >terry quote

[2021-09-11T00:53:38Z] based

[2021-09-11T00:54:16Z] although I feel like a number of people have said such things. anyway what are you dweebs up to

[2021-09-11T00:57:57Z] discovered that the chromium snap disables wayland support and doesn't support pipewire so it doesn't have access to webrtc's pipewire capture feature

[2021-09-11T00:58:03Z] so i'm going to build my own snap...

[2021-09-11T00:58:13Z] so i'm setting up qemu with ubuntu kekw

[2021-09-11T00:59:29Z] >ubuntu

[2021-09-11T00:59:31Z] >snaps

[2021-09-11T00:59:44Z] why do you forsake the true path dilyn

[2021-09-11T01:00:11Z] > https://github.com/dilyn-corner

[2021-09-11T01:00:13Z] your face when

[2021-09-11T01:00:29Z] blocked and reported

[2021-09-11T01:00:35Z] f

[2021-09-11T01:03:27Z] ebay is recommending me veggietales after buying euler's elements of algebra

[2021-09-11T01:03:35Z] i feel personally attacked

[2021-09-11T01:19:14Z] imagine paying for a book written by a dead person

[2021-09-11T01:23:32Z] i prefer owning physical books.

[2021-09-11T01:23:56Z] no bully.

[2021-09-11T01:25:57Z] fair

[2021-09-11T01:26:09Z] probably a good idea to have physical copies for when civilization collapses

[2021-09-11T01:28:46Z] implying i'm not going to hand-wire a Z80-based computer with access to plaintext copies of every known cultural and scientific work of mankind via a decentralized peer-to-peer radio network

[2021-09-11T01:28:58Z] but yes physical books are very convenient

[2021-09-11T01:29:22Z] i'd like to spend more time reading, but alas, i'm in the midst of moving, so all my textbooks are packed

[2021-09-11T01:29:43Z] and it's a royal pain to do my usual exercises on my tiny laptop screen

[2021-09-11T01:32:14Z] unfortunately decentralized peer-to-peer radio networks require peers

[2021-09-11T01:32:57Z] how safe do you imagine libraries would be in an apocalypse...

[2021-09-11T01:32:59Z] :thinking:

[2021-09-11T01:33:28Z] i mean

[2021-09-11T01:33:30Z] probably fairly

[2021-09-11T01:33:46Z] depends on the construction of your library but I imagine they'd be easily defensible

[2021-09-11T01:33:58Z] large enough to house a decent number of people, grow a small amount of food, etc

[2021-09-11T01:34:28Z] and it's mundane so I don't think most people would be interested in shakespearean literature when they're trying to find the world's last twinkie

[2021-09-11T01:34:32Z] * midfavila-laptop shrugs

[2021-09-11T01:35:11Z] if my high school experience taught me anything, most surviving teens would burn it for the lulz and because 'reading is dum'

[2021-09-11T01:35:13Z] :'(

[2021-09-11T01:35:54Z] that's disappointing.

[2021-09-11T01:36:48Z] I've always figured that the first places I would go in the event of societal collapse would be a museum followed by a library.

[2021-09-11T01:36:55Z] we should launch a bunch of satellites containing important books, and put them into orbits that have a high chance of colliding with earth in 10000 years

[2021-09-11T01:37:18Z] >tfw your last hope for preserving human culture lands in the middle of the ocean

[2021-09-11T01:38:00Z] maybe it'll float to land

[2021-09-11T01:39:15Z] also there's the slight assumption that people are still literate

[2021-09-11T01:40:04Z] include that thing they put on voyager that explains how sounds correspond to letters

[2021-09-11T01:40:12Z] man all these fucking soydevs on github steal my totally cool and original program names

[2021-09-11T01:40:14Z] this is bullshit

[2021-09-11T01:40:15Z] and a dictionary

[2021-09-11T01:42:09Z] like what?

[2021-09-11T01:42:20Z] i was going to write a text editor and call it scribe

[2021-09-11T01:42:45Z] i'm still going to write a text editor but now it will probably not be called scribe

[2021-09-11T01:43:44Z] tbh it's your fault for not expecting scribe to already be taken

[2021-09-11T01:43:47Z] oh hi midfavila-laptop

[2021-09-11T01:43:53Z] i didn't entirely expect it to not be taken

[2021-09-11T01:43:58Z] there's like 1500 text editors on shithub

[2021-09-11T01:43:59Z] hi acheam

[2021-09-11T01:44:02Z] thank you for calling my quote choice based

[2021-09-11T01:44:26Z] scribe is a good name

[2021-09-11T01:44:29Z] it would be more based if it was a terry original

[2021-09-11T01:44:34Z] oh?

[2021-09-11T01:44:37Z] like the bird quote

[2021-09-11T01:44:42Z] eh

[2021-09-11T01:44:46Z] he still said it maybe

[2021-09-11T01:44:55Z] i found it on some blog

[2021-09-11T01:45:04Z] i feel like it was actually einstein

[2021-09-11T01:45:07Z] smh my damn head

[2021-09-11T01:45:12Z] not even attributing quotes properly

[2021-09-11T01:45:19Z] for program names, I just call mine really genericly

[2021-09-11T01:45:38Z] i like to anthropomorphize mine in some manner, or name them after tools

[2021-09-11T01:45:41Z] and just assume that people will refer to it as "acheam's calendar"

[2021-09-11T01:45:43Z] or something

[2021-09-11T01:45:48Z] for example, I intend to write a system tray called Platter

[2021-09-11T01:45:54Z] i like that

[2021-09-11T01:45:55Z] because Platter serves icons promptly

[2021-09-11T01:45:56Z] * midfavila-laptop nods

[2021-09-11T01:46:11Z] i guess for my thing to work well, you need a unified online persona

[2021-09-11T01:46:16Z] > scribe

[2021-09-11T01:46:16Z] not the many names by which I go

[2021-09-11T01:46:19Z] you need a brand

[2021-09-11T01:46:20Z] rename it scribd

[2021-09-11T01:46:24Z] lmao

[2021-09-11T01:46:27Z] scribeded

[2021-09-11T01:46:34Z] be fancy and use some french word

[2021-09-11T01:46:49Z] good way to test your poonicode support

[2021-09-11T01:46:51Z] just because I'm canadian doesn't mean I speak french

[2021-09-11T01:46:55Z] smh my damn head

[2021-09-11T01:46:58Z] your not just canadian

[2021-09-11T01:47:01Z] sxribe

[2021-09-11T01:47:05Z] your /east/ candadian

[2021-09-11T01:47:08Z] figured you would be above stereotypes acheam

[2021-09-11T01:47:13Z] has an x, must be french

[2021-09-11T01:47:23Z] <cumin[m]> "smh" means shake my head...fyi

[2021-09-11T01:47:37Z] i think tha'ts the yoke

[2021-09-11T01:47:39Z] wow thanks cumin I didn't know that

[2021-09-11T01:47:44Z] your commentary is so insightful

[2021-09-11T01:48:38Z] <cumin[m]> midfavila-laptop: I'm not trying to flame you

[2021-09-11T01:48:42Z] <cumin[m]> I was just trying to let you know

[2021-09-11T01:48:51Z] - w-

[2021-09-11T01:49:55Z] anyway yeah I've been thinking of a bunch of tools I want to try and implement as side-projects. i've been thinking of trying to write a simple replacement for curl called courier, for example. a session manager would also be nice

[2021-09-11T01:49:59Z] just little things.

[2021-09-11T01:49:59Z] tfw musl is missing syscall numbers

[2021-09-11T01:50:24Z] would also be nice to write an sftp client for dropbear

[2021-09-11T01:50:36Z] midfavila using sftp?

[2021-09-11T01:50:39Z] i know

[2021-09-11T01:50:42Z] a scandal

[2021-09-11T01:50:44Z] but it's true

[2021-09-11T01:50:49Z] but hwhy

[2021-09-11T01:51:02Z] seriously though, whats the point of sftp

[2021-09-11T01:51:07Z] the ssh->scp workflow is legitimately a pain in my ass

[2021-09-11T01:51:12Z] rsync

[2021-09-11T01:51:15Z] no

[2021-09-11T01:51:26Z] yes

[2021-09-11T01:51:28Z] imagine actually thinking I would do something sane

[2021-09-11T01:52:00Z] openssh upstream has already made sftp a part of the scp command

[2021-09-11T01:52:13Z] i don't have any interest in using openssh

[2021-09-11T01:52:14Z] (because screw unix philosiphy, amirite)

[2021-09-11T01:52:16Z] * midfavila-laptop shrugs

[2021-09-11T01:52:42Z] i'm slowly but surely mutilating my fork of the KISS repos from a while back

[2021-09-11T01:52:49Z] nice

[2021-09-11T01:53:10Z] so far we've only increased the base install size by a factor of around fifteen :^)

[2021-09-11T01:53:26Z] that's gnu for you

[2021-09-11T01:53:33Z] we need a middle ground between openssh and dropbear IMO

[2021-09-11T01:53:39Z] the only GNU is sed and like

[2021-09-11T01:53:42Z] binutils and gcc

[2021-09-11T01:53:45Z] something thats openssh-key compatible, but much less bloated

[2021-09-11T01:54:01Z] if I used -box style executables it'd be a lot smaller but size isn't my primary concern

[2021-09-11T01:54:02Z] for the average user, who doesn't need X11 forwarding and other random stuff

[2021-09-11T01:54:14Z] "bro just don't use it bro"

[2021-09-11T01:54:45Z] the sed landscape is sadly barren

[2021-09-11T01:54:51Z] it really is

[2021-09-11T01:54:56Z] sed is hard

[2021-09-11T01:55:01Z] once I work through some of my textbooks I intend to write my own complete userland

[2021-09-11T01:55:06Z] including sed and such

[2021-09-11T01:55:07Z] yeah I wouldn't want to work on implementing it

[2021-09-11T01:55:24Z] okay, i'm off for the night, got a big standardized test tomorrow

[2021-09-11T01:55:24Z] my autism cannot be quelled

[2021-09-11T01:55:32Z] my righteous fury against GNU will be known

[2021-09-11T01:55:34Z] this is the first time i've logged off before seeing testuser[m]'s "hi" :(

[2021-09-11T01:55:41Z] have fun with your multiple choice quiz acheam

[2021-09-11T01:55:47Z] and all the fancy book lernins

[2021-09-11T01:55:56Z] why thank you, midfavila-laptop

[2021-09-11T01:56:05Z] i'm sure it's very educational

[2021-09-11T01:56:14Z] good luck acheam!

[2021-09-11T01:58:05Z] is it SAT time already?

[2021-09-11T01:58:55Z] what even is the SAT anyway? there's nothing like it in canada

[2021-09-11T01:59:08Z] i vaguely recall it has something to do with getting into post secondary.

[2021-09-11T01:59:13Z] just a competency test basically

[2021-09-11T01:59:16Z] english math bla

[2021-09-11T01:59:22Z] pretty cringe.

[2021-09-11T01:59:30Z] a lot of west-coast post-secondary education requires an SAT score

[2021-09-11T01:59:34Z] not so much on the east-coast

[2021-09-11T01:59:43Z] * midfavila-laptop shrugs

[2021-09-11T01:59:44Z] (they want an ACT tho, roughly similar but different)

[2021-09-11T02:00:15Z] that reminds me I need to see if I can challenge the entry requirements for my local university

[2021-09-11T02:00:15Z] schools require it less and less nowadays

[2021-09-11T02:00:36Z] that's good

[2021-09-11T02:00:40Z] sat should be phased out

[2021-09-11T02:00:50Z] same with act. my score was amazing, and i got nothing for it :'(

[2021-09-11T02:01:05Z] no scholarships and a blazingly fast acceptance letter to a mediocre state school. wooooooo

[2021-09-11T02:02:41Z] i'd rather go to my provincial university than the private college I'm at now

[2021-09-11T02:02:52Z] every day makes me want to shoot myself. it's so bad.

[2021-09-11T02:03:08Z] like, last week, right, the instructor just... didn't show up. at all.

[2021-09-11T02:03:22Z] just... because.

[2021-09-11T02:03:24Z] tf kinda private college is that

[2021-09-11T02:03:33Z] a shitty one.

[2021-09-11T02:04:03Z] why is linux giving me syscall not implemented

[2021-09-11T02:04:15Z] the thing that drives me up the wall the most about it though is that they take vendor-neutral tech and then only teach the MS version of it

[2021-09-11T02:04:44Z] i have to use discord for a class :<

[2021-09-11T02:04:53Z] my college makes me use discord >.>;

[2021-09-11T02:04:59Z] on a issued chromebook no less

[2021-09-11T02:05:25Z] i should have taken my grant and studied independently

[2021-09-11T02:06:08Z] they let you do that?

[2021-09-11T02:06:23Z] in my case I was offered three choices

[2021-09-11T02:06:38Z] 1) apprentice as a lab assistant at a local lab

[2021-09-11T02:06:45Z] 2) study for four years independently

[2021-09-11T02:06:51Z] 3) attend post secondary education

[2021-09-11T02:06:58Z] i wanted the first, but then muh coof happened

[2021-09-11T02:07:22Z] and at that point I had less than a week to either apply and be accepted into a college or develop a four-year curriculum for myself

[2021-09-11T02:07:22Z] noocsharp: that seems self-evident

[2021-09-11T02:07:49Z] so for once in my life I took the advice of my elders and just went to college

[2021-09-11T02:07:53Z] and i've regretted it ever since

[2021-09-11T02:07:57Z] fucking millenials

[2021-09-11T02:07:58Z] smh

[2021-09-11T02:08:57Z] so it goes

[2021-09-11T02:09:56Z] fortunately I was told that if I can't find a job out of college and spend the four months between this year's funding ending and the next beginning studying effectively, they'll fund independent study

[2021-09-11T02:10:04Z] and since literally nobody in my city is hiring unix administrators

[2021-09-11T02:10:10Z] kind of a lucky break I guess

[2021-09-11T02:10:20Z] ...well, except the military and a nuclear facility.

[2021-09-11T02:13:14Z] aren't those kind of jobs usually remote?

[2021-09-11T02:21:20Z] some of it can be remote, but if you're administering a machine and a hard drive fails or what have you, it helps to be on-site

[2021-09-11T02:36:35Z] that's what robots are for

[2021-09-11T02:37:19Z] that's what apprentices, assistants, and junior admins are for

[2021-09-11T02:37:46Z] i'm just fucking dreading the four-month placement I have to do as part of my coursework

[2021-09-11T02:37:58Z] they're probably going to dump me at a windows shop and I'm gonna look like even more of a dumbass than usual

[2021-09-11T02:42:55Z] I had to use windows to code at my work, and after some time I found myself writing code using vim and mingw

[2021-09-11T02:44:14Z] i just hate how windows is a) slow as fuck and b) wants everything to be done in some special Windows Way:tm:

[2021-09-11T02:44:40Z] like, no, I'm not using your vendor-specific technology when standardized stuff works better and is easier to set up and use. fuck off redmond

[2021-09-11T03:12:30Z] are all the packages considered implicit dependencies documented somewhere?

[2021-09-11T03:13:25Z] i would assume core/ is implicit

[2021-09-11T03:13:58Z] i'm still cleaning up after people who listed fuckin' curl or libressl as deps in their packages in my fork...

[2021-09-11T03:14:28Z] libressl is not implicit

[2021-09-11T03:14:33Z] nor is openssl

[2021-09-11T03:15:13Z] i don't particularly care about the current state of kiss. note when I said my fork. it was of an earlier set of KISS repos.

[2021-09-11T03:16:01Z] well i was providing a counterexample to your assertion that core is implicit

[2021-09-11T04:12:26Z] <testuser[m]> Hi

[2021-09-11T04:41:26Z] https://github.com/kiss-community/community/issues/197 :)

[2021-09-11T04:42:07Z] noocsharp: i've said it a few times, I had it written down somewhere

[2021-09-11T04:42:48Z] assumed dependencies are things like make, musl, binutils, gcc, busybox

[2021-09-11T04:42:54Z] I really need a repology watcher script to notify me

[2021-09-11T04:43:11Z] toolchain things, basically. unless a specific toolchain thing is required (excluding make)

[2021-09-11T04:43:52Z] so for instance, if it REQUIRES llvm to build (mesa), specify. make is special because most everything requires make, at the very least everything else on that list requires make :)

[2021-09-11T04:44:57Z] busybox is a weird one because it is just a stand-in for "core unix utilities" so sbase/ubase/toybox/awk/sed/grep/etc are allowed to be assumed, UNLESS you require a specific implementation (gnu patch, bash)

[2021-09-11T04:45:23Z] rio6: i feel yah; i've basically orphaned almost all of my community packages

[2021-09-11T04:45:42Z] you could use cron to populate a list once a week

[2021-09-11T04:46:32Z] you can assume pigz because it only provides a gzip utility, but you can't assume bzip2 and xz because they provide libraries

[2021-09-11T04:46:37Z] (and zlib)

[2021-09-11T04:46:58Z] does repology not take community repos? I forget if that was the reason why it was removed from it

[2021-09-11T04:48:07Z] grub can't be assumed (obviously), openssl because libcrypto can be provided by at least two things, linux-headers because it's only ever a make dep, bison/m4/flex because lexer et al aren't special (byacc vs bison, for instance); baseinit/baselayout aren't dependencies of anything (except a bootable system but... well...); curl is a dep of kiss;

[2021-09-11T04:48:07Z] git is just a stand-in for generic vcs

[2021-09-11T04:48:32Z] repology stopped tracking KISS repositories because of the change dylan made to the package format

[2021-09-11T04:48:41Z] it was never supposed to track community maintained repos, just official ones

[2021-09-11T04:48:50Z] (official in that it was maintained by dylan for KISS)

[2021-09-11T04:50:15Z] such an inconvenience

[2021-09-11T04:50:57Z] lmao

[2021-09-11T04:50:59Z] https://github.com/moduluslinux/blx this is neat

[2021-09-11T04:51:06Z] kiss outdated works still

[2021-09-11T04:51:12Z] ^

[2021-09-11T04:51:52Z] btw thanks for the list dilyn

[2021-09-11T04:52:05Z] ofc

[2021-09-11T04:53:13Z] im gonna see if its feasible to use landlock to do dependency checking

[2021-09-11T06:06:06Z] hmhm people don't get notified when I edit an issue and tag them in it, do they

[2021-09-11T06:06:38Z] testuser[m]: did you get a notification from github on this last edit?

[2021-09-11T06:16:13Z] <testuser[m]> Yeah

[2021-09-11T06:17:02Z] ah, cool cool cool

[2021-09-11T06:19:49Z] <testuser[m]> dilyn: how often does qtwebengine rebase

[2021-09-11T06:20:28Z] they rebase with every release but since qt5 is being maintained by kde and I don't think they're pushing point releases... I have no idea

[2021-09-11T06:23:19Z] it looks like they last rebased when chromium hit 90, so not often lmao

[2021-09-11T06:23:24Z] they apply CVEs and stuff

[2021-09-11T06:23:38Z] <testuser[m]> bruh

[2021-09-11T06:23:40Z] at least, alpine uses https://invent.kde.org/qt/qt/qtwebengine-chromium/-/tree/90-based, which is what i would consider the accurate approach

[2021-09-11T11:32:00Z] Anyone here tried IRCv3 ?

[2021-09-11T14:13:31Z] dilyn: https://tmp.bvnf.space/0001.patch

[2021-09-11T15:54:24Z] thanks!

[2021-09-11T16:00:13Z] <testuser[m]> dilyn nss is giving me a checksum mismatch, downloaded 2 times

[2021-09-11T16:00:33Z] <testuser[m]> did you use b3sum again :p

[2021-09-11T16:01:00Z] god dammit

[2021-09-11T16:01:51Z] see and this is why i don't want to maintain community packages XD

[2021-09-11T16:02:01Z] i need a whole chroot environment so I don't miss everything smdh

[2021-09-11T16:07:16Z] <testuser[m]> bruh why is nss junk so huge

[2021-09-11T16:17:23Z] securidae

[2021-09-11T17:32:53Z] netsurf usable when

[2021-09-11T17:33:36Z] https://drewdevault.com/2021/09/11/visurf-announcement.html

[2021-09-11T17:36:23Z] <testuser[m]> Bruh his prayer was instantly answered

[2021-09-11T17:36:50Z] :O :O :O

[2021-09-11T17:36:51Z] holy shit gimme

[2021-09-11T17:43:28Z] god i just can't get qemu to work ever

[2021-09-11T17:43:33Z] last time must've been a fluke

[2021-09-11T17:43:37Z] why didn't I save that build smdh

[2021-09-11T17:44:22Z] i dont get why this is so desirable

[2021-09-11T17:44:42Z] because it's a nonchromium browser that isn't firefox on wayland

[2021-09-11T17:45:05Z] how is netsurf better than links or lynx though?

[2021-09-11T17:45:30Z] better css support I'd imagine

[2021-09-11T17:45:44Z] I sppose

[2021-09-11T17:45:46Z] but not really important for me

[2021-09-11T17:45:46Z] neither of those are graphical

[2021-09-11T17:45:51Z] links -g

[2021-09-11T17:45:54Z] links

[2021-09-11T17:45:55Z] ...

[2021-09-11T17:45:57Z] but yeah I know what you mean

[2021-09-11T17:46:01Z] what now

[2021-09-11T17:46:16Z] its just not /that/ huge of a difference page layout wise

[2021-09-11T17:46:32Z] will be fun to see its development

[2021-09-11T17:46:35Z] <testuser[m]> Does netsurf support videos

[2021-09-11T17:47:51Z] no

[2021-09-11T18:04:17Z] A new webbrowser, neat ^_^

[2021-09-11T18:05:24Z] Has someone already build it? Interested if it needs a toolkit.

[2021-09-11T18:11:34Z] illiliti: hi, I asked on #alpine-devel to build helper.c by default in libudev-zero package

[2021-09-11T18:12:09Z] but some people suggested that 'helper' name is to generic

[2021-09-11T18:12:14Z] too*

[2021-09-11T18:13:30Z] I proposed name 'libudev-zero-helper'. what you think about this and do you plan to add its build in makefile (and move from contrib, maybe)

[2021-09-11T18:14:12Z] there's nothing that requires it to be named 'helper' on an installed system

[2021-09-11T18:14:35Z] just cc -o libudev-zero-helper contrib/helper.c; install -Dm755 libudev-zero-helper "$1/usr/bin/libudev-zero-helper"

[2021-09-11T18:14:54Z] dilyn: yes, I know. I can rename it ofc, but would be nice if we follow upstream name

[2021-09-11T18:15:43Z] and I thought to put it in /usr/libexec dir

[2021-09-11T18:16:52Z] someone proposed 'libudev-zero-send-uevent' name

[2021-09-11T18:17:11Z] <testuser[m]> Too verbose

[2021-09-11T18:17:27Z] lol

[2021-09-11T18:17:31Z] I use linudev-zero-helper on my aur package

[2021-09-11T18:17:40Z] s/lin-lib/

[2021-09-11T18:17:44Z] rio6: ah, good

[2021-09-11T18:18:00Z] we come to same name independently

[2021-09-11T18:18:06Z] "Assertion failure at SDL_GetWindowSize_REAL" >=|

[2021-09-11T18:18:36Z] <testuser[m]> Recompile with NDEBUG, assert dominance over the assertion

[2021-09-11T18:18:44Z] disable assertions kekw

[2021-09-11T18:19:41Z] <testuser[m]> midfavila-laptop: https://developer.atlassian.com/server/confluence/templating-in-javascript-with-soy/

[2021-09-11T18:19:51Z] "configure: error: *** unknown assertion level. stop." wtf sdl

[2021-09-11T18:20:47Z] <testuser[m]> Why would assertions be enabled in a release build of anything though

[2021-09-11T18:20:52Z] <testuser[m]> There's probably a valid issue here but still

[2021-09-11T18:21:51Z] there's definitely a valid issue

[2021-09-11T18:56:34Z] bruh, you're telling me there are literal soydevs now?

[2021-09-11T19:34:32Z] dilyn re: blx - the tag() { add() {} } scoping is really neat there

[2021-09-11T19:46:49Z] mps: that helper is provided because some device managers(except mdevd) cannot rebroadcast uevent natively

[2021-09-11T19:46:58Z] it's entirely optional and unrelated to libudev-zero, that's why i put it into contrib/

[2021-09-11T19:49:15Z] contrib/ shouldn't interact with build system. that's the point of contrib/

[2021-09-11T19:49:49Z] illiliti: yes, you told me this earlier, but some users (and I) wants it to use with busybox mdev

[2021-09-11T19:50:54Z] and this is not only package where packagers build things from contrib dirs in distros

[2021-09-11T19:51:37Z] package this helper as separate package

[2021-09-11T19:52:44Z] hmm, that was also proposed on #alpine-devel, but I'm not sure for now. maybe when we switch to libudev-zero from eudev

[2021-09-11T19:53:29Z] actually we can make it subpackage of libudev-zero

[2021-09-11T19:53:56Z] yeah, that's better

[2021-09-11T19:54:20Z] libudev-zero-helper

[2021-09-11T19:54:23Z] ok, thanks for idea and advice, will do that tomorrow

[2021-09-11T19:55:30Z] ok

[2021-09-11T20:08:43Z] i don't like that kiss-chroot inherits host's CFLAGS

[2021-09-11T20:08:58Z] i have to keep resetting them every time i chroot because gcc doesn't support -flto=thin smh

[2021-09-11T20:13:02Z] anyone using a gui fm they would recommend?

[2021-09-11T20:13:09Z] preferrably wayland native and with thumbnails lol

[2021-09-11T20:13:20Z] how much bloat?

[2021-09-11T20:13:39Z] wayaland native restricts you pretty much to gtk3/4 and qt5

[2021-09-11T20:13:53Z] maybe the pcmanfm gtk3 port

[2021-09-11T20:23:17Z] hmm, i cannot remove anything linked against libwebp because I see a circular dependency between tiff and libwebp :/

[2021-09-11T20:23:24Z] and KISS_FORCE=1 doesnt solve it

[2021-09-11T22:05:33Z] good thing kiss lets you edit package info with a text editor