[2021-07-04T00:16:45Z] midfavila: thanks for you repo btw

[2021-07-04T00:16:56Z] like half my packages are from jt

[2021-07-04T00:17:13Z] Aww, you're welcome. I'm glad to know that it's useful for someone.

[2021-07-04T00:17:18Z] I need to go through and update them soon.

[2021-07-04T00:17:33Z] https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=8Gopg80VXwc

[2021-07-04T00:17:40Z] sotd suggestion, btw

[2021-07-04T00:20:57Z] I'm not doing that anymore

[2021-07-04T00:21:03Z] Aw.

[2021-07-04T00:21:52Z] well, you guys'll just have to deal with me posting a bunch of semi-obscure music then.

[2021-07-04T00:22:20Z] midfavila: how do I get fonts to work on motif/xaw?

[2021-07-04T00:22:33Z] you gotta use the X font descriptor

[2021-07-04T00:22:37Z] I'm getting errors could not get font 8x13

[2021-07-04T00:22:38Z] i have xfontsel packaged

[2021-07-04T00:22:46Z] use that to find a compatible XFD string

[2021-07-04T00:22:51Z] also

[2021-07-04T00:22:57Z] but 8x13 is in /usr/share/fonts/misc

[2021-07-04T00:23:01Z] you can pass 'fixed' to the font argument to use X11's built in font

[2021-07-04T00:23:01Z] oh

[2021-07-04T00:23:08Z] have you run fc-cache?

[2021-07-04T00:23:23Z] yes

[2021-07-04T00:23:26Z] hmm

[2021-07-04T00:24:05Z] i wouldn't be entirely sure then

[2021-07-04T00:24:15Z] hm thabns

[2021-07-04T00:24:25Z] you elcom

[2021-07-04T00:24:30Z] i'll look into it a bit though.

[2021-07-04T00:24:49Z] in the meantime, try using xfontsel.

[2021-07-04T00:24:49Z] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/od3h8b/audacity_may_collect_data_necessary_for_law/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[2021-07-04T00:25:01Z] someone needs to fork audacity

[2021-07-04T00:25:08Z] or just

[2021-07-04T00:25:12Z] not use bloatware

[2021-07-04T00:25:18Z] use ffmpeg directly to play media.

[2021-07-04T00:25:26Z] wxwifgets lol

[2021-07-04T00:25:32Z] audacity does more than just place audio

[2021-07-04T00:25:40Z] i don't actually care.

[2021-07-04T00:25:43Z] it has a programming language built into it

[2021-07-04T00:25:48Z] disgusting.

[2021-07-04T00:25:54Z] lol

[2021-07-04T00:26:00Z] damn, kernel comp failed bc of something about BTF debug so, guess i'm starting anew

[2021-07-04T00:26:06Z] no like, for once I'm not joking

[2021-07-04T00:26:11Z] that's actually, unironically awful.

[2021-07-04T00:26:21Z] it's for sound manipulation

[2021-07-04T00:26:27Z] use ffmpeg.

[2021-07-04T00:26:38Z] it's called Nyquist

[2021-07-04T00:26:49Z] it's a lisp

[2021-07-04T00:27:04Z] just because it's a based language doesn't mean it has any business in a media application.

[2021-07-04T00:27:11Z] provide common lisp bindings

[2021-07-04T00:27:18Z] not an entire environ within the program.

[2021-07-04T00:27:26Z] midfavila: xfontsel is complaining about xpm missing

[2021-07-04T00:27:31Z] says the guy that uses a lisp window manager xD

[2021-07-04T00:27:36Z] i don't use stumpwm

[2021-07-04T00:27:43Z] oh?

[2021-07-04T00:27:50Z] acheam strange, install libXpm in the meantime

[2021-07-04T00:27:53Z] i'll update the depends file

[2021-07-04T00:28:07Z] ah capital x that's why I couldn't find it

[2021-07-04T00:28:08Z] i've been using shod, Nova

[2021-07-04T00:28:16Z] https://github.com/phillbush/shod

[2021-07-04T00:28:31Z] oh i heard of it

[2021-07-04T00:28:36Z] isn't it just someone's experiment

[2021-07-04T00:28:40Z] yes

[2021-07-04T00:28:51Z] ...hmm...

[2021-07-04T00:28:52Z] strange

[2021-07-04T00:29:03Z] my build of xfontsel has no dependencies on xpm

[2021-07-04T00:29:10Z] weird

[2021-07-04T00:29:16Z] hmmm xfontsel finds the font

[2021-07-04T00:29:28Z] try passing the string xfontsel provides to your program

[2021-07-04T00:29:46Z] xfontsel finds it with ----*

[2021-07-04T00:29:56Z] so not sure why it wouldnt be found

[2021-07-04T00:30:03Z] uh

[2021-07-04T00:30:09Z] in that case it would just be using fixed, I think

[2021-07-04T00:30:13Z] which is built-in to X11

[2021-07-04T00:30:29Z] yes it is using misc-fixef

[2021-07-04T00:30:46Z] which is what my program is trying to find AFAICT

[2021-07-04T00:30:51Z] 8x13 is seperate

[2021-07-04T00:30:57Z] oh

[2021-07-04T00:30:59Z] explicitly pass fixed

[2021-07-04T00:31:05Z] well I have that installed too... will do

[2021-07-04T00:33:03Z] yay it worked thanks mid

[2021-07-04T00:33:13Z] You're welcome, acheam.

[2021-07-04T00:33:23Z] not sure why these two buttons are gifuckingnormus but at least it launches

[2021-07-04T00:34:04Z] I'm building vile, if youre interestef

[2021-07-04T00:34:15Z] "Vile"?

[2021-07-04T00:34:21Z] Vi-like Emacs?

[2021-07-04T00:34:30Z] pretty cool editor with motif and xaw and ncurses guis

[2021-07-04T00:34:31Z] yes

[2021-07-04T00:34:36Z] Huh.

[2021-07-04T00:34:40Z] Never heard of it before.

[2021-07-04T00:34:42Z] I'll check it out.

[2021-07-04T00:42:53Z] ...can't say I'm a fan.

[2021-07-04T00:59:39Z] aaaaa why is compiling a kernel so damn difficult

[2021-07-04T00:59:50Z] i got this close and then it just, errored out

[2021-07-04T01:02:19Z] now it's something about byteorder

[2021-07-04T01:07:41Z] https://0x0.st/-f_c.log if anyone has any idea on what to do please let me know because i'm at a loss

[2021-07-04T01:08:15Z] have you applied the suggested sed -i to the kernel

[2021-07-04T01:24:04Z] midfavila: why?

[2021-07-04T01:25:01Z] it's an emacs for vi users, not a vi for emacs users

[2021-07-04T01:25:04Z] if that makes sense

[2021-07-04T01:25:04Z] kayw: yeah I think that is the same issue as everyone is having, check the news post about it

[2021-07-04T01:25:09Z] yeah makes sense

[2021-07-04T01:25:21Z] i did apply the sed patch

[2021-07-04T01:28:32Z] question

[2021-07-04T01:28:48Z] would you guys be interested in seeing KISS run on an old military backplane machine?

[2021-07-04T01:31:38Z] i think that'd be cool

[2021-07-04T01:31:51Z] i'm looking at building an older ISA system for tinkering with

[2021-07-04T01:31:53Z] i remember seeing something about a distro made for older computers, can't remember the name or where i saw it

[2021-07-04T01:32:08Z] powerful enough to do useful work, but weak enough that I'd have to be somewhat clever

[2021-07-04T01:32:38Z] no ME, no overcomplicated ISA, just an 80486 or 80586

[2021-07-04T01:32:46Z] maybe 128mb of memory

[2021-07-04T01:33:14Z] damn, yeah slap kiss on it

[2021-07-04T01:33:23Z] it'd take a while to compile but it should work

[2021-07-04T01:33:29Z] you could do distcc?

[2021-07-04T01:33:32Z] i wouldn't compile it on the machine, dear god

[2021-07-04T01:33:45Z] i'd cross-compile from my workstation and transfer it to the ISA machine over parallel

[2021-07-04T01:33:53Z] probably using zmodem

[2021-07-04T01:36:47Z] yeah good idea

[2021-07-04T01:38:08Z] ...never mind... god, I fucking hate these "VINTAGE RARE L@@K!!!" people

[2021-07-04T01:38:25Z] "I know what I have, no low-ballers!" and it's some 486DX in a case that's falling apart

[2021-07-04T01:38:47Z] the chassis would be more expensive than the SBC and backplane combined

[2021-07-04T01:38:50Z] yeah no thanks

[2021-07-04T01:39:00Z] i figured it would be like 200$ at most

[2021-07-04T03:15:02Z] y'all broke me, I'm slowly switching from emacs

[2021-07-04T03:15:13Z] first steps: switching to nano and mutt

[2021-07-04T03:15:30Z] nano1?!?!?

[2021-07-04T03:15:32Z] after that: org mode and feed reader

[2021-07-04T03:15:48Z] after that: my config files

[2021-07-04T03:16:06Z] noocsharp: yes, nano has impressed me the most of any editor I have tried so far

[2021-07-04T03:16:20Z] its surprisingly capable

[2021-07-04T03:16:32Z] but I'm open to other reccomendations

[2021-07-04T03:17:20Z] my criteria are: curses based or xaw/motif GUI, good editing shortcuts, syntax highlighting, and that's about it

[2021-07-04T03:17:33Z] the last time i used nano was on an arch iso

[2021-07-04T03:17:55Z] oh and it should be written in a sane language with a sane config language

[2021-07-04T03:18:12Z] noocsharp: then you havent given it a good shot

[2021-07-04T03:18:28Z] i need my vi

[2021-07-04T03:18:38Z] what implementation do you use?

[2021-07-04T03:18:44Z] vis

[2021-07-04T03:19:01Z] I wouldn't call vis vi :)

[2021-07-04T03:19:11Z] visam

[2021-07-04T03:19:29Z] ?

[2021-07-04T03:19:33Z] vi + sam

[2021-07-04T03:19:39Z] ah yeah lol

[2021-07-04T03:20:11Z] for feed reader i would recommend sfeed/sfeed_curses

[2021-07-04T03:21:22Z] vim

[2021-07-04T03:21:32Z] oh nice its by codemadness

[2021-07-04T03:21:46Z] looks good thanks!

[2021-07-04T04:15:36Z] anyone here use hummingbird?

[2021-07-04T04:21:52Z] midfavila: I dont think so

[2021-07-04T04:22:03Z] darn.

[2021-07-04T04:22:13Z] man if there is one thing I miss from bash/zsh, its process substitution

[2021-07-04T04:22:17Z] even after getting a proper, working system on my laptop, hummingbird still loses its mind

[2021-07-04T04:22:18Z] also, what?

[2021-07-04T04:22:22Z] the <() syntax

[2021-07-04T04:22:29Z] Oh.

[2021-07-04T04:22:46Z] hmm

[2021-07-04T04:22:49Z] yash might have it.

[2021-07-04T04:23:10Z] I'll look into it

[2021-07-04T04:23:20Z] i have it packaged, fyi

[2021-07-04T04:23:27Z] thx

[2021-07-04T04:23:28Z] it's a very comfy shell once you get it set up

[2021-07-04T04:23:33Z] not too big either

[2021-07-04T04:23:35Z] yash is awesome

[2021-07-04T04:23:38Z] * midfavila nods

[2021-07-04T04:23:49Z] alas, it has trouble with kiss

[2021-07-04T04:23:50Z] you can actually replace your /bin/sh with it

[2021-07-04T04:23:57Z] not entirely.

[2021-07-04T04:24:06Z] kiss breaks during installs.

[2021-07-04T04:24:09Z] ooh I think it does have it

[2021-07-04T04:24:21Z] yash is like bash if it wasn't completely shit

[2021-07-04T04:26:09Z] yash is more like zsh but with more focus on proper /bin/sh

[2021-07-04T04:26:28Z] using zsh as /bin/sh is impossible

[2021-07-04T04:33:13Z] project idea: nano with lua bindings

[2021-07-04T04:33:33Z] i'd like to write my own editor at some point

[2021-07-04T04:33:39Z] i don't think it would be a PICO clone though

[2021-07-04T04:44:07Z] ...haha!

[2021-07-04T04:44:11Z] Laptop is fully-functional once more

[2021-07-04T04:44:18Z] albeit sans one bird,

[2021-07-04T04:44:19Z] but still

[2021-07-04T04:50:50Z] bird?

[2021-07-04T04:51:02Z] hummingbird

[2021-07-04T04:51:05Z] i had to swap it for shinit

[2021-07-04T04:51:07Z] anyway

[2021-07-04T04:51:10Z] ah

[2021-07-04T04:51:14Z] i've hit a new lot in terms of memory usage

[2021-07-04T04:51:34Z] 85mb with a window manager, display manager, compositor, task manager, system tray, and bar open

[2021-07-04T04:51:39Z] as well as a wireless daemon in the background

[2021-07-04T04:52:04Z] 15mb of that is the task manager, and another 22 is from the compositor

[2021-07-04T04:52:23Z] this is the power of spending a week tuning your distro

[2021-07-04T04:55:12Z] huzzah

[2021-07-04T05:00:59Z] <testuser[m]> Hi

[2021-07-04T05:01:04Z] ih

[2021-07-04T05:49:16Z] <testuser[m]> dilyn: is KISS_COMPRESS=zstd working for you ? Kiss seems to create archives that fail to extract with "short read"

[2021-07-04T05:59:19Z] https://github.com/Seteeri/particle acheam

[2021-07-04T05:59:28Z] attempt at creating a LISP machine-style working environment for linux

[2021-07-04T06:52:42Z] Hey any of you play TPT?

[2021-07-04T06:58:41Z] I only play textual and unaccelerated 2d games

[2021-07-04T07:10:14Z] lol

[2021-07-04T07:10:17Z] it's a cool game

[2021-07-04T07:10:29Z] OSS too

[2021-07-04T10:14:47Z] Hello :)

[2021-07-04T10:15:14Z] hi!

[2021-07-04T10:15:17Z] <testuser[m]> hi

[2021-07-04T10:19:06Z] dilyn vs dylan

[2021-07-04T10:20:30Z] Fun fact: dilyn is Irish whereas dylan is Welsh

[2021-07-04T10:20:35Z] The names I mean

[2021-07-04T10:25:14Z] dy1an: seems like the package manager wants to downgrade some packages, switch from kisslinux-community to kisslinux

[2021-07-04T10:25:20Z] switching*

[2021-07-04T10:25:37Z] why is that a downgrade?

[2021-07-04T10:26:22Z] I guess because some packages arent updated yet in kisslinux

[2021-07-04T10:26:31Z] not sure tho dy1an probably knows better

[2021-07-04T10:26:33Z] No

[2021-07-04T10:26:39Z] They should all be up-to-date

[2021-07-04T10:26:43Z] Which packages?

[2021-07-04T10:27:26Z] There are some false positives I /am/ aware of.

[2021-07-04T10:30:08Z] dy1an: http://paste.debian.net/plain/1203358

[2021-07-04T10:30:14Z] baselayout? but that's only because of some url changes (maybe) on kiss-community's end

[2021-07-04T10:30:26Z] https://termbin.com/o9ywk

[2021-07-04T10:30:37Z] This is what kiss-outdated spits out

[2021-07-04T10:30:49Z] <testuser[m]> 5.10 is the new lts

[2021-07-04T10:31:20Z] Is there any reason to bump the headers to 5.10 though?

[2021-07-04T10:31:28Z] ie, any new features that the headers expose?

[2021-07-04T10:31:31Z] technoznc: most of those are rel differences rather than actual different version

[2021-07-04T10:31:56Z] <testuser[m]> dont think so ,just remember it mentioned somewhere that headers are bumped on every lts

[2021-07-04T10:32:01Z] <testuser[m]> for kiss

[2021-07-04T10:32:03Z] ah ok, just wanted to be sure before I switch, thanks guys!

[2021-07-04T10:32:19Z] There are many LTS releases

[2021-07-04T10:32:33Z] <testuser[m]> major

[2021-07-04T10:36:15Z] Headers have been updated.

[2021-07-04T10:37:20Z] also dylan just a heads up you may want to fix your time since it seems you either use wrong timezone or even wrong time altogether

[2021-07-04T10:38:21Z] Will do. It's showing like that on GitHub?

[2021-07-04T10:39:28Z] aye, shows "committed in 3 hours" in one of your latest commits

[2021-07-04T10:40:36Z] Should be good now (from next commit)

[2021-07-04T10:45:44Z] <testuser[m]> dy1an: https://github.com/kiss-community/kiss/commit/42f659fb9a8f4eaa3f0051fe8ada52aa8f334e3f#diff-4e796001c105fa20404267143ca847d3b33672d441a9d129d5366bb4862e6a1b

[2021-07-04T10:45:53Z] <testuser[m]> looks like you missed this one

[2021-07-04T10:53:17Z] Fixed

[2021-07-04T12:53:47Z] good morning everyone

[2021-07-04T12:59:58Z] <testuser[m]> hi kay

[2021-07-04T12:59:59Z] <testuser[m]> Kayw

[2021-07-04T13:04:41Z] i'm still working on getting my kernel to compile but lets hope that it doesn't fail in the same way it did last night

[2021-07-04T13:06:22Z] <msk_1411[m]> did you get gmp or whatever it was to build?

[2021-07-04T13:07:42Z] <testuser[m]> Can you show the full log agian

[2021-07-04T13:16:48Z] yea, sure

[2021-07-04T13:17:01Z] msk_1411[m]: yeah i got all the deps for building it

[2021-07-04T13:17:19Z] testuser[m]: https://0x0.st/-f_c.log

[2021-07-04T13:17:38Z] i'm trying to fully rebuild it right now to see if it was a one-off error of some sort

[2021-07-04T13:19:09Z] <msk_1411[m]> Is the sed patch also applied? I was getting similar errors with the expected '=', ',', ';', and everything before I added the header

[2021-07-04T13:19:26Z] yes

[2021-07-04T13:19:48Z] the header is there, i triple checked

[2021-07-04T13:20:20Z] <testuser[m]> What kernel version

[2021-07-04T13:20:36Z] 5.12.13

[2021-07-04T13:21:23Z] I find it kind of funny that Wikipedia clearly makes the distinction that

[2021-07-04T13:21:28Z] 'The Joe of JOE is not the same Joe as the Joe of JWM. "

[2021-07-04T13:21:44Z] <testuser[m]> I guess you could try adding #include <linux/stddef.h> to those 3 files that are erroring out, the single sed should've worked

[2021-07-04T13:22:54Z] it's compiling right now, but if the issue persists i'll try that

[2021-07-04T13:39:23Z] okay, so it failed again

[2021-07-04T13:43:30Z] wow, adding the headers seems to have worked

[2021-07-04T13:44:41Z] seems to be running a posttest right now

[2021-07-04T13:45:45Z] <testuser[m]> you could probably add -D__always_inline=__inline__ to KCFLAGS too, since the header just does #define __always_inline __inline__

[2021-07-04T14:15:45Z] it's been sitting at a posttest for quite a while now, is that normal?

[2021-07-04T14:16:42Z] <testuser[m]> posttest ?

[2021-07-04T14:16:46Z] <testuser[m]> show

[2021-07-04T14:17:18Z] welp fuck nvm

[2021-07-04T14:17:32Z] speak of the devil, i look over and it's missing zstd

[2021-07-04T14:53:25Z] it fucking finished

[2021-07-04T14:54:43Z] nvm more errors on trying to install modules

[2021-07-04T14:55:33Z] i'm gonna stop working on this, maybe try it another day

[2021-07-04T15:12:53Z] test

[2021-07-04T15:14:14Z] test

[2021-07-04T15:16:01Z] <testuser[m]> Fail

[2021-07-04T15:16:19Z] nope it worked

[2021-07-04T15:16:43Z] <testuser[m]> Idk man i didn't see anything

[2021-07-04T15:16:50Z] dang

[2021-07-04T16:18:48Z] claudia: KISS_COMPRESS should be zst, not zstd

[2021-07-04T16:21:32Z] <testuser[m]> Oh

[2021-07-04T16:58:06Z] do KISS support XDG mime / opeen?

[2021-07-04T17:08:19Z] dilyn: How could you know that I have tried out zstd. But I already set KISS_COMPRESS=zst :v

[2021-07-04T17:08:38Z] eeeeew zstd

[2021-07-04T17:09:37Z] zstd makes me flex that my kernel size shrinked ~20%

[2021-07-04T17:10:52Z] when this matters at all.

[2021-07-04T17:11:10Z] But my boot time did not decrease, which was what I was aiming for.

[2021-07-04T17:11:35Z] whats your kernel size?

[2021-07-04T17:12:46Z] mine is 12.5 MB :3

[2021-07-04T17:13:10Z] prendergast: you can use this as xdg_open https://github.com/dylanaraps/shfm/blob/master/README#L103

[2021-07-04T17:13:34Z] thank you my lad

[2021-07-04T17:13:52Z] I was around 10mb with I think gzip. Now its 8.

[2021-07-04T17:14:20Z] <testuser[m]> claudia: dilyn was replying to my message i think, lol

[2021-07-04T17:16:32Z] * claudia just took the oportunity to flex.

[2021-07-04T17:17:09Z] I avoid zstd

[2021-07-04T17:17:41Z] <testuser[m]> Avoid it then

[2021-07-04T17:19:33Z] ^

[2021-07-04T17:20:41Z] and yes, I was indeed testuser :v memory slipped

[2021-07-04T17:35:07Z] <testuser[m]> Is it too big of a hack to use -isystem ./dirwithheaders to silence warnings from third-party header files ?

[2021-07-04T19:15:23Z] <msk_1411[m]> I just wrote a shellscript using file -i with a case statement instead of xdg-open

[2021-07-04T19:17:00Z] Thank you msk i saw it implemented in shfm and fff too

[2021-07-04T19:24:09Z] <msk_1411[m]> oh, I see, they give an example script

[2021-07-04T19:32:20Z] hrm.

[2021-07-04T19:32:29Z] any of you guys have experience with 3D printers?

[2021-07-04T19:33:08Z] Yeah I 3D printed my 3D printer

[2021-07-04T19:33:21Z] Oh, a RepRap?

[2021-07-04T21:39:54Z] prendergast: I have xdg-open packaged

[2021-07-04T22:05:56Z] acheam: It's freedesktop software ewww

[2021-07-04T22:06:22Z] so is.... half the stuff on your computer

[2021-07-04T22:09:09Z] fair point

[2021-07-04T22:09:24Z] had no idea X.org was freedesktop

[2021-07-04T22:09:38Z] it's maintained by them, yes

[2021-07-04T22:09:55Z] but if we're talking about who started it, it was the XFree86 project

[2021-07-04T22:30:05Z] Did Dylan come back?

[2021-07-04T22:30:47Z] I just saw a news update on kisslinux.xyz

[2021-07-04T22:30:58Z] yes

[2021-07-04T22:31:10Z] but nobody seems sure if he's taking the reigns back

[2021-07-04T22:31:23Z] it's very confusing

[2021-07-04T22:31:31Z] right now kiss basically has two upstreams

[2021-07-04T22:31:49Z] Yes, I saw he has some github activity

[2021-07-04T22:32:10Z] So is it something Dilyn and Dylan have to work out?

[2021-07-04T22:32:59Z] indeed

[2021-07-04T22:33:00Z] I was thinking of installing, but not sure which to try

[2021-07-04T22:33:14Z] the kiss-community upstream is what i'd go with atm

[2021-07-04T22:33:26Z] because the community repository there is maintained

[2021-07-04T22:33:33Z] is that the one from k1sslinux.org?

[2021-07-04T22:33:36Z] you can always switch the upstream

[2021-07-04T22:33:38Z] yes

[2021-07-04T22:33:44Z] ok, thanks

[2021-07-04T22:33:56Z] that might change in a few weeks when more things get figured out

[2021-07-04T22:34:17Z] i have been advised :-)

[2021-07-04T22:34:42Z] i appreciate knowing what at least someone recommends

[2021-07-04T22:34:53Z] a tie-breaker!

[2021-07-04T22:37:49Z] midfavila: what upstream do you use

[2021-07-04T22:38:19Z] well, my desktop is currently based on kiss-community

[2021-07-04T22:38:24Z] but I'm probably going to fork the rootfs soon

[2021-07-04T22:38:35Z] why

[2021-07-04T22:38:44Z] i use vannila kiss-community

[2021-07-04T22:39:03Z] because spending five hours stripping out all the crap I don't like about the current image every time I set up a new machine is stupid and a waste of my time, quite frankly

[2021-07-04T22:39:58Z] I don't much crap

[2021-07-04T22:40:06Z] in the base image

[2021-07-04T22:40:32Z] it's mostly just busybox + kiss + baselayout + curl + git

[2021-07-04T22:40:43Z] yes, and I dislike busybox and curl.

[2021-07-04T22:40:53Z] largely git, as well, but there's nothing I can do about that.

[2021-07-04T22:40:57Z] kiss depends on curl

[2021-07-04T22:41:02Z] not with my patch.

[2021-07-04T22:41:07Z] ooh

[2021-07-04T22:41:13Z] i haven't used curl with kiss in months.

[2021-07-04T22:41:20Z] link?

[2021-07-04T22:41:45Z] you're going to see more work happening on kiss itself from Dylan; it's a lot of work for me to keep up with what he's doing

[2021-07-04T22:41:48Z] http://0x0.st/-feq.patch

[2021-07-04T22:41:50Z] midfavila: git could also possibly be replaced with rsync

[2021-07-04T22:41:55Z] I don't know what his plans are; I'm just as in the dark on this as everyone else :)

[2021-07-04T22:42:01Z] if I was going to replace git, it would be with fossil

[2021-07-04T22:42:14Z] anyway, you might have to tinker with the patch a bit. it seems to not apply with the latest git version of kiss

[2021-07-04T22:42:48Z] have you though of pull requesting the patch to upstream?

[2021-07-04T22:42:57Z] sent dylan an email the other day.

[2021-07-04T22:43:02Z] s/though/thought

[2021-07-04T22:43:23Z] why not github pull request

[2021-07-04T22:43:31Z] you should know by now.

[2021-07-04T22:43:41Z] you don't have to visit the website to do a pr

[2021-07-04T22:43:48Z] there's a cli utility

[2021-07-04T22:43:50Z] if you're into that

[2021-07-04T22:43:58Z] * midfavila sighs

[2021-07-04T22:44:12Z] I'm not willing to use Github beyond cloning respositories. Even that's done begrudgingly

[2021-07-04T22:45:18Z] also what are you replacing busybox with

[2021-07-04T22:45:26Z] toybox?

[2021-07-04T22:45:46Z] u/s/9base, with libarchive and some standalone utilities.

[2021-07-04T22:46:06Z] i don't do monolithing executables.

[2021-07-04T22:46:12Z] monolithic*

[2021-07-04T22:46:22Z] monolithing... what the fuck...

[2021-07-04T22:47:47Z] Dylan's kiss has KISS_DL to set the downloader, an experiment or some such the comment said.

[2021-07-04T22:47:57Z] yes, that's from my patch

[2021-07-04T22:48:01Z] has it been upstreamed?

[2021-07-04T22:48:08Z] Yes.

[2021-07-04T22:49:05Z] oh amazing!

[2021-07-04T22:49:08Z] hmm

[2021-07-04T22:49:09Z] no

[2021-07-04T22:49:12Z] it doesn't look like my patch

[2021-07-04T22:49:14Z] not at all

[2021-07-04T22:49:22Z] my patch provided support for curl, wget, axel and aria2

[2021-07-04T22:49:27Z] it still does the same thing though?

[2021-07-04T22:49:30Z] it does not

[2021-07-04T22:49:59Z] perhaps he's simply adjusting my patch

[2021-07-04T22:50:08Z] either way, it's unimportant

[2021-07-04T22:50:34Z] 958 lines oof

[2021-07-04T22:50:39Z] getting close to 1000 line limit

[2021-07-04T22:51:29Z] only problem is that I haven't gotten any email back from Dylan, so no clue if he saw my patch...

[2021-07-04T22:52:36Z] either way it's nice to see KISS_DL being a thing

[2021-07-04T22:55:01Z] ...hm...

[2021-07-04T22:55:06Z] not sure how to feel about this.

[2021-07-04T22:55:17Z] lol

[2021-07-04T22:55:37Z] midafavila: Why

[2021-07-04T22:55:57Z] it's exactly the simplest version of your patch

[2021-07-04T22:56:04Z] just set KISS_DL to be whatever arguments axel needs

[2021-07-04T23:05:14Z] dilyn, would you suggest a new user wanting to evaluate kiss should start with the tarball from dylan?

[2021-07-04T23:09:21Z] nano Is dead to me now, JOE is much nicer

[2021-07-04T23:09:25Z] although more bloated

[2021-07-04T23:10:40Z] busybox vi

[2021-07-04T23:10:47Z] they're basically equivalent tarballs guest488

[2021-07-04T23:11:11Z] our upstreams are basically equivalent. the only real difference is in kiss itself

[2021-07-04T23:11:17Z] dilyn: Doesn't Dylan's tarball have his kiss version

[2021-07-04T23:11:22Z] yes

[2021-07-04T23:11:29Z] but that isn't hard to change :)

[2021-07-04T23:38:27Z] it'd be nice if Dylan let us know his plans lol. he was here when most of the regulars around here were sleeping so we couldn't ask

[2021-07-04T23:40:38Z] acheam: Yep i wasn't on... rip

[2021-07-04T23:40:51Z] I think he might live in a very different timezone

[2021-07-04T23:41:04Z] he lives in Greece

[2021-07-04T23:41:21Z] on the plus side, maybe he has a good sleep schedule

[2021-07-04T23:41:22Z] idk where that is relative to you

[2021-07-04T23:42:02Z] ooh busybox config allows you to disable cat -v

[2021-07-04T23:42:25Z] my system is officially 100% bloat free without that terrible un-unixy flag