[2021-06-21T00:01:18Z] uhh some weird stuff happening

[2021-06-21T00:01:33Z] on bootup, am logged automatically into a root console, but its not a tty

[2021-06-21T00:02:00Z] not sure what I changed

[2021-06-21T00:02:22Z] The reboot, power off, etc commands aren't working

[2021-06-21T00:02:54Z] can't switch ttys with ctrl alt number

[2021-06-21T00:04:24Z] oh I'm an idiot the boot log explains everything

[2021-06-21T00:04:27Z] never mind me

[2021-06-21T02:45:05Z] <testuser[m]1> Hi

[2021-06-21T02:47:19Z] <testuser[m]1> micr0 hmm that's weird, are you using the exact same build file as in my repo ?

[2021-06-21T03:20:56Z] /26

[2021-06-21T03:20:59Z] oops

[2021-06-21T04:02:28Z] irclogs.armaanb.net now has the freenode logs

[2021-06-21T04:02:46Z] not sure how helpful it will be given you have to access it by date though lol

[2021-06-21T05:02:15Z] hmm

[2021-06-21T05:07:35Z] .

[2021-06-21T05:07:42Z] ?

[2021-06-21T05:07:59Z] for some reason I can't identify my nickname

[2021-06-21T05:08:06Z] but I'm guessing it's fine?

[2021-06-21T05:14:48Z] according to an announcement services is under maintenance so there's that

[2021-06-21T07:54:33Z] Hi guys

[2021-06-21T07:54:39Z] How can i disable ttys?

[2021-06-21T07:57:10Z] <testuser[m]1> Comment them out in the init scripts

[2021-06-21T07:57:16Z] <testuser[m]1> Why do you want to

[2021-06-21T14:47:05Z] testuser[m]1: i have one 2 ttys and don't use one

[2021-06-21T14:47:38Z] This is why

[2021-06-21T14:48:06Z] And don't know more what is given me the 20mb ram

[2021-06-21T14:51:05Z] So if i can disable something to get less ram, i will disable

[2021-06-21T14:52:51Z] <testuser[m]1> Lol i don't think disabling 1 tty is gonna do anything

[2021-06-21T15:00:24Z] have you tried to check what is using your RAM? maybe then you can narrow down what has changed

[2021-06-21T16:00:06Z] omanom: i checked in htop

[2021-06-21T16:00:13Z] But nothing anormal

[2021-06-21T16:01:24Z] In init runsvdir -P with mdev and eiwd

[2021-06-21T16:01:43Z] bin/sh -- /usr/bin/sx

[2021-06-21T16:01:49Z] sowm

[2021-06-21T16:02:08Z] And /bin/getttt 38400 tty2

[2021-06-21T16:02:26Z] And all xorg stuff

[2021-06-21T16:03:59Z] Seems normal to me

[2021-06-21T16:04:19Z] none of them are using an extra 20MB more?

[2021-06-21T16:11:52Z] None

[2021-06-21T16:12:07Z] I think exactly is libudev-zero or udev shit

[2021-06-21T16:12:14Z] Something funny i see now

[2021-06-21T16:12:54Z] When i use mdev with libudev-zero it had no difference compared when i use udev

[2021-06-21T16:13:42Z] So why is this happen, i don't fucking know

[2021-06-21T16:13:55Z] And the replacing udev article changes nothing

[2021-06-21T16:21:40Z] what made you notice the difference?

[2021-06-21T16:33:58Z] So

[2021-06-21T16:34:05Z] Last days i update my kiss

[2021-06-21T16:34:23Z] The libudev-zero package get update

[2021-06-21T16:34:39Z] When i reboot i see htop to view ram usage

[2021-06-21T16:34:51Z] And i see 20mb extra

[2021-06-21T16:34:54Z] that was the only package that got updated?

[2021-06-21T16:35:23Z] and you know for sure it was 20MB less prior to updating that package?

[2021-06-21T16:35:53Z] I don't remember well but i think it had 3 packages, one are rustc but i don't finished the build

[2021-06-21T16:35:58Z] But man

[2021-06-21T16:35:59Z] like maybe you had updated a day or two prior and just hadn't noticed it yet

[2021-06-21T16:36:04Z] I made a reinstall of kiss

[2021-06-21T16:36:11Z] And had the same issue

[2021-06-21T16:36:43Z] I think yeah, for sure is eudev or something

[2021-06-21T16:36:46Z] as in you wiped the hdd and reinstalled?

[2021-06-21T16:37:10Z] When i removed it in every kiss install and use libudev-zero i get ~130mb

[2021-06-21T16:37:19Z] Now i get ~150mb

[2021-06-21T16:37:39Z] Yeah i wiped all ssd

[2021-06-21T16:37:58Z] what's your graphical environment?

[2021-06-21T16:38:02Z] Xorg

[2021-06-21T16:38:06Z] Sowm

[2021-06-21T16:38:55Z] do you use wifi?

[2021-06-21T16:39:11Z] Yeah eiwd

[2021-06-21T16:39:24Z] But use it for mounths and nothing change

[2021-06-21T16:40:01Z] did you compare the RAM usage when no X server is started?

[2021-06-21T16:40:29Z] Not in previous kiss install

[2021-06-21T16:40:41Z] Just compared it with the fresh install i made

[2021-06-21T16:43:37Z] But i don't get any information with that, so yeah pretty fucked

[2021-06-21T16:43:47Z] But the thing is

[2021-06-21T16:44:04Z] Why when i use eudev and when i don't use it

[2021-06-21T16:44:09Z] I had no difference?

[2021-06-21T16:46:00Z] kind of makes me think it isn't libudev-zero, then

[2021-06-21T16:46:22Z] <testuser[m]1> It isn't, he checked the difference in the old and new ver

[2021-06-21T16:46:32Z] What?

[2021-06-21T16:46:41Z] Oh yeah

[2021-06-21T16:46:45Z] Right right

[2021-06-21T16:46:52Z] But i think

[2021-06-21T16:46:54Z] Is eudev

[2021-06-21T16:47:01Z] Or some link problem

[2021-06-21T16:48:17Z] did you load a saved kernel config when you compiled it when reinstalling?

[2021-06-21T16:48:44Z] Hm

[2021-06-21T16:49:12Z] Not exactly

[2021-06-21T16:49:32Z] I just cp the saved config to the new kernel

[2021-06-21T16:49:46Z] and then ran make?

[2021-06-21T16:49:57Z] Yeah

[2021-06-21T16:50:04Z] Make menuconfig

[2021-06-21T16:50:14Z] And then i check if is all okay

[2021-06-21T16:50:25Z] And make the kernel

[2021-06-21T16:51:38Z] Based on the commit log here: https://github.com/kiss-community/repo/commits/master

[2021-06-21T16:51:57Z] there were changes to libudev-zero, rust, mesa, and sqlite

[2021-06-21T16:52:09Z] do you use mesa?

[2021-06-21T16:52:18Z] Yeah

[2021-06-21T16:52:33Z] I did the update in 18 june

[2021-06-21T16:52:54Z] did you have the extra ram usage prior to that update?

[2021-06-21T16:53:20Z] because of the packages listed, mesa would be the first one i'd suspect

[2021-06-21T16:53:27Z] Noup

[2021-06-21T16:53:33Z] I had not extra ram prior

[2021-06-21T16:53:39Z] Just post update

[2021-06-21T16:54:10Z] Yeah maybe mesa

[2021-06-21T16:54:34Z] But so why i had no difference between eudev and libudev-zero

[2021-06-21T16:54:59Z] well, why /would/ there be a difference?

[2021-06-21T16:55:05Z] Is like i said everytime when i made this change i see a ram difference

[2021-06-21T16:55:43Z] Because why eudev and mdev will be no difference in usage?

[2021-06-21T16:56:54Z] again, why /would/ there be a difference?

[2021-06-21T17:00:22Z] perhaps i am a little confused with what you're reporting. based on your statements, you saw no difference between eudev and libudev-zero and mdev? so what makes you suspect something in there being at fault?

[2021-06-21T17:00:59Z] Because when i use libudev-zero with mdev

[2021-06-21T17:01:06Z] I noticed everytime

[2021-06-21T17:01:12Z] A differecen in ram

[2021-06-21T17:01:23Z] Compared when i use just eudev

[2021-06-21T17:02:10Z] I made install of kiss for more than just one time and everytime i see the same

[2021-06-21T17:02:36Z] And why will not be ram difference between udev and mdev with libudev-zero

[2021-06-21T17:02:50Z] there shouldn't be a 20MB difference in RAM usage between those

[2021-06-21T17:03:07Z] <testuser[m]1> Yeah the device manager won't even take near 20mb ram total

[2021-06-21T17:03:36Z] can you try an older mesa version to see if you still have that usage

[2021-06-21T17:03:41Z] just to rule that out

[2021-06-21T17:04:02Z] Yeah 20mb maybe is big but what is the ideal?

[2021-06-21T17:04:14Z] Because when i try is like 0 ram difference

[2021-06-21T17:05:10Z] i wouldn't expect more than a few MB. Say... 5.

[2021-06-21T17:05:44Z] Yeah

[2021-06-21T17:05:56Z] So i just drop it

[2021-06-21T17:06:02Z] If its mesa

[2021-06-21T17:06:14Z] I will be with mesa update

[2021-06-21T17:06:32Z] And you gays said is not libudev-zero or eudev

[2021-06-21T17:06:46Z] So its closed

[2021-06-21T17:07:08Z] we didn't say it /wasn't/, we were trying to narrow it down and understand why you thought it /was/

[2021-06-21T17:08:02Z] What are the older version of mesa?

[2021-06-21T17:08:36Z] 21.1.2 was the previous one

[2021-06-21T17:08:42Z] Okay

[2021-06-21T17:08:45Z] I will check

[2021-06-21T17:08:46Z] https://github.com/mesa3d/mesa/releases/tag/mesa-21.1.2

[2021-06-21T17:11:38Z] <testuser[m]1> omanom are you working on the actual piss project

[2021-06-21T17:12:49Z] i was playing around with it, just to do it

[2021-06-21T17:13:01Z] not as a formal project/effort though

[2021-06-21T17:30:43Z] testuser[m]1 here's what i have so far: https://0x0.st/-LgD.py

[2021-06-21T17:31:00Z] <testuser[m]1> Lol not that

[2021-06-21T17:31:11Z] <testuser[m]1> You did the kiss search thingy right

[2021-06-21T17:31:14Z] <testuser[m]1> Or was it this one only

[2021-06-21T17:31:27Z] yeah, i got search and list done

[2021-06-21T17:31:53Z] i wanted to reorganize stuff though. originally i was doing almost a line-by-line port, i'd like to attack it from a different angle

[2021-06-21T17:33:15Z] everything (so far) has been implementable through standard libs, but the time it takes to import them just kills performance compared to the normal shell script

[2021-06-21T17:35:36Z] <testuser[m]1> Just import asyncio to go big fast, compensate for slow imports

[2021-06-21T17:37:31Z] there's not really anything to make asynchronous though, "unfortunately"

[2021-06-21T17:37:43Z] <testuser[m]1> Joke

[2021-06-21T17:37:54Z] lmao whoosh, sorry

[2021-06-21T17:47:58Z] Compiled mesa 21.1.2

[2021-06-21T17:48:01Z] No difference

[2021-06-21T17:48:59Z] darn :( thank you for trying

[2021-06-21T17:59:00Z] any eiwd users here? the package in community and midfavila's repo doesnt install iwctl, so how am I supposed to control it?

[2021-06-21T18:03:47Z] See eiwd article

[2021-06-21T18:03:52Z] In k1sslinux.org

[2021-06-21T18:04:04Z] Easy do connect wifi

[2021-06-21T18:14:12Z] acheam, It just works.

[2021-06-21T18:14:22Z] not for me :(

[2021-06-21T18:14:22Z] you can start and stop the eiwd service.

[2021-06-21T18:14:33Z] I am running the service, but its still disconnected

[2021-06-21T18:16:20Z] Yeah, on my end I have to fiddle with the network name because my ssid contains spaces -.-

[2021-06-21T18:16:24Z] https://envs.sh/9M.jpg

[2021-06-21T18:16:43Z] mine is pretty straight forward, no spaces, standard wpa

[2021-06-21T18:17:07Z] <testuser[m]1> How big is that image

[2021-06-21T18:17:09Z] have you tried the service?

[2021-06-21T18:19:15Z] testuser[m]1: 11mb my phone makes massive images and videos

[2021-06-21T18:19:26Z] blame the lineageos devs for that

[2021-06-21T18:19:36Z] <testuser[m]1> Lol it's still only half loaded

[2021-06-21T18:19:45Z] claudia: yes but not thoroughly

[2021-06-21T18:19:47Z] lol

[2021-06-21T18:20:39Z] https://github.com/GunnarMonell/fbgrab

[2021-06-21T18:21:12Z] there's a way to go directly through imagemagick's convert tool but i don't remember it

[2021-06-21T18:21:33Z] hm but then you wouldn't be able to share it, since you don't have wifi lol never mind

[2021-06-21T18:21:48Z] lol yes I know how to take a screenshot

[2021-06-21T18:21:50Z] I use maim

[2021-06-21T18:22:18Z] but I dont want to start up WPA supplicant and dhcpcd just for a picture

[2021-06-21T18:22:27Z] no luck with the service

[2021-06-21T18:22:32Z] network unreachable still

[2021-06-21T18:22:45Z] and I dont know where to find relevant logs, etc

[2021-06-21T18:22:50Z] do you have openresolv installed as well?

[2021-06-21T18:23:11Z] also double-check the date and time are correct, i had that issue once

[2021-06-21T18:24:28Z] yes and yes

[2021-06-21T18:29:06Z] all the service script does is exec iwd -d, you could try running that to see if its picking up your configuration

[2021-06-21T18:31:31Z] well in your case itd be doas iwd -d

[2021-06-21T18:31:50Z] trying that now

[2021-06-21T18:31:59Z] hmm looks like it does factually connect

[2021-06-21T18:32:30Z] it says "old stste: connexting, new state: connected"

[2021-06-21T18:32:58Z] so maybe openresolv is the issue

[2021-06-21T18:33:14Z] dhcpcd says no valid interfaces found

[2021-06-21T18:34:09Z] resolvconf -l wlan0 returns

[2021-06-21T18:35:42Z] what does ip a say your wireless interface name is?

[2021-06-21T18:35:52Z] wlan0

[2021-06-21T18:36:00Z] ok, just wanted to confirm

[2021-06-21T18:36:41Z] resolvconf -l wlan0 returns no resolv.conf for interface wlan0

[2021-06-21T18:37:08Z] you could try the same thing with dhcpcd -- run doas dhcpcd wlan0

[2021-06-21T18:37:50Z] dhcpcd runs, but doesn't generate a resolv.conf, and network is still unreachable

[2021-06-21T18:38:15Z] there is a blank etc/resolv.conf created by resolvconf/open resolve

[2021-06-21T18:38:25Z] so you tried doas resolvconf -u

[2021-06-21T18:38:51Z] <testuser[m]1> Does iwd need resolvconf ?

[2021-06-21T18:39:49Z] it uses openresolv

[2021-06-21T18:40:00Z] <testuser[m]1> Oh

[2021-06-21T18:40:01Z] afaict for most use cases on KISS, yes

[2021-06-21T18:40:10Z] but its not a hard dependency

[2021-06-21T18:41:37Z] argh

[2021-06-21T18:43:18Z] hmm manually creating resolv.conf doesnt help eithet

[2021-06-21T18:44:34Z] all online documentation just says to use iwctl...

[2021-06-21T18:45:06Z] does dhcpcd have any output when run manually

[2021-06-21T18:46:25Z] sending commands to dhcpcd

[2021-06-21T18:46:29Z] or smthng like that

[2021-06-21T18:46:44Z] unrelated: isn't eiwd kinda lacking behind iwd, considering dylans status?

[2021-06-21T18:47:04Z] illiliti has a fork

[2021-06-21T18:47:22Z] ah nice, I will probably switch then

[2021-06-21T18:47:50Z] went with wpa_supplicant because I thought eiwd is rip

[2021-06-21T18:49:24Z] I'd use WPA supplicant but I eventually need more than just wpa

[2021-06-21T19:49:49Z] <E5ten[m]> I'm sure this has already come up here since it seems his first contribution since the gap was over a week ago, but TIL dylan's back on github lol

[2021-06-21T19:52:43Z] acheam iwctl requires dbus

[2021-06-21T19:52:49Z] you have to write configuration files

[2021-06-21T19:53:00Z] iwd will automatically connect to an appropriate access point

[2021-06-21T19:53:09Z] i recommend using iw

[2021-06-21T19:53:24Z] it provides dbus-less network scanning and other useful wireless controls.

[2021-06-21T19:53:37Z] Thanks

[2021-06-21T19:53:57Z] man iwd.config

[2021-06-21T19:54:01Z] in section five i believe

[2021-06-21T19:54:06Z] it allows you to set dns there

[2021-06-21T19:54:10Z] but resolv.conf should also work

[2021-06-21T19:54:31Z] i don't bother with DHCPCD because DHCP is an abomination, so you're on your own there.

[2021-06-21T20:00:03Z] E5ten[m] yeah consensus here was we'll leave him be, and let him decide if he wants to drop back in or not

[2021-06-21T21:21:27Z] Guys

[2021-06-21T21:21:43Z] Just fucking weird stuff happens

[2021-06-21T21:21:48Z] Probably is mesa

[2021-06-21T21:22:13Z] I just boot my kiss a few minutes ago and is okay again

[2021-06-21T21:22:38Z] Strange because i did the reboot when i compiled the previous mesa package