2021-03-02T00:49:18 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> acheam, afaik the only distro that cared and managed to build systemd against musl is yocto
2021-03-02T00:49:41 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> they have a bunch of patches in their repo
2021-03-02T00:50:04 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> because systemd is decidely glibc-only
2021-03-02T00:50:29 #kisslinux ah yes tracer uses glibc. critical detail
2021-03-02T00:50:30 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> attitude on bugtracker is basically "either you do everything like glibc does or fuck off"
2021-03-02T00:51:01 #kisslinux that's a very funny position to hold when the alternative describes itself as 'does things correctly'
2021-03-02T00:51:46 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> nod
2021-03-02T00:51:48 #kisslinux hmm, I actually didn't think that that would be an issue, thanks sh4rm4^bnc.
2021-03-02T00:52:42 #kisslinux considering systemd devs tried to get kernel devs to make BREAKING changes for their project, I find it unsurprising (:
2021-03-02T00:53:49 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> wow, i wish i had a link to that one bug i reported myself to the systemd bugtracker
2021-03-02T00:54:15 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> poettering himself responded, and he was arrogant af
2021-03-02T00:54:20 #kisslinux i mean i guess its fine, coz it just means musl distros have less reason to bother with systemd
2021-03-02T00:55:28 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> yeah, i'm not particularly unhappy about it
2021-03-02T00:57:51 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> and tbh, since sabotage only starts 5 services on boot, even sysvinit scripts would be a helluva lot faster than systemd's super-duper-parallel service boot
2021-03-02T00:59:40 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> kinda funny when i recall my debian 6 vm that took like 40 seconds to bring up exim even though i installed netboot image and never configured it to start a fucking smtp server on boot
2021-03-02T01:00:54 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> and wasnt parallel booting speed the #1 selling point of systemd?
2021-03-02T01:01:32 #kisslinux not sure tbh, i know that the monolith structure is a selling point for "ease and stability"
2021-03-02T01:01:36 #kisslinux but idk 'bout speed
2021-03-02T01:01:37 #kisslinux maybe in 2010...
2021-03-02T01:04:03 #kisslinux sh4rm4^bnc: ataraxia linux uses systemd
2021-03-02T01:04:27 #kisslinux smh tho
2021-03-02T01:04:44 #kisslinux dylan is no longer bdfl for a few days and...
2021-03-02T01:05:06 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> heh
2021-03-02T01:06:20 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T01:07:34 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> ah, ataraxia is protonesso's distro
2021-03-02T01:08:03 #kisslinux i love this little sphere of minimalist distros
2021-03-02T01:08:25 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i recall his previous 2 distro attempts, where he used some scripts to generate a commit history of like 10K commits
2021-03-02T01:09:14 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> probably to make it look mature or something
2021-03-02T01:09:18 #kisslinux jedahan used a script like that to spell out ABOLISH ICE in his green squares
2021-03-02T01:09:21 #kisslinux lmao
2021-03-02T01:09:31 #kisslinux lmao champ
2021-03-02T01:10:47 #kisslinux for (i=0; i<1000000000000; i++); do; echo "." > file; git commit file -m "this distro's real!"; done; git push
2021-03-02T01:12:39 #kisslinux absolute unit
2021-03-02T01:13:08 #kisslinux would work with Dylan's commit style :P
2021-03-02T01:13:46 #kisslinux s/this distro's real!/update/
2021-03-02T01:13:47 #kisslinux for (i=0; i<1000000000000; i++); do; echo "." > file; git commit file -m "update"; done; git push
2021-03-02T01:17:47 #kisslinux perfect
2021-03-02T01:21:02 #kisslinux * dilyn chef's kiss
2021-03-02T01:21:25 #kisslinux check out this bespoke distro
2021-03-02T01:21:28 #kisslinux commits just say 're'
2021-03-02T01:21:52 #kisslinux commits are just an ever increasing amount of e's
2021-03-02T01:23:11 #kisslinux systemreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEeEeEeEeEeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2021-03-02T01:24:48 #kisslinux today's been a good day for the fortune file lol
2021-03-02T01:25:04 #kisslinux we're already at 40 quotes
2021-03-02T01:25:15 #kisslinux I may need to buy a new hard drive to store these
2021-03-02T01:31:21 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Jul 21 16:01:27 h by protonesso Pull Request #4 pikhq/sabotage GitHub
2021-03-02T01:31:21 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Jul 21 16:01:35 'protonesso wants to merge 5,035 commits into pikhq:master from sabotage-linux:master'
2021-03-02T01:31:23 #kisslinux might be a good idea lol
2021-03-02T01:31:34 #kisslinux yeesh
2021-03-02T01:32:11 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Aug 12 21:15:56 static busybox is bad busybox! by protonesso Pull Request #3 ivandavidov/minimal-linux-script GitHub
2021-03-02T01:33:38 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Feb 04 22:03:31 Some people says you're weird
2021-03-02T01:33:38 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Feb 04 22:03:38 say*
2021-03-02T01:33:38 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Feb 04 22:19:15 I know a guy who left sabotage team
2021-03-02T01:33:38 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Feb 04 22:19:23 because you're weird
2021-03-02T01:34:20 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> he didn't seem particularly bright when he interacted with me....
2021-03-02T01:38:04 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> his first distro was basically a straight copy of sabotage with 5 things changed but 0 credits
2021-03-02T01:38:44 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Oct 11 20:14:39 why you not renamed sabotage
2021-03-02T01:38:54 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Oct 11 20:18:51 it is the first distro uses musl libc, but small
2021-03-02T01:38:54 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> group of people know it
2021-03-02T01:38:54 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Oct 11 20:19:16 and that very sad
2021-03-02T01:39:11 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Oct 11 20:21:33 and you are made cool sys libs such as netbsd-cu
2021-03-02T01:39:12 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> rses and libnl-tiny
2021-03-02T01:39:12 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> Oct 11 20:23:20 for me: sabotage is cool distro for embedded devices
2021-03-02T01:40:23 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> anyway, he seems to be quite productive
2021-03-02T01:42:41 #kisslinux why would you rename it wtf xD
2021-03-02T01:43:13 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> to make it "mine" i guess...
2021-03-02T01:43:22 #kisslinux odd
2021-03-02T02:11:01 #kisslinux stupid ZNC
2021-03-02T02:34:10 #kisslinux when you bump a package version does the relver reset?
2021-03-02T02:34:48 #kisslinux yes
2021-03-02T02:35:00 #kisslinux thanks!
2021-03-02T02:35:10 #kisslinux i'm a noob at kiss lol
2021-03-02T02:47:14 #kisslinux what ist relver?
2021-03-02T02:48:34 #kisslinux the second field in the version file
2021-03-02T02:48:44 #kisslinux oh relative versin
2021-03-02T02:48:47 #kisslinux yeah aight
2021-03-02T02:49:19 #kisslinux I know all the lingo from being in this channel, but don't know any of the technical stuff :p
2021-03-02T02:49:37 #kisslinux im learning a lot just from running kiss tbh
2021-03-02T02:49:38 #kisslinux its neat
2021-03-02T03:00:55 #kisslinux the relver is the repo version relative to the upstream version
2021-03-02T03:01:14 #kisslinux you bump relver in cases where you add a new patch, fix a bug, tweak the build file, add something, etc.etc.
2021-03-02T03:01:30 #kisslinux do not bump relvers for depends file changes
2021-03-02T03:01:31 #kisslinux yeah makes sense
2021-03-02T03:01:34 #kisslinux :)
2021-03-02T03:01:52 #kisslinux :))))))))
2021-03-02T03:02:05 #kisslinux :)))))))))))))))))
2021-03-02T03:02:13 #kisslinux how was the pizza, mid?
2021-03-02T03:02:18 #kisslinux pizza was p good
2021-03-02T03:02:24 #kisslinux just kinda sitting around being a doomer now
2021-03-02T03:02:29 #kisslinux breathing
2021-03-02T03:02:29 #kisslinux etc
2021-03-02T03:02:30 #kisslinux as you do
2021-03-02T03:02:37 #kisslinux as you do.
2021-03-02T03:02:45 #kisslinux yup.
2021-03-02T03:02:55 #kisslinux yeuup
2021-03-02T03:02:59 #kisslinux * midfavila sips
2021-03-02T03:03:02 #kisslinux yeeeeeeup
2021-03-02T03:03:21 #kisslinux wolfenstein was a good game
2021-03-02T03:04:41 #kisslinux i still need to play the OG wolfenstein games
2021-03-02T03:05:01 #kisslinux I played wolfenstein-in-doom
2021-03-02T03:05:20 #kisslinux which is like
2021-03-02T03:05:21 #kisslinux close eonugh ig
2021-03-02T03:05:27 #kisslinux yeah close enuf
2021-03-02T03:05:35 #kisslinux ive only played the new ones
2021-03-02T03:05:46 #kisslinux aren't the new ones kind of shit
2021-03-02T03:05:51 #kisslinux and by kind of I mean a lot
2021-03-02T03:05:55 #kisslinux nah they're pre good imo
2021-03-02T03:06:11 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-03-02T03:06:16 #kisslinux i'm more of an RPG guy
2021-03-02T03:06:21 #kisslinux same tbh
2021-03-02T03:06:32 #kisslinux been playing a lot of cataclysm lately
2021-03-02T03:06:36 #kisslinux i just find the history of old school rpgs cool
2021-03-02T03:07:04 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> there's only ever been a single good 3d game, UT99
2021-03-02T03:10:26 #kisslinux <drunken_southern> What web browser do most kiss users use? I like qutebrowser, but if I remember having tons of trouble building it for kiss last time I tried
2021-03-02T03:10:41 #kisslinux i use FF coz im too lazy to build something else
2021-03-02T03:10:58 #kisslinux i use a pale moon fork
2021-03-02T03:12:15 #kisslinux <drunken_southern> I haven't got a web browser installed on this machine yet. my gemini browser runs fine without having a dependancy hell 0.o
2021-03-02T03:12:29 #kisslinux what gemini browser you using?
2021-03-02T03:12:39 #kisslinux <drunken_southern> just amfora
2021-03-02T03:12:59 #kisslinux yeah when i packed that it only needed go as a make dep
2021-03-02T03:13:28 #kisslinux <drunken_southern> thanks Xeno-Hypster :)
2021-03-02T03:13:34 #kisslinux lmao
2021-03-02T03:13:37 #kisslinux np :P
2021-03-02T03:13:54 #kisslinux drunken_southern: firefox, palemoon, and chromium are popular
2021-03-02T03:14:00 #kisslinux pretty much the usual slate of browsers
2021-03-02T03:14:28 #kisslinux should package pale moon as the standard browser
2021-03-02T03:14:30 #kisslinux no rust
2021-03-02T03:14:33 #kisslinux :3
2021-03-02T03:15:02 #kisslinux chromium is bae
2021-03-02T03:15:09 #kisslinux botnet lite
2021-03-02T03:15:16 #kisslinux no rust tho
2021-03-02T03:15:24 #kisslinux google tho
2021-03-02T03:15:28 #kisslinux ^
2021-03-02T03:15:29 #kisslinux i should try to package edbrowse
2021-03-02T03:15:40 #kisslinux edbrowse would be cool if it was just a browser
2021-03-02T03:15:50 #kisslinux <drunken_southern> i may have to figure out distcc before i try compiling a browser on this machine
2021-03-02T03:15:54 #kisslinux UNGOOGLED chromium
2021-03-02T03:15:58 #kisslinux >=|
2021-03-02T03:16:02 #kisslinux diet botnet lite
2021-03-02T03:16:11 #kisslinux you're just reducing it smh
2021-03-02T03:16:19 #kisslinux seamonkey or pale meme
2021-03-02T03:16:24 #kisslinux those are your browser choices now
2021-03-02T03:16:26 #kisslinux choose, boiboi
2021-03-02T03:16:29 #kisslinux botnet how
2021-03-02T03:16:31 #kisslinux s/boiboi/soiboi/
2021-03-02T03:16:32 #kisslinux choose, soiboi
2021-03-02T03:16:32 #kisslinux its a non-botnet browser written by a company who also writes a botnet browser
2021-03-02T03:16:48 #kisslinux I Can't Believe It's Not Chrome!
2021-03-02T03:17:43 #kisslinux mid, stop taking a monopoly in the fortune file
2021-03-02T03:18:04 #kisslinux fuckin make me
2021-03-02T03:18:15 #kisslinux can't tell me what to do
2021-03-02T03:18:44 #kisslinux mid, stop taking a monopoly in the fortune file
2021-03-02T03:19:03 #kisslinux mid, stop taking a monopoly in the fortune file
2021-03-02T03:19:09 #kisslinux * midfavila smacks both with newspaper
2021-03-02T03:19:14 #kisslinux gtfo
2021-03-02T03:19:19 #kisslinux i'm the captain now
2021-03-02T03:19:28 #kisslinux and I'll take as much of the monopoly board as I goddamn please
2021-03-02T03:19:32 #kisslinux now pay your fucking taxes
2021-03-02T03:19:34 #kisslinux sorry mid, you lost the election
2021-03-02T03:19:35 #kisslinux or i'm evicting you
2021-03-02T03:19:37 #kisslinux NO
2021-03-02T03:19:39 #kisslinux THIS IS A COUP
2021-03-02T03:19:52 #kisslinux respect my authority
2021-03-02T03:19:54 #kisslinux REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2021-03-02T03:22:04 #kisslinux nah
2021-03-02T03:24:09 #kisslinux +m
2021-03-02T03:24:26 #kisslinux * dilyn waves goodbye
2021-03-02T03:24:36 #kisslinux You cannot silence the silent majority
2021-03-02T03:24:41 #kisslinux for we are already quiet
2021-03-02T03:24:46 #kisslinux and that is our power
2021-03-02T03:24:49 #kisslinux :thinking:
2021-03-02T03:43:58 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-03-02T03:47:33 #kisslinux acheam: mind dropping a link to the fortune file?
2021-03-02T03:47:41 #kisslinux lol maybe that should be in the /topic
2021-03-02T03:49:04 #kisslinux kiedtl: https://git.sr.ht/~armaan/kiss-repo/tree/main/item/fortune
2021-03-02T03:50:05 #kisslinux thanks
2021-03-02T03:51:40 #kisslinux you have to run "fortune -c kiss" to get just the kiss fortunes by the way
2021-03-02T03:51:57 #kisslinux I'm not installing it rn, but thanks
2021-03-02T03:52:04 #kisslinux lel i installed it so that was useful
2021-03-02T03:52:11 #kisslinux :)
2021-03-02T03:56:03 #kisslinux I feel like I have to install it
2021-03-02T03:56:36 #kisslinux now I can tell you about how awful your macbook is in comparison to my panasonic, even without an internet connection
2021-03-02T03:56:38 #kisslinux my plan progresses
2021-03-02T03:56:41 #kisslinux muahahaha
2021-03-02T03:57:08 #kisslinux oh lord now theres no reprieve from mid
2021-03-02T03:57:37 #kisslinux lmao your build file is bad lad what is this
2021-03-02T03:57:40 #kisslinux fear my shitty memes and autistic rhetoric
2021-03-02T03:57:54 #kisslinux yeah i had to doas kiss b
2021-03-02T03:59:58 #kisslinux just do
2021-03-02T04:00:11 #kisslinux install -Dm755 fortune "$1/usr/bin/fortune"
2021-03-02T04:00:13 #kisslinux install -Dm644 kiss "$1/usr/share/fortune/kiss"
2021-03-02T04:00:16 #kisslinux install -Dm644 cookie "$1/usr/share/fortune/cookie"
2021-03-02T04:00:17 #kisslinux ez
2021-03-02T04:01:58 #kisslinux lmfao >> "I say "no a lot""
2021-03-02T04:02:05 #kisslinux this is the best way to read that
2021-03-02T04:08:17 #kisslinux >somewhere drew devault needs to change his pants and he
2021-03-02T04:08:19 #kisslinux doesn't know why
2021-03-02T04:08:27 #kisslinux thanks, dilyn
2021-03-02T04:08:27 #kisslinux am I the only one who doesn't understand that?
2021-03-02T04:09:20 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> that was when dylin joked about adding wayland to repo
2021-03-02T04:11:30 #kisslinux joked?
2021-03-02T04:11:49 #kisslinux he doesnt joke about wayland
2021-03-02T04:11:52 #kisslinux still don't understand the joke, lol. I'm dense as hell.
2021-03-02T04:12:21 #kisslinux yeah I don't really get it either, just thought it was funny...
2021-03-02T04:12:31 #kisslinux the joke is cooooooom
2021-03-02T04:12:35 #kisslinux drew is a wayland adovocate
2021-03-02T04:12:36 #kisslinux ddevault loves wayland and wanted KISS to switch from xorg because it jives better with the philosophy
2021-03-02T04:12:46 #kisslinux oh also yes
2021-03-02T04:12:47 #kisslinux jizz
2021-03-02T04:13:01 #kisslinux i understood that part
2021-03-02T04:13:16 #kisslinux "oh god yes adopt sway as the default compositor"
2021-03-02T04:13:20 #kisslinux not necessarily because it jived with the philosophy
2021-03-02T04:13:27 #kisslinux and yes
2021-03-02T04:13:30 #kisslinux because complaining is his hobby horse
2021-03-02T04:13:31 #kisslinux that was exactly the reason
2021-03-02T04:13:37 #kisslinux at least in the git issue
2021-03-02T04:13:43 #kisslinux ye
2021-03-02T04:13:47 #kisslinux * kiedtl off
2021-03-02T04:13:49 #kisslinux cya
2021-03-02T04:13:55 #kisslinux bye kiedtl
2021-03-02T04:14:00 #kisslinux I mean I love cankin' it to wayland as much as the next guy
2021-03-02T04:14:07 #kisslinux s/cankin'/crankin'/
2021-03-02T04:14:09 #kisslinux I mean I love crankin' it to wayland as much as the next guy
2021-03-02T04:14:11 #kisslinux gngn
2021-03-02T04:14:45 #kisslinux i too enjoy participating in circlejerks in obscure eye are see gahnoo's not yoonix loonix chats
2021-03-02T04:15:13 #kisslinux that's why I'm here after all
2021-03-02T04:15:44 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T04:15:51 #kisslinux wait I'm supposed to be off, bye
2021-03-02T04:50:08 #kisslinux man
2021-03-02T04:50:12 #kisslinux i wish it rained more in my city
2021-03-02T15:23:45 #kisslinux I woke up
2021-03-02T15:23:45 #kisslinux Went out to get my morning tea
2021-03-02T15:23:45 #kisslinux Opened the little drip-strainer I use to brew it
2021-03-02T15:23:45 #kisslinux And a fucking spider crawled out
2021-03-02T15:23:59 #kisslinux somehow I feel like today is going to be even worse than yesterday
2021-03-02T15:27:08 #kisslinux mid what is the name of the pale moon for you use again?
2021-03-02T15:27:25 #kisslinux well, technically it's unnamed
2021-03-02T15:27:26 #kisslinux s/for/fork/
2021-03-02T15:27:27 #kisslinux mid what is the name of the pale moon fork you use again?
2021-03-02T15:27:32 #kisslinux but a lot of people call it the nuegia browser
2021-03-02T15:27:47 #kisslinux on account of the source being hosted at https://git.nuegia.net/webbrowser.git
2021-03-02T15:28:06 #kisslinux personally I think it should be nuegia navigator
2021-03-02T15:30:26 #kisslinux do you have a build available anywhere?
2021-03-02T15:31:32 #kisslinux Yeah, I have a glibc build in my repo
2021-03-02T15:31:39 #kisslinux https://git.sdf.org/midfavila/kiss-mfavila/
2021-03-02T15:31:42 #kisslinux should be under testing
2021-03-02T15:31:59 #kisslinux yeah
2021-03-02T15:32:00 #kisslinux it is
2021-03-02T15:32:21 #kisslinux my build uses gtk2 but you can build it with gtk3 too
2021-03-02T15:32:33 #kisslinux i'll have to put together a from-source package Soon:tm:
2021-03-02T15:33:25 #kisslinux mine is also 64-bit just in case you're running a 32-bit machine
2021-03-02T15:33:33 #kisslinux not that most people are at this point, but still
2021-03-02T15:35:51 #kisslinux rebuilt chromium, it's 100MB smaller. #minimalism
2021-03-02T15:36:00 #kisslinux mememalism
2021-03-02T15:36:29 #kisslinux no TRUE minimalist uses GUI mode applications
2021-03-02T15:36:35 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> How
2021-03-02T15:37:08 #kisslinux maybe
2021-03-02T15:37:08 #kisslinux /shrug
2021-03-02T15:37:28 #kisslinux let me see if I can suss out what might've done it
2021-03-02T15:37:37 #kisslinux did you forget to strip the old binary?
2021-03-02T15:37:39 #kisslinux that'd probably do it
2021-03-02T15:37:46 #kisslinux i never forget
2021-03-02T15:37:54 #kisslinux i need to add stripping to my packages
2021-03-02T15:38:03 #kisslinux as it stands I just kind of
2021-03-02T15:38:07 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> is it 120mb now?
2021-03-02T15:38:08 #kisslinux sls strip /usr/bin/*
2021-03-02T15:38:10 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> cux regular is 200+
2021-03-02T15:38:14 #kisslinux which is... haphazardous
2021-03-02T15:39:17 #kisslinux 190
2021-03-02T15:39:22 #kisslinux was previously 390
2021-03-02T15:39:29 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> nice
2021-03-02T15:39:38 #kisslinux meanwhile my meme browser is 147k
2021-03-02T15:39:39 #kisslinux lmao
2021-03-02T15:39:49 #kisslinux chromelets btfo
2021-03-02T15:40:09 #kisslinux http://ix.io/2Rqw that's the diff (some of the -/+ are wrong because things just MOVED so it's harder to parse), not sure entirely what did it
2021-03-02T15:40:20 #kisslinux i use chrome because it's the best
2021-03-02T15:40:24 #kisslinux chrome is the corvette of browsers
2021-03-02T15:40:28 #kisslinux Tha Bes:tm:
2021-03-02T15:40:43 #kisslinux and that's dilyn approved(tm)(r)(c)
2021-03-02T15:40:46 #kisslinux if you're going to use a proprietary browser at least use a based browser
2021-03-02T15:40:47 #kisslinux like vivaldi
2021-03-02T15:40:53 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> its not even proprietary
2021-03-02T15:40:55 #kisslinux opera or bust lads
2021-03-02T15:41:01 #kisslinux vivaldi is like old opera
2021-03-02T15:41:07 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> dilyn did you try using git apply instead of toybox patch
2021-03-02T15:41:08 #kisslinux which is why I like it
2021-03-02T15:41:11 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> so you won't have that mess in repo
2021-03-02T15:41:18 #kisslinux i'd be using Fifth right now but it hasn't been updated since 2014
2021-03-02T15:41:29 #kisslinux lmao I am slowly cleaning up the package :P
2021-03-02T15:41:43 #kisslinux I wanted to play videos on twitch again so I had to enable proprietary codecs :'(
2021-03-02T15:41:53 #kisslinux >twitch
2021-03-02T15:41:54 #kisslinux cringe
2021-03-02T15:41:58 #kisslinux having fun is cringe dilyn
2021-03-02T15:42:15 #kisslinux i just want to watch chess
2021-03-02T15:42:28 #kisslinux C r i n g e a n d n e r d p i l l e d
2021-03-02T15:42:40 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T15:42:51 #kisslinux hey dog my elo is almost my waist size soooooo
2021-03-02T15:42:54 #kisslinux 8D
2021-03-02T15:43:00 #kisslinux so, when was chromium built? I didn't know that happened
2021-03-02T15:43:03 #kisslinux >elo
2021-03-02T15:43:09 #kisslinux elo
2021-03-02T15:43:11 #kisslinux is this some amerifat slang I don't know yet
2021-03-02T15:43:12 #kisslinux how do you pronounce that
2021-03-02T15:43:15 #kisslinux ey-low
2021-03-02T15:43:17 #kisslinux i would imagine
2021-03-02T15:43:19 #kisslinux e-low
2021-03-02T15:43:22 #kisslinux ee-low
2021-03-02T15:43:26 #kisslinux it's a chess rating system
2021-03-02T15:43:26 #kisslinux eee-low
2021-03-02T15:43:30 #kisslinux for how fucking leet you are
2021-03-02T15:43:32 #kisslinux o_o
2021-03-02T15:43:37 #kisslinux oh so you're not very leet then
2021-03-02T15:43:39 #kisslinux gotcha
2021-03-02T15:43:40 #kisslinux extra-low
2021-03-02T15:43:54 #kisslinux me af
2021-03-02T15:44:02 #kisslinux yeah i'm fucking trash at chess
2021-03-02T15:44:05 #kisslinux if you can't even beat deep thought with anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti computer chess then get the fuck out
2021-03-02T15:44:12 #kisslinux that's why I make fun of you nerds on the internet
2021-03-02T15:44:13 #kisslinux luser
2021-03-02T15:44:24 #kisslinux thomas watson is laughing at you
2021-03-02T15:45:16 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> dilyn what do you do in the 3 days that your pc spends building that trash
2021-03-02T15:45:19 #kisslinux and then kiwiirc inexplicably broke wth
2021-03-02T15:45:28 #kisslinux I do my job like I'm supposed to :v
2021-03-02T15:45:51 #kisslinux imagine having a job
2021-03-02T15:45:52 #kisslinux yesterday was my most productive day at work since february, and it's all because chromium was building
2021-03-02T15:45:53 #kisslinux lmao
2021-03-02T15:46:30 #kisslinux * kiedtl begins downloading chromium sources
2021-03-02T15:46:55 #kisslinux man I wish opera 12 had been open sourced
2021-03-02T15:47:08 #kisslinux having presto available would be p awesome
2021-03-02T15:47:19 #kisslinux dilyn: reminds me of when slock decided I shouldn't be using my laptop for a few days
2021-03-02T15:47:36 #kisslinux I should try modding slock
2021-03-02T15:47:36 #kisslinux aren't computers just the best
2021-03-02T15:47:45 #kisslinux I want to add an xdm-esque login prompt to it
2021-03-02T15:48:12 #kisslinux maybe a clock
2021-03-02T15:49:16 #kisslinux displaying the number of failed logins would be nice too
2021-03-02T15:49:30 #kisslinux but I guess at that point it's not memealist enough
2021-03-02T15:49:51 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> kiedtl you should probably drop the v8_enable_i18n line if you're using the community build, it breaks devtools and maybe some sites too
2021-03-02T15:50:10 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> i will fix it in next major release which is tomorrow probably
2021-03-02T15:51:15 #kisslinux testuser_[m]: ....what
2021-03-02T15:51:34 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> its a flag
2021-03-02T15:51:57 #kisslinux oh, are you referring to my downloads chromium sources? That was a joke, and I (sadly) am unable to use KISS anyway
2021-03-02T15:52:01 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> ah
2021-03-02T15:52:55 #kisslinux but congrats on getting chromium up and running, i know that's something dylan struggled with for a while
2021-03-02T15:53:09 #kisslinux cuckmium smh
2021-03-02T15:53:22 #kisslinux firefucks smh
2021-03-02T15:53:26 #kisslinux firefucks is cringe
2021-03-02T15:53:35 #kisslinux use NCSA Mosaic or gtfo
2021-03-02T15:53:35 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> All browsers are trash
2021-03-02T15:53:48 #kisslinux you're trash
2021-03-02T15:53:48 #kisslinux ^
2021-03-02T15:53:49 #kisslinux >:c
2021-03-02T15:53:51 #kisslinux oh whoops
2021-03-02T15:53:51 #kisslinux Except the one and only ...lynx!
2021-03-02T15:53:54 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T15:53:55 #kisslinux even acheam agrees
2021-03-02T15:53:59 #kisslinux meant to up arrow test user's message, not mid's
2021-03-02T15:53:59 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> lol
2021-03-02T15:54:03 #kisslinux too late
2021-03-02T15:54:08 #kisslinux your words are forever sealed
2021-03-02T15:54:17 #kisslinux and I mean lynx is unironically super based
2021-03-02T15:54:26 #kisslinux sealed up in the vaults of globbot
2021-03-02T15:54:34 #kisslinux other than the fact that it takes a billion and a half aeons to load fucking ANYTHING
2021-03-02T15:54:48 #kisslinux but I still optimize my site for text browser users
2021-03-02T15:55:00 #kisslinux because I'm just a cool guy like that
2021-03-02T15:56:03 #kisslinux then again it's basically just a plaintext site with some CSS to position shit
2021-03-02T15:56:06 #kisslinux this fucking mailing list
2021-03-02T15:56:07 #kisslinux https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005854.html
2021-03-02T15:56:16 #kisslinux * dilyn fans self
2021-03-02T15:56:34 #kisslinux how you gonna just slap someone through the internet like that
2021-03-02T15:56:35 #kisslinux should I get the fainting couch
2021-03-02T15:57:17 #kisslinux probably!
2021-03-02T15:58:18 #kisslinux the mastodon post the dude linked is pretty cringe
2021-03-02T15:58:23 #kisslinux but overall has a decent point
2021-03-02T15:58:43 #kisslinux i liked it
2021-03-02T15:58:49 #kisslinux the argument of "banning users for your own mental health" in particular is stupid. they're not doing anything to you smh
2021-03-02T15:59:12 #kisslinux petite has been trolling the ML for more than a year now.
2021-03-02T15:59:16 #kisslinux now, second they start actively harming other people, btfo them immediately
2021-03-02T15:59:26 #kisslinux there are bunch of users who have blocked him on their end
2021-03-02T16:00:06 #kisslinux okay so what's the problem
2021-03-02T16:00:25 #kisslinux the problem is there's people like me who think their contributions are garbage, they hate the entire enterprise, and should leave. but refuse to
2021-03-02T16:00:39 #kisslinux every time I read petite's emails I want to unsub
2021-03-02T16:00:42 #kisslinux block them
2021-03-02T16:00:44 #kisslinux problem solved
2021-03-02T16:00:45 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T16:00:47 #kisslinux next question plox
2021-03-02T16:01:00 #kisslinux sure, so instead of admins doing something the solution is that everyone else should do the thing the admin should do
2021-03-02T16:01:13 #kisslinux "I don't like them and their opinions" isn't a bannable offense
2021-03-02T16:01:17 #kisslinux the gemini ML is cringe
2021-03-02T16:01:19 #kisslinux ^^
2021-03-02T16:01:20 #kisslinux except for when the new users don't know that, and they got bombarded with a billion shitposts from heaven, think that's what it's like, and get out of dodge because they hate it?
2021-03-02T16:01:25 #kisslinux lmfao yes it IS
2021-03-02T16:01:28 #kisslinux dude
2021-03-02T16:01:34 #kisslinux if that was the case literally ban me rn m8
2021-03-02T16:01:37 #kisslinux all I do is shitpost
2021-03-02T16:01:38 #kisslinux anything is a bannable offense if you've properly defined the rules xD
2021-03-02T16:01:55 #kisslinux also, email signatures are cringe
2021-03-02T16:01:57 #kisslinux jfc the fortunes file is literally like 80% me shitposting
2021-03-02T16:01:59 #kisslinux :v
2021-03-02T16:03:46 #kisslinux anyway yeah most of that mastodon post was meh at best awful at worst
2021-03-02T16:04:06 #kisslinux but it's not like it matters anyway because internet forums are basically dead!
2021-03-02T16:04:11 #kisslinux i fucking LOVE 2021!
2021-03-02T16:04:18 #kisslinux I think that's only because you have this absurd notion that anybody should respect free speech because it's the pillar of freedom by which all things must be measured
2021-03-02T16:04:29 #kisslinux ok
2021-03-02T16:04:31 #kisslinux let this die
2021-03-02T16:04:35 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T16:04:39 #kisslinux freedom of expression is part of the IDHR
2021-03-02T16:04:41 #kisslinux just saying
2021-03-02T16:04:44 #kisslinux it's kinda important
2021-03-02T16:04:49 #kisslinux enough.
2021-03-02T16:04:52 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-03-02T16:04:57 #kisslinux b&
2021-03-02T16:04:57 #kisslinux We're not re-debating this here.
2021-03-02T16:05:10 #kisslinux is there a reason libjpeg is necessary?
2021-03-02T16:05:18 #kisslinux muh jaypeegees
2021-03-02T16:05:22 #kisslinux somebody wants it in community but like, turbo is just strictly better no?
2021-03-02T16:05:26 #kisslinux alpine has it for exactly one package...
2021-03-02T16:05:34 #kisslinux i imagine there's some old software that might need it
2021-03-02T16:05:44 #kisslinux i'd shunt it into the graveyard myself
2021-03-02T16:06:03 #kisslinux I think this mang just likes legacy software. he wants to add ctags, but not the new and current ctags. ctags from eleven years ago
2021-03-02T16:06:29 #kisslinux legacy software without a reason to be kept around should be pushed to the graveyard, imho
2021-03-02T16:06:36 #kisslinux give people a chance to fork it, then delete
2021-03-02T16:06:48 #kisslinux I mean I asked why he wants them, if he's got a good enough reason they can join the party
2021-03-02T16:06:54 #kisslinux but i ain't seein' it
2021-03-02T16:07:15 #kisslinux well, if turbo obseletes it for the past 20+ years then there's not a whole lotta reason
2021-03-02T16:24:50 #kisslinux us
2021-03-02T16:24:51 #kisslinux oop
2021-03-02T16:24:54 #kisslinux we
2021-03-02T16:25:39 #kisslinux usoopwe
2021-03-02T16:25:57 #kisslinux usoopweyou
2021-03-02T16:26:02 #kisslinux look what libinput has done smh
2021-03-02T16:26:12 #kisslinux just stop being a waylet
2021-03-02T16:26:14 #kisslinux even with trackpad disabled while typing i still get screwed
2021-03-02T16:26:19 #kisslinux come home, dilyn
2021-03-02T16:26:20 #kisslinux "<@dilyn> Let's just drop support for input devices"
2021-03-02T16:26:28 #kisslinux pls
2021-03-02T16:26:32 #kisslinux there will always be a place for you in the embrace of xorg
2021-03-02T16:26:47 #kisslinux i interface with my computer via a bluetooth chip i implanted in my brain
2021-03-02T16:26:52 #kisslinux dog i've never liked xorg
2021-03-02T16:27:06 #kisslinux don't mis-species me
2021-03-02T16:27:08 #kisslinux smh
2021-03-02T16:27:13 #kisslinux i'm a GOAT
2021-03-02T16:27:15 #kisslinux not a dog
2021-03-02T16:27:23 #kisslinux fuckin humans man
2021-03-02T16:27:27 #kisslinux lemme tell ya
2021-03-02T16:27:47 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T16:33:05 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> is there a preference between unbound, bind, or alternatives?
2021-03-02T16:33:34 #kisslinux "unbound"?
2021-03-02T16:34:02 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> dns resolver: https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/unbound/about/
2021-03-02T16:34:16 #kisslinux Oh
2021-03-02T16:34:34 #kisslinux I just point my resolv file at my router
2021-03-02T16:34:37 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-03-02T16:36:26 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i'd like to point mine at a dns server that goes right to the root servers, rather than going through my ISP or like, google's 8.8.8.8
2021-03-02T16:36:58 #kisslinux last I checked my setup just pulls from SDF
2021-03-02T16:39:23 #kisslinux quad9 is great
2021-03-02T16:42:17 #kisslinux i just filter stuff on my router
2021-03-02T16:42:21 #kisslinux ezpz
2021-03-02T16:42:52 #kisslinux for a while I used librenet since they're an altnet resolver too
2021-03-02T16:43:06 #kisslinux meaning no restrictions from ICANN's root server to deal with
2021-03-02T16:43:30 #kisslinux at least, I think it was called librenet
2021-03-02T16:46:41 #kisslinux yeah nah it was opennic
2021-03-02T16:48:00 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i'm using InterNIC's root server list
2021-03-02T16:48:10 #kisslinux I thought InterNIC was defunct?
2021-03-02T16:49:15 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://www.internic.net/domain/named.cache i dunno, last update was Feb 17th so not too long ago
2021-03-02T16:50:26 #kisslinux huh...
2021-03-02T16:52:15 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> IANA still points to internic's as well https://www.iana.org/domains/root/servers
2021-03-02T16:53:20 #kisslinux one thing I do want to get squared away is a DNS cache on my PC
2021-03-02T16:54:58 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i believe bind can be configured to do so fairly easily
2021-03-02T16:55:09 #kisslinux yeah, but then you have the entire BIND setup...
2021-03-02T16:55:16 #kisslinux which is a little overkill
2021-03-02T16:55:55 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> fair enough lol
2021-03-02T16:57:39 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> are there even any dns caching servers that work without needing a forwarding config set up too?
2021-03-02T16:58:19 #kisslinux i mean, doubt it
2021-03-02T16:58:32 #kisslinux i just want to reduce the need to constantly ping my router for DNS data
2021-03-02T16:58:46 #kisslinux it already handles resolving and shit for me
2021-03-02T16:59:18 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> dnsmasq sort of maybe?
2021-03-02T16:59:52 #kisslinux pretty sure there are daemons that are specifically for caching
2021-03-02T17:00:01 #kisslinux i don't need a resolver too
2021-03-02T17:00:49 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> ncsd looks like one?
2021-03-02T17:01:06 #kisslinux ah yes the north carolina school for the deaf
2021-03-02T17:01:07 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> nscd i mean
2021-03-02T17:01:11 #kisslinux my favorite caching daemon
2021-03-02T17:01:21 #kisslinux and yeah that name rings a bell
2021-03-02T17:01:23 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> lol i'll blame it on libinput
2021-03-02T17:02:01 #kisslinux also
2021-03-02T17:02:08 #kisslinux anyone who uses dark blue text on a black background?
2021-03-02T17:02:11 #kisslinux i'm coming to get you
2021-03-02T17:02:20 #kisslinux in minecraft
2021-03-02T17:04:58 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://github.com/pikhq/musl-nscd
2021-03-02T17:05:57 #kisslinux v cool
2021-03-02T17:10:29 #kisslinux that libc is so intimate with things like dns make me very uncomfortable
2021-03-02T17:10:50 #kisslinux it would be nice to have it all be external from the core system library
2021-03-02T17:11:08 #kisslinux but hasn't it always been that way in unix systems? i imagine it might be difficult to change that
2021-03-02T17:11:29 #kisslinux i mean, yes
2021-03-02T17:11:43 #kisslinux I'm not saying it should change I'm saying it makes me uncomfortable
2021-03-02T17:11:44 #kisslinux Well, it's better than having 10 different mutually-incompatible C networking libraries
2021-03-02T17:11:50 #kisslinux my reptile brain says 'no pls'
2021-03-02T17:12:12 #kisslinux right instead we just have four libcs which parse dns lists differently
2021-03-02T17:12:14 #kisslinux #better
2021-03-02T17:12:20 #kisslinux ^
2021-03-02T17:12:27 #kisslinux both situations are inelegant
2021-03-02T17:12:38 #kisslinux but, meh
2021-03-02T17:12:38 #kisslinux i love that part of why glibc CAN'T be static is it breathlessly shatters nss
2021-03-02T17:12:39 #kisslinux >parse dns lists differently
2021-03-02T17:12:45 #kisslinux I had no idea that was the case
2021-03-02T17:12:49 #kisslinux yeah
2021-03-02T17:12:59 #kisslinux musl parses in parallel
2021-03-02T17:13:01 #kisslinux don't we just love how strict the POSIX specification is guise?
2021-03-02T17:13:03 #kisslinux glibc parses in serial
2021-03-02T17:13:08 #kisslinux yeah it's funny watching people who fiddle with their dns stuff come to the musl mailing list like 'wtf is this shit'
2021-03-02T17:13:15 #kisslinux so musl will usually beat glibc in dns resolve
2021-03-02T17:13:21 #kisslinux at least afaik
2021-03-02T17:13:25 #kisslinux correct me if I'm wrong
2021-03-02T17:13:30 #kisslinux I dunno
2021-03-02T17:13:39 #kisslinux iirc that's only true in... some cases?
2021-03-02T17:13:39 #kisslinux parallel as in, with pthreads?
2021-03-02T17:13:49 #kisslinux i'm not sure of the exact method it uses
2021-03-02T17:14:31 #kisslinux hmm, I'm checking it rn
2021-03-02T17:15:24 #kisslinux I really need to get around to learning C proper
2021-03-02T17:15:39 #kisslinux but it's such. a. pain. to read C source code
2021-03-02T17:15:47 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T17:15:50 #kisslinux it's just fun http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2014-November/081960.html
2021-03-02T17:15:52 #kisslinux c isn't that hard to read, once you get over the trauma of realizing that you can do ++c instead of c++
2021-03-02T17:15:53 #kisslinux oodles and caboodles
2021-03-02T17:16:12 #kisslinux it's probably just because I'm used to bourne script
2021-03-02T17:16:16 #kisslinux and c's insane operator precedence
2021-03-02T17:16:18 #kisslinux which has more in common with ALGOL than C
2021-03-02T17:16:23 #kisslinux in terms of syntax
2021-03-02T17:17:05 #kisslinux pretending to be able to read C has taken me very far
2021-03-02T17:17:12 #kisslinux like don't get me wrong
2021-03-02T17:17:15 #kisslinux I can kind of read C
2021-03-02T17:17:19 #kisslinux and maybe even understand it
2021-03-02T17:17:22 #kisslinux for the most part
2021-03-02T17:17:25 #kisslinux but it's like
2021-03-02T17:17:32 #kisslinux how the fuck does a bunch of math turn into google chrome
2021-03-02T17:17:39 #kisslinux riddle me that batman
2021-03-02T17:17:50 #kisslinux tbh I'm not familiar with libc's networking stuff, is gethostbyname the right place to look?
2021-03-02T17:18:04 #kisslinux how does a bunch of machine code turn into a GTK box on my screen
2021-03-02T17:18:07 #kisslinux midfavila: the sqrt and tan stuff is fuuun to look at
2021-03-02T17:18:31 #kisslinux like afaik there are certain "virtual" memory addresses that are actually mapped to peripherals
2021-03-02T17:18:43 #kisslinux and by writing and reading to and from those you can manipulate the registers of said peripherals
2021-03-02T17:18:49 #kisslinux e.g GPUs and stuff
2021-03-02T17:18:51 #kisslinux but like
2021-03-02T17:18:52 #kisslinux h o w
2021-03-02T17:19:15 #kisslinux the register stores a bit; bit change, light go off
2021-03-02T17:19:19 #kisslinux bit change again, light go on
2021-03-02T17:19:23 #kisslinux okay but
2021-03-02T17:19:23 #kisslinux now you got a rave
2021-03-02T17:19:26 #kisslinux . -.
2021-03-02T17:19:28 #kisslinux kernel sets interrupts so that the mem bus notifies the kernel when a program tries to write to those addresses
2021-03-02T17:19:54 #kisslinux how bit change make money disappear, midfavila ask
2021-03-02T17:20:00 #kisslinux he scream, he not know why
2021-03-02T17:20:00 #kisslinux iirc those are "fake" addresses, actually writing to them would trigger a bus error
2021-03-02T17:20:17 #kisslinux the only stuff I know about low level programming is 1970s era stuff
2021-03-02T17:20:36 #kisslinux so
2021-03-02T17:20:40 #kisslinux apparently musl does use pthread
2021-03-02T17:20:44 #kisslinux where bugs in your code were literal bugs in your code
2021-03-02T17:20:53 #kisslinux and not gcc, eh?
2021-03-02T17:21:06 #kisslinux gcc was just hands
2021-03-02T17:21:15 #kisslinux optimizations were just not causing arthritis and paper cuts
2021-03-02T17:21:18 #kisslinux the good old days
2021-03-02T17:21:42 #kisslinux back in my day we wrote our programs on paper and hand-assembled them into octal
2021-03-02T17:21:46 #kisslinux Optimizations: make your code fail even faster
2021-03-02T17:22:07 #kisslinux you kids with your IBM PC Compatibles and fancy microprocessors
2021-03-02T17:22:18 #kisslinux midfavila: octal? lucky bastard. We comrades had trinary
2021-03-02T17:22:21 #kisslinux all yer gigglebytes of wam
2021-03-02T17:22:33 #kisslinux why, my first machine had 256 bits
2021-03-02T17:22:33 #kisslinux gigglebytes of wam
2021-03-02T17:22:35 #kisslinux love that
2021-03-02T17:22:46 #kisslinux and you know what? I was happy to do my taxes with that
2021-03-02T17:24:31 #kisslinux actually there's a literal unironic boomer in my college course
2021-03-02T17:24:40 #kisslinux he used to work as a signalling engineer with the army here
2021-03-02T17:24:48 #kisslinux and one of his pieces of issued equipment was an S-100 box lmao
2021-03-02T17:26:06 #kisslinux had to look that up lol
2021-03-02T17:33:11 #kisslinux fucking powersurges
2021-03-02T17:35:06 #kisslinux testuser_[m]: this x264 bug with ksh and x264 are annoying
2021-03-02T17:35:12 #kisslinux s/are/is/
2021-03-02T17:35:13 #kisslinux testuser_[m]: this x264 bug with ksh and x264 is annoying
2021-03-02T17:35:21 #kisslinux endian failure?
2021-03-02T17:35:24 #kisslinux no
2021-03-02T17:35:28 #kisslinux a syntax error
2021-03-02T17:35:34 #kisslinux hrm
2021-03-02T17:35:41 #kisslinux there's an errant ( showing up for some reason, but there's no good reason afaict
2021-03-02T17:36:09 #kisslinux weird
2021-03-02T17:38:11 #kisslinux the best part is it's erroring at some script which just dumps stdin to an array and makes a has
2021-03-02T17:38:13 #kisslinux hash*
2021-03-02T17:38:24 #kisslinux http://ix.io/2Rr6
2021-03-02T17:38:40 #kisslinux called by this:
2021-03-02T17:38:53 #kisslinux common/oclobj.h: common/opencl/x264-cl.h $(wildcard $(SRCPATH)/common/opencl/*.cl)
2021-03-02T17:38:57 #kisslinux cat $^ | $(SRCPATH)/tools/cltostr.sh $@
2021-03-02T17:39:00 #kisslinux in the makefile
2021-03-02T17:39:57 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> lol you're still chasing that issue
2021-03-02T17:40:18 #kisslinux i mean if we're patching x264 to not use bash we might as well go all the way
2021-03-02T17:40:52 #kisslinux plus this script has the SPECIFIC /bin/sh shebang so YOU'D THINK it'd work >=| it'd be at least a patch they'd accept
2021-03-02T17:42:52 #kisslinux https://yyyyyyy.info/
2021-03-02T17:42:54 #kisslinux man this site is a trip
2021-03-02T17:43:13 #kisslinux * dilyn cringes in geocities
2021-03-02T17:43:27 #kisslinux oh my
2021-03-02T17:44:59 #kisslinux i've got to start converting all my old scripts to POSIX...
2021-03-02T17:45:32 #kisslinux bash is comfy, but now i'm using kiss more and more its a no go
2021-03-02T17:48:19 #kisslinux http://0x0.st/-Khk.png
2021-03-02T17:48:27 #kisslinux this is the kind of quality content I strive to discover every day
2021-03-02T17:50:27 #kisslinux you're on that weird part of the internet that made me buy a macbook in 2014 dog
2021-03-02T17:50:39 #kisslinux actually this is pretty normal for me
2021-03-02T17:51:00 #kisslinux the part of the internet that made you buy a macbook in 2014 was starbucks' application form
2021-03-02T17:52:17 #kisslinux hey i got that job in 2018!
2021-03-02T17:52:53 #kisslinux silence
2021-03-02T18:14:26 #kisslinux odd thing about this script testuser is one of } isn't closing the dump function
2021-03-02T18:16:31 #kisslinux when I change what sh IS the brace vim thinks is closing dump() { exists, but is the wrong one
2021-03-02T18:16:35 #kisslinux what the fsck
2021-03-02T18:16:58 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> lol
2021-03-02T18:17:08 #kisslinux but i thought vim was supposed to be super based and unixpilled
2021-03-02T18:17:33 #kisslinux but shellcheck says it's all fine so who knows
2021-03-02T18:21:32 #kisslinux I don't want to file a bug report for a project that uses vcs but doesn't even do tags or releases smh
2021-03-02T18:21:53 #kisslinux x264 building is a mess in general
2021-03-02T18:21:57 #kisslinux it never works out for me
2021-03-02T18:22:09 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T18:22:27 #kisslinux well okay like
2021-03-02T18:22:32 #kisslinux there's always something it complains about
2021-03-02T18:22:36 #kisslinux and it's stupid
2021-03-02T18:25:37 #kisslinux I really just want it to not exist xD
2021-03-02T18:26:25 #kisslinux that would be ideal
2021-03-02T18:29:25 #kisslinux hello everyone
2021-03-02T18:29:42 #kisslinux howdy
2021-03-02T18:30:08 #kisslinux Yo
2021-03-02T18:32:26 #kisslinux heya nxghtmvrx
2021-03-02T18:37:54 #kisslinux hello hello
2021-03-02T18:38:19 #kisslinux man, I need like
2021-03-02T18:38:21 #kisslinux a harness
2021-03-02T18:38:29 #kisslinux to prevent myself from leaning sideways in my chair out of habit
2021-03-02T18:38:32 #kisslinux or something
2021-03-02T18:38:51 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> get one of those exercise balls
2021-03-02T18:38:58 #kisslinux ew gross
2021-03-02T18:38:59 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> lean sideways -> fall on butt
2021-03-02T18:39:17 #kisslinux i'm not giving up my comfy 1960s armchair
2021-03-02T18:42:43 #kisslinux https://github.com/froggey/Mezzano
2021-03-02T18:42:57 #kisslinux friendship ended with linux, mezzano best friend now
2021-03-02T18:46:39 #kisslinux I have a question to those of you more experienced in compiling kernel. My tty resolution is always low like 800x600 and i couldn't change it by manually setting framebuffer rows/cols or adding right drivers for both framebuffer gpu and graphics/gpu. After I added graphics gpu driver and recompiled kernel it froze on boot(I guess at graphics
2021-03-02T18:46:39 #kisslinux initiation). I am sure that this is right driver that I was using on other distros fine and my EDID is not broken because it works fine on void-musl. Any suggestions?
2021-03-02T18:46:52 #kisslinux check firmware
2021-03-02T18:47:16 #kisslinux if you have a driver loaded but it can't load the firmware blobs then it'll "freeze"
2021-03-02T18:47:26 #kisslinux but you should still have network and keyboard access to the machine
2021-03-02T18:47:46 #kisslinux so just log in like usual, output dmesg to a file, boot into a live distro, and grep the dmesg log for "firmware"
2021-03-02T18:52:51 #kisslinux thanks, I'll try
2021-03-02T18:54:12 #kisslinux yeah I'd almost certainly place the blame on something firmware related with your gpu
2021-03-02T18:54:40 #kisslinux normally I just compile the firmware straight into the kernel along with all my drivers
2021-03-02T18:54:42 #kisslinux if you haven't, give this a gloss https://k1ss.net/wiki/kernel/firmware
2021-03-02T18:54:50 #kisslinux iirc it depends on the card
2021-03-02T18:55:03 #kisslinux some play nice, others don't
2021-03-02T18:55:04 #kisslinux idk
2021-03-02T18:55:12 #kisslinux as long as it's not a novideo card...
2021-03-02T18:57:33 #kisslinux 1) use nouveau
2021-03-02T18:57:35 #kisslinux 2) kill self
2021-03-02T18:57:38 #kisslinux ez
2021-03-02T18:57:41 #kisslinux is kiss-community going to maintain dylanaraps' other projects like his window manager?
2021-03-02T18:57:43 #kisslinux just kys tbh
2021-03-02T18:57:53 #kisslinux and i don't know about that
2021-03-02T18:58:03 #kisslinux afaik KISS is just focused on KISS
2021-03-02T18:58:22 #kisslinux ultimately it comes down to mister big shot himself
2021-03-02T18:59:39 #kisslinux anyway brb
2021-03-02T19:04:36 #kisslinux vulpine: That would be difficult. While dylan has made his vision and roadmap for kiss clear on his blog/website, that's mostly not the case for his other projects.
2021-03-02T19:04:54 #kisslinux And yes, KISS is just focused on KISS.
2021-03-02T19:05:52 #kisslinux I am neither clever enough, proficient with X, nor interested in maintaining sowm :v
2021-03-02T19:06:11 #kisslinux while keeping things like eiwd up to date would be wonderful, I'm also not that good
2021-03-02T19:06:16 #kisslinux maybe one day, but that's not on my docket
2021-03-02T19:07:35 #kisslinux I wonder about his other project, such as the pure-*-bible and *fetch.
2021-03-02T19:07:49 #kisslinux konimex: Just curious, are you maintaining neofetch rn?
2021-03-02T19:10:10 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i think he had SOWM pretty much where he wanted it. He had mentioned wanting to rewrite it using XCB ("SOWM2": https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/hzxe3i/sowm_oo/fzlrrb2/) but I don't think he ever got SOWM2 to a point where he released it?
2021-03-02T19:10:29 #kisslinux No, it's still a PR
2021-03-02T19:10:50 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> anyways, I took that SOWM2 effort to be implying he was done with SOWM
2021-03-02T19:11:16 #kisslinux afaik sowm2 could launch and draw windows but that was basically it? it was a goal I would've liked to see tho
2021-03-02T19:11:25 #kisslinux I hate *fetch scripts :S
2021-03-02T19:11:44 #kisslinux konimex have fun with all the 'add xyz os pl0x'
2021-03-02T19:13:24 #kisslinux Ah, the "Add ponyos" issue
2021-03-02T19:16:26 #kisslinux ponyo was a good movie
2021-03-02T19:16:40 #kisslinux anyway have you guys ever had issues with your timezone?
2021-03-02T19:16:58 #kisslinux mine is set to the correct TZ and tzdata is installed properly, but it's showing up five hours slow on my machine
2021-03-02T19:17:11 #kisslinux same setup works fine on my laptop, mind
2021-03-02T19:17:21 #kisslinux and RTC is set properly in the BIOS
2021-03-02T19:17:25 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i haven't, no. well, other than it choosing US/New_York even when EST is available
2021-03-02T19:18:27 #kisslinux computer y u do this
2021-03-02T19:18:34 #kisslinux please just do the needful
2021-03-02T19:18:35 #kisslinux >:V
2021-03-02T19:18:56 #kisslinux speaking of computers not doing things that they should be
2021-03-02T19:19:15 #kisslinux have you guys ever run into a problem on glibc machines with a missing /usr/include/bits/posix.h?
2021-03-02T19:19:30 #kisslinux my musl laptop has it and it's provided by the eponymous lib so...
2021-03-02T19:20:32 #kisslinux as a failsafe for timezone stuff you could always just export TZ=EST or w/e
2021-03-02T19:20:37 #kisslinux it's not recommended but... :v
2021-03-02T19:20:45 #kisslinux well I kinda need it to be accurate lmao
2021-03-02T19:20:51 #kisslinux my computer is my primary timekeeping device
2021-03-02T19:21:01 #kisslinux and being five hours late isn't my idea of ideal
2021-03-02T19:21:17 #kisslinux yeah EST is even worse
2021-03-02T19:21:20 #kisslinux six hours late
2021-03-02T19:23:37 #kisslinux you could manually set the date
2021-03-02T19:23:50 #kisslinux that... eh
2021-03-02T19:23:55 #kisslinux these are all bad suggestions lmfao
2021-03-02T19:24:00 #kisslinux it'd be another line in my xsession file
2021-03-02T19:24:24 #kisslinux and as we all know
2021-03-02T19:24:26 #kisslinux bytes are bloat
2021-03-02T19:24:28 #kisslinux not to mention my shrc
2021-03-02T19:24:29 #kisslinux and yes
2021-03-02T19:24:34 #kisslinux when they're redundant >:V
2021-03-02T19:24:42 #kisslinux i wouldn't expect a KDE user to understand
2021-03-02T19:25:04 #kisslinux bruh kde will take it on itself to set my time
2021-03-02T19:25:06 #kisslinux hate that shit
2021-03-02T19:25:15 #kisslinux just use xclock
2021-03-02T19:25:16 #kisslinux come home
2021-03-02T19:25:24 #kisslinux reject modernity, embrace tradition
2021-03-02T19:25:25 #kisslinux etc
2021-03-02T19:25:34 #kisslinux tradition?
2021-03-02T19:25:43 #kisslinux wayland is almost old enough to drive a car dog
2021-03-02T19:25:54 #kisslinux xorg is old enough to be your dad
2021-03-02T19:25:58 #kisslinux probably
2021-03-02T19:26:27 #kisslinux pretty soon it'll be downright octogenarian
2021-03-02T19:26:46 #kisslinux whoa hey you're using words that aren't in my /etc/dictionary
2021-03-02T19:26:49 #kisslinux gotta dumb it down man
2021-03-02T19:27:01 #kisslinux reject modernity for me is framebuffer only mode, not these x/wayland things
2021-03-02T19:27:08 #kisslinux >graphics
2021-03-02T19:27:27 #kisslinux just use a typewriter as the patriarchs intended
2021-03-02T19:27:42 #kisslinux ...actually that would be pretty aesthetic
2021-03-02T19:27:56 #kisslinux maybe I should build a teletypewriter
2021-03-02T19:28:26 #kisslinux no
2021-03-02T19:28:32 #kisslinux Yes
2021-03-02T19:28:33 #kisslinux Just use paper and pen then. No need to maintain typewriter
2021-03-02T19:28:44 #kisslinux what does $(date) report your type as? are you using anything like ntpd that would fuck with it?
2021-03-02T19:28:54 #kisslinux >thinking I would use a daemon to set time
2021-03-02T19:29:06 #kisslinux * dilyn shrugs
2021-03-02T19:29:08 #kisslinux it's just an env var in my /etc/profile.d
2021-03-02T19:29:15 #kisslinux are you gasp le dual booting
2021-03-02T19:29:16 #kisslinux which is sourced by /etc/profile
2021-03-02T19:29:20 #kisslinux ew no
2021-03-02T19:29:23 #kisslinux i'm a purist
2021-03-02T19:29:25 #kisslinux gtfo
2021-03-02T19:29:47 #kisslinux also why would you use a subshell to run date
2021-03-02T19:29:59 #kisslinux pretty sure those inherit env vars from the main shell
2021-03-02T19:30:15 #kisslinux either way it prints the same as my xclock
2021-03-02T19:30:20 #kisslinux a little rude of chromium to do that but ok
2021-03-02T19:30:32 #kisslinux holy fuck there's 27 dylins now
2021-03-02T19:30:45 #kisslinux I just meant to run date smh don't be absurd
2021-03-02T19:30:48 #kisslinux that's what happens when you use a browser client lol
2021-03-02T19:30:55 #kisslinux #fax
2021-03-02T19:31:04 #kisslinux >don't be absurd
2021-03-02T19:31:04 #kisslinux don't use subshell syntax >:V
2021-03-02T19:31:04 #kisslinux also what happens when you use shared libs and update nss
2021-03-02T19:31:10 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> vulpine: fwiw, xwm is very similar to sowm but written using the XCB protocol. i decided to write my own since there hadn’t been any updates to sowm2 for a while.
2021-03-02T19:31:19 #kisslinux uhhh
2021-03-02T19:31:24 #kisslinux you'd be surprised how many people can't parse a line and determine what part is code to be ran and what part isn't...
2021-03-02T19:31:26 #kisslinux i don't even think I have anything that uses nss
2021-03-02T19:31:51 #kisslinux yeah I don't
2021-03-02T19:31:55 #kisslinux just chromium :v but they have been 'wanting to transition away from it' since at least 2017, so maybe in fifteen years
2021-03-02T19:32:06 #kisslinux use pale moon nerd
2021-03-02T19:32:24 #kisslinux I meant what does date print lad i don't care about consistency I want to know what you expect versus what you get :v
2021-03-02T19:32:41 #kisslinux well I expect it to tell me it's half past three
2021-03-02T19:32:48 #kisslinux instead it's telling me that it's quarter to nine
2021-03-02T19:32:53 #kisslinux the whole line you fool
2021-03-02T19:32:54 #kisslinux PM and AM respectively
2021-03-02T19:32:59 #kisslinux * midfavila eyerolls
2021-03-02T19:33:04 #kisslinux Tue Mar 2 08:47:54 AST 2021
2021-03-02T19:33:07 #kisslinux well i don't know where you live!
2021-03-02T19:33:09 #kisslinux there you go professor
2021-03-02T19:33:27 #kisslinux there there, children
2021-03-02T19:33:30 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T19:33:48 #kisslinux can recursion solve this problem? :thinking:
2021-03-02T19:34:00 #kisslinux we have to go deeper
2021-03-02T19:34:09 #kisslinux why use profile.d and not /etc/timezone /etc/localtime?
2021-03-02T19:34:25 #kisslinux because I just don't do that
2021-03-02T19:34:29 #kisslinux no reason for me to
2021-03-02T19:34:34 #kisslinux i mean
2021-03-02T19:34:38 #kisslinux your time would be accurate
2021-03-02T19:34:46 #kisslinux this same setup works on my laptop
2021-03-02T19:34:57 #kisslinux so I don't know why it wouldn't work here
2021-03-02T19:37:34 #kisslinux so just for shits and giggles
2021-03-02T19:37:40 #kisslinux did a fresh install of tzdata
2021-03-02T19:37:53 #kisslinux linked my timezone to /etc/timezone
2021-03-02T19:38:07 #kisslinux logged out, logged in, made sure /etc/localtime was set properly, all that
2021-03-02T19:38:11 #kisslinux still the same problem
2021-03-02T19:38:11 #kisslinux hrm
2021-03-02T19:38:56 #kisslinux did it ever work?
2021-03-02T19:39:01 #kisslinux yes
2021-03-02T19:39:06 #kisslinux and it currently works on my laptop
2021-03-02T19:39:18 #kisslinux so I'm not sure what's up with this system
2021-03-02T19:39:20 #kisslinux whatdid you change when it stopped working!
2021-03-02T19:39:28 #kisslinux literally nothing
2021-03-02T19:39:28 #kisslinux mess about with rtc in the kernel?
2021-03-02T19:39:29 #kisslinux i rebooted
2021-03-02T19:39:32 #kisslinux delete your cmos?
2021-03-02T19:39:34 #kisslinux eat a sock?
2021-03-02T19:39:34 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> ehm i recall something that timezone package changed format recently
2021-03-02T19:39:44 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> an older version might work
2021-03-02T19:39:56 #kisslinux like it was working last night, I had to reboot this morning, and then it started displaying the wrong time
2021-03-02T19:39:59 #kisslinux https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2020/12/25/2020-time-zone-database-tzdata-changes/
2021-03-02T19:40:18 #kisslinux ?
2021-03-02T19:40:22 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> yeah
2021-03-02T19:40:25 #kisslinux yeah if that's it it wouldn't be the problem
2021-03-02T19:40:29 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i use tzcode/data from 2018
2021-03-02T19:40:34 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> that works well enuff
2021-03-02T19:41:39 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> or did some SJW's demand recently that timezone needs to be changed to accomodate for some minority demands
2021-03-02T19:41:40 #kisslinux well I guess I can just do some arithmetic in my tz file to adjust the date...
2021-03-02T19:41:42 #kisslinux but not ideal
2021-03-02T19:41:52 #kisslinux and i mean considering it's red hat I wouldn't be surprised
2021-03-02T19:42:25 #kisslinux oh wait a sec
2021-03-02T19:42:34 #kisslinux according to date's manpage UTC time is set differently than normal time
2021-03-02T19:42:43 #kisslinux so if the UTC is set differently than local that would explain the oddity
2021-03-02T19:43:08 #kisslinux you're lucky this time, poettering
2021-03-02T19:43:12 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> any opsec-aware hacker uses UTC everywhere anyway
2021-03-02T19:43:20 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> so his local TZ doesnt leak
2021-03-02T19:43:31 #kisslinux oh no you have my timezone
2021-03-02T19:43:43 #kisslinux good luck finding me in the second largest country on the planet
2021-03-02T19:43:54 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> too late for midfavila, now we know he lives somewhere in Greenlnand
2021-03-02T19:44:01 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> that would be china, or brasil ?
2021-03-02T19:44:07 #kisslinux * midfavila cackles
2021-03-02T19:44:15 #kisslinux gotim
2021-03-02T19:44:17 #kisslinux fear my power
2021-03-02T19:44:20 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> goyim
2021-03-02T19:44:29 #kisslinux for my timezone data is FUCKED, even when it's correct
2021-03-02T19:44:40 #kisslinux i've never once had somebody correctly guess my location based on my tzdata
2021-03-02T19:44:50 #kisslinux do people play this game?
2021-03-02T19:44:58 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> browsers do
2021-03-02T19:45:03 #kisslinux ^
2021-03-02T19:45:04 #kisslinux f
2021-03-02T19:45:09 #kisslinux muh ess ess ell
2021-03-02T19:45:21 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> they can extract your local tz, effectively allowing them to figure out your location even when you use a proxy
2021-03-02T19:45:42 #kisslinux again my area's tz is super weird
2021-03-02T19:45:56 #kisslinux so you'd need more than just time and date to figure it out
2021-03-02T19:46:16 #kisslinux i call it "security through what the fuck am I looking at"
2021-03-02T19:47:13 #kisslinux do you live in that part of arizona that doesn't have dst
2021-03-02T19:47:27 #kisslinux yes I do
2021-03-02T19:47:29 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> security through obscurity is under-rated
2021-03-02T19:47:29 #kisslinux i'm an american
2021-03-02T19:47:37 #kisslinux oh this isn't obscurity
2021-03-02T19:47:49 #kisslinux this is literally just
2021-03-02T19:47:49 #kisslinux pure what-the-fuck-ism
2021-03-02T19:48:47 #kisslinux i legitimately doubt even most intermediate linux users would be able to work with my setup
2021-03-02T19:48:59 #kisslinux whether that's good or bad or both or neither I leave up to you
2021-03-02T19:49:42 #kisslinux 2 leet 2 furious
2021-03-02T19:49:57 #kisslinux blech, not even
2021-03-02T19:50:09 #kisslinux i've dealt with "le ebic 1337 hackermen" before
2021-03-02T19:50:21 #kisslinux not even like kali script kiddies, actually competent people
2021-03-02T19:50:30 #kisslinux but my god their egos were so massive it wasn't even funny
2021-03-02T19:50:37 #kisslinux like congrats you have a specialized skill.
2021-03-02T19:50:39 #kisslinux shut the fuck up
2021-03-02T19:50:45 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> and i doubt even the nsa could hack my browser even if its full of vulns. my distro has 10 different gcc versions, 10 versions of libtiff, etc etc effectively they have no clue what my binary pointer addrs are
2021-03-02T19:51:03 #kisslinux see that's what I mean
2021-03-02T19:51:07 #kisslinux the source is available
2021-03-02T19:51:14 #kisslinux it might even be vulnerable and have exploits
2021-03-02T19:51:36 #kisslinux but through pure "random chance" introduced by the decisions of the end user, your ability to attack effectively drops dramatically
2021-03-02T19:52:00 #kisslinux (random chance isn't really "random" here, but functionally the user's choices serve as a "salt"? I dunno the right terms here)
2021-03-02T19:53:21 #kisslinux but yeah minimalism combined with proper software review and rigorous administration policy is the way to go I think
2021-03-02T19:53:53 #kisslinux because one thing I've seen a lot of security "experts" say is that "oh well open source projects are no more secure" and they act like that's a gotcha
2021-03-02T19:54:02 #kisslinux like no fucking shit a license doesn't make anything more secure
2021-03-02T19:54:25 #kisslinux but if you're using software for a critical application that's so large and complex you aren't capable of auditing it... maybe that's a good indicator you shouldn't use it
2021-03-02T19:54:36 #kisslinux idk what the fuck do I know I'm just an opinionated teenager
2021-03-02T19:54:44 #kisslinux on that note I have to go get ready to grab some groceries
2021-03-02T19:54:50 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://ranum.com/security/computer_security/papers/a1-firewall/index.html
2021-03-02T19:55:01 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> get one of these firewalls and you're good to go
2021-03-02T20:15:40 #kisslinux man y'all would flip if you knew i worked for the NSA huh
2021-03-02T20:16:50 #kisslinux you... you do?
2021-03-02T20:17:57 #kisslinux I couldn't tell you if I did :v
2021-03-02T20:18:37 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i'd be more upset if you worked for red hat tbh
2021-03-02T20:19:02 #kisslinux lmfao
2021-03-02T20:19:33 #kisslinux or hold nose microshuft
2021-03-02T20:22:11 #kisslinux I imagine if I worked for either I wouldn't be allowed to contribute to this project
2021-03-02T20:22:24 #kisslinux Or at least not in a way that I would be okay with
2021-03-02T20:22:27 #kisslinux but that PaY
2021-03-02T20:22:29 #kisslinux and the PENSION
2021-03-02T20:22:32 #kisslinux mmmmmfff
2021-03-02T20:22:55 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> nah, they'd just make you push systemd and flatpaks/snaps on us every day
2021-03-02T20:24:39 #kisslinux lol
2021-03-02T20:24:53 #kisslinux 'yes but have you tried wsl2 it's better than linux'
2021-03-02T20:25:13 #kisslinux They'd make you show off your hardened fork of the kernel
2021-03-02T20:25:25 #kisslinux for, you know, security conscious folks
2021-03-02T23:25:53 #kisslinux i have returned from my grocery shopping
2021-03-02T23:25:56 #kisslinux and i have acquired
2021-03-02T23:26:01 #kisslinux b i g k n i f e
2021-03-02T23:26:10 #kisslinux otherwise known as a 1917 remington bayonet
2021-03-02T23:40:46 #kisslinux what grocer sells bayonets?
2021-03-02T23:41:02 #kisslinux sadly none in my area
2021-03-02T23:41:13 #kisslinux but I stop by pawn and thrift stores when I go out
2021-03-02T23:41:23 #kisslinux and happened to find the bayonet while I was looking around
2021-03-02T23:42:12 #kisslinux sounds likea good use of your neetbux
2021-03-02T23:42:36 #kisslinux hey, never know when we're gonna have a mad max scenario
2021-03-02T23:43:22 #kisslinux alternatively it looks really cool hanging on my wall
2021-03-02T23:44:23 #kisslinux pawn shops in my area only seem to have old electronics, lawnmowers, and jewelry
2021-03-02T23:45:07 #kisslinux mine are mostly old vidya, clothes, and tools
2021-03-02T23:45:20 #kisslinux but now and again you find some really cool stuff
2021-03-02T23:45:33 #kisslinux like a century-old bayonet in almost perfect condition
2021-03-02T23:49:50 #kisslinux did canada participate in wwi? maybe that is why it is in perfect condition
2021-03-02T23:50:14 #kisslinux yeah we participated in WWI
2021-03-02T23:50:22 #kisslinux like, a fuck ton
2021-03-02T23:50:37 #kisslinux it was one of the moments that made canada really stand out as its own nation
2021-03-02T23:50:48 #kisslinux at the time we were still relatively young as a country
2021-03-02T23:56:54 #kisslinux https://0x0.st/-PsK.jpg
2021-03-02T23:57:04 #kisslinux pretty neat canadian wwi propaganda poster
2021-03-02T23:57:49 #kisslinux kiedtl: no, I no longer maintain neofetch
2021-03-02T23:58:06 #kisslinux wartime posters are cool
2021-03-02T23:58:21 #kisslinux my local community center has a few of them available for viewing
2021-03-02T23:58:29 #kisslinux one of them talks about contributing to local "victory gardens"
2021-03-02T23:59:00 #kisslinux what kind of maintaining does neofetch even need?
2021-03-02T23:59:15 #kisslinux https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/INF3-96_Food_Production_Dig_for_Victory_Artist_Peter_Fraser.jpg
2021-03-02T23:59:18 #kisslinux new ascii art i suppose
2021-03-02T23:59:19 #kisslinux there's one of these available
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