2020-09-23T00:34:59 #kisslinux finally, pgo looks like it's sorta gonna maybe hopefully work

2020-09-23T00:35:12 #kisslinux apparently export MOZ_PGO=1 wasn't all and my previous attempt just did lto

2020-09-23T00:35:35 #kisslinux also switched over to clang for cross-language (rust) optimizations

2020-09-23T00:36:15 #kisslinux but i had to go back to mach instead of just configure+make so this is probably going to be a separate package and not a regular patch

2020-09-23T00:52:02 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> did you actually benchmark pgo vs lto vs normal build

2020-09-23T00:57:12 #kisslinux Why benchmark it when you can feel the performance

2020-09-23T00:57:16 #kisslinux 🔥🔥🔥

2020-09-23T00:58:46 #kisslinux why benchmark it when you don't really care about performance but instead just want to do it because you can

2020-09-23T00:58:48 #kisslinux :p

2020-09-23T00:59:47 #kisslinux iirc mozilla themselves measured 1.2 - 1.4x performance improvements on some benchmarks

2020-09-23T01:00:31 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> ofc, but since you invested a major effort into this wouldn't it be great to get and share some measurements

2020-09-23T01:01:19 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> imo if they really got 1.4x speedups they should look into what areas got the boost and improve that code

2020-09-23T01:01:35 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> since it's apparently where it's important

2020-09-23T01:01:57 #kisslinux just checked the specific page i got the numbers from and it's 8 years old

2020-09-23T01:01:58 #kisslinux so yeah

2020-09-23T02:29:16 #kisslinux https://ebc.li/6ndw

2020-09-23T02:29:18 #kisslinux aaaaaaaaah

2020-09-23T02:29:57 #kisslinux "Firefox exited with code -11 during profile initialization" WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

2020-09-23T02:33:52 #kisslinux 'no settings file exists, new profile?'

2020-09-23T02:33:55 #kisslinux This seems obvious, firefox

2020-09-23T02:34:25 #kisslinux that's just a warning iirc

2020-09-23T02:38:13 #kisslinux i give up.

2020-09-23T02:38:16 #kisslinux rest of y'all have fun: https://git.ebc.li/kiss/optim/src/branch/firefox-proper-pgo/repo/firefox

2020-09-23T02:38:35 #kisslinux i'll probably clean up the clang+lto changes and push them, and pgo will stay for anothey day

2020-09-23T03:13:54 #kisslinux lshw

2020-09-23T03:13:56 #kisslinux whoops

2020-09-23T03:14:11 #kisslinux wrong window

2020-09-23T04:04:44 #kisslinux Just realized I've been building rust with... -j1

2020-09-23T04:04:49 #kisslinux Smh

2020-09-23T04:05:02 #kisslinux No wonder it's so painful

2020-09-23T05:32:18 #kisslinux Can anyone confirm that Firefox 81.0 built fine?

2020-09-23T05:36:19 #kisslinux with gtk2 patch or without?

2020-09-23T05:36:29 #kisslinux With

2020-09-23T05:36:54 #kisslinux Works fine here, just wanted to confirm with others

2020-09-23T05:37:01 #kisslinux (Under X11 and Wayland)

2020-09-23T05:37:05 #kisslinux I'll compile it later

2020-09-23T05:45:30 #kisslinux I wonder if we can remedy this: ERROR: Could not find clang to generate run bindings for C/C++. Please install the necessary packages, run mach bootstrap, or use --with-clang-path to give the location of clang.

2020-09-23T05:45:46 #kisslinux Clang is required to build Firefox even when everything is set to GCC...

2020-09-23T05:46:12 #kisslinux So it forces users to have both compilers installed (unless pure clang system)

2020-09-23T05:46:22 #kisslinux (or unless it also forces gcc somewhere...)

2020-09-23T05:47:07 #kisslinux From: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/build/moz.configure/bindgen.configure#203

2020-09-23T05:52:50 #kisslinux Doesn't look to be possible

2020-09-23T05:54:19 #kisslinux Firefox uses https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-bindgen which depends on libclang/clang

2020-09-23T06:48:40 #kisslinux kiss-outdated is very spotty for me sometimes it shows certain packages othertimes it doesn't

2020-09-23T06:49:59 #kisslinux Oh yeah dilynm I will fix seatd quickly

2020-09-23T06:59:14 #kisslinux Opened up a pr dilynm

2020-09-23T08:04:21 #kisslinux dylanaraps do you know why sometimes kiss ou doesn't show all the packages sometimes?

2020-09-23T08:05:18 #kisslinux muevoid: kiss-outdated lists all packages in your KISS_PATH

2020-09-23T08:06:11 #kisslinux How it works is more or less a hack

2020-09-23T08:06:11 #kisslinux Yes but for example socat is currently outdated in my repo, however it only shows up sometimes when running kiss-outdated othertimes it doesn't show up. Appearingly random

2020-09-23T08:06:24 #kisslinux I'll try removing the async stuff

2020-09-23T08:07:20 #kisslinux kk

2020-09-23T08:07:29 #kisslinux I'll rewrite the whole thing

2020-09-23T08:07:34 #kisslinux Give me 15 minutes or so

2020-09-23T08:08:28 #kisslinux Kk now worries, thank you for doing so.

2020-09-23T08:44:35 #kisslinux muevoid: https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/cd6c95419db670a9988f9d1017a497a4da598210

2020-09-23T08:44:39 #kisslinux Let me know how this goes

2020-09-23T08:44:53 #kisslinux Will print error messages which should tell us why it's failing

2020-09-23T08:44:59 #kisslinux Will then be able to look deeper into the problem

2020-09-23T08:45:27 #kisslinux Just pop this in your $PATH somewhere https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/blob/cd6c95419db670a9988f9d1017a497a4da598210/contrib/kiss-outdated

2020-09-23T08:45:39 #kisslinux Usage is now: kiss outdated /path/to/repo

2020-09-23T08:47:01 #kisslinux Ah, there's a bug.

2020-09-23T08:47:04 #kisslinux Hang on.

2020-09-23T08:51:23 #kisslinux Pushed more fixes.

2020-09-23T08:57:42 #kisslinux Ok thank you a lot!

2020-09-23T08:57:49 #kisslinux Testing it now

2020-09-23T08:58:23 #kisslinux Just pushed another commit

2020-09-23T08:58:44 #kisslinux https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/blob/master/contrib/kiss-outdated

2020-09-23T08:58:58 #kisslinux What it is doing should be clearer now too

2020-09-23T08:59:13 #kisslinux I'll add some comments too

2020-09-23T08:59:23 #kisslinux Thay That is much better Thank you!

2020-09-23T09:03:01 #kisslinux I need to add a few more things

2020-09-23T09:03:16 #kisslinux But it should be better than it was

2020-09-23T09:04:58 #kisslinux It is much better! Thank you so much for your work

2020-09-23T09:05:06 #kisslinux No problem

2020-09-23T09:05:36 #kisslinux I just need to lowercase every package name (as repology does) and fixup a few known package naming issues (gtk+3 -> gtk).

2020-09-23T09:05:55 #kisslinux Kk

2020-09-23T09:35:11 #kisslinux https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/blob/master/contrib/kiss-outdated

2020-09-23T09:35:35 #kisslinux muevoid: Should be good now. Will push more fixes to (known) naming conflicts later today.

2020-09-23T09:36:03 #kisslinux Let me know if the code is unclear anywhere too

2020-09-23T10:04:55 #kisslinux hola

2020-09-23T10:05:18 #kisslinux someone know what the hell means the name on i915 inside linux-firmware?

2020-09-23T10:06:51 #kisslinux i'm trying to understand these names, i think skl_* are skylake, bxt_* broxton and kbl_* kaby lake

2020-09-23T10:07:03 #kisslinux but the others i have no idea

2020-09-23T10:11:17 #kisslinux You should lookup which firmware is needed for your hardware

2020-09-23T10:11:24 #kisslinux I think you're doing this backwards

2020-09-23T10:11:47 #kisslinux Intel's website should have a page about it

2020-09-23T10:12:03 #kisslinux Maybe exists in a README-esque file in linux-firmware?

2020-09-23T10:17:59 #kisslinux No README explaining it inside linux-firmware, and inside intel website i'm trying also to find that info

2020-09-23T10:18:47 #kisslinux i'm trying to find wich of them are for ivy bridge

2020-09-23T10:19:29 #kisslinux but i have no luck

2020-09-23T10:19:51 #kisslinux maybe there is no one

2020-09-23T10:20:06 #kisslinux Try use the iGPU model name

2020-09-23T10:25:00 #kisslinux most Intel iGPU should be i915, iirc

2020-09-23T10:26:42 #kisslinux ah, the firmware

2020-09-23T11:02:11 #kisslinux muevoid: Finished https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/blob/master/contrib/kiss-outdated

2020-09-23T11:12:00 #kisslinux Nice! I'm checking it out now. Thanks again!

2020-09-23T11:14:24 #kisslinux You can now also do: kiss ou /var/db/kiss/installed/

2020-09-23T11:14:35 #kisslinux To check your installed list of packages against repology.org

2020-09-23T11:25:55 #kisslinux Also 2>/dev/null to show only outdated packages (and no other messages)

2020-09-23T11:49:33 #kisslinux eudaldgr: iirc the i915bfirmwares are for post-haswell CPUs so there isn't one for ivy bridge

2020-09-23T12:41:10 #kisslinux @dilynm: thanks

2020-09-23T16:58:28 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> Anyone ever try getting Avahi working? I seem to need it for printing

2020-09-23T18:44:32 #kisslinux I just messed around with elfutils a bit, trying to make the codebase less fucked by removing nested functions, and holy fuck there are a pretty significant amount of nested functions

2020-09-23T18:45:15 #kisslinux I've come to the conclusion that the elfutils developers hate humanity, and the elfutils source is an expression of their hatred

2020-09-23T18:52:51 #kisslinux dylanaraps: for checking if KISS_ROOT ends with /, instead of just stripping 3 of them and hoping that's enough, can't you use that thing from pure-sh-bible (or bash I forget) for stripping trailing whitespace, but use it for / instead?

2020-09-23T18:53:25 #kisslinux ${KISS_ROOT%${KISS_ROOT##*[!/]}}

2020-09-23T18:54:58 #kisslinux E5ten: Yes

2020-09-23T18:55:00 #kisslinux Good idea

2020-09-23T18:55:49 #kisslinux dylanaraps: I have successfully build latest 'firefox' with X

2020-09-23T18:56:38 #kisslinux Thanks

2020-09-23T19:09:02 #kisslinux E5ten: dropping nested functions in elfutils seems like a never-ending battle

2020-09-23T19:09:21 #kisslinux Somebody must've finished the work for at least libelf tho because clang can build it

2020-09-23T19:09:36 #kisslinux I gave up for now, I replaced all the ones in the libs with macros, but there are so many in the commands that I just can't keep going at least for now

2020-09-23T19:12:41 #kisslinux Are they even actually useful?

2020-09-23T19:12:56 #kisslinux Like, it seems like the authors would just rather not be writing C if they want to use them

2020-09-23T19:13:39 #kisslinux they're there because they use variables that are local to the function but don't take them as params

2020-09-23T19:13:51 #kisslinux so if they weren't nested you'd have to make all those variables global

2020-09-23T19:14:56 #kisslinux I turned the nested functions into macros, and for the ones that had return types (weren't void) I made a variable within the function, set it to the macro's "return", and broke from the do while loop, and then whenever the nested function's return value was used, I replaced that with a standalone call to the macro, and checking the variable it sets

2020-09-23T19:15:04 #kisslinux it's disgusting, but not as disgusting as using fucking nested functions

2020-09-23T19:17:19 #kisslinux Lmao

2020-09-23T19:17:41 #kisslinux I bet it doesn't look pretty enough for upstream to take it

2020-09-23T19:18:42 #kisslinux it's not even worth trying because there are so many others that would need dealing with, also their codebase is fucked and has both tabs and spaces so I wouldn't even know how to indent all my shit correctly, where they use spaces it's 2-space indentation so I just made all the code I changed into that

2020-09-23T19:19:20 #kisslinux In at least one place they have 2 nested functions in the same function with the same name

2020-09-23T19:20:00 #kisslinux They're just both nested under switches so they don't conflict, but for the macro version I had to #undef it after the uses of the first one

2020-09-23T19:22:35 #kisslinux This sounds like cancer

2020-09-23T19:23:10 #kisslinux Would it just be easier to extend elftoolchain xD

2020-09-23T19:23:20 #kisslinux And elftoolchain upstream is really slow :(

2020-09-23T19:24:30 #kisslinux Well to be fair the only issue I know of with elftoolchain (for libelf in the kernel I mean) is that one thing I made a patch for, although I'm not 100% sure the patch is correct (seems to be though)

2020-09-23T19:25:01 #kisslinux Yeah

2020-09-23T19:25:05 #kisslinux I do wish that bug I made would get a response though... I sent a ping like yesterday of the day before

2020-09-23T19:25:11 #kisslinux I saw

2020-09-23T19:25:13 #kisslinux :P

2020-09-23T19:25:13 #kisslinux Or*

2020-09-23T19:25:48 #kisslinux Are there any other elf libraries other than the old libelf?

2020-09-23T19:26:26 #kisslinux Not that I know of

2020-09-23T19:26:54 #kisslinux But is elftoolchain with one patch really a problem?

2020-09-23T19:29:00 #kisslinux It was for me (:

2020-09-23T19:29:05 #kisslinux Not really. I just hope the problem doesn't grow over time

2020-09-23T19:29:26 #kisslinux It's likely the kernel will support whatever elfutils does

2020-09-23T19:29:35 #kisslinux If they happen to upstream some patches then get data will be problematic for elftoolchain

2020-09-23T19:29:59 #kisslinux E5ten: i reviewed your patch and it looks good to me. i just made a small additional change to remove the check for lid == NULL in the subsequent if statement (since it is impossible)

2020-09-23T19:32:44 #kisslinux The kernel seems to already depend on elfutils for some stuff https://github.com/torvalds/linux/search?p=2&q=elfutils

2020-09-23T19:36:54 #kisslinux mcf: thanks, did you send your updated one to their list or add it to the bug?

2020-09-23T19:37:55 #kisslinux i did not (it's just what i'm using locally)

2020-09-23T19:38:02 #kisslinux Ah I see

2020-09-23T19:38:21 #kisslinux dylanaraps: almost all of that is in tools/perf, which doesn't matter

2020-09-23T19:38:58 #kisslinux The rest are either comments, or mention of elfutils in regard to finding a libelf cuz that's the main implementation

2020-09-23T19:40:42 #kisslinux mcf: maybe you could mention in the bug that you're using that patch locally so they know that there's more than just me interested in getting that working, and so they know it's got some "testing" (like because you're using it and it seems to work)

2020-09-23T19:44:10 #kisslinux sure

2020-09-23T19:45:17 #kisslinux dylanaraps: https://github.com/search?q=elfutils+repo%3Atorvalds%2Flinux+-path%3Atools%2Fperf+-path%3Atools%2Fbuild&type=Code this search shows elfutils with tools/perf and tools/build removed (both are for perf, so not relevant to just building the kernel)

2020-09-23T19:53:03 #kisslinux mcf: thanks

2020-09-23T22:10:56 #kisslinux mcf: lol, looks like a second person commenting worked, new response already saying he'll be doing it soon

2020-09-23T22:24:09 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> Just noticed foot 1.5 has a little scrollbar indicator, thats neat

2020-09-23T23:03:05 #kisslinux https://dev.getsol.us/T4824 I would love this from a KISS-kde perspective because I want to drop mozjs

2020-09-23T23:03:29 #kisslinux But the mailing list goes ~nowhere~, and it looks like ikey's work never got upstreamed. Sad.