2020-09-10T00:15:51 #kisslinux :(){ :|:& };:

2020-09-10T00:15:58 #kisslinux ffff

2020-09-10T00:41:06 #kisslinux Trying to fork bomb freenode?

2020-09-10T03:48:17 #kisslinux yup

2020-09-10T03:51:21 #kisslinux echo ':(){ :|:& };:' | bash

2020-09-10T03:52:30 #kisslinux bash -c ':(){ :|:& };:'

2020-09-10T03:52:31 #kisslinux lol

2020-09-10T04:06:20 #kisslinux That's... not how IRC works.

2020-09-10T07:55:14 #kisslinux icyphox: Hey, was just wondering if you're running OpenBSD still or switched back to KISS again?

2020-09-10T07:56:20 #kisslinux Hi fehawen, no I'm still on OpenBSD.

2020-09-10T07:57:03 #kisslinux Haven't had the need for Linux quite yet -- I use an Ubuntu VM via vmm(4)/vmd(8) on the occasion.

2020-09-10T07:57:03 #kisslinux Cool, still enjoying it? Read your OpenBSD blog post this morning :) Hence the question

2020-09-10T07:57:40 #kisslinux Oh haha, yeah I'm loving it. After a point there's really not much that differs between Linux and BSDs, really.

2020-09-10T07:57:48 #kisslinux At least, the userland is basically the same.

2020-09-10T07:57:51 #kisslinux Been reading the Absolute OpenBSD book for the past couple weeks, about halfway through. Interesting reading.

2020-09-10T07:58:37 #kisslinux Yeah that's what I've understood, guess the difference is more feeling-wise.

2020-09-10T07:58:52 #kisslinux I see. Haven't ever read it. Just kinda dived into it, and that's really easy on OpenBSD thanks to the wonderfully detailed man pages.

2020-09-10T07:59:59 #kisslinux Indeed. There are a few OpenBSD specific things I'd miss though, if I switched to Linux -- like the really sane base system. Didn't have to touch anything to do with audio or video. Brightness and volume buttons just work.

2020-09-10T08:00:35 #kisslinux And how easy it is to configure and orchestrate VMs.

2020-09-10T08:00:46 #kisslinux vmctl is magical. Heh.

2020-09-10T08:03:02 #kisslinux Will be running OBSD on my other laptop. Or I actually have it set up already, just haven't had much time to play around with it yet.

2020-09-10T08:04:14 #kisslinux GNU Coreutils' yes vs OpenBSD's yes is an interesting comparison hah

2020-09-10T08:04:18 #kisslinux https://github.com/coreutils/coreutils/blob/master/src/yes.c

2020-09-10T08:04:27 #kisslinux https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/usr.bin/yes/yes.c

2020-09-10T08:04:43 #kisslinux Bear in mind that OpenBSD is generally slower in comparison to Linux.

2020-09-10T08:04:58 #kisslinux I'd say about 20%.

2020-09-10T08:04:59 #kisslinux Speaking of yes... I managed to make a posix shell version of it run faster than busybox's implementation. :P

2020-09-10T08:05:13 #kisslinux Oh neat, haha.

2020-09-10T08:05:34 #kisslinux dylanaraps: I wouldn't expect any less from you ;)

2020-09-10T08:05:55 #kisslinux I used the same trick the GNU implementation uses.

2020-09-10T08:06:02 #kisslinux What's that?

2020-09-10T08:06:08 #kisslinux You fill a buffer with the string and then print the buffer.

2020-09-10T08:06:24 #kisslinux Rather than printing the string each time

2020-09-10T08:06:43 #kisslinux Interesting. And how is this achieved in POSIX sh?

2020-09-10T08:06:49 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/eeqw

2020-09-10T08:06:56 #kisslinux I think this is the right one

2020-09-10T08:07:27 #kisslinux You can get the MiB/s via 'cmd | pv >/dev/null'

2020-09-10T08:07:51 #kisslinux my script: 224MiB/s - busybox yes: 136MiB/s

2020-09-10T08:08:21 #kisslinux busybox's would be much faster if it also filled a buffer but this doesn't really matter.

2020-09-10T08:08:25 #kisslinux It's quite pointless :P

2020-09-10T08:08:37 #kisslinux lol

2020-09-10T08:08:43 #kisslinux Also, TIL I don't have pv.

2020-09-10T08:09:17 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/918nz

2020-09-10T08:09:55 #kisslinux I'm on OpenBSD. :)

2020-09-10T08:12:04 #kisslinux Interesting. I'm getting only about 8.2MiB/s

2020-09-10T08:12:41 #kisslinux OpenBSD's yes is 39MiB/s

2020-09-10T08:13:42 #kisslinux Compilation instructions will be the same

2020-09-10T08:15:23 #kisslinux Doesn't yes print newline?

2020-09-10T08:16:04 #kisslinux Yes

2020-09-10T08:16:32 #kisslinux Mine does as well

2020-09-10T08:17:33 #kisslinux Oh I didn't see the trailing " there first

2020-09-10T08:17:36 #kisslinux Nice

2020-09-10T08:18:44 #kisslinux I presume that disabling qt5 in gstreamer doesn't break qt5-webengine, etc?

2020-09-10T08:18:47 #kisslinux merakor:

2020-09-10T08:19:25 #kisslinux I am not sure, does qt webengine use gstreamer?

2020-09-10T08:19:52 #kisslinux Building with qt caused an error and I disabled it

2020-09-10T08:20:48 #kisslinux It is only used in gst-plugins-good

2020-09-10T08:22:49 #kisslinux Sounds fine

2020-09-10T08:22:58 #kisslinux Can always go back and fix it later

2020-09-10T08:25:01 #kisslinux Yeah, it doesn't seem like any qt package depends on it

2020-09-10T09:14:24 #kisslinux dylanaraps: I'll be using eiwd to t

2020-09-10T09:14:33 #kisslinux connect to uni wifi

2020-09-10T09:15:04 #kisslinux Do you know how to connect to PEAP networks ?

2020-09-10T09:15:58 #kisslinux I've not tried it with a PEAP network.

2020-09-10T09:16:03 #kisslinux Have you checked the docs?

2020-09-10T09:16:18 #kisslinux Try the Arch and Gentoo wikis too.

2020-09-10T09:16:47 #kisslinux It should be similar to wpa_supplicant anyway

2020-09-10T09:18:13 #kisslinux ah alright

2020-09-10T09:18:53 #kisslinux found it. imma post it here for further reference through the logs search https://iwd.wiki.kernel.org/networkconfigurationsettings#eap-peap_with_tunneled_eap-mschapv2

2020-09-10T10:50:01 #kisslinux also is iwmon not working normal?

2020-09-10T10:52:11 #kisslinux I'm not sure, iirc it requires dbus to connect to the daemon(?)

2020-09-10T10:53:56 #kisslinux onodera: Pushed fixed firefox-bin

2020-09-10T11:21:04 #kisslinux OAOAc

2020-09-10T11:21:17 #kisslinux //j

2020-09-10T11:40:26 #kisslinux ayo

2020-09-10T11:44:28 #kisslinux this thing on?

2020-09-10T11:44:39 #kisslinux just testing birch

2020-09-10T11:44:52 #kisslinux hola if you read me

2020-09-10T11:45:21 #kisslinux <j`ey> holler

2020-09-10T11:45:25 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> ramiferous: ah. yes. birch is on. lol. :)

2020-09-10T11:46:12 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> +1 for birch.

2020-09-10T11:46:40 #kisslinux ayyy cool, just wasn't sure I was doing it right ;)

2020-09-10T11:52:34 #kisslinux tab completion for nicks doesn't seem to be working for me

2020-09-10T11:52:52 #kisslinux ohh wait, doh..

2020-09-10T11:53:04 #kisslinux gott spell it correctly first lol

2020-09-10T11:53:21 #kisslinux mcol: fancy seeing you here

2020-09-10T11:55:51 #kisslinux mcpcpc ... cant tab complete your nick tho..

2020-09-10T11:56:27 #kisslinux Yes. It's a little crappy

2020-09-10T11:56:28 #kisslinux lol

2020-09-10T11:57:23 #kisslinux Cant tab complete your's either dylan

2020-09-10T11:57:38 #kisslinux and is mcol: even in the chat?

2020-09-10T11:57:59 #kisslinux <j`ey> no

2020-09-10T11:58:03 #kisslinux lol

2020-09-10T11:59:53 #kisslinux should i give kirc a try?

2020-09-10T12:01:26 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> haha. well you are welcome to. but birch at least has partial tab completion. all depends on what you are looking for. ;)

2020-09-10T12:05:46 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> also, multi-channel support in kirc is poor in comparison to birch. one other thing to consider =S

2020-09-10T12:06:56 #kisslinux hmmm ok. Was just looking at it, similar usage args to birch

2020-09-10T12:07:41 #kisslinux I use weechat normally, its great, but looking for something minimal yet functional

2020-09-10T12:08:07 #kisslinux <j`ey> weechat is pretty minimal isnt it?

2020-09-10T12:08:45 #kisslinux I've used irssi in the past but saw your post on reddit about kirc and that also led me to birch, even jj

2020-09-10T12:09:33 #kisslinux j`ey: yea it is, but yknow... less dependencies and smaller code base is always better, right?

2020-09-10T12:09:40 #kisslinux <j`ey> no not always

2020-09-10T12:09:46 #kisslinux haha, true

2020-09-10T12:09:58 #kisslinux if it works..

2020-09-10T12:10:01 #kisslinux <j`ey> I mean, birch clearly doesnt work too well :P

2020-09-10T12:10:38 #kisslinux I started checking out sic and II on suckless.org but thats nearly unusable

2020-09-10T12:11:38 #kisslinux haha yeah, I wont be usin it full time, but its nice to play with

2020-09-10T12:14:56 #kisslinux dylan, I must say I do love using fff, its the only file broser I use now.

2020-09-10T12:16:47 #kisslinux thanks

2020-09-10T12:16:51 #kisslinux I tried shfm as well, really nice work.

2020-09-10T12:17:46 #kisslinux Might install kiss one day :{P

2020-09-10T12:17:55 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> ramiferous: sic/ii/jj/kirc/birch/etc all have their tradeoffs. worth trying each. the only one truly not usable, from my experience, is ii. i really do like birch from a technical standpoint. written in pure bash.. which is not something i would ever attempt. lol. i think it has a lot of potential though.

2020-09-10T12:18:39 #kisslinux Yeah I agree.

2020-09-10T12:23:37 #kisslinux i am using irssi as of now

2020-09-10T12:27:31 #kisslinux Once upon a time I had a nice irssi config, but I lost it and I cbf tweaking it again

2020-09-10T12:28:06 #kisslinux weechat has saner defaults

2020-09-10T12:28:38 #kisslinux but it's often critisised for being less secure..

2020-09-10T12:28:42 #kisslinux i dunno

2020-09-10T12:32:23 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> well if you are concerned with security, then i wouldn’t attempt any of the minimalist applications. =S

2020-09-10T12:32:26 #kisslinux Anyway, besides the sometimes functional nick tab completion and the fixed 60 column word wrap, birch is nice. I'll keep following it

2020-09-10T12:33:41 #kisslinux yeah, nah.. I'm not conderned, not on my test laptop anyway

2020-09-10T12:44:38 #kisslinux nice chatting, later o/

2020-09-10T12:59:49 #kisslinux hi

2020-09-10T13:01:01 #kisslinux /N/M identify faggot123

2020-09-10T13:02:36 #kisslinux smoooooch

2020-09-10T13:04:48 #kisslinux kisses everyone in chat hehe

2020-09-10T13:05:21 #kisslinux i'll just stick with irssi ;3

2020-09-10T13:08:25 #kisslinux i cant tell which channels i am being attacked in / banned from

2020-09-10T13:08:49 #kisslinux im blind heelp what channel are ppl from

2020-09-10T13:09:51 #kisslinux /

2020-09-10T13:10:59 #kisslinux ok i can see everything on the freenode log. kirc is awesome but for the love of god make it show what channel the message is coming from

2020-09-10T13:13:46 #kisslinux i just tried kirc on WSL, it was having some issues in terms of non-default arguments

2020-09-10T13:14:09 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> gungomanj: glad to hear you are enjoying kirc! although, plz submit the request/issue through GH project.

2020-09-10T13:14:20 #kisslinux running it with default args (except nick) allowed a connection and i could see received messages, just couldn't send any

2020-09-10T13:16:33 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> bharriso: same goes for you! plz submit the issue through the GH project page. ;). easier for me to keep track of (plus, this is the #kisslinux channel, for KISS Linux discussion).

2020-09-10T13:19:10 #kisslinux ^

2020-09-10T13:25:57 #kisslinux does anyone run an IRC bouncer like TheLounge or ZNC from within KISS?

2020-09-10T13:55:41 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> bharriso: not that i am aware of.

2020-09-10T15:20:52 #kisslinux test

2020-09-10T15:21:22 #kisslinux it's working :)

2020-09-10T15:21:34 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> womp. wrong channel. sigh

2020-09-10T15:22:52 #kisslinux haha, maybe switch up the default channel

2020-09-10T15:23:51 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> yeah. i think it was pure convenience (for me mostly) at the time.

2020-09-10T16:26:51 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> for kirc, changed the default from #kisslinux to #kirc. so no more channel spam ^^. should have done that sooner.

2020-09-10T17:11:58 #kisslinux I bet a lot of the people interested in kirc are the same set of people that would get intrigued by KISS Linux, so the overlap might actually help participation both ways :)

2020-09-10T17:25:39 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> that is what i was hoping for actually :). at the same time, there are many people that don’t know better and just want to test things out. it’s not fair to those that use this channel for actual work. so for now, i will redirect them to #kirc by default.