2020-01-14T00:58:05 #kisslinux is it just me?

2020-01-14T00:58:16 #kisslinux or old.reddit crashes on firefox-bin?

2020-01-14T00:59:20 #kisslinux hello

2020-01-14T00:59:30 #kisslinux o/

2020-01-14T01:01:30 #kisslinux old reddit indeed does crash on firefox-bin

2020-01-14T01:01:38 #kisslinux interesting, it does not load for me

2020-01-14T01:01:47 #kisslinux now it did, no crash

2020-01-14T01:02:14 #kisslinux oh

2020-01-14T01:02:38 #kisslinux huh

2020-01-14T01:03:01 #kisslinux tried with a fresh profile?

2020-01-14T01:03:46 #kisslinux yep

2020-01-14T01:04:17 #kisslinux i nuked everything before installing firefox-bin

2020-01-14T01:05:07 #kisslinux me too

2020-01-14T01:05:17 #kisslinux even did a reboot after that

2020-01-14T01:05:43 #kisslinux removed .cache, .mozilla, .local/share, then a reboot

2020-01-14T01:08:55 #kisslinux I tried a fresh profile to rule out my addons

2020-01-14T01:08:58 #kisslinux no crash

2020-01-14T01:10:23 #kisslinux oh, actually, I have firefox-privacy installed

2020-01-14T01:11:46 #kisslinux don't have that

2020-01-14T01:21:41 #kisslinux yep

2020-01-14T01:21:53 #kisslinux installed firefox-privacy and old reddit works

2020-01-14T01:21:56 #kisslinux i wonder why

2020-01-14T01:23:59 #kisslinux yeah, could be anything, cookies, storage

2020-01-14T02:43:36 #kisslinux > dylanaraps1: Mind if I post it on the subreddit?

2020-01-14T02:43:41 #kisslinux sure thing

2020-01-14T02:43:53 #kisslinux also, thanks. i'll fix the typo :)

2020-01-14T06:25:07 #kisslinux The cat is still going!

2020-01-14T06:36:10 #kisslinux dylanaraps: Glad!

2020-01-14T06:36:24 #kisslinux Here's praying for his full recovery. <3

2020-01-14T06:37:05 #kisslinux Thanks

2020-01-14T06:40:51 #kisslinux Does feh allow settting a hex background?

2020-01-14T06:40:58 #kisslinux Or will I have to use xsetroot for that

2020-01-14T06:42:23 #kisslinux Hm

2020-01-14T06:42:25 #kisslinux No idea

2020-01-14T06:54:44 #kisslinux God, Twitter is unusably slow on Firefox.

2020-01-14T06:55:01 #kisslinux It must be some missing setting. I've enabled HW accel and gfx.webrender.

2020-01-14T07:02:12 #kisslinux https://github.com/garybgenett/gary-os

2020-01-14T07:02:28 #kisslinux An entire GNU/Linux system in a single bootable file.

2020-01-14T07:02:32 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T07:04:23 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T07:06:10 #kisslinux Twitter runs fast for me

2020-01-14T07:06:27 #kisslinux OK, what settings did you enable from about:config?

2020-01-14T07:07:01 #kisslinux It's like the entire browser has these small stutters and jitters throughout.

2020-01-14T07:07:12 #kisslinux Noticeable enough to be annoying.

2020-01-14T07:07:38 #kisslinux gfx.webrender.enabled;true

2020-01-14T07:07:52 #kisslinux gfx.webrender.all;true

2020-01-14T07:08:54 #kisslinux html5.offmainthread;true

2020-01-14T07:10:37 #kisslinux OK turned on gfx.webrender.all

2020-01-14T07:10:42 #kisslinux Others were on.

2020-01-14T07:11:30 #kisslinux about:performance shows you memory/cpu usage of each addon/tab

2020-01-14T07:12:13 #kisslinux about:support shows helpful info about settings, the sandbox etc

2020-01-14T07:12:59 #kisslinux Neat. I'll take a look.

2020-01-14T07:13:20 #kisslinux Also: layers.acceleration.force-enabled;true

2020-01-14T07:13:38 #kisslinux Turns on hardware compositing

2020-01-14T07:16:32 #kisslinux Note: You need to restart Firefox too

2020-01-14T07:50:22 #kisslinux Yeah, I had that already enabled.

2020-01-14T07:50:29 #kisslinux I guess it feels alright now. Hmm.

2020-01-14T07:50:47 #kisslinux Web browsers are gross

2020-01-14T07:51:14 #kisslinux If it works well for me with the same settings it might not work for you...

2020-01-14T07:52:03 #kisslinux That's true.

2020-01-14T07:52:59 #kisslinux I'm going to give a shot at packaging something.

2020-01-14T07:53:05 #kisslinux I think I'll do aerc.

2020-01-14T07:54:14 #kisslinux Nice

2020-01-14T07:54:54 #kisslinux Do we install docs? Or is that removed?

2020-01-14T07:55:08 #kisslinux aerc has a shitty dependency on scdoc, just to build docs.

2020-01-14T07:55:32 #kisslinux Remove the docs then :P

2020-01-14T07:55:56 #kisslinux Cool.

2020-01-14T07:56:12 #kisslinux Or, I'll just build the docs myself and repkg?

2020-01-14T07:56:14 #kisslinux Hmmm.

2020-01-14T07:56:41 #kisslinux It's kinda hard to use without the docs, because Drew hasn't written any online doucumentation for it, lol.

2020-01-14T07:56:48 #kisslinux oh

2020-01-14T07:57:01 #kisslinux How large are the docs?

2020-01-14T07:57:17 #kisslinux They aren't large.

2020-01-14T07:57:21 #kisslinux Just a couple of man pages.

2020-01-14T07:57:29 #kisslinux But, it'll require scdoc just to build them.

2020-01-14T07:57:41 #kisslinux And nothing else uses scdoc. Useless.

2020-01-14T07:58:21 #kisslinux Here: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/aerc

2020-01-14T07:59:56 #kisslinux Just generate them and add them to the package in a dir called files/

2020-01-14T08:00:06 #kisslinux Then reference them in sources/ as files/aerc.1

2020-01-14T08:00:45 #kisslinux Won't they have to be put in /usr/share/man?

2020-01-14T08:00:49 #kisslinux yes

2020-01-14T08:00:54 #kisslinux I'll show you an example package

2020-01-14T08:00:58 #kisslinux Yes please.

2020-01-14T08:01:25 #kisslinux https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/tree/master/extra/acpid

2020-01-14T08:01:31 #kisslinux See how the .run file is handled

2020-01-14T08:02:33 #kisslinux Oh, neat.

2020-01-14T08:02:53 #kisslinux So files/ is implied, in the build script.

2020-01-14T08:04:31 #kisslinux yes

2020-01-14T08:04:49 #kisslinux All files in 'sources' are copied to that dir.

2020-01-14T08:04:59 #kisslinux I'll show you another example

2020-01-14T08:05:39 #kisslinux Ah. Makes sense.

2020-01-14T08:05:50 #kisslinux > https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/autoconf/autoconf-2.13.tar.gz autoconf2.13/

2020-01-14T08:05:54 #kisslinux (In sources)

2020-01-14T08:06:07 #kisslinux Extracts the archive to that subdir under the regular dir

2020-01-14T08:06:13 #kisslinux If it's a file it is copied to that dir

2020-01-14T08:06:21 #kisslinux So I'll just clean up this Makefile to remove all the docs related stuff.

2020-01-14T08:06:29 #kisslinux Cool.

2020-01-14T08:06:33 #kisslinux Can probably use a simple sed command

2020-01-14T08:07:24 #kisslinux Oh. Should I do that from within build?

2020-01-14T08:07:38 #kisslinux Gah, idk sed.

2020-01-14T08:07:51 #kisslinux Inside 'build' yeah

2020-01-14T08:08:05 #kisslinux sed -i 's/find/replace/' Makefile

2020-01-14T08:08:15 #kisslinux Well yeah I know that much.

2020-01-14T08:08:19 #kisslinux :P

2020-01-14T08:08:25 #kisslinux This is a little more involved.

2020-01-14T08:08:27 #kisslinux hah

2020-01-14T08:15:38 #kisslinux "The world's best email client"

2020-01-14T08:15:41 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T08:15:45 #kisslinux Bold claim

2020-01-14T08:17:06 #kisslinux icyphox: You could do

2020-01-14T08:17:27 #kisslinux Yes?

2020-01-14T08:17:27 #kisslinux sed -i 's/scdoc/:/g' Makefile

2020-01-14T08:17:36 #kisslinux This will fix the build.

2020-01-14T08:18:00 #kisslinux Oh.

2020-01-14T08:18:03 #kisslinux Let me see.

2020-01-14T08:18:03 #kisslinux Then, just add all the .1 files to sources and 'make install' should pick them up.

2020-01-14T08:19:03 #kisslinux Does kiss implement its own package removal functionality? Or does it rely on the packages Makefile?

2020-01-14T08:19:11 #kisslinux i.e. make uninstall?

2020-01-14T08:19:12 #kisslinux Its own

2020-01-14T08:19:22 #kisslinux Okay, I can nuke that as well. :P

2020-01-14T08:20:03 #kisslinux Woah

2020-01-14T08:20:11 #kisslinux It downloads a lot of stuff during build

2020-01-14T08:21:04 #kisslinux Yeah, sure does.

2020-01-14T08:21:35 #kisslinux I expected better on that front, from Drew. lol

2020-01-14T08:22:03 #kisslinux > sed -i 's/conf doc/conf/' Makefile

2020-01-14T08:22:09 #kisslinux That fixes 'make'

2020-01-14T08:22:22 #kisslinux So two sed calls?

2020-01-14T08:22:24 #kisslinux Skips 'make' from building docs

2020-01-14T08:22:34 #kisslinux Keeps 'make install' working

2020-01-14T08:22:51 #kisslinux Neat.

2020-01-14T08:25:03 #kisslinux See: https://github.com/dylanaraps/dylan-kiss/tree/master/aerc

2020-01-14T08:25:05 #kisslinux As an example

2020-01-14T08:25:30 #kisslinux Basically, put all the man pages in files/, reference them in sources and you're good to go.

2020-01-14T08:25:43 #kisslinux Yep, I'm doing just that.

2020-01-14T08:25:48 #kisslinux :D

2020-01-14T08:26:29 #kisslinux So you already packaged aerc?

2020-01-14T08:26:36 #kisslinux no no

2020-01-14T08:26:45 #kisslinux I just did this now to show you an example

2020-01-14T08:26:59 #kisslinux Hm wait. GitHub says 6 hours ago.

2020-01-14T08:27:04 #kisslinux Is my clock fucked? lmao

2020-01-14T08:27:19 #kisslinux Install tzdata

2020-01-14T08:27:29 #kisslinux Then use tzselect

2020-01-14T08:29:27 #kisslinux Funny, I'd already manually set TZ.

2020-01-14T08:29:48 #kisslinux Still says 6 hours ago. REEE

2020-01-14T08:30:46 #kisslinux -> readlink /etc/localtime

2020-01-14T08:31:04 #kisslinux It's empty?

2020-01-14T08:31:04 #kisslinux /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Athens on my machine

2020-01-14T08:31:14 #kisslinux Hm.

2020-01-14T08:31:18 #kisslinux Firefox reads from /etc/localtime instead of TZ

2020-01-14T08:31:40 #kisslinux So I manually link /etc/localtime to my tz?

2020-01-14T08:31:41 #kisslinux Install tzdata and run tzselect

2020-01-14T08:31:47 #kisslinux I did.

2020-01-14T08:32:09 #kisslinux Ah

2020-01-14T08:32:14 #kisslinux Try symlink manually.

2020-01-14T08:32:28 #kisslinux Okay.

2020-01-14T08:49:51 #kisslinux Let me see if we can safely swap to the LTS headers for linux-headers.

2020-01-14T08:50:03 #kisslinux Saves everyone downloading full kernel sources every week.

2020-01-14T08:50:25 #kisslinux Yes that'd be great lol. It's especially annoying when I have shitty internet.

2020-01-14T08:50:34 #kisslinux Takes around 40 mins to download.

2020-01-14T08:51:00 #kisslinux That's the ETA for me right now

2020-01-14T08:51:01 #kisslinux :P

2020-01-14T08:51:10 #kisslinux 44 Minutes

2020-01-14T08:51:53 #kisslinux rsync: failed to set permissions on "/usr/local/share/man": Not supported (95)

2020-01-14T08:51:57 #kisslinux That's weird.

2020-01-14T08:52:25 #kisslinux https://old.reddit.com/r/kisslinux/comments/eohhwa/five_days_in_a_tty/

2020-01-14T08:52:34 #kisslinux Someone just sent a comment btw

2020-01-14T08:52:52 #kisslinux hah

2020-01-14T08:52:59 #kisslinux icyphox: Show me your package so far?

2020-01-14T08:53:05 #kisslinux Also, regarding that error: I see it when I kiss i aerc.

2020-01-14T08:53:08 #kisslinux Sure, hang on.

2020-01-14T08:53:18 #kisslinux Should I create a repo?

2020-01-14T08:53:25 #kisslinux Up to you

2020-01-14T08:53:35 #kisslinux You could upload just the build file if you like

2020-01-14T08:53:41 #kisslinux yeah I'll do that for now

2020-01-14T08:54:00 #kisslinux https://x.icyphox.sh/i7E.build

2020-01-14T08:54:15 #kisslinux Remove: sed -i 's/scdoc/:/g' Makefile

2020-01-14T08:54:23 #kisslinux Add PREFIX=/usr to 'make install'.

2020-01-14T08:55:42 #kisslinux Oh right.

2020-01-14T08:57:12 #kisslinux Hmm. aerc fails to startup because of a missing template.

2020-01-14T08:57:40 #kisslinux Seems to have installed fine.

2020-01-14T08:57:41 #kisslinux Weird

2020-01-14T08:58:11 #kisslinux Might need to add 'PREFIX=/usr' to regular 'make' as well.

2020-01-14T08:58:31 #kisslinux Ah.

2020-01-14T08:59:06 #kisslinux Nope.

2020-01-14T08:59:14 #kisslinux Let me see.

2020-01-14T08:59:42 #kisslinux You can check /var/db/kiss/installed/aerc/manifest

2020-01-14T08:59:51 #kisslinux Will show you all of the package's files

2020-01-14T09:00:32 #kisslinux Oh yeah, I was looking for that.

2020-01-14T09:08:09 #kisslinux I think tzselect is mixing up IST (Indian Standard Time) and UTC for some reason.

2020-01-14T09:08:57 #kisslinux Selected time is now: Tue Jan 14 20:07:28 IST 2020.

2020-01-14T09:08:59 #kisslinux Universal Time is now: Tue Jan 14 14:37:28 UTC 2020.

2020-01-14T09:09:24 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T09:10:01 #kisslinux -> date

2020-01-14T09:10:01 #kisslinux Tue Jan 14 11:07:38 EET 2020

2020-01-14T09:10:01 #kisslinux -> hwclock

2020-01-14T09:10:01 #kisslinux 2020-01-14 11:07:40.263300+02:00

2020-01-14T09:10:10 #kisslinux Hm

2020-01-14T09:12:00 #kisslinux AH.

2020-01-14T09:12:06 #kisslinux my date is correct

2020-01-14T09:12:09 #kisslinux hwclock isn't

2020-01-14T09:12:16 #kisslinux :P

2020-01-14T09:12:21 #kisslinux I think a hwclock --systohc

2020-01-14T09:12:24 #kisslinux should fix it

2020-01-14T09:12:26 #kisslinux Yeah

2020-01-14T09:12:49 #kisslinux Oh fuck.

2020-01-14T09:12:54 #kisslinux It's --hctosys

2020-01-14T09:13:00 #kisslinux Aargh.

2020-01-14T09:13:42 #kisslinux -w, --systohc set the RTC from the system time

2020-01-14T09:13:56 #kisslinux oh

2020-01-14T09:14:09 #kisslinux huh, why'd that fuck up hwclock then

2020-01-14T09:14:24 #kisslinux no

2020-01-14T09:14:28 #kisslinux it fucked up date

2020-01-14T09:14:40 #kisslinux I'll manually set it

2020-01-14T09:19:01 #kisslinux HUH

2020-01-14T09:19:09 #kisslinux dylanaraps: doing sudo aerc works

2020-01-14T09:19:27 #kisslinux Otherwise it complains about missing templates.

2020-01-14T09:20:43 #kisslinux Send me the log?

2020-01-14T09:21:25 #kisslinux What log?

2020-01-14T09:21:40 #kisslinux The terminal output

2020-01-14T09:22:10 #kisslinux Of kiss i aerc?

2020-01-14T09:22:17 #kisslinux > it complains about missing templates.

2020-01-14T09:22:22 #kisslinux Right.

2020-01-14T09:22:23 #kisslinux Of this

2020-01-14T09:22:24 #kisslinux yeah

2020-01-14T09:22:26 #kisslinux OK

2020-01-14T09:22:31 #kisslinux Pushed the LTS headers.

2020-01-14T09:22:31 #kisslinux That's just:

2020-01-14T09:22:33 #kisslinux ~

2020-01-14T09:22:35 #kisslinux ▲ aerc

2020-01-14T09:22:37 #kisslinux Failed to load config: Can't find template - quoted_reply

2020-01-14T09:22:49 #kisslinux But the template is at /usr/share/aerc/templates/quoted_reply

2020-01-14T09:23:01 #kisslinux Ah

2020-01-14T09:23:13 #kisslinux ls -l /usr/share/aerc/templates/quoted_reply ?

2020-01-14T09:23:18 #kisslinux And, aerc.conf has /usr/share/aerc/templates as the templates dir set.

2020-01-14T09:23:38 #kisslinux -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 141 Jan 14 20:15 /usr/share/aerc/templates/quoted_reply

2020-01-14T09:23:43 #kisslinux Hm

2020-01-14T09:23:48 #kisslinux You hae read permissions

2020-01-14T09:23:54 #kisslinux s/hae/have/

2020-01-14T09:24:00 #kisslinux Yeah. That should be enough.

2020-01-14T09:24:10 #kisslinux yeah

2020-01-14T09:24:19 #kisslinux Upload your package somewhere and I'll install it

2020-01-14T09:24:30 #kisslinux Alright, hang on.

2020-01-14T09:25:24 #kisslinux shouldn't hwclock be UTC anyway?

2020-01-14T09:27:06 #kisslinux konimex: yes, but the UTC time is IST, and IST is UTC.

2020-01-14T09:27:08 #kisslinux in my case

2020-01-14T09:27:18 #kisslinux dylanaraps: https://github.com/icyphox/icy-kiss

2020-01-14T09:28:34 #kisslinux icyphox: You also need to add ncurses to depends

2020-01-14T09:29:06 #kisslinux > Welcome to aerc! Let's configure your account.

2020-01-14T09:29:34 #kisslinux Hmmm? Oh really.

2020-01-14T09:29:49 #kisslinux yeah

2020-01-14T09:29:54 #kisslinux I get no error btw

2020-01-14T09:30:01 #kisslinux Huh. Odd.

2020-01-14T09:30:10 #kisslinux Are you using your own config?

2020-01-14T09:30:25 #kisslinux It builds without ncurses though?

2020-01-14T09:30:32 #kisslinux No dylanaraps. Not yet.

2020-01-14T09:30:50 #kisslinux icyphox: Oh

2020-01-14T09:30:52 #kisslinux Let me check

2020-01-14T09:31:35 #kisslinux Yup

2020-01-14T09:31:36 #kisslinux nvm

2020-01-14T09:31:52 #kisslinux So no ncurses?

2020-01-14T09:31:55 #kisslinux no ncurses

2020-01-14T09:31:56 #kisslinux :P

2020-01-14T09:31:59 #kisslinux heh

2020-01-14T09:32:08 #kisslinux But it installs and runs ok?

2020-01-14T09:32:12 #kisslinux Yes

2020-01-14T09:32:15 #kisslinux Wew.

2020-01-14T09:32:15 #kisslinux hang on

2020-01-14T09:32:45 #kisslinux Yes

2020-01-14T09:33:04 #kisslinux It runs fine for me

2020-01-14T09:33:11 #kisslinux That's super weird.

2020-01-14T09:33:14 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T09:33:40 #kisslinux 'go' should be a make dep too I think.

2020-01-14T09:33:50 #kisslinux 'go make' in depends instead of 'go'.

2020-01-14T09:34:07 #kisslinux Ah yeah.

2020-01-14T09:34:56 #kisslinux So what now? Ship it?

2020-01-14T09:35:05 #kisslinux But it doesn't work for me. :P

2020-01-14T09:35:15 #kisslinux Hm

2020-01-14T09:35:35 #kisslinux Try: 'kiss r aerc; kiss b aerc; kiss i aerc'

2020-01-14T09:35:43 #kisslinux Rebuild it fully

2020-01-14T09:35:51 #kisslinux Did that like thrice already. LOL

2020-01-14T09:35:55 #kisslinux OH

2020-01-14T09:35:56 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T09:37:03 #kisslinux We have mutt in community too... lol

2020-01-14T09:37:15 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T09:37:22 #kisslinux I've only ever used aerc.

2020-01-14T09:37:29 #kisslinux Also

2020-01-14T09:37:41 #kisslinux It works fine when I build from source.

2020-01-14T09:37:42 #kisslinux Myself.

2020-01-14T09:37:49 #kisslinux Not via kiss.

2020-01-14T09:37:51 #kisslinux Interesting

2020-01-14T09:49:48 #kisslinux Woah

2020-01-14T09:50:01 #kisslinux You know my gnu grep idea as a performance boost?

2020-01-14T09:50:09 #kisslinux It's so much faster

2020-01-14T09:55:04 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> interesting

2020-01-14T09:55:18 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> I was wondering if awk had any chance of beating BusyBox grep

2020-01-14T09:55:47 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> nawk/mawk that is

2020-01-14T09:56:38 #kisslinux GNU grep is almost 50 years old lol

2020-01-14T09:56:39 #kisslinux It's amazing

2020-01-14T09:57:49 #kisslinux and it still works fine

2020-01-14T10:01:52 #kisslinux Pushed the change

2020-01-14T10:02:02 #kisslinux dylanaraps: how is your cat doing?

2020-01-14T10:02:29 #kisslinux He's doing OK

2020-01-14T10:02:56 #kisslinux Still in a bad state

2020-01-14T10:03:03 #kisslinux But he's hydrated

2020-01-14T10:03:35 #kisslinux Yesterday morning he was skin and bone

2020-01-14T10:04:07 #kisslinux He's keeping medicine etc down know too

2020-01-14T10:04:14 #kisslinux Was throwing them back up yesterday

2020-01-14T10:04:35 #kisslinux His bowels work again which is a sign that his organs haven't shut down

2020-01-14T10:05:06 #kisslinux Will know if he will be OK if he makes it through the night

2020-01-14T10:05:24 #kisslinux Cats which survive it for 5~ days tend to make a full recovery

2020-01-14T10:06:23 #kisslinux https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/3c251759bb310d9785e1efc3bddaef438aa0aca5

2020-01-14T10:06:30 #kisslinux This is the gnugrep feature

2020-01-14T10:07:25 #kisslinux I hope he will do it!

2020-01-14T10:07:35 #kisslinux Thanks :)

2020-01-14T10:08:29 #kisslinux The doctor down here loves animals more than people and if things get worse he'll come by and put in a proper IV.

2020-01-14T10:08:32 #kisslinux best of luck for you and your cat man

2020-01-14T10:08:49 #kisslinux Thanks

2020-01-14T10:08:50 #kisslinux I had a scare with my dog the other day, thought she had GDV

2020-01-14T10:09:01 #kisslinux thankfully she's OK now, hope the same turns out for you

2020-01-14T10:09:10 #kisslinux Ouch

2020-01-14T10:09:12 #kisslinux Thanks

2020-01-14T10:09:32 #kisslinux This house here has become an animal hospital lol

2020-01-14T10:09:55 #kisslinux There's anywhere between 7-10 cats at a time

2020-01-14T10:14:44 #kisslinux dylanaraps: how do i integrate my xinitrc into your x script? through a function?

2020-01-14T10:39:45 #kisslinux yeah

2020-01-14T10:39:55 #kisslinux Then call that function from the trap handler

2020-01-14T10:40:28 #kisslinux thanks :D

2020-01-14T10:41:48 #kisslinux i'm bored so i'm just here looking at build scripts

2020-01-14T10:42:27 #kisslinux the volcanic ash fall in here is pretty bad that people can't go outside

2020-01-14T10:43:06 #kisslinux Where are you located?

2020-01-14T10:43:41 #kisslinux in the Philippines

2020-01-14T10:44:24 #kisslinux Ah

2020-01-14T10:44:33 #kisslinux I'm reading about the volcano now

2020-01-14T10:45:19 #kisslinux yeah small but terrible

2020-01-14T10:45:30 #kisslinux hasn't been that active for years or so

2020-01-14T11:06:57 #kisslinux does one need an irc account to use birch?

2020-01-14T11:12:55 #kisslinux nope

2020-01-14T11:13:07 #kisslinux Just need to pick a nick which isn't registered

2020-01-14T11:24:12 #kisslinux ahh it needs # lol

2020-01-14T11:28:06 #kisslinux /clear

2020-01-14T11:28:20 #kisslinux oops

2020-01-14T11:38:29 #kisslinux evening

2020-01-14T11:38:47 #kisslinux lieuxnoir: oh you're in ph?

2020-01-14T11:38:56 #kisslinux do you play Dota :P

2020-01-14T11:39:04 #kisslinux icyphox: yep

2020-01-14T11:39:10 #kisslinux not anymore lol

2020-01-14T11:40:40 #kisslinux lol, same

2020-01-14T11:40:51 #kisslinux i kinda want to

2020-01-14T11:40:54 #kisslinux i wasn't so good at it so it stopped

2020-01-14T11:41:05 #kisslinux i'll probably have to set up a glibc chroot

2020-01-14T11:41:13 #kisslinux might play again if i find time

2020-01-14T11:41:14 #kisslinux and install steam in it

2020-01-14T11:41:19 #kisslinux ah

2020-01-14T11:41:56 #kisslinux but i'm still active in reading changes lol

2020-01-14T11:42:55 #kisslinux me too

2020-01-14T11:43:08 #kisslinux some pretty ridiculous patches haha

2020-01-14T11:43:23 #kisslinux I switched to the simple script to start X

2020-01-14T11:43:33 #kisslinux now parts of my xinitrc don't work anymore, strange

2020-01-14T11:43:48 #kisslinux xset and setxkbmap in particular

2020-01-14T11:44:05 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/h538

2020-01-14T11:49:25 #kisslinux ah, "xset: cannot open display"

2020-01-14T11:49:28 #kisslinux expected that

2020-01-14T11:59:45 #kisslinux dylanaraps: what's the most expensive grep call in kiss?

2020-01-14T12:23:20 #kisslinux Aarg: You need to set 'export DISPLAY=:0' prior to running the script

2020-01-14T12:24:36 #kisslinux dylanaraps: does eiwd generate a psk for its .network files?

2020-01-14T12:25:43 #kisslinux s/.network/.psk

2020-01-14T12:26:38 #kisslinux DISPLAY is in it's environment

2020-01-14T12:28:07 #kisslinux do you use xset in your initialization script?

2020-01-14T12:34:15 #kisslinux Yeah

2020-01-14T12:34:33 #kisslinux lieuxnoir: You need to create the fils.

2020-01-14T12:34:37 #kisslinux s/fils/files/

2020-01-14T12:34:45 #kisslinux iwc can do it for you with 'iwc auth' though

2020-01-14T12:34:55 #kisslinux Aarg: Look in pkg_conflicts() and pkg_fixdeps()

2020-01-14T12:35:07 #kisslinux (grep related)

2020-01-14T12:35:17 #kisslinux ok

2020-01-14T12:35:29 #kisslinux I was looking around already

2020-01-14T12:35:52 #kisslinux One time you use for loop on a glob when you could just use grep alone

2020-01-14T12:36:10 #kisslinux I will give you the exact line in a bit, need to finish something first

2020-01-14T12:36:36 #kisslinux I know where I think. pkg_remove()

2020-01-14T12:38:56 #kisslinux yap, that's the one

2020-01-14T12:40:38 #kisslinux you would have to construct required_by differenty though

2020-01-14T12:41:51 #kisslinux Aarg: Do you mind sharing your /etc/ntp.conf?

2020-01-14T12:44:26 #kisslinux I dont use one, I call ntpd once in non-daemon mode after I setup my net

2020-01-14T12:44:51 #kisslinux ntpd -nqp 192.168.178.1 &

2020-01-14T12:44:54 #kisslinux that's all I do

2020-01-14T12:45:03 #kisslinux oh

2020-01-14T12:45:32 #kisslinux Is that a peer on your local net

2020-01-14T12:45:33 #kisslinux no point in having it running, this machine reboots daily anyway

2020-01-14T12:45:34 #kisslinux ?

2020-01-14T12:45:39 #kisslinux It's my router

2020-01-14T12:45:46 #kisslinux Ah

2020-01-14T12:45:54 #kisslinux Wait, I can sync with my router?

2020-01-14T12:46:12 #kisslinux if it has an ntpd running, yes

2020-01-14T12:46:20 #kisslinux most ntpd's are a client and server

2020-01-14T12:46:38 #kisslinux let me check if my campus network does :P

2020-01-14T12:46:48 #kisslinux i got a response: 'Alarm clock'

2020-01-14T12:46:50 #kisslinux what does that mean

2020-01-14T12:46:53 #kisslinux lmao

2020-01-14T12:46:59 #kisslinux uuh, good question :D

2020-01-14T12:48:03 #kisslinux oh, that's an error

2020-01-14T12:48:05 #kisslinux :D

2020-01-14T12:49:20 #kisslinux heh

2020-01-14T12:49:52 #kisslinux oh interesting

2020-01-14T12:49:54 #kisslinux it's not from ntpd

2020-01-14T12:49:58 #kisslinux it's SIGALRM

2020-01-14T12:50:03 #kisslinux https://dev.archive.openwrt.org/ticket/14541

2020-01-14T12:50:17 #kisslinux likely a bug in busybox ntpd

2020-01-14T12:51:00 #kisslinux oh not a bug

2020-01-14T12:51:04 #kisslinux feature

2020-01-14T12:51:06 #kisslinux heh

2020-01-14T12:51:12 #kisslinux haha

2020-01-14T12:51:23 #kisslinux i think my campus firewall's blocking this

2020-01-14T12:52:22 #kisslinux is there just one server in that network?

2020-01-14T12:52:59 #kisslinux i don't really know

2020-01-14T12:53:12 #kisslinux or they don't run ntpd

2020-01-14T12:53:17 #kisslinux oh wait i think it's a windows server

2020-01-14T12:53:20 #kisslinux haha

2020-01-14T12:53:32 #kisslinux yeah, hence no response

2020-01-14T12:54:25 #kisslinux lol ok

2020-01-14T12:59:07 #kisslinux icyphox, I added neatvi to community btw

2020-01-14T12:59:12 #kisslinux if you haven't tried it yet

2020-01-14T12:59:23 #kisslinux cool i'll check it out

2020-01-14T13:08:38 #kisslinux ok, so doing what kiss-orphans does with busybox awk instead of grep is 40ms slower, dylanaraps

2020-01-14T13:08:45 #kisslinux will try mawk now

2020-01-14T13:09:20 #kisslinux if it actually beats bb grep by a large enough margin, I will write a little ggrep replacement just for in kiss

2020-01-14T13:09:36 #kisslinux -in

2020-01-14T13:12:40 #kisslinux dylanaraps: i mean the PreSharedKey

2020-01-14T13:12:57 #kisslinux some psk files store only the plaintext

2020-01-14T13:13:08 #kisslinux some had a PreSharedKey

2020-01-14T13:16:39 #kisslinux Oh

2020-01-14T13:16:41 #kisslinux Maybe

2020-01-14T13:23:05 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/u5v8

2020-01-14T13:23:30 #kisslinux lol i'm terrible with shell

2020-01-14T13:23:33 #kisslinux help

2020-01-14T13:28:11 #kisslinux is it not working like this?

2020-01-14T13:28:14 #kisslinux because it looks good

2020-01-14T13:28:22 #kisslinux nope

2020-01-14T13:28:37 #kisslinux just a black screen and nothing else

2020-01-14T13:28:49 #kisslinux remove the exec

2020-01-14T13:29:11 #kisslinux and put DISPLAY before sowm

2020-01-14T13:29:57 #kisslinux s/before/in front of/

2020-01-14T13:33:35 #kisslinux then just a trap func USR1, yes?

2020-01-14T13:34:28 #kisslinux yeah

2020-01-14T13:41:39 #kisslinux it works and it also doesn't work

2020-01-14T13:42:42 #kisslinux if i added other commands before DISPLAY=:0 sowm

2020-01-14T13:42:46 #kisslinux they won't run

2020-01-14T13:47:07 #kisslinux Hm

2020-01-14T13:47:33 #kisslinux Add 'export DISPLAY=:0' to the top of the script

2020-01-14T13:47:58 #kisslinux what are you trying to run?

2020-01-14T13:48:27 #kisslinux setroot -s path/to/wallpaper

2020-01-14T13:48:45 #kisslinux but if i add DISPLAY=:0 again in front of it, it works lol

2020-01-14T13:48:46 #kisslinux xset does not work for me either

2020-01-14T13:49:24 #kisslinux I'm sure you need xauth if you want to run programs at that point

2020-01-14T13:49:29 #kisslinux nope

2020-01-14T13:49:33 #kisslinux Mine all work fine

2020-01-14T13:49:46 #kisslinux using xset?

2020-01-14T13:49:51 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/bas4

2020-01-14T13:50:10 #kisslinux hmmm

2020-01-14T13:50:11 #kisslinux I launch xorg with:

2020-01-14T13:50:11 #kisslinux export DISPLAY=:0

2020-01-14T13:50:12 #kisslinux exec x

2020-01-14T13:50:20 #kisslinux x being this script:

2020-01-14T13:50:32 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/5d37o

2020-01-14T13:52:15 #kisslinux oh well

2020-01-14T13:52:27 #kisslinux i'll just keep xinitrc separate as well

2020-01-14T13:53:57 #kisslinux You maintain compatibility with startx/xinit this way too.

2020-01-14T13:54:21 #kisslinux not working, even when exporting DISPLAY prior to running the script

2020-01-14T13:55:24 #kisslinux Hm

2020-01-14T13:55:28 #kisslinux brb

2020-01-14T13:55:41 #kisslinux There might be a reason for xinit being 1000~ lines long afterall

2020-01-14T13:55:42 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T13:55:53 #kisslinux s/afterall/after all/

2020-01-14T13:56:12 #kisslinux hehe

2020-01-14T13:56:32 #kisslinux still weird that it works for you though

2020-01-14T13:58:40 #kisslinux xset: unable to open display ":0"

2020-01-14T13:58:42 #kisslinux is what I get

2020-01-14T14:09:03 #kisslinux Odd

2020-01-14T15:02:17 #kisslinux Aarg: try :1

2020-01-14T15:08:34 #kisslinux waiting for someone to package libreoffice lol

2020-01-14T15:19:34 #kisslinux same error, but just with :1

2020-01-14T15:34:19 #kisslinux Aarg: how about DISPLAY=0?

2020-01-14T15:36:33 #kisslinux leaves me with a blank, unresponsive screen

2020-01-14T15:37:10 #kisslinux have it only in front of xset?

2020-01-14T15:37:32 #kisslinux leaving the others with :0

2020-01-14T15:38:44 #kisslinux yeah, does not work either

2020-01-14T15:39:15 #kisslinux hm

2020-01-14T15:39:31 #kisslinux it seems to account for the missing colon and gives the same error about ":0"

2020-01-14T15:58:04 #kisslinux has anyone here tried using bedrock linux using kiss as it's base?

2020-01-14T15:58:19 #kisslinux s/it's/its

2020-01-14T16:10:04 #kisslinux dylanaraps: I remembered that the x264 configure script POSIX patch wasn't complete so I made my own that I think covers everything, anything you'd switch or that I could do better with this? http://ix.io/27o8

2020-01-14T16:10:39 #kisslinux I don't mean further changes to be made, I tried to keep them pretty limited to POSIX compatibility changes and pretty much no other improvements, I just mean thoughts on the actual changes I made

2020-01-14T16:11:29 #kisslinux asking cuz I'm gonna try to upstream it

2020-01-14T16:17:49 #kisslinux I'd do for arg in "$@"; do -> for arg do

2020-01-14T16:21:16 #kisslinux I'm not really a fan of for arg, it feels like it makes it less clear what's being done to those unaware of that feature for no added benefit

2020-01-14T16:22:42 #kisslinux it's also just easier to spot for arg in "$@" quickly

2020-01-14T16:25:20 #kisslinux most people are unaware of it, that's true

2020-01-14T16:26:59 #kisslinux yeah, like knowing what a for loop is and knowing what "$@" does are kinda necessary if you want to do shell things at all, knowing about for arg; do not so much

2020-01-14T16:29:47 #kisslinux I like my code to be concise it also conveys the author knows what he's doing

2020-01-14T16:29:56 #kisslinux but I agree, readability is more important

2020-01-14T16:31:21 #kisslinux i wish i had the time to learn and practice code

2020-01-14T16:34:46 #kisslinux I guess that typically I do actually prefer conciseness (except for quoting and braces, which for some reason I feel compelled to put on literally everything ,except quotes on words I need to split obviously) and more advanced features over readability, maybe I'll start using for arg; do

2020-01-14T16:35:32 #kisslinux you don't even need the semicolon

2020-01-14T16:36:07 #kisslinux wow, if I'd known that I would've switched to it when I first learned about it awesome

2020-01-14T16:37:04 #kisslinux http://ix.io/27oj updated with switch to for arg do

2020-01-14T16:37:59 #kisslinux I've no idea how portable it is actually

2020-01-14T16:39:28 #kisslinux E5ten: Looks good

2020-01-14T16:40:35 #kisslinux I'd break the patch into multiple smaller ones though

2020-01-14T16:40:53 #kisslinux A lot easier to merge upstream

2020-01-14T16:42:22 #kisslinux oh wow I didn't realize it was like a 500 line diff, thought it was gonna be like 2-300

2020-01-14T16:44:22 #kisslinux Send an initial smaller patch and say "This is the first of many patches to make the script compatible with POSIX shells"

2020-01-14T17:03:54 #kisslinux https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Red-Hat-Make-Goals

2020-01-14T17:03:58 #kisslinux > Goals: Red Hat Developer Working On New Tool To Improve Upon Make

2020-01-14T17:04:01 #kisslinux Oh no

2020-01-14T17:04:20 #kisslinux About it: http://git.annexia.org/?p=libguestfs-talks.git;a=blob;f=2020-goals/notes.txt;h=b03d9e5ea1062869c642a1850a09340ea1575116;hb=HEAD

2020-01-14T17:05:37 #kisslinux "red hat developer working" uh oh

2020-01-14T17:06:53 #kisslinux http://git.annexia.org/?p=goals.git;a=blob;f=Goalfile.in;h=1885d20d6ac50614ceeeb08d6de19d7a60e0295e;hb=HEAD

2020-01-14T17:06:56 #kisslinux Example file?

2020-01-14T17:07:05 #kisslinux Tool is called "Goal"?

2020-01-14T17:07:22 #kisslinux * E5ten sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MxbDavMgiBjKgmvdaOVwequU >

2020-01-14T17:07:24 #kisslinux OH NO

2020-01-14T17:07:25 #kisslinux > Requirements:

2020-01-14T17:07:30 #kisslinux > - OCaml compiler

2020-01-14T17:07:36 #kisslinux > - ocamllex (usually included with the OCaml compiler)

2020-01-14T17:07:36 #kisslinux oh no

2020-01-14T17:07:38 #kisslinux get outta here

2020-01-14T17:07:40 #kisslinux > - ocaml findlib

2020-01-14T17:07:43 #kisslinux this has got to be a prank

2020-01-14T17:07:47 #kisslinux > - menhir (an OCaml-based parser generator)

2020-01-14T17:07:52 #kisslinux > - pod2man and pod2text (part of Perl, for generating documentation)

2020-01-14T17:07:56 #kisslinux > - autoconf and automake

2020-01-14T17:07:58 #kisslinux oh god

2020-01-14T17:08:06 #kisslinux well

2020-01-14T17:08:10 #kisslinux at least there's pod2mdoc ;)

2020-01-14T17:08:57 #kisslinux Oh god

2020-01-14T17:09:05 #kisslinux You can put urls in the "Goalfiles"

2020-01-14T17:09:12 #kisslinux "Works with not just files"

2020-01-14T17:10:51 #kisslinux >

2020-01-14T17:10:52 #kisslinux Red Hat does maintain a copyright on the Goals files, so he is at least working on it partially in a Red Hat capacity.

2020-01-14T17:11:11 #kisslinux huh

2020-01-14T17:12:21 #kisslinux I kinda thought that was assumed anyway

2020-01-14T17:55:44 #kisslinux 18:07 * E5ten sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MxbDavMgiBjKgmvdaOVwequU >

2020-01-14T17:56:08 #kisslinux just so you are aware what it did to your message

2020-01-14T18:13:26 #kisslinux Nice

2020-01-14T18:13:27 #kisslinux E5ten:

2020-01-14T19:00:55 #kisslinux Hey guys

2020-01-14T19:01:09 #kisslinux What do you think would be the easiest 3rd party generic kernel to use with kiss would be

2020-01-14T19:01:31 #kisslinux One that supports a wide range of hardware, includes firmware and initramfs

2020-01-14T19:12:21 #kisslinux Hm

2020-01-14T19:12:30 #kisslinux I'd imagine that they're all large.

2020-01-14T19:17:19 #kisslinux well

2020-01-14T19:17:28 #kisslinux i dont care about it at this point, i'm having so much trouble on this machine

2020-01-14T19:17:39 #kisslinux i just want something easy to slap in that would keep kiss alive

2020-01-14T19:18:25 #kisslinux I think we should even offer an official solution in regards to this, if there is a sane oen

2020-01-14T19:19:04 #kisslinux I was trying to get my friend here locally to install kiss, he is a programmer works for spreedly.com , really knows his sh* ... But when I told him he'd have to do his own kernel ala gentoo, he immediately lost intrest

2020-01-14T19:20:22 #kisslinux I wonder how many people out there, are just too busy to tinker with kernels every time they get a new pc. Funtoo (from creator of gentoo) offers debian-sources, for this same reason as well. It's a real issue and could be a selling point if we have a binary generic kernel/firmware/initramfs option that 'just worked' out of the box

2020-01-14T19:21:08 #kisslinux Well, managing your own kernel is part of the overall system. The only way this is "solved" in other distributions is a monolithic module filled kernel and a hacky initramfs to glue the init process.

2020-01-14T19:22:02 #kisslinux One could provide a module-less "general", "distro" kernel though it'd be quite large.

2020-01-14T19:22:29 #kisslinux The issue also arises where I don't want proprietary firmware (or software) anywhere near our repositories.

2020-01-14T19:23:41 #kisslinux This also has the benefit of raising the bar of entry (ala Arch's install process) as KISS isn't for the average user.

2020-01-14T19:24:14 #kisslinux oh I assume that was the message where I sent links to the x264 script patch split up into a set

2020-01-14T19:24:31 #kisslinux Yup

2020-01-14T19:25:23 #kisslinux I wish the kernel process were easier but overall it's a great learning exercise.

2020-01-14T19:28:02 #kisslinux To provide kernels we'd need to create our own initramfs tooling.

2020-01-14T19:28:45 #kisslinux We'd additionally need to build the damn thing and host it somewhere.

2020-01-14T19:29:08 #kisslinux I think not providing kernels is fine

2020-01-14T19:29:12 #kisslinux Which kernel do we provide? The current, LTS, both?

2020-01-14T19:29:28 #kisslinux well if any I'd say current

2020-01-14T19:30:10 #kisslinux Then there'd also be a responsibility to the kernel and initramfs process which is largely error-prone.

2020-01-14T19:30:46 #kisslinux I also have no means of testing the -bin kernels or the initramfs process.

2020-01-14T19:32:57 #kisslinux If the manual process weeds out users who are unwilling to do this then that is a good thing.

2020-01-14T19:33:18 #kisslinux the current "build your own kernel with everything built in and no initramfs" feels much more "kiss" than providing kernels would

2020-01-14T19:34:28 #kisslinux All good points

2020-01-14T19:34:31 #kisslinux Note: I make no money from KISS and my time has value.

2020-01-14T19:37:34 #kisslinux However weeding out people who we will call non-kernel-tweakers just ensures this distro will never amount to being more than for hobbyists

2020-01-14T19:37:57 #kisslinux I love this distro and could see the sky being the limit

2020-01-14T19:38:02 #kisslinux ^_^

2020-01-14T19:40:22 #kisslinux It's less about unwillingness to compile the kernel and more about levels of overall patience and technical ability.

2020-01-14T19:42:07 #kisslinux I'd also like to note that KISS will never see a governance structure larger than myself. The entire distribution is designed to be maintainable by a single person.

2020-01-14T19:43:01 #kisslinux However, user repositories allow the distribution to be extended infinitely.

2020-01-14T19:43:26 #kisslinux Right. And nothing is stopping us from forking

2020-01-14T19:43:33 #kisslinux If we don't like a direction you take

2020-01-14T19:43:40 #kisslinux Of course

2020-01-14T19:43:41 #kisslinux Or if you fall off the earth

2020-01-14T19:43:46 #kisslinux like what happened in void

2020-01-14T19:43:55 #kisslinux You have total control to keep your system in check.

2020-01-14T19:44:05 #kisslinux That was the idea from the start.

2020-01-14T19:44:10 #kisslinux I'm not going anywhere though.

2020-01-14T19:45:42 #kisslinux There's also no wrong direction for me to take as KISS isn't a moving target.

2020-01-14T19:45:45 #kisslinux I would like to see a list of developers / contributors / team

2020-01-14T19:45:52 #kisslinux I wouldn't

2020-01-14T19:45:53 #kisslinux Not governance, this would be different.

2020-01-14T19:46:12 #kisslinux It would motivate people, it would motivate me!

2020-01-14T19:46:25 #kisslinux I'm trying to get a job

2020-01-14T19:46:32 #kisslinux And I need to build up a list of stuff I do

2020-01-14T19:46:37 #kisslinux a resume of sorts

2020-01-14T19:46:44 #kisslinux adamantium: https://github.com/kisslinux/community/graphs/contributors

2020-01-14T19:47:11 #kisslinux The only time I'd have others formally working on KISS is if I hired them myself.

2020-01-14T19:47:24 #kisslinux Which will happen eventually.

2020-01-14T19:47:51 #kisslinux (wink wink)

2020-01-14T19:49:51 #kisslinux Makes sense

2020-01-14T20:04:52 #kisslinux Hey what happened re the crashing of firefox-bin on reddit.old

2020-01-14T20:05:57 #kisslinux I can't reproduce the issue and no one has sent any logs. :P

2020-01-14T20:06:11 #kisslinux (firefox > file 2>&1)

2020-01-14T20:06:26 #kisslinux (Make it crash while running under this command and send me the file)

2020-01-14T20:06:59 #kisslinux Aarg and lieuxnoir were discussing it

2020-01-14T20:07:37 #kisslinux 'fixed' by installing firefox-privacy . . .?

2020-01-14T20:08:01 #kisslinux Apparently, yeah.

2020-01-14T20:08:24 #kisslinux Which means that it is an about:config issue in the default Firefox configuration.

2020-01-14T20:08:44 #kisslinux interesting. ok. no worries

2020-01-14T20:08:47 #kisslinux Logs will help me discern exactly what is wrong though.

2020-01-14T20:09:32 #kisslinux (I can't reproduce even without firefox-privacy)

2020-01-14T20:15:35 #kisslinux (Also, by default config I mean Mozilla's)

2020-01-14T20:39:38 #kisslinux The Reddit crash could be related to: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538540

2020-01-14T21:30:20 #kisslinux heyo

2020-01-14T21:30:45 #kisslinux Hello

2020-01-14T21:30:54 #kisslinux how's it going

2020-01-14T21:31:34 #kisslinux Good

2020-01-14T21:31:38 #kisslinux :)

2020-01-14T21:31:39 #kisslinux I'm on cat watch again

2020-01-14T21:31:46 #kisslinux elaborate

2020-01-14T21:31:57 #kisslinux Uh

2020-01-14T21:32:09 #kisslinux Cat is dying and we're taking shifts to monitor his IV.

2020-01-14T21:32:18 #kisslinux :(

2020-01-14T21:32:28 #kisslinux He may pull through

2020-01-14T21:32:48 #kisslinux animal or human named cat

2020-01-14T21:33:15 #kisslinux Animal

2020-01-14T21:33:25 #kisslinux I did the IV myself if you're wondering

2020-01-14T21:34:38 #kisslinux i wasn't

2020-01-14T21:34:40 #kisslinux but whatever

2020-01-14T21:35:05 #kisslinux Well, technically not IV as it isn't going into a vein. It's going into the flesh under the skin of the neck which is then absorbed into the body. IV is just easier to type out.

2020-01-14T21:35:27 #kisslinux interesting

2020-01-14T21:35:33 #kisslinux Yup

2020-01-14T21:35:39 #kisslinux made a little wallpaper script

2020-01-14T21:35:42 #kisslinux Show me

2020-01-14T21:36:00 #kisslinux dir=pwd

2020-01-14T21:36:00 #kisslinux cd ~/bgs

2020-01-14T21:36:00 #kisslinux bg=ls -1 | shuf -n 1

2020-01-14T21:36:00 #kisslinux feh --bg-fill $bg

2020-01-14T21:36:08 #kisslinux cd $dir

2020-01-14T21:36:36 #kisslinux Ah, random image from dir

2020-01-14T21:36:40 #kisslinux yeah pretty much

2020-01-14T21:36:45 #kisslinux You can do: dir=$PWD

2020-01-14T21:36:54 #kisslinux i guess

2020-01-14T21:37:23 #kisslinux Also, the output from ls isn't guaranteed to be a 1:1 representation of the file's name.

2020-01-14T21:37:33 #kisslinux really?

2020-01-14T21:37:36 #kisslinux Yup

2020-01-14T21:37:50 #kisslinux ls is meant for us mortals and not for the machine to read

2020-01-14T21:39:44 #kisslinux do you suggest anything else i use?

2020-01-14T21:39:58 #kisslinux Yup

2020-01-14T21:40:00 #kisslinux 2 secs

2020-01-14T21:41:37 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/7f6b

2020-01-14T21:42:14 #kisslinux Could also do: printf '%sn' "$@" | shuf -n 1

2020-01-14T21:42:21 #kisslinux To replace 'shift'

2020-01-14T21:42:27 #kisslinux img=$(printf '%sn' "$@" | shuf -n 1)

2020-01-14T21:42:30 #kisslinux I mean

2020-01-14T21:42:54 #kisslinux nice, I instantly thought about shifting the positional parameters a random amount but wasn't sure how to get random

2020-01-14T21:43:23 #kisslinux Yeah

2020-01-14T21:43:28 #kisslinux there goes my hard work i guess lol

2020-01-14T21:43:48 #kisslinux I already had basically identical code in a script I use. :P

2020-01-14T21:44:15 #kisslinux I wonder if there's a better way still.

2020-01-14T21:44:18 #kisslinux One which is pure shell.

2020-01-14T21:44:31 #kisslinux well, not hard but i dont shell script

2020-01-14T21:44:37 #kisslinux I have an idea

2020-01-14T21:44:44 #kisslinux oh okey, explains the speed you came up with it

2020-01-14T21:45:09 #kisslinux This isn't security sensitive so the "randomness" can come from anywhere.

2020-01-14T21:45:33 #kisslinux true

2020-01-14T21:45:41 #kisslinux it's not even that random

2020-01-14T21:46:13 #kisslinux probably because i really only have 6 bgs

2020-01-14T21:47:52 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/qqxn

2020-01-14T21:47:55 #kisslinux Did it

2020-01-14T21:48:02 #kisslinux YMMV

2020-01-14T21:49:18 #kisslinux haha, thats brilliant

2020-01-14T21:49:47 #kisslinux $(($$ % $#)) is really dodgy cycling by alphabetic order

2020-01-14T21:52:13 #kisslinux if run without running anything else inbetween

2020-01-14T21:52:15 #kisslinux right?

2020-01-14T21:53:22 #kisslinux Yes

2020-01-14T21:53:45 #kisslinux Possibly lots of different factors too

2020-01-14T21:53:53 #kisslinux just need a kernel which actually doesnt simply increase pids :p

2020-01-14T21:54:13 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T21:54:27 #kisslinux Lets patch the kernel to ensure this works

2020-01-14T21:54:43 #kisslinux I really want to send this with the script to LKML

2020-01-14T21:54:52 #kisslinux Just to see the replies

2020-01-14T21:55:01 #kisslinux that would be hilarious

2020-01-14T21:55:26 #kisslinux Reminds me of this: https://xkcd.com/1172/

2020-01-14T21:55:58 #kisslinux "idk just patch the kernel to make your little shell script run"

2020-01-14T21:56:27 #kisslinux also - that is a really good xkcd

2020-01-14T21:57:33 #kisslinux hehe

2020-01-14T21:57:42 #kisslinux get on it

2020-01-14T22:03:37 #kisslinux btw dylanaraps, any work done on the line folding for birch?

2020-01-14T22:04:12 #kisslinux I've implemented it for a client I did a while ago

2020-01-14T22:04:33 #kisslinux kinda sucks with long urls. You can't really split them so they break your indentation

2020-01-14T22:07:23 #kisslinux Aarg: None at all, sorry

2020-01-14T22:07:27 #kisslinux I will get around to it

2020-01-14T22:09:03 #kisslinux i almost feel like making an irc client

2020-01-14T22:09:37 #kisslinux It's fun since you can get something which half works really quickly

2020-01-14T22:09:41 #kisslinux does /tmp get cleared on reboot?

2020-01-14T22:09:51 #kisslinux If you mount it as a tmpfs, yes.

2020-01-14T22:09:59 #kisslinux > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,nosuid,nodev 0 0

2020-01-14T22:10:02 #kisslinux (/etc/fstab)

2020-01-14T22:10:23 #kisslinux no rush, I was just curious about the details

2020-01-14T22:10:30 #kisslinux ohh thanks

2020-01-14T22:11:57 #kisslinux Aarg: I'm basically going to split the raw message based on column size of the window.

2020-01-14T22:12:12 #kisslinux The nick column is hardcoded to 10 chars wide which makes things easier.

2020-01-14T22:12:23 #kisslinux The fun part will be making it react to window resize.

2020-01-14T22:14:05 #kisslinux yeah, that I was curious about

2020-01-14T22:14:38 #kisslinux and the handling of strings which are longer then the remaining space

2020-01-14T22:15:08 #kisslinux is there a good resource that's not the official rfc

2020-01-14T22:15:15 #kisslinux as in, something i can read lol

2020-01-14T22:15:41 #kisslinux I'll be honest, I just read the raw messages to create the parsers.

2020-01-14T22:16:03 #kisslinux well i have to connect to a channel first

2020-01-14T22:16:16 #kisslinux it's past 6 AM, gotta go to work

2020-01-14T22:16:18 #kisslinux That is simple on join

2020-01-14T22:16:33 #kisslinux lieuxnoir: Ciao o/

2020-01-14T22:16:37 #kisslinux https://modern.ircdocs.horse/

2020-01-14T22:16:42 #kisslinux this is a great site

2020-01-14T22:16:49 #kisslinux sirtomato: JOIN #channel

2020-01-14T22:16:54 #kisslinux catch on you later

2020-01-14T22:17:01 #kisslinux laters

2020-01-14T22:17:35 #kisslinux but i have to register

2020-01-14T22:18:08 #kisslinux not if the nick is unregistered

2020-01-14T22:18:19 #kisslinux it just times out

2020-01-14T22:18:25 #kisslinux Just send: NICK nick_here

2020-01-14T22:18:53 #kisslinux i did that

2020-01-14T22:18:56 #kisslinux ahhh

2020-01-14T22:19:34 #kisslinux USER username * * :realname

2020-01-14T22:20:05 #kisslinux Oops

2020-01-14T22:20:08 #kisslinux That's right

2020-01-14T22:20:28 #kisslinux i did that and it still said "you have not registered"

2020-01-14T22:20:33 #kisslinux That's fine

2020-01-14T22:21:10 #kisslinux yeet

2020-01-14T22:21:17 #kisslinux ^test for the thigny

2020-01-14T22:21:19 #kisslinux it didn't work

2020-01-14T22:21:55 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/xe24

2020-01-14T22:22:52 #kisslinux NICK msg first

2020-01-14T22:22:57 #kisslinux then the USER msg

2020-01-14T22:23:18 #kisslinux oog

2020-01-14T22:23:19 #kisslinux ooh

2020-01-14T22:23:23 #kisslinux btw. I love the punt! message from busybox' netcat :D

2020-01-14T22:23:55 #kisslinux yes!

2020-01-14T22:24:05 #kisslinux Aarg: Yeah lol

2020-01-14T22:24:07 #kisslinux Nice

2020-01-14T22:24:14 #kisslinux yeet

2020-01-14T22:24:16 #kisslinux epic

2020-01-14T22:24:58 #kisslinux if you didn't have to ping or reply to pings, nc would be one kickass client

2020-01-14T22:25:17 #kisslinux yeah not wrong

2020-01-14T22:30:43 #kisslinux Aarg: wdym pings

2020-01-14T22:32:10 #kisslinux the server pings you and if you don't respond in time, you will be disconnected

2020-01-14T22:32:28 #kisslinux oh that's what i thought

2020-01-14T22:38:16 #kisslinux :D

2020-01-14T22:38:56 #kisslinux If anyone is getting Firefox crashes on the ESR: https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/issues/136

2020-01-14T22:44:28 #kisslinux why does xcompmgr take up 5% of my cpu

2020-01-14T22:44:49 #kisslinux nvm its not

2020-01-14T22:45:26 #kisslinux nvm it is. it's just on the X process because client-side shadows

2020-01-14T22:45:28 #kisslinux ahhhh

2020-01-14T22:45:33 #kisslinux they look nice tho

2020-01-14T22:46:45 #kisslinux I like: xcompmgr -a

2020-01-14T22:46:55 #kisslinux No fancy effects :P

2020-01-14T22:47:03 #kisslinux Runs perfectly

2020-01-14T22:47:05 #kisslinux but i like fancy effects

2020-01-14T22:47:12 #kisslinux why would you use it without fancy effects

2020-01-14T22:47:27 #kisslinux For compositing

2020-01-14T22:47:37 #kisslinux It's a compositor :P

2020-01-14T22:52:25 #kisslinux dylanaraps: on day 3 today resolved my kernel issues

2020-01-14T22:52:54 #kisslinux dylanaraps: i have a working setup now, the kiss way, tho it's not entirely minimal per se, it is still beautiful compared to initramfs madness

2020-01-14T22:53:43 #kisslinux basically just dropped entire directory of firmware into /lib/firmware and did a make defconfig on vanilla sources. then enabled my gpu and wifi as modules, then modprobe them via init

2020-01-14T22:55:08 #kisslinux yes i see

2020-01-14T22:55:40 #kisslinux my kernel is 8mb <3

2020-01-14T22:55:43 #kisslinux Nice

2020-01-14T22:55:52 #kisslinux That's not too bad at all

2020-01-14T22:56:08 #kisslinux Mine is 5MB and is minimal

2020-01-14T22:56:31 #kisslinux the modules make it small

2020-01-14T22:56:36 #kisslinux Ah

2020-01-14T22:56:41 #kisslinux my laptop uses no modules

2020-01-14T22:56:46 #kisslinux and is 10 mb kernel

2020-01-14T22:56:59 #kisslinux i just built everything in and called it quits (lazy)

2020-01-14T22:57:33 #kisslinux The baked in method is good as the kernel is standalone

2020-01-14T22:57:40 #kisslinux totally agree

2020-01-14T22:57:50 #kisslinux how do i get the kernel size

2020-01-14T22:57:52 #kisslinux i love a static kernel

2020-01-14T22:57:58 #kisslinux du -sm /boot/kernelname

2020-01-14T22:57:59 #kisslinux du -sh /boot/vmlinuz-*

2020-01-14T22:58:03 #kisslinux :P

2020-01-14T22:58:04 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T22:58:22 #kisslinux mine's 8.7mb

2020-01-14T22:58:23 #kisslinux The system can't break the kernel in any way which is nice.

2020-01-14T22:58:36 #kisslinux but i don't have sound

2020-01-14T22:58:38 #kisslinux howdy

2020-01-14T22:58:40 #kisslinux Hello

2020-01-14T22:58:41 #kisslinux howdy

2020-01-14T22:58:57 #kisslinux in fairness a modular kernel should not break if you make modules_install every time

2020-01-14T22:59:03 #kisslinux Yes

2020-01-14T22:59:08 #kisslinux But older kernels?

2020-01-14T22:59:16 #kisslinux Oh

2020-01-14T22:59:22 #kisslinux They install by version no?

2020-01-14T22:59:29 #kisslinux idk

2020-01-14T22:59:34 #kisslinux what's the alsa module name?

2020-01-14T22:59:35 #kisslinux lol :)

2020-01-14T22:59:43 #kisslinux CONFIG_SOUND=y

2020-01-14T23:00:02 #kisslinux hang on

2020-01-14T23:00:12 #kisslinux it's y

2020-01-14T23:00:19 #kisslinux dylanaraps: /etc/rc.d is very good for people who need to modprobe modules

2020-01-14T23:00:27 #kisslinux we did a nice thing.

2020-01-14T23:00:52 #kisslinux CONFIG_SND=y

2020-01-14T23:01:07 #kisslinux Yup

2020-01-14T23:01:11 #kisslinux The other method is this: https://getkiss.org/wiki/loading-a-module-at-boot

2020-01-14T23:01:21 #kisslinux Wiki could use an update now.

2020-01-14T23:01:36 #kisslinux ewww inittab

2020-01-14T23:01:37 #kisslinux ;)

2020-01-14T23:02:03 #kisslinux sirtomato: Device Driver -> Sound card support -> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture

2020-01-14T23:02:19 #kisslinux s/Driver/Drivers/

2020-01-14T23:02:31 #kisslinux Also there is '/' ala vi for searching..... it actually works good once you get the hang of it.

2020-01-14T23:02:37 #kisslinux In this menu are your drivers etc.

2020-01-14T23:02:46 #kisslinux ok

2020-01-14T23:02:51 #kisslinux CONFIG_SND_PCM_TIMER=y is good

2020-01-14T23:03:05 #kisslinux CONFIG_SND_PROC_FS=y is good

2020-01-14T23:03:28 #kisslinux time to make some nachos brb

2020-01-14T23:03:40 #kisslinux adamantium, try make nconfig

2020-01-14T23:03:43 #kisslinux much better

2020-01-14T23:03:43 #kisslinux CONFIG_SND_SUPPORT_OLD_API=y might be good for compat with older programs

2020-01-14T23:03:55 #kisslinux Aarg what is it

2020-01-14T23:04:02 #kisslinux ah okey

2020-01-14T23:04:18 #kisslinux wasnt sure if menuconfig also had /

2020-01-14T23:04:23 #kisslinux yeah it's on

2020-01-14T23:04:25 #kisslinux sirtomato: Then there's submenus related to drivers for your hardware.

2020-01-14T23:04:36 #kisslinux PCI, USB, Generic, etc

2020-01-14T23:04:42 #kisslinux What hardware do you have?

2020-01-14T23:04:52 #kisslinux im just using the mobo audio

2020-01-14T23:05:15 #kisslinux What mobo do you have?

2020-01-14T23:05:16 #kisslinux :P

2020-01-14T23:05:35 #kisslinux gimme a sec

2020-01-14T23:06:11 #kisslinux totally misread, adamantium

2020-01-14T23:06:20 #kisslinux its just a different ncurses menu

2020-01-14T23:06:36 #kisslinux try it out

2020-01-14T23:06:44 #kisslinux it also uses arrow keys to go back/forward

2020-01-14T23:06:50 #kisslinux jesus the website just says 'japanese capacitors'

2020-01-14T23:06:53 #kisslinux i DONT CARE

2020-01-14T23:06:55 #kisslinux instead of the horrible navigation of menuconfig

2020-01-14T23:07:05 #kisslinux oh

2020-01-14T23:07:09 #kisslinux im just used to menuconfig

2020-01-14T23:07:13 #kisslinux i;ll look at it sometime

2020-01-14T23:07:57 #kisslinux dylanaraps: > Realtek® ALC892

2020-01-14T23:08:24 #kisslinux question

2020-01-14T23:08:42 #kisslinux for my wifi and graphics to work i had to modprobe amdgpu and modprobe ath9k ...

2020-01-14T23:08:57 #kisslinux does this mean that ALL modules must be modprobed

2020-01-14T23:09:03 #kisslinux and nothing gets auto loaded?

2020-01-14T23:09:05 #kisslinux SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=y

2020-01-14T23:09:19 #kisslinux SND_PCI=y

2020-01-14T23:09:24 #kisslinux d'oh

2020-01-14T23:09:40 #kisslinux SND_SEQ_HRTIMER_DEFAULT=y

2020-01-14T23:09:48 #kisslinux (Add CONFIG_ to the start of these)

2020-01-14T23:10:28 #kisslinux those are all one

2020-01-14T23:10:45 #kisslinux adamantium: Typically an initramfs handles module loading. It's something we can hand off to eudev though it'd make it harder for us to swap away from eudev.

2020-01-14T23:11:24 #kisslinux We can auto load modules at boot, the hard part is "which ones?".

2020-01-14T23:11:40 #kisslinux Can it be done in a "portable" way using /dev?

2020-01-14T23:12:12 #kisslinux sirtomato: Search the web for "Realtek® ALC892 gentoo" or "Realtek® ALC892 kernel"

2020-01-14T23:13:21 #kisslinux dylanaraps: what im getting at is this: maybe i can just unset all of these modules in my kconfig, since im only requiring two of them........

2020-01-14T23:13:26 #kisslinux ok

2020-01-14T23:13:43 #kisslinux adamantium: Maybe

2020-01-14T23:13:48 #kisslinux Modules can depend on modules

2020-01-14T23:14:15 #kisslinux building them in might be safer

2020-01-14T23:14:15 #kisslinux You should be safe to load everything in lsmod's output.

2020-01-14T23:14:45 #kisslinux Also, think of our module situation as a whitelist instead of the typical blacklist

2020-01-14T23:15:17 #kisslinux You don't have to go and blacklist anything and you know 100% what modules are loaded as you set it up.

2020-01-14T23:28:38 #kisslinux wikidata being our official mirror topkek

2020-01-14T23:30:10 #kisslinux wtf what's with these music players with this wacky dependencies

2020-01-14T23:30:17 #kisslinux time to write one

2020-01-14T23:31:07 #kisslinux I just use mpv

2020-01-14T23:31:30 #kisslinux oh great

2020-01-14T23:33:55 #kisslinux ++mpv

2020-01-14T23:35:02 #kisslinux oh great

2020-01-14T23:35:18 #kisslinux oh great

2020-01-14T23:40:13 #kisslinux since so many of us are using laptops

2020-01-14T23:40:24 #kisslinux do we have plans to get powertop or tlp packaged some how

2020-01-14T23:45:08 #kisslinux busybox has a powertop implementation

2020-01-14T23:45:13 #kisslinux It's kinda shitty though

2020-01-14T23:45:44 #kisslinux dylanaraps: could I get a list of the issues you have with wayland? (not asking cuz I like wayland, just curious about what issues there are that I'm not aware of yet)

2020-01-14T23:45:50 #kisslinux I actually thought about writing my own super simple alternative

2020-01-14T23:45:54 #kisslinux Sure

2020-01-14T23:46:46 #kisslinux - "Wayland Compositor" is misleading and a better name for it would be "Wayland Display Server".

2020-01-14T23:46:51 #kisslinux i wrote a shell script before that polls the battery every X seconds and then does commands based on battery level threshholds

2020-01-14T23:47:19 #kisslinux - Window managers can't exist on Wayland. Not possible. Your "Window manager" would have to be a full display server.

2020-01-14T23:47:21 #kisslinux but i feel like there must be a better way to do things

2020-01-14T23:47:57 #kisslinux - No standard protocols for most things. Every large Wayland "compositor" project has their own protocol extensions.

2020-01-14T23:48:35 #kisslinux - This means that each Wayland based environment is a silo of utilities and features.

2020-01-14T23:48:57 #kisslinux i'd be curious mforney 's thoughts on this, since he wrote a wayland wm

2020-01-14T23:49:13 #kisslinux - Program X works on GNOME but won't in Sway and vice versa.

2020-01-14T23:49:31 #kisslinux - Compositing is forced. I don't like compositors personally.

2020-01-14T23:49:54 #kisslinux lack of networking features sucks

2020-01-14T23:49:55 #kisslinux didn't you just mention using a compositor super recently lol?

2020-01-14T23:50:08 #kisslinux I used to

2020-01-14T23:50:12 #kisslinux (not to say the point isn't valid, it totally is)

2020-01-14T23:50:19 #kisslinux I don't like them for the latency they add

2020-01-14T23:50:27 #kisslinux do you get tearing without it?

2020-01-14T23:50:30 #kisslinux Nope

2020-01-14T23:50:34 #kisslinux nice

2020-01-14T23:50:36 #kisslinux - Fuck NVIDIA

2020-01-14T23:51:16 #kisslinux that one being more of a "this is a problem you'll encounter if you want to use wayland and have nvidia" and not so much a "this is a flaw with wayland" right?

2020-01-14T23:51:24 #kisslinux a little screen tearing doesn't bother me tbh

2020-01-14T23:51:32 #kisslinux i'd rather not have the latency, as said.

2020-01-14T23:51:43 #kisslinux input delay is annoying AF

2020-01-14T23:52:15 #kisslinux E5ten: Well, the issue is that NVIDIA use EGLStreams and AMD/Intel use GBM

2020-01-14T23:52:25 #kisslinux without a compositor I get tearing on modesetting but not with xf86-video-intel

2020-01-14T23:52:41 #kisslinux yeah I know

2020-01-14T23:52:59 #kisslinux I just mean that the issue with nvidia is a problem with using wayland and not an actual problem with wayland like the other things

2020-01-14T23:53:03 #kisslinux I don't see why the core people working on Wayland can't write a library to abstract both APIs into a common one.

2020-01-14T23:53:04 #kisslinux kernel config looks right. still no sound -

2020-01-14T23:53:07 #kisslinux ahh

2020-01-14T23:53:08 #kisslinux xf86-video-intal has the tearfree option, which as far as i know still has not been ported to modesetting

2020-01-14T23:53:20 #kisslinux TearFree isn't needed

2020-01-14T23:53:22 #kisslinux It's just a second API.

2020-01-14T23:53:37 #kisslinux xf86-video-intel is tear free without TearFree

2020-01-14T23:53:47 #kisslinux You can't be aiming to replace Xorg and then not support common hardware.

2020-01-14T23:53:48 #kisslinux all the better

2020-01-14T23:53:58 #kisslinux it does depend your generation of intel graphics, though

2020-01-14T23:54:03 #kisslinux The issue is that,

2020-01-14T23:54:09 #kisslinux experiences are going to vary a lot from laptop to laptop

2020-01-14T23:54:12 #kisslinux wtf even is modesetting

2020-01-14T23:54:21 #kisslinux I didn't have tearing on sandy bridge and I don't now either on uhhh coffee lake I think?

2020-01-14T23:54:29 #kisslinux ooh its 2 words

2020-01-14T23:54:30 #kisslinux i see

2020-01-14T23:54:37 #kisslinux but amd > intel

2020-01-14T23:54:49 #kisslinux Wayland pushes majority of the work downstream which raises the bar of entry for an individual to write a "window manager" (or whatever).

2020-01-14T23:54:53 #kisslinux from what I could tell from the reading I did on the eglstreams and gbm thing I think wayland and mesa and whatnot started using gbm before nvidia even did anything?

2020-01-14T23:55:16 #kisslinux like wayland was like "we're gonna use gbm" and mesa's like "ok gbm is a thing we have cool" I think

2020-01-14T23:55:28 #kisslinux https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgxMDE

2020-01-14T23:55:33 #kisslinux and then nvidia was just like "hey guys I know y'all decided on gbm buttttt I think we're gonna do something else"

2020-01-14T23:55:34 #kisslinux 2014

2020-01-14T23:55:44 #kisslinux Quite long ago

2020-01-14T23:56:20 #kisslinux yeah but what matters is how long ago it was relative to when the decision to use gbm was made, no?

2020-01-14T23:56:30 #kisslinux what do you know about openbsd's xorg. it's a little different no?

2020-01-14T23:56:32 #kisslinux nobody:

2020-01-14T23:56:38 #kisslinux nvidia: fuck making a graphics card

2020-01-14T23:56:51 #kisslinux we're gonna make a lump of metal with cuda cores

2020-01-14T23:56:58 #kisslinux xenocara isn't a fork

2020-01-14T23:57:16 #kisslinux It's just OpenBSD's build system on top of regular Xorg with some minor OpenBSD fixes.

2020-01-14T23:57:28 #kisslinux They mostly just pull in upstream.

2020-01-14T23:57:37 #kisslinux (all in a horrifying monorepo)

2020-01-14T23:57:41 #kisslinux Yup

2020-01-14T23:57:43 #kisslinux lol

2020-01-14T23:57:51 #kisslinux E5ten: https://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=0x2014&image=nvidia_wayland_6_med

2020-01-14T23:57:57 #kisslinux Thiis is their reasoning apparently.

2020-01-14T23:58:26 #kisslinux so

2020-01-14T23:58:57 #kisslinux "we can do the thing everyone else is already doing but we don't really like it so we're gonna do a totally different thing that's entirely incompatible and will require a lot of work to make work with existing wayland compositors"

2020-01-14T23:59:02 #kisslinux Yeah

2020-01-14T23:59:06 #kisslinux Basically

2020-01-14T23:59:24 #kisslinux If you want to replace Xorg I believe this is just something you have to put up with.

2020-01-14T23:59:33 #kisslinux Otherwise, don't call it a replacement.

2020-01-14T23:59:45 #kisslinux fair enough

2020-01-14T23:59:50 #kisslinux Chances are the issue boils down to GBM being incompatible with how their GPUs work underneath.